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Topic started by ts on Tue Nov 2 10:00:03 2004. [Full View]

Hello Guys,

I intend to do the updates here. Please correct if any of my posts are wrong/out of context or not in sync.

TIA
TS

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From: ts on Tue Nov 2 10:03:20 2004. [Full View]

Someswaran (Somu) is a young journalist, working for the weekly "Neithal". His friend Padmarajan (Shakti in Annamalai) works as a photographer. Kumaraguru is their editor.

Somu once sees a beggar at the street who is talking about road kill and accident statistics. The beggar says that every 42 day, someone loses a limb in the Teynampet signal in a road accident. He also says that an accident involving a lorry is due and Somu might witness it...

That day, Somu and Padma witness an accident where a person gets crushed to death by a water tanker....
From: ts on Tue Nov 2 10:07:45 2004. [Full View]

Somu gets very angry at the water tanker drivers and writes an article on it for his magazine. The editor critisizes his approach and says that he lacks the human touch. He sends Somu to investigate further on the dead man's case and ask him to find out about his family.

Somu sets off on this and finds that the dead man was about to marry and his fiancee had commited suicide after hearing the news. He finds that her father is a tamil pundit and has lots of olaichuvadis in his house.

Somu comes back to his editor with this news and wants his anger to be shown on paper. "God" (thats what they call the editor) pacifies him and says that the matter is dead now and that he needs to bring out some live
news, for if the lorry drivers are going to strike, it will put a lot of harship on the locals who depend on them for water.

He asks somu to get an interview of the tamil vAdhyAr... and says that he might possess something interesting in his collection.
From: ts on Tue Nov 2 10:11:27 2004. [Full View]

Introducing More characters....

Akash is a computer specialist working for an american security firm. He specialises in digital imaging and biometrics. He is in chennai to sort out some problems with his company's software and to get more potential clients.

Arthi, Somu's friend, works for the met office in chennai. Y G Mahendran is her dad and he is a gynaecologist. Her sister is a student of Bharatanatyam and her guru is the ever annoying vaidhi...

Thulasi is the editor's daughter. She is a Phd in chemistry from a german university and is in a state of mental inbalance now. She is a schizophrenic...
From: ts on Tue Nov 2 12:16:57 2004. [Full View]

Someone has made a mess at the met office where the rain meter readings are out of place. Seems some visitors gained access to the restricted areas. The chief Manoharan is annoyed and asks his deputy to arrange for security for the building. They call in Akash's firm to do the business. Akash and his friend install the new state of the art security system that uses finger prints to check and provide access.

Somu is depressed as the editor rejects his article. Arthi consoles him and tells him that he will make it to the top one day.

Back at Neithal, The editor asks somu to forget about the tanker death and to go in-depth to get more details on the family . The editor suggest somu visit the tamil pundit as the pundit had some olaichuvadis, something interesting may lie there.
From: ts on Tue Nov 2 12:22:36 2004. [Full View]

Somu goes to visit the pandit in his village and finds that the main door of the house is locked. A local tells him that the pundit might be in the backyard and asks him to scale the fence and go to the backyard. Somu does the same and finds that there is none there but the back door is wedge open. Somu enters the house, searching for the pundit and finds him dead... blood everywhere and all olaichuvadis scattered around. He calls the police who arrive at the scene. They suspect Somu. The editor comes from Chennai, clears somu's name and takes Somu with him. Somu argues that the murder is related to olaichuvadis and he wants to invetigate. The editor doesnt want him to get involved in the case.

The editor asks somu to start on a new topic, this time on Nadi josiyam. He says that as a journalist, they should have a different point of view to any topic. He asks somu to get the pandit's thumb impression and take it to a Nadi josiyar.

Later somu visits the mortuary, bribes the attendant and takes a look at the body of the pandit. He takes a thumb impression of the pundit and leaves. The other thumb of the pundit is also doused with ink....
From: Surya on Tue Nov 2 22:49:47 2004. [Full View]

The latest is....
Somu goes to the guest house with the editor, because Somu recieves death threats. Y G Mahendran's Joshiyar says that his daughter has a chance of getting kidnapped, and just like that, she gets kidnapped by a guy with a scar behind his left ear. That is the same guy who also is suspected of killing the Joshiyar. 8)
From: nirosha sen on Wed Nov 3 3:05:29 2004. [Full View]

Boy TS and Surya, my hair is already standing on ends here!! This is a very good start Pa!! Hope our Astro catches up and brings this serial to Malaysia soon. Something to wean off Annamalai's sometimes ludicrous and long-winded story-telling!!

I shall enquire at our local CD outlet if they have this serial! Meanwhile, keep up the good work. I shall certainly love to partcipate!
From: ts on Wed Nov 3 5:47:19 2004. [Full View]

Surya/Niroha,

I shall post episode by episode. More coming today...
From: ts on Wed Nov 3 6:17:38 2004. [Full View]

Somu shows this thumb impression to a nadi josiyar who compares it with the olaichuvadis that he has. He selects one and starts reading but stops in between saying that according to the script, this man is already dead and they dont read palm scripts for those dead. He asks somu to leave at once. Somu refuses but the josiyar goes inside his house. Somu follows him and there he sees people preparing various olaichuvadis and he calls it a scam.

He gets a phone call from work and is asked to go to a local ministers house. The minister's son was involved in a car accident and someone is hurt. Somu goes there but is not let into the house. He tries to go thru the back door where he sees the beggar he met earlier. The beggar says that it is the 42nd day and as predicted someone lost their limb.... also says.. "kanakku dhaan....ellaame kodu dhaan". Somu hatches a plan and asks the beggar to give him his finger print.

Somu takes the finger print to a nadi joshiyar who says that this man is a genius in mathematics but is dead now....Somu laughs on hearing this and says that he saw this man just a few minutes back. He calls the Nadi josiyar as a fraudster and leaces. He sees a small crowd in the corner of the street where he finds the beggar dead.... covered with lots of paper , all with complex mathematical workings..

When he comes back to work, the sub-editor asks him of the article on NAdi josiyam and tells him that he even has a title for somu's article... and the title being "ellaame kodu dhaan"...
From: ts on Wed Nov 3 6:20:59 2004. [Full View]

Somu fixes an appointment with another nAdi joshiyar and goes to him. This man is keezhambur ponnambalam. Somu and Arthi go to his house. The joshiyar's wife opens the door and asks them to wait. She goes inside to call the josiyar and screams...... Somu and arthi rush inside.... The josiyar is in the oonjal his arms spread and mouth wide open.....dead.... Arthi spots the right thumb of the josiyar which is doused with ink....

They quickly take the impression again without anybody noticing them.

Somu and Arthi take this impression to another nadi josiyar, Anbarasu. He sees the impression and takes out another one from his cupboard. They both are identical.

Somu tells him that he will come back the next day.
When they arrive at the next day, Anbarasu tells them that the palm script is gone. He tells them that someone had come and taken away the olaichuvadis of ponnambalam.

They ask for his description to which Anbarasu says that he was wearing a blue pant and red shirt. He had a white scar behind his ear.

Post-mortem report says that death is by a chemical oxytoxin (or something)... which Thulasi discovered as part of her doctorate...

Editor asks Somu to drop the article on Nadi josiyam as it had so far lead him to many deaths and asks him to do something else.
From: ts on Wed Nov 3 6:26:09 2004. [Full View]

At work, Arthi's boss Manohar is not happy with Arthi being off work without informing him. He starts shouting at her when she notices a white scar behind his ear. She informs Somu of it.

Akash takes a few days off and leaves for Chidambaram to meet his Grand mother, who he has not seen for many years. He arrives at the old family house where she lives alone. She tells him that he looks very similar to his Great Grand father and they talk of him. She tells him that the GGF was an expert in Nadi josiyam and in his last days, he used to have the olai chuvadi kattu with him and do lots of calculations. Akash is astronished to hear that. He sees a nadi josiyar next doors and visits them. The nadi josiyar takes his finger print and brings a matching olaichuvadi out of his repository. He starts reading it and interprets it. it says that Akash, who had been living in US for 20 years, and barely speaks tamil, will become an expert in Tamil. It asks him to do pooja to a siva lingam. It says that when he does that, on his way back home he has to feed a tiger with a banana and all will be good from then. Akash thinks this is silly.. he questions his grandma on the authenticity of such stories and tells her that no tiger in this world will eat a banana.

They do the pooja in a local temple and when they come out of the temple, they see some festivities. Someone is performing some offering and then he sees a man dressed as a tiger (puliyattam). This "tiger" comes to Akash and asks for a banana from his pooja basket. He is dumbfolded...
From: ts on Wed Nov 3 6:32:45 2004. [Full View]

Back at home, Akash starts to believe in these things. He asks his grandma about Nadi josiyam when she says that there is a pack of olaichuvadis in the attic that his GGF used to have. They take it out and immediately Akash sees his name printed on the first page.

There are a few 1s and 0s printed there and he tries to decode them. He finds out that the numbers are binary code that transforms into "Thillai". He is thrilled by his discovery. His Grandma tells him that this was written many years before anyone thought of computers or binary.

HE takes the olaichuvadis to the Josiyar next doors who looks at it and asks him if they knew one by name "Someswaran". This person could be your sibling... and this olaichuvadi is that of somu he says.

At somu's house, his father, an advocate is with his friend, a big businessman. While they are chatting, the business man hear somu's mother sing. Somu's dad tells him that she is a musician and does ad jingles. Just then, a christian priest enters the house and somu's mother welcomes him and takes him in. Somu's dad tells his friend that he follows Saibaba and his wife, eventhough hindu, has faith in Christianity and that each respect other's privacy and beliefs. Somu comes home and his dad introduces his friend. His friend then leaves the house and just then the phone rings. Somu picks the phone and a voice tells him to stay away of the murders and mind his business.
From: ts on Wed Nov 3 6:37:30 2004. [Full View]

The arangetram of arthi's sister is imminent and her guru wants to capitalize on the occasion. He nags Arthi and asks her to introduce him to Somu so that Somu can write an article on him. Arthi gives Somu's contact details to him.

The teacher arrives at Neithal and pesters Somu for an article. When the editor calls somu, he goes in as well and annoys everyone there. Somu agrees to come to his house for an interview at 4 pm.

Somu sees his dad's friend in his editor's room. He is sponsoring the magazine for some event and the editor wants somu to interview him and write a nice article about him.
Thulasi interrupts and speaks something unrelated and the editor scold her. She sneaks out of the room and goes to the street and lies down in the middle of the road. Everyone is embarassed.

Later that day, the bharatanatyam teacher is assaulted by someone and gets injected with some substance. The killer takes his thumb impression and the teacher falls from his apartment down into the loby and dies. Just then Somu and padma arrive for the interview. Somu notices a christian priest rushing out of the apartment complex.
From: ts on Wed Nov 3 7:04:11 2004. [Full View]

YGMahendran brings a popular astrologer home. He shows him all their horoscopes and asks for predictions. The josiyar sees Arthi's horoscope and goes into deep thought. He tells YGM that he will analyse and let them know in a few days. YGM takes the josiyar in his car to drop him when the josiyar asks him to go to a secluded place. They go to the beach where the josiyar tells him that Arthi will get lost and chances of her coming back is very remote. Even if she comes back, the chances of YGM seeing her again is impossible.

YGM is shocked and shattered. He doesnt tell about this to anybody. He tries various other methoods of predictions and all lead to he same road. He starts restricting Arthi's activities and she is annoyed.
From: ts on Wed Nov 3 7:05:23 2004. [Full View]

Akash spends a lot of time trying to read the olaichuvadis. His grandma is not happy with this as his GGF spent a lot of time in his last days doing the same thing and he doesnt want Akash to follow suit. She says that the GGF became mad because of it and doesnt want Akash to have the same fate. She takes the olaichuvadis and locks it in a box.

Arthi is at work where she sees Anbarasu. He has come to meet Manoharan. Arthi eavesdrops them and tries to find if Manoharan is behind the deaths. Manoharan shouts at Anbarasu and asks him to leave thru the back door. Arthi catches him at the gate and asks him if as to why he came there. He gives her some lame excuse and leaves.

The editor at Neithal tells somu that he needs to get away for a few days and keep off any trouble. He is getting ready to go to his farm house where he can leave Thulasi. He asks somu to accompany them and all of them leave for the farm house in the east coast road.
From: ts on Wed Nov 3 7:07:34 2004. [Full View]

While they are travelling, Arthi calls Somu and tells him about Anbarasu-Manohar connection. She tells him that she will investigate further. When the editor asks about the call, Somu tells him something else.

Arthi goes to Anbarasu's place and asks him of the connection. Anbarasu tells her that Manoharan lends money and he had come to Manoharan to return the money that he had borrowed. Tells her that he has many goondas with him and is a dangerous man.

Arthi finds that her purse is missing and Anbarasu's daughter has taken it. He returns it back and apologises and tells her that last week the girl had taken a diary that belongs to the person with the scar. he gives her the diary. This is a small phone book and the girl had scribbled all over it. Arthi takes this and sees an incomplete number. She goes back home and tries to find out the number on the directory and finally gets on to something.
From: ts on Wed Nov 3 7:35:53 2004. [Full View]

She immediately calls Somu but cannot get thru to his cell phone. She tries many times but in vain.

At the farm house Somu and Editor enjoy the hospitality and somu is very confused about the whole thing. They spend a few days there.

Arthi tries to call Somu again but cannot get through. She calls Padma and asks him if Somu had called. She asks Padma to tell Somu "it is not Manoharan" and that she has a big lead, if he calls. Padma is confused but he tells her that he will pass on the message.

Arthi comes back home and YGM gets mad at her for being late. He asks her to quit work and stay at home. Later, he confesses to his wife about the details that the josiyar had given him. He tells his wife that he will try to win over fate with his intelligence (vidhiyai madhiyAla vellanam).
From: ts on Wed Nov 3 7:37:07 2004. [Full View]

YGM tells Arthi that he is going to marry her to Somu. She tells him that they are just friends but he is adamant and tell sher that he will speak to Somu's parents on this.

At the farm, Editor tells somu that he had a phone call from His parents and that they have fixed his marriage with Arthi. He is confused and asks if he can go back to the city. The editor asks him to wait until morning when they can leave.

In Chidambaram, Akash's relative, who works in the temple comes to their house with his daughter. It seems that he has a call from Sankaracharya to accompany him to go to Kasi and asks Akash's Grandma if she can take care of his daughter until his come back. This girl Abirami, stays with them. Grandma asks Abhirami to put the box that has the olaichuvadis back in the attic and she does so. She then sneaks into Akash's room and gives him the olaichuvadis that she had taken from the box without Grandma's notice. She tells him that she does this as he wanted it so badly.

He asks her to read from the scripts to which she tells him that she cannot read this old form of tamil. Akash asks her if she can teach him tamil and she accepts and starts rightaway.
From: ts on Wed Nov 3 7:44:53 2004. [Full View]

Arthi talks to Padma and asks for directions to the farm house. He gives her the details. She tells him that she will go there in a cab. Arthi wants to go out but YGM doesnt let her. He asks her to stay at home until the wedding.

She sneaks out of her room and scales down thru the rear entrance and leaves the house. She boards a call taxi at the end of the road and asks the driver to go to the farm house. The cab leaves the road and just then she sees another such call taxi going in the opposite direction.

The cab goes to the main road and at one point she sees ASomu and the editor in the opposite side of the road. She asks the cab driver to stop but he doesnt listen. She tries to open the door but it is locked... thats when she notices that the driver has a white scar behind his neck....she screams for help.....
From: ts on Wed Nov 3 8:10:00 2004. [Full View]

Somu's parents are in Arthi's house. Arthis mum is crying and Somu's mum consoles her. Somu tells them that Arthi will be back and for them not to lose hope. YGM tells them that Arthi will not come again and that he will not see her ever again....

Akash can read and write tamil now. Thanks to Abhirami. He tries to read from the olaichuvadis and Abhirami laughs at him. She tells him that that form of tamil is very old and very difficult to read. He tells her that his Nadi josiyam predictions tell that he will be a scholar in Tamil. He reads from the text that the josiyar translated for him. It goes like..."kaimpenn oruvarAl tamil karpAn". He asks her the meaning for Kaimpenn to which replies that the meaning is "widow". He tells her that there would be some one else then who will teach him better tamil than Abhirami. Abhiramis facial expression changes. SHe starts to cry and tells him that all this is a scam and goes inside...
From: Cindy on Wed Nov 3 8:12:47 2004. [Full View]

Oh TS... this is reallllly breathtaking..when is this telecasted and in which channel?
From: ts on Wed Nov 3 8:22:27 2004. [Full View]

Somu is with the editor. The editor speaks to the police commissioner and asks for help. He asks somu if Arthi has a boy friend and if she is not happy to marry Somu. Somu tells him that she does not have any like that. Editor asks him if Arthi spoke to him lately. SOmu tells him that she was okay when she spoke to him about Anbarasu....editor pick on him and asks him if it is the Nadi josiyam case. He gets very angry at Somu and asks him why he had to indulge her into this matter. He tells somu that he has 20 reporters working for neithal and none would dare sit equal to the editor but somu was allowed to. This is because the editor sees himself in Somu and wants him as the successor. Somu being so irresponsible is the cause of all the confusion today. He tells somu that he cannot sack him and asks him to leave the job by himself.

Padma tells Somu that Arthi told him just a few words.. ."Not manoharan" and she has a lead...

Somu is back at home when Arthis mum calls to see if theres any news. Somu tells her that they are working on the case. She tells him that Arthi was talking about some nadi josiyar and if Somu knows of him. Somu then goes to Anbarasu and questions him. Anbarasu tells him of his connection with Manohar and that arthi found it out. He tells Somu that Manohar had very bad connections and he would have done some harm to Arthi. SOmu goes to Arthi's office and tries to meet Manohar. The people there do not let him in. He tells them that He is Arthis friend and wants to meet the boss. The attendant tries Manohar's number when Somu forces his way into the office. He sees Manohar lying in the table and shouts at him. No respoonse from Manoharan. He goes nearby and sees a syringe sticking out of Manoharan's neck...he is dead.....
From: ts on Wed Nov 3 8:25:26 2004. [Full View]

...this is as far as we got.. shall do the updates as the serial progresses...watch out !
From: ts on Wed Nov 3 9:16:30 2004. [Full View]

Cindy:

Sorry i didnt spot your post (busy typing ! ! !) Have sent you a pm.
From: Cindy on Wed Nov 3 11:30:43 2004. [Full View]

What was predicted to YG was that his daughter would be kidnapped and that "He will never see the girl again??"...Now I worry what will happen to the poor gynecologist. ..something bad gonna happen with him only... as we are sure the girl would come back ....

From: ts on Wed Nov 3 11:35:08 2004.

Cindy wrote:

What was predicted to YG was that his daughter would be kidnapped and that "He will never see the girl again??"...No I worry what will happen to the poor gynecologist. Sad

Sad

Sad

Sad

..something bad gonna happen with him only... as we are sure the girl would come back ....

Yeah. Thats what was said specifically..to the point.. probably to kill him off the serial.

From: Cindy on Wed Nov 3 11:37:41 2004. [Full View]

TS,

Just saw the show now..time here is 9:10 pm.

I think what we fear is gonna really come true...
From: ts on Wed Nov 3 11:41:10 2004. [Full View]

Hi Cindy,

Just read your message. Yes.. naga, in an interview said that there will be more than 25 deaths in this serial......Just wondering about the mode of death though.. will be die of putra soham or be killed by the killer??? will have to wait !
From: ts on Thu Nov 4 5:22:15 2004. [Full View]

Police arrive at the crime scene. The AC introduces himself to Somu and asks for details. He tells Somu that he can leave now. Just then a little girl comes there and tells the AC that it was Somu who pushed...
The AC gets suspicious and asks her for details and she tells him that it was Somu who who came running and pushed her . Somu starts to leave and the AC has a hint of suspicion on Somu.

The Editor is on the phone with the police. He tells them that Somu is a reporter and went to the Met office to get the forecast readings and there was a tussle there and those people didnt let him in and hence the confusion. They accept this.

The editor gets angry at somu and scolds him. He tells somu that to investigate in such cases, Somu has to either think like the police or like the criminal. Since he is not a policemen, editor asks him to think like a criminal. He asks Somu to trace the call taxi that Arthi used by tracking her cell phone call records from the cell company.

Somu goes to the cell company and gets the details. He tries to talk to them but then someone trying to park his car hits somu's motorbike and makes a damage. Somu gets mad at him and this guy gives him his card and tells him that he will pay compensation. Somu says that he doesnt need any money but want it fixed. They exchange details and the other guy is Ismayil, Akash's colleague at work.

Back at home, Somu's mother sees somu depressed and asks him to come and pray. Inside her room, he sees the christian priest. She asks him to pray for Arthis safe return and they all do. Somu suspects something fishy. When the priest is about to leave, he asks the priest if he knew the dance teacher and why he was leaving hastily that day. The priest tells him that he had come to th eapartment to meet someone else and was in a hurry and hence had to leave. Somu doesnt seem convinced. Just the phone rings and it is Arthi;''s mother. She asks somu to come asap.

It seems YGM is not to be seen for 2 days. His wife is worried and cannot trace him. Somu consoles her and just then YGM arrives. He tells them that he had been to Trichy to meet a popular astrologer who told him that Sarthi will return safely. He seem to be happy about it and has a good lunch. Somu and Arthis mum are in the dinner table as well but they cant eat. Arthi's mum is worried about Arthi's state....

IN a dark room that looks like a garbage dump, arthi is being tied to a chair, there is some one bringing her food.....
...thodarum...
From: Alisha on Fri Nov 5 1:29:13 2004. [Full View]

This is a very interesting story.
From: Surya on Fri Nov 5 1:51:26 2004. [Full View]

Oh yeah, But Just like what u said about annamalai alisha, It would be 100 times better if you started watching it form the begg. Unfortunately I missed it. I only started watching it after a friend of mine told me that it had a lot of Hindu Beliefs it the show. Its probably one of the best suspence ones that i've seen. 8)
From: ts on Thu Nov 11 5:58:16 2004. [Full View]

Arthi is tied to a chair and this guy brings her some food. Arthi refuses to take food and throws the plate away. This guy has a look and leaves....

Somu comes to work where the editor asks him to come outside with him. He tells somu that the Asst commissioner had found some clues on arthi. They arrive at the AC's office. The AC shows them arthi's purse and tells them that they found this in an abandoned car, that had the call taxi's sticker. The car, it seems, was stolen a few weeks back and the person who did this had a clear idea of the call taxi that arthi usually uses. he suspects that whoever did this was close to the family. They take leave. The AC tells Somu that he has to talk to him about many things and will call later.

Back at work, Chaya, a new girl introduces herself to Somu. She joined them as a trainee.
Padma comes to Somu and asks for details. Somu briefs him about the AC and other things. He sees Ismails card with somu and asks him f he knows him. Somu tells him of the accident. Padma asks somu if he can accompany somu to Ismail's office as they are bringing out a few brochures and padma wants the photography contract. Just then the sub editor arrives and tells Padma to do his job at Neithal properly before taking outside contracts... he snatches the card , has a look at it and tells somu that the even if he wants to get out of the finger print artile (nadi josiyam) it will not leave him...somu notices the logo on Ismail's card and it is a finger print...sub editir leaves by chanting... kodu dhaan...ellaame kodu dhaan...

Back in the farm, Thulasi wanders in the front yard. The car driver is cleaning the car. The house maid calls him to have his breakfast anbd he goes inside. Thulasi gets in the car and starts it...and drives it out of the farm....the driver and gardener run behind but no one can stop her.....thodarum...
From: Reena on Sun Nov 14 23:02:48 2004. [Full View]

Sounds Creepy.
From: ts on Thu Nov 18 6:11:32 2004. [Full View]

The maid at the farm house calls the editor and tells him of the incident. He gets wild and panics. Editor and Somu rush to the farmhouse. At the farmhouse the editor is very angry and gets very restless. He asks all of them to look for thulasi. He asks a local guy to help. This guy takes the editor's car and goes after Thulasi. He asks the locals if they saw thulasi and traces her route which leads him to a hospital. He sees the car outside.

The car driver comes back to the farm house and tells the editor that they had traced thulasi in the hospital. Editor and Somu rush to the hospital which is some 5 miles from the farm house. At the hospital, thulasi is sitting next to an Aids patient, making him shapes with paper (origamy). She tells him that his disease is curable. Editor asks her to come to the farm house. A doctor introduces him to the editor. He tells the editor that THulasi had prescribed some medicine for the Aids patients and that he had not heard of any of the medicine before. He asks if Thulasi is a doctor. The editor tell shim that she is not a medical doctor but has doctorate in Bio Chemistry. They leave the hospital. In the corridor, thulasi prescribes some weird medication to passing by patients.

They come out of the hospital and get into the car. Somu notices something at a distance. It is the christian priest that he confronted earlier at his house. This guy is talking to someone.

Arthi somehow gets out of her ties and tries to escape. She is held in an old room in a very huge building. The place is very spooky and none to be seen around. She is about to cross the main entrance when the guy who kidnapped her catches her , brings her back and ties her again.....thodarum.
From: kram on Fri Nov 19 20:59:56 2004. [Full View]

Hi all,

good work!!!

The serial is pretty interesting but has sort of lost some steam.
Fortunately, unlike Annamalai it is not a mega serial

Karthik
From: Reena on Fri Nov 19 21:59:09 2004. [Full View]

Thats it. I'm starting to watch soap opera. When does it come on?
From: Surya on Sat Nov 20 2:54:38 2004. [Full View]

Reena,
In other threads I've seen that you are in Davis, that's only a few miles away from wher I live, so there will be no time defference. Here it comes on, on Wed, 7:00pm.
Hope you like it. 8)
From: SSathiya on Tue Nov 23 15:49:13 2004. [Full View]

Hey TS,
What happened to your updates? I dont actually watch this serial but ive been following the story through ur posts...and im missing them..

they were very detailed and entertaining..

ssathiya

From: ts on Wed Nov 24 6:59:40 2004.

SSathiya wrote:

Hey TS,
What happened to your updates? I dont actually watch this serial but ive been following the story through ur posts...and im missing them..

they were very detailed and entertaining..

ssathiya

The serial is aired every wednesday and you can expect an update tomorrow

Rolling Eyes

From: SSathiya on Wed Nov 24 16:42:43 2004. [Full View]

Thanks TS....................
From: ts on Thu Nov 25 5:48:00 2004. [Full View]

Akash is leaving Chidambaram. His granny asks him if he can stay for a bit longer. He tells her that he is expected at his office and has to leave. Abhirami helps him pack his baggage. She sees him pack the bag containing the olaichuvadis and without his knowledge takes it out. and hides it in her dhAvaNi. Akash bids farewell ... Granny sees Abhirami hiding something and asks her to reveal it. She sees the olaichuvadis and snatches it from Abhirami. Abhirami tells granny that Akash had planned to take it with him and that she took it from him without his notice. Granny tells her that Akash will come back atleast for the olaichuvadis....and abhirami murmurs thats what i had in mind...

Somu comes home in the morning and his mum is all furious that he didnt inform them about going to the farm the previous night. He tells his mum that he had asked padma to convey the essage and leave his bike at home to which his mum says that it was someone else that came with the bike and didnt tell them anything. She tells him that she will not accept this sort of behaviour any more. Somu gets wild and leaves home in his bike . He races in the street and another biker accuses him of signalling. Somu tells him that he had indicated and just realises that his indicator has been damaged.. asks for an apology and rushes to Ismail's office.

At Ismail's office, he goes to the reception with all fury and calls for Ismail. Akash comes out and asks Somu to be patient and asks for details. He enquires to the receptionist as to where Ismail is and the receptionist replies that got injured and had gone to the restroom with the fistaid kit. Just then Ismail comes out and Akash asks as to what happened to him. Ismail says that people were working in his room on an airconditioner when some tool had accidentally hit him in his neck and scratched him.

He then goes and talks to Somu. He tells somu that the mechanic is just downstairs. He apologises to somu that he forgot his name. Somu tells him that it is Somu - Someswaran.
Akash hears this from a distance and just realises what the nadi josiyar had told him. The olaichuvadis that he had was that of a Someswaran. Before he could respond, both go downstairs.

The mechanic starts work on Somu's bike. Ismail notices that he is short of cash and tells somu that he will go to the ATM nearby and get some cash. WHile coming out of the ATM, he notices the christian priest (same one somu met in his house and near the farm house). They chat about something and Ismail tells him that he will introduce him to Akash and others at work. They both walk to Ismail's office. Ismail tells the priest that he has to stop at the mechanic for a minute and they both go there. Ismail introduces the priest to Somu and the priest tells him that he already knows somu as Somu's mom, like Ismail does a lot to charity.
Ismail hands over the money to the mechanic and tells somu that he will be back in a minute and goes to the restroom opposite. He is about to enter the toilet when a hand appears with a stamp pad, takes the thumb impression of Ismail.. Ismail falls flat into the toilet.

The priest tells somu that he has to go to the rest room, leaves his diary and goes there. Somu with some curiosity looks into the diary and finds a visiting card of his dad's businessman friend. The priest screams and rushes out of the tolier after seeing ismail... Somu runs there and sees Ismail on the floor... his right thumb doused with ink.

Police are at the scene and they collect finger prints from the toilet. Akash, priest and somu wait outside. The policemen come outside and it is the same AC that deals with the other murders. He is surprised to find somu at the scene..... thodarum......
From: NM on Thu Nov 25 5:55:08 2004. [Full View]

TS:
I have never considered a cable TV (to get Indian Channels) but after reading your excellent updates, I really feel the urge to install one! Thanks very much for taking time to update for us.
Rgds,
NM
From: ts on Thu Nov 25 6:23:38 2004. [Full View]

NM wrote:

TS:
I have never considered a cable TV (to get Indian Channels) but after reading your excellent updates, I really feel the urge to install one!
NM

I shall take it as a compliment

NM wrote:

Thanks very much for taking time to update for us.

You are most welcome.
From: SSathiya on Thu Nov 25 10:23:43 2004. [Full View]

wow TS...

Thanks so much for the update...so finally Akash finds Somu..
I wonder if they really are brothers. That would be interesting...
Now i have to wait another week for the update..

its worth it!!

ssathiya

by the way..do you watch Kanavarukkaga(sun tv)? just asking cause it takes 2 weeks for the serial to come to Canada and i would love to get updates!!!
From: ts on Thu Nov 25 10:43:47 2004. [Full View]

Quote:

by the way..do you watch Kanavarukkaga(sun tv)? just asking cause it takes 2 weeks for the serial to come to Canada and i would love to get updates!!!

I Cant be bothered Watched first two episodes and stopped after that. The actors do a lot of overacting and the plot itself is very cinemati. The sets /costumes are too bad...totally unprofessional. Probably thats why it is aired at 10:30 pm....

sorry...
From: Surya on Thu Nov 25 14:06:50 2004. [Full View]

TS,
Don't forget the hilarious special effects!
From: SSathiya on Thu Nov 25 14:31:02 2004. [Full View]

special effects????
From: ts on Thu Dec 2 5:06:34 2004. [Full View]

I was at work and missed this week. COuld someone do an update please.
From: SSathiya on Thu Dec 2 11:45:02 2004. [Full View]

awwwwwwww........
From: Surya on Thu Dec 2 23:30:53 2004. [Full View]

SSathiya wrote:

special effects????

Yeah, with the constant zooms, and replays of events that have no significance, for ex, if someone dropped a cup when they were washing the dishes, that would be replayed like a million times.
From: Surya on Thu Dec 2 23:44:08 2004. [Full View]

Day before Yesterday on Chithambara Rahasiyam,

Somu is asked by "GOD" (the editor of the magazine) to go to a guest house for a few days, since the police are suspeting Somu in the murder case of Ismail. Somu agrees.
Meanwhile,
Akash is clearing out Ismail's desk, and looks at Somu's visiting card in the drawer.(from the time of the accident)
He remembers the time when he looks @ the voolai Chuvadi taht says Someshwaran, back in Chitambaram @ his gradma's house. He calls the number on the card, and his mother picks up.
Akash: can I talk to Someshwaran.
Mother: He's is out of town, who's this?
Akash: Friend.
Mother: Oh ok, he is out of town for a week.
Akash: Who's this?
Mother: His mother.
Akash: may I know your name?
I forgot the name she says, but it's the same name that appeared on Someshwaran's Vollai, as his mother. Akash gets shocked, and hangs up.

Meanwhile in Y Gee's house.

Y gee gets ready, wears vibhudhi on his head, and starts lighting dheebams around the house. Y Gee's wife asks why.
Y Gee: we hava a Nambhoodhari from Kerala coming here today, he'll tell us about our daughter.
The wife shows discomfort in the decision.

The nambhoodhari comes, and does something with some shells (dice), and looks at a few books, and closes his eyes for a few seconds, and says,
"If your daughter comes back now, you will regret it. The position she is now, will put you through further pain."

The wife throws a fit, Starts saying that the Nambhoodhari is fake, etc. Y gee calms her down, and sends her to another room. The Nambhoodari says that he will say no-more because that will cause the family more grief and leaves the house.

Thats what happend on the last episode.
regards.
8)
From: ts on Fri Dec 3 6:16:32 2004. [Full View]

Thanks a ton
From: SSathiya on Sun Dec 5 13:10:35 2004. [Full View]

Akash: Who's this?
Mother: His mother.
Akash: may I know your name?
I forgot the name she says, but it's the same name that appeared on Someshwaran's Vollai, as his mother. Akash gets shocked, and hangs up.

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In Someshwaran's Vollai did it say that it was somus mom or Akash's mother as well????
From: ts on Mon Dec 6 6:24:09 2004. [Full View]

The volai goes like... Someswaran... son of so-and-so....
From: SSathiya on Tue Dec 7 2:17:10 2004. [Full View]

Do you guys think Akash is Somus brother..then does that mean Somu was adopted or maybe Akash got lost when he was little....
Does it mention Akash's parents anywhere in the serial?
From: Surya on Tue Dec 7 20:47:25 2004. [Full View]

Akashs parents are mentioned, there supposedly somewhere in America. I don't think they're brothers. But this seriel is so unexpected, they might be bros.
From: ts on Thu Dec 9 5:22:47 2004. [Full View]

The christian priest is visiting a village. This is the village where the Reddiar has his chemical factory. He is just about to knock on someone's door when he hears an argument inside.

The villager and his wife are arguing about work. It sems he is wasting time holding stage plays for the priest and not making any money. His wife accuses is accusing the priest for his acts. She tells her husband that Reddiar is not happy with the priest and that he should get away from the priest.

Priest, as if he hadnt heard anything, knocks the door. The villager opens it and welcomes the priext. The priest asks him if he cam come with him as he has to discuss something important. The villager joins the priext and they walk around the village. Enroute, they see many sick people, villagers suffering from skin disease, coughing and people complaining of contamination of water. The villager tells the priest that all of them is because of the contamination from the factory and that it has to be put to an end. The priest takes him to a church. He tells the vilager that Christ's life has to be taken as an example and that he only gave love to those who made him harm. The villager gets enraged and tells him that he is no christ and has to punish Reddiar. The priest tells him that baddies will always be punished. He tells the villager that bad people need to be punished, thats what he wanted to discuss about and takes him into a secluded room...

Akash calls the Nadi josiyar opposite his granny's house and asks him to call Abhirami. Abhirami and Granny are about to go to the temple. A mentally challenged boy is in their doorstep asking for a banana. The nadi josiyar's asst tells them of the phone call and they rsh there. The granny talks to Akash and goes on and on... Abhirami takes the phone from her and speaks to Akash. Akash tells her to asnwer to his questions without granny's knowledge and asks her if the granny had taken his olaichuvadis out. She replies yes. He asks her to get it without granny's knowledge and tells her that he had found the Someswaran mentioned in it. He tells her that his parents name matched with that in the olaichuvadis and he wanted to get more info. He asks her to take it to the Nadi josiyar and ask him to read it to get more info like the profession of Someswaran so that they can confirm that it was the journalist someswaran. He tells her that he will call back in an hour and hangs up.

Abhirami asks the granny to go to the temple and searches for the olaichuvadis in the house. The granny while leaving tells the boy "Someswara, i shall get you a banana when i come back from temple" probably some connection... dont know....

Abhirami finds the olaichivadis and takes it to the nadi josiyar... who is surprised to see it.....

-thodarum-
From: Surya on Thu Dec 9 15:10:49 2004. [Full View]

///////Priest takes him into a secluded room...//////

TS,
I don't know if you noticed or not, but there was a Bero, in front of the secluded room, and on top of the bero, were Volai chuvadies.
From: Surya on Thu Dec 9 15:11:56 2004. [Full View]

I think he might be behind the murder of the other Naadi Joshiyar.
From: SSathiya on Sun Dec 12 23:56:26 2004. [Full View]

Do you guys think that someshwara is Akash's brother??
From: Surya on Mon Dec 13 0:39:48 2004. [Full View]

I think that its a possibility, but not too probable.

Regards. 8)
From: ts on Thu Dec 16 5:43:06 2004. [Full View]

Abhirami asks the nadi josiyar to read the olaichivadis but he refuses citing that he will read it only in the presence of Someswaran. Abhirami asks him as to why he read it to Akash and the josiyar tells her that he wasnt aware of the details then. Abhirami quickly walks out and brings the little Someswaran from the street and tells the josiyar that she has the person and asks him to proceed. He chuckles at her and tells her that she got him and starts reading.

Abhirami asks him to read the sentence where ASomeswaran's profession is given. He reads it out and translates it as "the one who gives the message to the world". They deduce it as referring to a journalist and Abhirami asks him to read further. The josiyar starts reading and his face turns pale. He stammers and abhirami asks him for the reason. He tells her that the olaichivadi has his name, profession etc and he is extremely puzzled... Just then the granny arrives from the temple, sees the olaichuvadis, snatches it from the josiyar and takes it away. The josiyar and Abhirami run behind her... the josiyar screams that it has his name and that he wants to read it... but the granny is not listening.

Akash calls the josiyar and asks him to call Abhirami to the phone. The josiyar tells him that he had read the olaichuvadis. Akash asks him if Somu was a journalist and the josiyar acknowledges that he also tells Akash that the olaichuvadis was speaking of the josiyar... akash is puzzled too...

The receptionist at Akash's office hands over a letter to Akash. She tells him that she found it in Ismail's desk. The letter has Arthi's work address. She tells him that she was not able to send it as Arthi had been missing for a couple of months. Akash opens the envelope and sees Arthi's thumb impression inside.. one that Arthi asked Ismail to scan when they installed fingerprint security devices at the met office.

...at the dungeon, Arthi struggles to free herself and his captor sedates her with a syringe... she goes into deep sleep...

YGM is sitting at home with some astronogy books around. His wife is worried about his state and he always speaks of Arthi. He tells his wife that the horoscope of Arthi matched with that of Queen Elizabeth I. England lost everything they had when QEI was in power and same is happening here... QEI travelled a lot but eventually returned home and similarly Arthi will come back...

Somu is at the farm house where he sees the gardener screaming at the plants. He asks him about it and the gardener tells him that he had planted two plants at the same time , one had grown properly and the other is dying. Somu giggles at this and asks him if the plants can hear. Thulasi intervenes and asks him if Snakes have ears or ants/bats have eyes .. and as to how they survive. Somu tells her that even if the plant can hear, does it know tamil.. and giggles. Thulasi tells him that emotions do not need a language and asks him as to what language does his laughter belong to....Somu does not have an answer... thodarum...
From: SSathiya on Thu Dec 16 20:00:49 2004. [Full View]

Hey guys!
One thing that really annoys me about this serial is the way Akash talks. Its so fake..i mean who talks that way....
They want to give the effect that hes american raised ..but still...American ppl dont talk that way...at least i havent heard anyone speak like that.
Ive gotten to the point where i want to turn off the dvd player when i hear him speak....ahhh!!!!

From: ts on Fri Dec 17 5:19:11 2004.

SSathiya wrote:

Hey guys!
One thing that really annoys me about this serial is the way Akash talks. Its so fake..i mean who talks that way....
They want to give the effect that hes american raised ..but still...American ppl dont talk that way...at least i havent heard anyone speak like that.
Ive gotten to the point where i want to turn off the dvd player when i hear him speak....ahhh!!!! Evil or Very Mad

Evil or Very Mad

Its a lot different in the recent episodes after his tamil lessons from Abhirami

From: nirosha sen on Tue Dec 21 9:46:56 2004. [Full View]

Sigh......wish we could watch this serial in Malaysia!!! But looks like Radaan has some sort of agreement with our Astro Vaanavil, that they alone are hogging the limelight!!!

If only this serial comes to us, then the whole ching bang from Annamalai could re-route here Pa!!!

Sigh .......
From: shilpa on Tue Dec 21 10:58:10 2004. [Full View]

I donnno abt the serial story and all.but the guy who comes as the detective is veryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy tall and sexyyyyyyyyyy.I luv him.Thats it.but that guy doesnt seems to know tamil well.He speaks as if he is from northIndia.Veryyyyyyyyy sexy he looks.I luv him
From: ts on Thu Dec 23 6:20:49 2004. [Full View]

Servent maid brings some buttermilk and tells them that it is good for them as they eat lot of hot food which will give them ulcer. Thulasi brings a paper parrot and places it on Somu's pocket and asks her if the parrot, which eats chillies, will get ulcer as well and giggles. The servent maid tells them she is off to the market place and asks Somu to come with her as he seems to be bored sitting around all day. Somu joins her and they go to the village shop. While she is busy purchasing, Somu notices a car dropping off some one and going past him. The car stops and reverses and in it is Reddiar, Somu's dad's friend and the owner of the chemical factory. Reddiar is surprised to see Somu and invites him to his factory. Somu joins him and enroute Reddiar tells him that he has come to the factory as there had been an accident and workers are revolting and that he has agreed to pay compensation blah blah. He has an asthma attack and gets his inhaler out while driving . Somu notices that his right thumb is doused with ink and screams. Reddiar stops the car and asks somu if all is okay. Somu panics and asks him of the ink and reddiar tells him that he had registered some land in the morning where they took his thumb print.

When they enter the factory, a bunch of masked people confront them and ask for justice. It seems the accident at the factory was that of an employee's face deformed due to an acid spill. Reddiar asks them to leave but they confront him and start to manhandle him. Reddiar quickly pulls a gun from his hip an fires a warning shot. The masked men scatter and run away. While they are leaving, one of them, Nandan, the villager who is a friend of the priest sees Somu ... Somu notices him as well. Reddiar calls somu inside and seems to have taken a hit from the protesters. He feels uncomfortable and rubs his elbows and neck. Somu asks him if he is okay and Reddiar tells him that he had seen many such protests and that he is okay.

Somu and Reddiar go into the office and Reddiar asks for the tea boy to bring them some coffee. He sees the paper parrot on Somu's pocket and is impressed with it. He asks Somu if he can have it and Somu gives it to him. Reddiar tries to find a place to keep the paper parrot in his desk and his co-ordination fails. Reddiar's face turns pale and his mouth all foaming up... Somu is petrified and rushes out of the office. Padma is sitting outside and is surprised to see SOmu. Somu tells him that Reddiar is dead and they both rush back to the farm house.

The editor is at the farm house and is not happy with them. He tells somu that since they ran out of the crime scene, they are the prime suspects. He asks Padma for the reason to visit Reddiar. Padma tells him that Reddiar had asked him to come to the factory to take some photographs. Editor is not at all happy and is furious at both of them. Just then he gets a phone call from the AC who is dealing with the murders. The AC tells him of Reddiar's death and asks him if Somu or any of his men were at the factory. Editor tells him that Somu was with him all day and noone from his office went there. The AC is not convinced but hangs up. He is suspicious as he has the paper parrot...Thodarum...
From: ts on Thu Dec 30 4:58:25 2004. [Full View]

Arthi wakes from her sedation and hears some noises in the room. She sees two men talking. The first one gives the second, a bunch of olaichuvadis and tells him that they are Reddiar�s chuvadis.� seems to be an organized gang. First one asks the other if the �injection� had been given to Arthi and the second one says that he has not got clearnance for that�

YGM is in the street with a local. They are after a �Tea� samiyar. Seems that this samiyar is a powerful one and his predictions are never wrong. The local asks YGM to get 4 glasses of �Tea� from a tea shop as this is the offering to the samiyar. The samiyar arrives and looks like an insane man. He sits in the corner of an open plot and people start offering him tea. He refuses tea from many and take stea from some and gives some predictions. YGM takes tea to him and the man asks YGM if he had lost the �flower�. YGM replies �yes, its my daughter�. The samiyar tastes the tea and asks him to go to Vaidheeswaran koil, where he will not only find the �flower� but the �root� as well.

YGM returns home and his wife is not happy with his actions. He consoles his wife and tells her that he does this only to get his daughter back and leaves for Vaidheeswaran koil.

Outside the temple at Vaidheeswaran Koil, YGM waits for the bus back home when he meets a friend. This friend tells him that he had been to Vaidheeswaran koil to find out about his mother who was missing for over 10 years. He tells YGM that the nadi josiyar had predicted the exact location where she was blah blah� YGM cancels his trip to Chennai and visits a local Nadi josiyar. This josiyar brings 100 olaichuvadis that match his name/finger print and starts to read. Some match his profile but there are a few discrepancies. The josiyar tells him that his chuvadis have not been found and asks YGM to come after 10 days by which time his olaichuvadis would be found.

YGM asks him if he can find Arthi�s chuvadis using her jAdagam. The chief josiyar tells him that it will not be a perfect match and asks him to bring Arthi�s finger print so that they can pinpoint her exact location�. Thodarum�
From: ts on Thu Jan 6 6:13:16 2005. [Full View]

YGM comes back home. His wife starts to speak about his nursign home but he repeatedly speaks of Nadi josiyam and she gets irritated. The door bell rings and it is someone from the met office. This is Arthi's friend and he has a memo from the new chief. YGM tells him that he wanted Arthi to leave the job anyway and is not bothered about the memo. The guy tells him that the chain of events happened at the met office were unfortunate, first Arthi's kidnapping and the murder of the chief... and all this happened even after installing the state of the art finger print security systems... YGM jumps up and asks him if they would have Arthi's fingerprint and asks for a printout. The guy tells him that they have no means to do that but can ask Akash's company who installed them. He asks YGM to come to Akash's company in the morning and promises to help.

Both visit Akash the next day and the guy introduces YGM to Akash. YGM asks him for the printout and Akash asks him for details. He is shocked to hear Arthi's name but doesnt tell them anything about Ismail's letter that has Arthi's fingerprint. He asks them to wait for sometime and goes into his room. He then calls the officeboy and asks him to take a photocopy of Arthi's fingerprint an hands it over to YGM. YGM thanks him and tells him that he is off to Vaidheeswaran Koil and leaves hastily. The other guy tells Akash that YGM has become like this after Arthi got lost. When Akash asks him for details, he tells him that Arthi got lost when she went to see Somu. Akash is shocked again to hear Somu's name.

Akash calls Neithal magazine to talk to Somu but Somu is not there. He asks the receptionist for Somu's address who refuses. He tells her that he is Somu's childhood friend, who has just arrived from the US. The receptionist asks Chaya for help. Chaya and Padma give Akash Somu's address but suspect something. They decide to go to Somu's place to tell his parents of the phone call.

A man with an injection in his hand approaches Arthi. She screams and asks him as to what that is. The man injects her and tells her it is the blood of an Aids patient.... arthi screams again.... thodarum...
From: jaiganes on Thu Jan 6 6:43:58 2005. [Full View]

After a long time there is some good suspense serial.

I feel that the editor of Neithal 'GOD' is the person behind everything. It is my gutt feeling.

Lets wait and c.
From: Surya on Thu Jan 6 13:25:01 2005. [Full View]

I was so shocked when I found out about the AIDS injection. I doubt if he's telling the truth though.
From: shakthi on Thu Jan 6 21:04:19 2005. [Full View]

ooooohhhhh...... I can't wait for next thursday. This is really so full of suspense. I wish they air it over here in Malaysia.

Keep up the postings, ts!
From: nirosha sen on Fri Jan 7 12:07:39 2005. [Full View]

What does Neithal mean???? Is it the same as weaving????
From: ts on Fri Jan 7 12:50:14 2005. [Full View]

nirosha sen wrote:

What does Neithal mean???? Is it the same as weaving????

Tamil language classifies lands into 5 types

kurinji - Hills
mullai - Forest
marutham - Cultivable
neithal - Coastal
pAlai - Desert/wasteland
From: Cinefan on Thu Jan 13 2:04:43 2005. [Full View]

i missed yesterday's episode,can someone tell me what happened?
From: ts on Thu Jan 13 6:13:35 2005. [Full View]

Chaya and Padma are at Somu's house, interviewing Somu's mum when Akash arrives. Somu's Dad gets the door and AKash introduces himself as Somu's childhood friend and asks for Somu. Somu's dad tells him that Somu has gone out of station and will be back after 10 days. Akash gives him his card and asks him to give it to Somu. While they are chatting, the phone rings and Somu's dad picks it up. It is the Asst Commissioner who wants Somu for an enquiry.

Akash takes leave and Somu's dad gives his card to his wife adn asks her to give it to Somu when he comes. Somu's mum leaves the card there and goes inside to get some Coffee for Padma and Chaya. They take a look at the card and Padma tells Chaya that Akash cant be Somu's friend as as far as he knows, this Akash was born and brought up in America. Chaya asks him as to how he knows about that and he tells her that its something that he will tell her later.

Somu is in the farm and sees some workers coming n for work. One of them is Nandan. He spots Nandan and asks him to stop. Nandan sees Somu and starts to flee. Somu gives him a chase and Nandan runs into the village and hides inside his house. He tells his wife that Reddiar's friend is chasing him and goes out thru the back door. Somu finds his house and comes inside. He asks his wife for his whereabouts and she starts to cry. She falls in Somu's feet and asks for mercy. She tells him that Nandan is a good man but it is the priest who is making him do things. Somu asks her for the priest's name and finds out that it is the same person who comes to his house. He sees the back door open and rushes outsife in pursuit of Nandan.

He sees a church at a distance and goes there. Nandan follows him from behind, wihtout being seen. At the church, he sees the priest kneeling down, praying. He calls out for the priest and asks him as to why he had been doing the killings. The priest doesnt respond. Somu goes near him and calls him when he sees a needle sticking out of his neck....his thumb doused with ink... Somu screams and tries to revive the priest and shouts why all around him die in this fashion. Nandan comes in and sees the priest and starts shouting.. Somu tells him that it was not him who killed the priest .. but to deaf ears....thodarum...
From: Cinefan on Thu Jan 13 7:34:56 2005. [Full View]

thanks ts
From: Surya on Thu Jan 13 16:53:16 2005. [Full View]

This is so puzzling. Can't figure out who is behind all of this.
From: SSathiya on Sat Jan 15 22:38:21 2005. [Full View]

Hmm...
It can be the editor, padma, or the editors daugther. Those are my three guesses....
From: Surya on Mon Jan 17 14:39:03 2005. [Full View]

True,
but isn't the editor's daughter a bit too crazy to mastermind all of this?
From: SSathiya on Mon Jan 17 21:23:23 2005. [Full View]

eXACTLY!!!
Thats what most of us would think when we see her right. THis is just a way for us to take our attention away from her, but she could be the killer.
From: Surya on Mon Jan 17 21:45:43 2005. [Full View]

Quiet possible. Man! Naga is a hell of a director!
From: ts on Tue Jan 18 5:12:47 2005. [Full View]

I think it is the tango of the two - Thulasi and Padma behind all the killings.....

Padma was the last one Arthi had contacted.
Padma was wearing red shirt and blue pant - description that the josiyar gave...
Padma was there when Reddiar was killed
He knows too much about Akash and others
The poison used was invented by Thulasi...

Something similar to events in the movie "whistle" where there are two "nagas" killing around and when one is the killer, the other covers up by making his/her innocent presence ...

Having said that, from what we know of Naga, i could be entirely wrong.....
From: Surya on Tue Jan 18 14:46:54 2005. [Full View]

TS,
Basically all horror movies/novels have 2 murderers. Such as 10 Little Indians by Agatha Cristie. Also came out as And Then There Were None. I think that all of the Scream movies had 2 murderers right? But I think that Naga would find something like this as 'too obvious' But lets see.
From: jaiganes on Tue Jan 18 23:42:40 2005. [Full View]

I strongly feel that the editor is the killer. In fact my guess is that he would have seen his own naadi and would have found out that Somu is the guy who is going to catch him and get him arrested. So he decides to keep him in his vigil. Motive for killing could be revenge for his daughter's altered mental state.

From: ts on Wed Jan 19 11:39:23 2005.

jaiganes wrote:

I strongly feel that the editor is the killer. In fact my guess is that he would have seen his own naadi and would have found out that Somu is the guy who is going to catch him and get him arrested. So he decides to keep him in his vigil. Motive for killing could be revenge for his daughter's altered mental state.

Editor might be the one but i question your reason though... If he thought so, why not put a needle in Somu's neck instead.... would save him a few murders ...

May be it can be extended to Somu and his friend/associate/ contact ...... and may be that the killer is executing all he thinks are close to somu.... and the main contact could be Akash... who has not "met" Somu yet...

From: jaiganes on Thu Jan 20 0:11:04 2005. [Full View]

TS,
You are correct on one count. Let me rephrase my reasoning. Editor keeps somu close to him so that he can frame all murders on Somu! Keep him under his custody so that Somu cannot go out and prove his innocence or track the original killer. Infact in the las episode, the police seem to be convinced that Somu could be the killer. Also it would be interesting to see if Somu's mother had something to do with all this.
From: Cinefan on Thu Jan 20 1:36:57 2005. [Full View]

Well,Somu's' ola chuvadi'is with Akash's patti&in yesterday's episode,Akash has come back to Chidambaram to have it read so that a solution can be found to Somu's problems,will it happen?If he does manage to have the 'chuvadi'read,will it have a solution?More than the excitement of who the killer is(that's supposed to be a surprise&i prefer it that way than hazarding a guess),i am more interested in this aspect.
From: ts on Thu Jan 20 5:38:28 2005. [Full View]

Guys,

Watched only the second part of yesterdays episode.

The editor comes to Somu's house. He notices someone outside, noticing him... probably a cop. Somu's mum confronts him and asks for the whereabouts of Somu. She tells him that it is all because of him that Somu is in this state today.

Somu's dad pacifies her and asks for the editor to apologise for her actions. The editor tells him that she is right...but he didnt expect such developments and that Somu is innocent and he could not have and had not commited the murders. He tells them that Somu is in a safe place and contacting him is not good for him as well as the family and asks them to be patient....thodarum...

could some one fill up the gap please......
From: happyindian on Thu Jan 20 6:07:37 2005. [Full View]

I think this is also another mystery:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/996031.cms

Another person was killed in Kanchipuram this morning, the Mutt Manager of Vaishno Uttaranchal Mutt, like the Shankararaman murder (for which first Jayendra Swamigal, next Vijayendra Swamigal went to jail). Who is doing these killings?

The producer of Chidambara ragasiyam serial can definitely make this real-life story into another mega-serial project.
From: gmax2k5 on Thu Jan 20 22:54:50 2005. [Full View]

I am great fan of Naga, and I know him personally, and this serial is great. I will join you guys, and we can share what the thriller is going to be about, and who is behind all this. I love this marma thodar. yesterday's episode didn't have much action, but still liked it. Until now, my only doubt is one person. the Edtior GOD's daughter, when the weathergirl, looked up on yahoo groups, and found information on GOD's daughter, she was shocked, and wanted to let Somu know about it, and she got kidnapped and everything. so it revolves around the daughter, and her illness i believe. well, share your opinion guys. ttyl. i will be here often.
From: CR001 on Wed Jan 26 0:39:58 2005. [Full View]

I agree with those who say that naga is doing a good job...after a long time there is a good gripping serial in the tamil chinna thirai...
I do wish he keeps it to just 50 episodes and ends it...
I also think that it is thulasi who is definitely involved in this...
I do have a feeling GOD is also party to this...
From: kssaran on Wed Jan 26 21:58:51 2005. [Full View]

Ooops its Republic Day yesterday. So, This week episode of Chidambara Ragasiyam was not broadcasted yesterday. Extending the Thrill by another one week
From: annamalaiar on Thu Jan 27 7:32:31 2005. [Full View]

I've been reading up TS's updates on C.R. It is SO interesting... the mysterious assassin still at large. I wonder how many episodes more?

Keep the updates coming TS, And Thanks in advance.
--- A.R.

From: ts on Thu Jan 27 7:46:02 2005.

annamalaiar wrote:

I've been reading up TS's updates on C.R. It is SO interesting... the mysterious assassin still at large. I wonder how many episodes more?

Keep the updates coming TS, And Thanks in advance.
--- A.R.

You are most welcome.

From: ts on Thu Jan 27 10:27:11 2005.

CR001 wrote:

I agree with those who say that naga is doing a good job...after a long time there is a good gripping serial in the tamil chinna thirai...
I do wish he keeps it to just 50 episodes and ends it...
I also think that it is thulasi who is definitely involved in this...
I do have a feeling GOD is also party to this...

I think thulasi is behind all this. I read in an interview that she plays a schizophrenic in the serial. The "other" face probably is the killer which she covers up with her crazy identity....remember Arthi was searching the net on "Dr Thulasi - bio chemistry" etc etc etc.

From: gmax2k5 on Thu Jan 27 10:42:23 2005. [Full View]

but i hope its not as simple as Thulasi is a pschizophrenic or something. there must be something greater to it than that. how come whoever somu meets ends up dead, and they collect every dead person's nadi. and if it is thulasi, what does she have to do with those goondas who kidnapped that girl, and another shocking thing is when they said that they injected an aid's patient's blood into her. lets hope we can get some action next week, and i too hope that naga wont make it into a mega serial, but a part of me says that this is going to take sometime before we find out who the killer is. but you know sometimes our prediction that thulasi has something to do with it might be wrong, the director mgiht have a twist or something, maybe its thulasi's dad. but lets wait and see, i just hope naga finishes this serial in a year. already six months are over since this serial started, so i hope another 6months. well, share u thoughts. ttyl
From: kelly on Thu Jan 27 20:18:12 2005. [Full View]

I've been following the write ups, and i think Padma is the killer. I wish the serial will be aired in Malaysia. TS thanks for the updated, keep up the good work.
From: gmax2k5 on Sun Jan 30 23:46:37 2005. [Full View]

i dont remember Padma from the serial.
From: kelly on Sun Jan 30 23:59:42 2005. [Full View]

Padma is Somu's friend, the photographer
From: CR001 on Tue Feb 1 13:50:26 2005. [Full View]

Will chidambara rahasyam be telecasted tomm?
will there be updates?
From: ts on Wed Feb 2 7:17:59 2005. [Full View]

CR001 wrote:

Will chidambara rahasyam be telecasted tomm?
will there be updates?

I think it will be telecast and i hope to watch it and do an update tomorrow fingers crossed
From: CR001 on Wed Feb 2 21:59:40 2005. [Full View]

I do hope it is telecasted...
I cant bear this suspense...
do let us know ASAP
Thanks
From: RK on Wed Feb 2 23:40:54 2005. [Full View]

Ya CR0001, I am also waiting in anticipation for the updates... I wonder when they are going to air this show in M'sia....
From: kelly on Thu Feb 3 1:11:34 2005. [Full View]

any updates for yesterday episode..
From: ts on Thu Feb 3 5:42:35 2005. [Full View]

Police officers from the city are having a discussion about the deaths. The AC lists the people murdered and mentions that all died of the same cause but different posions have been used and that there is no connection between the dead. He tells that the right hand thumb impression of the dead were taken. This could mean only two things...either Nadi josiyam or biometrics.. only these two fields use impression from right hand thimb. He asks an officer to follow the Nadi Josiyam lead and another to follow the biometrics lead. He tells them about Somu, who is a suspect and who had been at the scene of all the murders and asks for him to be found soon.

The editor arrives at the farm. He calls his gardener and asks him if Somu is okay. He asks him if anyone knows of his whereabouts. The gardener tells him that even the house maid doesnt know of Somu's whereabouts and that he will keep it that way. The editor gives him Somu's mobile and a new sim card and asks him to give them to somu. He asks the gardener to keep Somu safe.

Akash and Abirami go to Mani, the Nadi josiyar opposite his granny's house. He asks Abhirami to keep watch for his granny and goes inside. Mani sees a bag with Akash and asks him if he has the Olaichuvadis. Akash tells him that he is still searching for it and takes the thumb impression of Arthi from his bag. He asks Mani to find and read out the chuvadi for Arthi. Mani goes inside and comes back with a small pack of chuvadis. He tells Akash that he had been to Vaidheeswaran koil recently, when a friend forced him to take the small pack of chuvadis...belonging to Individuals with name "Arthi". He asks for her dad's name and gets out one chuvadi. It says that her dad is "Thillai rajan" and that she works for something related to Sky and climate. He reads out further and the chuvadi says that she is into big trouble and will have to suffer a lot. It also says thaat she will suffer from a disease that will not be curable. It ends there with a comment asking them to read the "vasishta nadi" for further info. Mani tells Akash that this is unique as it is the first time that he has seen a chuvadi that asks to refer another chuvadi. Akash asks him to get and read the vasishta nadi. Mani tell shim that he is not familiar with vasishta nadi and that only Poosamuthu from Vaidheeswaran koil does it.

The gardener goes home with food and Somu is inside his house. He gives Somu some food and the mobile phone. He tells Somu that the editor had asked him to go elsewhere and gives him some money. He asks Somu to go to a nearby village to his friend's house where he will be safe. The gardener checks outside his house and sees a neighbour outside. He asks the lady to get some kerosene for his stove and when the lady goes inside to fetch it, he asks Somu to leave. The lady comes back with Kerosene and asks him as to what he is cooking. He tells her that he is making Rice and visham (poison)...she enquires again to which he says... rasam....milagu rasam....and murmurs "milagu is posion... so is rasam..."

Two men come to Arthi and force her to drink something. She refuses. One man slaps her and asks her to drink again. He tells her that she will feel better if she takes it and that is just Milagu rasam.....camera zooms out and there are bottles of some chemicals and acid....thodarum...
From: jaiganes on Thu Feb 3 6:07:47 2005. [Full View]

Quote:

.....camera zooms out and there are bottles of some chemicals and acid....thodarum...

It is written on the tumbler " Paadharasam" which is mercury. Remember GOD asked someone to write on mercury and its effects and how it is freely available in India.
From: Cinefan on Thu Feb 3 7:02:00 2005. [Full View]

Jaiganesh,
You are right.A girl has come to do a project with the 'Neithal'magazine.She has two subjects to write on&when she asks GOD for his opinion,he advises her to write on 'Mercury'.It's the same girl who accompanies Padma to Somu's house to check out on Akash.The Padma character is looking quite insignificant till now but I feel it is destined for bigger things(positve or negative).
From: gmax2k5 on Thu Feb 3 18:51:02 2005. [Full View]

wow, didn't really know it was mercury. so what did they give her mercury? i dont understand. well anyways, i have a small doubt on that servant that provided everything to somu. when GOD gave him the sim card, he just gave him the sim card, but when the servant gave him that sim card, it was in a small plastic packet, like it was brand new, and he gave that address to go to the next town, i think he is kinda setting up somu, and GOD's face when thulasi said somu is romba pavam. i believe thulasi has something to do with it, i doubt padma, and that girl who work at neithal have anything to do with the murders, but who knows, lets watch.
From: RK on Thu Feb 3 20:25:28 2005. [Full View]

it looks like there are more & more characters coming in....very confusing... I've got a feeling that the editor is behind all the murders and Somu is his scapegoat...that's why he is protecting him..
Anyway, I have a small request, can someone tell me who is who in this serial...So far, I only know Padma is the guy who played Sakthi in the serial Annamalai..
From: jaiganes on Fri Feb 4 2:09:15 2005. [Full View]

you are right RK.
GOD , Editor is Mohan Ram . he is a veteran of many serials and is the son of Dr.Ram family doctor of MGR
The paatti of Aakash in chidambaram is Bombay Gnaanam another veteran of many serials and plays. She also has an all women play troupe!!
The naadi jodhidar of chidambaram who is also the chithappa of aakash is the guy who plays the role of chithappa of Devayani in Kolangal. He also played the very famous role of mokkayan in Vidaadhu Karuppu , again as the chithappa of Chethan in that serial. Whatever be his name, I guess people are now calling him "Chithappa" (Sarathkumar fans ! no offense please).
apart from these faces, other known faces I could recollect in this serial are the murdered father who appeared in Marma dhesam and Vidaadhu karuuppu and the reddigaaru who is a well known mimicry artist (mimics kamal really well) who also is currently the husband of cine actress ambika (of the ambika radha fame).

I saw this aakash guy in Ramamoorthy nagar Bangalore. I cannot confirm whether he is originally from Bangalore.
From: RK on Fri Feb 4 3:05:03 2005. [Full View]

Jai, thanks for your introduction... Now I can visualize as I read on. I wonder if the serial is on today...
From: jaiganes on Fri Feb 4 4:04:23 2005. [Full View]

nope!
only on wednesdays 8-30 PM IST. You can expect updates on thursdays.
From: RK on Fri Feb 4 4:11:57 2005. [Full View]

ok..thanks..
Did you watch the serial Kungumam? How is ending like?
From: ts on Fri Feb 4 5:42:57 2005. [Full View]

Somu is played by Krishna. He had been in a few ads... notable one is Rin Soap, the one where the hotel server cleans up the coffee spill in the table with his shirt.....

Thillairajan is YGMahendra. Mani, the nadi josiyar is the guy who plays the Kapalika in Rudhraveenai.

Thulasi is played by Malavika of Anni (also acted in the movie JJ)
From: CR001 on Fri Feb 4 18:12:10 2005. [Full View]

Hi
this question might be a liitle out of sync...but I was reading a few updates and I realised that I did not know why somu was running after that nandan....
what is the reason for it?
kindly explain
CR001
From: jaiganes on Sun Feb 6 23:30:53 2005. [Full View]

Nandan was the guy who organized protests in Reddiar's factory. He threatened Reddiar and was wearing a mask. When he removes his mask, Somu catches a glimpse of him. Also Somu suspects that in the commotion during protests, Reddiyar was manhandled and possibly poisoned during that time. These are the reasons why Somu chased Nandan. interesting to note was the presence of Padma there too.
From: jaiganes on Sun Feb 6 23:34:01 2005. [Full View]

RK wrote:

Quote:

Did you watch the serial Kungumam? How is ending like?

Sorry RK, I didn't follow that serial. All I knew was that Kushbu got plump Jaya TV offers and then the serial had to be ended somewhat abruptly.
From: jaiganes on Wed Feb 9 12:44:31 2005. [Full View]

I have been asked by ts to update as he will not be available for a week. Now for this week's action.

Chidambara Ragasiyam Episode # 32.

Somu's Thread
-------------

Somu enters Mugilan's village. In the entrance he is greeted by a mad woman
She says "to enter my village, you have to pay me money". Somu is irritated
and shoos her off. She says "enakku edhuvum tharalenna, kanakku sari varaadhu"
(means if you won't pay, it won't tally) and gheroes him. One elderly person
interjects and sends the woman away. She fades into silhautte repeating the
same words. The elderly person enquires , whether he is from chennai, Somu murmurs
"yes". The elderly man asks him about the business that brought him to this village.
Somu says he is here to see Muniswamy. The elderly man exclaims "Is it Tailor munisamy?"
Somu again murmurs yes. The elderly man takes him to Munisamy's house. The house is
locked and a neighbour informs them that Munisamy has left with his family for mumbai.
Somu decides to spend the night in the thinnai of munisamy's house.

Aakash's Thread
---------------

Aakash is unsuccesfully trying to reach Somu. Paatti comes calling him and Aakash tries to act
normal. Upon inquiry, he says that he is trying to reach his friend and network is unavailable
inside. Paatti says she knows whom Somu is trying to reach and laments that somu is the reason
why he has comeback. She says that he will never get the "Oalai chuvadi", the naadi reading.
Paatti then asks him what he would like to have for dinner and he says ok for upma. Patti says
"Do not ask Wheat saadham and appalam" like his grand father.

Thillai Raajan Thread
---------------------

Thillai raajan asks the "Vashishtar naadi" astrologers to read the suvadis. The astrologer begins
by reading "Ganapathi Invocation". The astrologer reads the poems which get all details about Thillai
raajan's daughter correct. This includes her name, stars, parents profession and her profession.
The next poem tells that the girl is kidnapped and is in great danger and this naadi will be read in such
grave circumstances. He nods and asks them to continue reading and asks them desperately where she is now.
Further reading reveals that Aarthi is housed in "yama's direction" which is south of the city where her
parents live. Further poems reveal that aarthi has AIDS and YGM is genuinely shattered. The
astrologers ask him whether they can continue. He says yes and is surprised to hear the poems that follow.
The poems say that the disease is curable, but further reading of "Oushadha Kaandam" of the suvadi only
will reveal the treatment for the disease. The catch is that before it can be read, the parents must
perform a parigaaram, after which, their daughter will return to them.

The parigaaram has two parts:
1. Offering to Vrithhiga devi deity in Aivar kaadi.
2. Food personally prepared and served to 7 saadhus. The leaf in which they eat, must be cleared by the
parents of the girl.

This will ensure the blessings of sabdha rishis to the girl, by virtue of which, she will soon be released
from her captors. Thillai raajan leaves the place with hope of seeing his daughter but grief too to
know that she might be suffering from AIDS.

Once he is back, he is concerned how he will be able to open this topic to Sivakami and his second daughter.
Coincidentally he finds that his daughter is preparing for a project on AIDS. He tells her to prepare in an
angle how family members should be supportive if someone among them have AIDS. Sivagami is intrigued and queries
him further. He reveals everything and she is repulsed and shocked. She does not believe him and chides him
for not having approached Police yet. When he says that she should cooperate for the shanthi to be done next tuesday,
She is not convinced.
End of this episode.

**** My digression ************

We will do well to remember that Thulasi once escapes from the farm house and enters a hospital where she sits next to an AIDS patient and remarks that it is curable!!!
*************************************

Now the floor is open.........
From: kelly on Wed Feb 9 13:13:44 2005. [Full View]

what is the motive to to capture Thulasi and inject her with Aids?
From: jaiganes on Wed Feb 9 13:22:44 2005. [Full View]

Kelly wrote:

Quote:

what is the motive to to capture Thulasi and inject her with Aids?

Thulasi is not captured. She was being housed in Editor's farm house remember? She takes car without telling anyone in one episode, then she is in a hospital where the Father who was murdered was also there. I was referring to that episode. Thulasi remarks in that episode that there are chemicals that can cure AIDS.
From: CR001 on Wed Feb 9 20:54:49 2005. [Full View]

how does akash get hold of arthi's finger print?
does he see arthi at all?
also does anyone know how many episodes this serial will extend to?
From: jaiganes on Wed Feb 9 23:09:49 2005. [Full View]

Aakash had arthi's finger print in his company database as they were the ones who installed biometrics security system in the met office. In fact when Thillai raajan asks for aarthi's finger print, Aaakash takes a copy and shows it to his chithappa to read that while Thillai rajan shows it to a different nadi astrologer. He does see Aarthi once and that was early in the serial.

CR001 wrote:

Quote:

also does anyone know how many episodes this serial will extend to?

That's a chidambara ragasiyam too!!!.
In fact such serials peter out later and continue longer than planned simply because of pressure from sponsors and TRP ratings.
I had read Indira sounderrajan's Marma dhesam series in Anandha Vikatan before. It had a crisp and clear ending. When the serial was made, it turned out to be a long draw, ultimately leaving everyone confused. Fortunately Vidaadhu Karuppu was done better. Even in that serial the fate of Mohan Ram's character would have been left dangling. I hope that Aakash's character does not meet the same fate in this serial.
From: Cinefan on Thu Feb 10 1:32:33 2005. [Full View]

By any chance,is Aarthi being used as a guinea pig to find a cure for AIDS.The nadi josiyar says by fulfilling the conditions(food to 7 sadhus etc)Aarthi will come back,but what about the cure?Who will read the 'Oushada Kandam'?
From: CR001 on Thu Feb 10 14:04:17 2005. [Full View]

I agree with you jaiganesh...I have this distinct feeling that this akash is going to turn out to be a useless character....
one saving grace is he dosent talk in english as much....(-:
From: jaiganes on Fri Feb 11 1:36:18 2005. [Full View]

Quote:

Who will read the 'Oushada Kandam'?

It is the same naadi jodhidars, but the shaanthi prescribed must be done in order for that to be read.
As far as your doubts regarding Aarthi being used as guinea pig, it makes sense as the gang wastes no time in finishing people off
From: Cinefan on Fri Feb 11 1:59:04 2005. [Full View]

Hmmmm,if the objective is to find a cure for AIDS bypassing the regular clinical trials with govt sanction(Maybe because their cure has not been scientifically derived)why are so many people being killed&their 'Nadi's'being read? I somehow can't believe that Akash will turn out to be a useless character,I feel he will play an imp part.Good he has stopped talking in that horrible slang of English,why did they make him talk like that in the first place???
Naga is doing a pretty good job in maintaining the suspense&letting viewers imagination run riot.That's the basic requirement for a suspense thriller.
From: CR001 on Mon Feb 14 0:20:04 2005. [Full View]

Yes I am so happy that akash has dropped his slang....
I think naga should stop the mystery murders. It is getting way too many now..I think he should concenrate more on trying to solve the riddles....like cinefan mentions where is the connection between AIDS cure and nadi jothitar and SO MANY MURDERS....
CR001
From: jaiganes on Thu Feb 17 1:53:02 2005. [Full View]

As ts hasn't updated, I guess he must be busy somewhat. So I post the update of yesterday's episode.

Episode #33

Thillai Rajan Thread
---------------------

Thillai Rajan remains worried as his wife is not cooperating in performing the parigaaram. His wife meanwhile is dead against doing all the parigaarams and insists on following up with police. She calls up Somu's parents and asks them to come over and advice Thillai Rajan. Somu's father Natarajan asks Thillai Rajan about his state of mind. Thillai Rajan says he is fine and insists that the parigaaram needs to be done first and going to police can come later. Natarajan asks Thillai Rajan's wife to do this parigaaram as it would help Thillai Rajan to get some semblance of normalcy back. She agrees to do it grudgingly.

Meanwhile..

Somu's Thread
-------------

Nandhan (the street play artist) is in the village where Somu is staying. His troupe are planning to stage a street play against the action of government to lease the local hill to stone quarry. They are preparing a handwritten pamphlet, whose decoration is done by fingerprints.Nandha remembers the dead 'father' who showed him the way by asking him to stage protest plays. The mad woman who welcomed somu when he entered the village is pestering them with requests of something to eat for the "crows". She says that when some one dies, they become crows. Nanda takes pity of her and buys her a piece of bun. He then goes to a secluded place to attend nature's call. A few moments later Somu comes running from the place and Nandha's friend spots him and tries to catch him, but Somu runs away. Nandha's friend runs into the thicket searching Nandhaa and no prizes for guessing what happened. Nandha meets the same fate as Father and Ismail.

Police Thread
-------------

The SP is furious as one more murder has happened and chides his junior officers for not keeping track of Nandhan. He also wonders how Somu is able to track his victims and wonders how this lone person could track his victims on the fly. A few moments later couple of officers bring the pamphlet nandhan was preparing and say that it has nandhan's prints all over. The SP says it is of no use and would rather settle for the killer's prints. He later changes his mind and asks them to read nandhan's naadi with the prints. He is convinced that the naadi josiyam has got something to do with all this.

Aarthi Thread
--------------

Couple of guys walk into the room where Aarthi is kept. There is a safe in one corner and they walk towards the safe. One of them remarks that if released can she go out of this place. The other person replies, the drug effect has literally crippled her. The first person says to him that nandhan is dead and hands over nandhan's olai suvadi (naadi reading) and asks him to reach this to the right place. The second person receives it and opens the safe to keep it. Aarthi sees that there are already a couple of naadis in the safe. After keeping it, the first person says that Thillai Rajan(Aarthi's father) came to Vaidheeswaran koil to read the naadi and he was too worried to pose any threat. Aarthi is shocked and looks helpless, her face pale and white lesions in her lips as signs of poisoning.

End of episode 33.
From: ts on Tue Feb 22 5:05:21 2005. [Full View]

Thanks a lot Jaiganes for the wonderful updates.
From: jaiganes on Tue Feb 22 5:45:16 2005. [Full View]

You are welcome!!
takes a virtual bow
From: ts on Thu Feb 24 6:55:48 2005. [Full View]

Mani goes to Vaidheeswaran Koil and enquires about the vasishta nAdi. The guy there is amazed by the reference but Poosaimuthu Josiyar tells them that this is not unusual as it is like one doctor referring to another. Mani shows them the finger print and the josiyar tells him that Arthi's dad had already come there and that he had read the nadi to him. Mani asks him if he can have the nadi but the guy refuses saying that they wouldnt give away vasishta nadi.

Somu is exhausted and walks around the village. He sees an STD booth and calls the editor. He tells him that he is exhausted and that the person he was supposed to stay with has gone out of town. The editor asks him to keep calm when the call snaps. Editor asks his men to trace Somu and take him to a safer place. Somu sees a house with a water pot and has some water from there. He sees that there is a Tolet board outside and enquires within. The house is that of a village Sidda doctor who thinks somu has come for treatment. He shows a few olaichuadis to Somu and tells him that they are ancient medicine recipes which he follows. Somu introduces him as Ramesh and tells him that he had come there to do some research on herbs and asks him if he can stay there. The villager takes him upstairs and shows a room which Somu rents.

Akash visits Mani and aks him if he had any success. Mani tells him all about Vaidheeswaran koil trip. Akash asks him as to why they wouldnt give the chuvadis.Mani tells him that Vasishta Nadi talks about death and grave circmstances and probably thats why no one would dare go to get it read. Akash asks him which type of Nadi is the one his Granny has and mani tells him that it was an Agastiyar Nadi, Agastiyar is an "allrounder" but specializes in Medicine and cure.

Padma and Chaya are at a photo lab. Padma asks for some rolls to be developed when the guy asks them to come back in half hour. They decide to go for a coffee and ride to a restaurant. Padma asks Chaya to go in and tells her that he has to call his mum and will join her in a few minutes. When Chaya tries to go inside,she sees the Tea Samiyar there. This samiyar asks her to buy some tea for him. She asks him to move away and goes inside. The samiyar asks her if her name was chaya - chay is tea.. and tells her of 16 flowers.... she is puzzled.....
...thodarum....

Dont know if anyone noticed. When Padma and Chaya are riding near the hotel, there was a bike a bit far off and the guy who was riding looked like he was wearing a mask... dont know if this has any significance but never know.....
From: Uma on Sat Feb 26 3:39:11 2005. [Full View]

Thanks for the updates. I didn't notice the bike man. Who is he?
From: gmax2k5 on Sat Feb 26 11:41:51 2005. [Full View]

yea, ts. my mom pointed out something when padma, and chaaya are coming to the hotel. but i forgot to look at it. what mask was he wearing? anyways, by now, i think AIDS, and medicine is a word that comes up in every episode. so i believe it has something to do with AIDS, and the cure for it from the nadijoshiyam, still dont know what the murders are for, but i hope we will get more clues soon. And, GOD's daughter Thulasi was a doctor who was also probably trying to find a cure for this disease. I am pretty sure, Thulasi has something to do with all these murders. I like Padma's acting in this episode, a casual acting. But there are a lot of new characters being introduced like chaaya, she might have some significance. Somu's character is getting boring, but the people he meets are getting interesting. like all the previous posters, i hope this serial doesn't keep extending like the other mega serials on suntv, but at the same time i hope it turns out to be a surprising ending, the final murderer and motives would be something that we would have never guessed. Has anyone else seen Naga's comedy serial Vellaku Vichu Veedu on Suntv on Sundays, it is not even moderately funny. I dont know why he ventured into comedy serials, he should stick to mystery serials, he is a master at it. anyways, please post ur opinions, and i will check back later.
From: goldenjothy on Tue Mar 1 17:14:36 2005. [Full View]

How come no more updates........ Please post....
From: jaiganes on Tue Mar 1 23:51:32 2005. [Full View]

goldenjothy wrote:

Quote:

How come no more updates........ Please post....

It is a weekly serial, so the updates also would be on a weekly basis. Expect the next update by tonight (IST) or tomorrow morning by ts.
From: Cinefan on Wed Mar 2 7:28:23 2005. [Full View]

[quote="gmax2k5"].Has anyone else seen Naga's comedy serial Vellaku Vichu Veedu on Suntv on Sundays, it is not even moderately funny. I dont know why he ventured into comedy serials, he should stick to mystery serials, he is a master at it. quote]

At what time is it telecast?I remember Naga had made a comedy serial 'Ramani Vs Ramani'with Ramji&Vasuki long back,that was good.But I agree that his forte is mystery.
From: ts on Thu Mar 3 5:51:50 2005. [Full View]

Padma goes to an STD booth. The person making a call comes out and tells him that he has to make another call and asks him to wait. This is Abhiami's dad, who had been on a kshetra tour. He takes Akash's card out of his wallet and tries to read the number. Padma sees this and is curious. Abhirami's dad calls Akash's mobile and talks to them. Akash tells him that he is at Chidambaram and gives the phone to Abhirami. Abhirami enquires about him and tells him that she is well and happy. She hands over the phone to the granny. The granny asks him as to when he is coming home. He thanks granny for helping him out and tells her that its been a long time since he saw his daughter cheerful.

When he leaves, Padma goes inside to call, presses the re-dial button and notes down AKash's number. When he comes back to the restaurant, Chaya tells him of the Tea Samiyar. Padma tells her that there are many loonies around and giggles. He shows her Akash's number and she is surprised. They both go to the photo lab where his photos are ready. He collects them and looks into a few. There is one ophoto of Akash that he took. The guy at the lab seems fishy. He is very rigid and seems like is up to something. When padma leaves, he goes inside and prints another copy of Akash's photo and hands it over to somebody - a guy with a big bangle in his hand(face not shown). This guy takes Akash's photo and leaves. The tea samiyar is outside, being chased by a devotee shouts "You think you got Akash? think again... its him who actually got you...."

At YGM's house, YGM is waiting for beggars to arrive. He sees a few of them coming and takes them inside the house. He tells his wife that they are sapta rishis and that they have to treat them well. His wife is irked by his behaviour but Somu's mum asks her to be patient. YGM counts them and there are six of them. He was expecting seven. He asks Somu's dad to take care of them and goes out to lookout for the seventh when the tea samiyar makes his appearance there. He comes inside and asks for soem tea. YGM tells him that he has lunch ready and he accepts it. They all sit around the hall and YGM and his wife serve lunch. Everyone but the samiyar eat and YGM asks him to have some. He eats a bit and scatters the rest around. YGM's wife gets miffed and tells him that she didnt cook it to be thrown away like that. The tea samiyar gets up and ridicules her and asks YGM to go to Chidambaram. YGM gives him vethalai pakku with Coconut and the samiyar tells him... "open it and you will see Akasam" and leaves.

YGM and his wife clean up the place and when they clean up the samiyar's plate (plantain leaf), they see a photo of Chidambara Natarajar and Sivakami there....thodarum...
From: Cinefan on Thu Mar 3 6:25:14 2005. [Full View]

Looks like Akash is the next target for the killers but if the 'Tea'Samiyar's prediction is anything to go by,he might prove to be their waterloo.
From: ts on Thu Mar 3 6:34:09 2005. [Full View]

There was another thread last night which i missed.

A policemen reports back to the SP and tells him that he was unable to find Nandan's olaichuvadi anywhere. He tells the SP that they had found one finger print that was common everywhere. It is that of Somu. SP tells him that it was enough to get a warrant against Somu. He asks the policemen to arrange a meeting with some Nadi josiyars and asks him to monitor if there is anything fishy happening around the Nadi josiyars.
From: gmax2k5 on Thu Mar 3 20:44:38 2005. [Full View]

hey ts, thanks for the summary again. yesterday's episode was definitely exciting. the tea samiyar mentioned that akash was the chidambara ragasiyam or something, and yeah, also that akash is hard to catch. but definitely, i hope, from here on, the show is going to go at fast pace, and hopefully answer some questions. cinefan, villaku viche veedu is on sundays, at 10:00 US eastern time, and i think 8:30 indian time. yeah, ramani vs. ramani used to be good, but this serial i tell you, i watch the serial, but i dont laugh much, dont know why, its not funny. but my favorite serials now are Chidambara ragasiyam, and Selvi. Selvi is funny, and also entertaining for now, because it has just started, i hope it doesn't turn into the other dramas, with women crying all the time. But yeah, back to Chidambara Ragasiyam, who do you guys think came to the photo lab, and took a copy of Akash's picture? have to look out for people wearing that bracelet from now on. i have seen many people wearing that bracelet in INdia, what is it called, is it some religious bracelet? please leave ur opinions, hope to see more people get involved in this forum.
From: Badri on Thu Mar 3 20:51:28 2005. [Full View]

How come no one discusses Sivamayam? Surya started a thread, and I made a post...but everyone is busy with Chidambara Rahasyam....

Any philanthrophists with time on their hands to spare can please give us an update on what is happening in the thodar....

http://www.forumhub.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?p=74714
From: Sadhana on Fri Mar 4 0:27:05 2005. [Full View]

Hey gmax2k5...

I must say my favourite serials are Chithampara Ragasiyam and Selvi as well. They are both somewhat different from the everyday serials that are out there.

Just like the others on this thread, at first I felt that Thulasi has a big part in all these murders. But having followed Ruthra Veenai, I don't think Naga would make the murderer so obvious to everyone. What I think is that Thulasi might also be fearing for her life and feel that her life is in danger, thus putting up an act like this? I think in one episode she mentioned something about how there is cure for AIDS... my prediction is that maybe she is still researching and don't want anyone to get to her.

Oh well... so many questions but not so many answers so far... I don't get to watch these episodes on a weekly basis as I have this channel in Canada, so thank you so much TS for providing such a wonderful summary each week.
From: gmax2k5 on Mon Mar 7 22:33:08 2005. [Full View]

new serial by Naga comes on every Sundays at 8:30pm INdian time, and 10:00pm Eastern US time. This serial replaces the comedy serial by Naga, which basically sucked. The new serial is another mystery series like chidambara ragasiyam, its called Adhu Mathrum Ragasiyam meaning "Especially that is a secret". wow, the first episode kinda lays the main thesis of hte story, a temple in a village surrounding, and people only worship the door inside the temple, and behind the door is the secret. cant wait for someone to start a thread on this serial, if not, i will start one soon, please join this thread, and watch this serial, another great mystery series by Naga. wow, now, my favorite serials are Chidambara Ragasiyam, Selvi, and this Adhu Mathrum Ragasiyam. please leave ur comments. thank you.
From: ts on Thu Mar 10 5:29:55 2005. [Full View]

Anbarasu (nadi Josiyar) is with a client. His assistant comes and tells him that he was unable to find the olaichuvadi of the client. Anbarasu forces him inside and takes a kattu in random and brings it out. He tells them that the assistant doesn�t know which one to bring and starts to read from it. Just then a guy, dressed in Orange Shirt and Jeans, comes to his house. This guy is wearing a bangle � Shirt colour and bangle same as we saw last week at the photo lab. Anbarasu asks him to wait and continues to read. He then asks the client to do some pariharam for 48 days, which would cost some 20k, He tells them that he can personally do it on their behalf and that would cost 10k. The client agrees and tells him that he will get him the money the next day and leaves. Meanwhile, Anbarasu�s little daughter asks for the guy�s keys and he gives it to her. Anbarasu asks the guy in the orange shirt if he can read his olai. The guy asks Anbarasu how he is gonna get another 10 k ready. Anbarasu is puzzled and asks him as to whats he up to. The guy tells him that he is Manoharan�s brother and had come to collect the money Anbarasu owes Manoharan� and that 10k would be ready by next day and he owes 10k more. Anbarasu is furious and tells him that he had already paid the loan. The guy gets up and slaps Anbarasu and tells him that he is a fraud josiyar and that needs the money in two days�He also tells that the police are after him for 9 crimes and he wouldn�t mind committing another one�..
When he leaves, Anbarasu�s wife comes in crying and curses him for taking the loan. He asks him to go to her brother Mani (from Chidambaram � probably the one opposite Akash�s house) and get some help. Anbarasu refuses and tells her that he will go to his guru instead.

At Chidambaram, a guy in ragas, roams around Akash�s house. He comes in front of the house, prostrates and knocks the door. Akash and Abhirami get the door and see him. The guy seems to be dumb and asks for food. Granny sees him and goes inside to bring him some food. Granny gets some rice and gives it to the guy who takes it and sits in the Thinnai. When granny goes inside, Abhirami asks Akash to hide. Granny calls out for her but she doesn�t respond. Granny goes out to look for her when she sneaks into the kitchen and opens the rice box and takes the Olaichuvadi out. She tells Akash that she had a suspiction that it could be here and has been proved right. She quickly hides it inside again before the granny returns.

Akash is surprised to see this and come soutside. There, he sees the dumb man drawing a tree with a piece of chalk. He writes �Sthala vriksham� underneath and Akash asks him as to what it means. There are totally 16 leaves in the tree, 9 of them on the right side. The guy counts the number of leaves and writes 16. He then circles the leaves on the right side and writes 9. He then lies down the Thinnai and puts rice on his mouth � as if one would do to a dead person (vAikkarisi).

Somu calls the editor from his mobile and tells him of his whereabouts. The editor tells him that the police are about to issue a warrant on him and asks him to be careful. While he is talking on the phone, Anbarasu Arrives there. It seems that the Vaiththiyar is his guru. He sees Somu and goes inside. Somu doesn�t notice him. The vaidhiyar welcomes him and enquires about his family and about Mani. Anbarasu tells him of his tight corner and asks for help. The vaidhiyar tells him that he doesn�t have that much money and asks him to asks Manoharan. Anbarasu tells him that Manoharans had been murdered. He then asks about Somu and the vaidhiyar tells him that he is Ramesh, who is doing a research on herbs. Anbarasu tells the vaidhiyar that it is not ramesh but he is Somu, a reporter from Neithal magazine�..thodarum�
From: Sadhana on Thu Mar 10 10:47:22 2005. [Full View]

Hey TS... thanks so much for an excellent review (or more like a preview for me ) on this week's episode.
From: gmax2k5 on Thu Mar 10 14:36:32 2005. [Full View]

ts, good synopsis of yesterday's episode. wow, i just realized, that the guy in rags, lying down, and pouring rice into his mouth symbolized some kind of danger, or death to akash, i think. then, when i was watching selvi, somu comes in that show too, he was introduced. he is getting more roles in other serials too. i think his name is Krishna,i have seen him many times on his bike in Adyar, chennai. Other than that, have u guys started watchin adhu mathrum ragasiyam? its another naga, mystery serial.

From: Sadhana on Fri Mar 11 0:50:42 2005.

gmax2k5 wrote:

ts, good synopsis of yesterday's episode. wow, i just realized, that the guy in rags, lying down, and pouring rice into his mouth symbolized some kind of danger, or death to akash, i think. then, when i was watching selvi, somu comes in that show too, he was introduced. he is getting more roles in other serials too. i think his name is Krishna,i have seen him many times on his bike in Adyar, chennai. Other than that, have u guys started watchin adhu mathrum ragasiyam? its another naga, mystery serial.

I think what the guy was trying to do was to show that nine people have been murdered... symbolizing the deaths up to that point... so from the looks of it there are still seven more to go? Since that drawing had 16 leaves? Oh I don't know.. but it's just too many murders already and if I have to face seven more, I am going to go berserk...

I haven't started watching that other serial yet as we haven't got the tape here in Canada yet... but I can't wait though...

From: ts on Fri Mar 11 5:11:45 2005. [Full View]

Nice point Sadhana. I think you are right. 9 Murders already and he is warning of 7 more probably on the other side of the country....Akash could be the sthala vriksham that they are trying to get to by terminating all the "leaves".
From: gmax2k5 on Sat Mar 12 19:18:48 2005. [Full View]

yea, very good point Sadhana. didn't think of it that way. but ts, i didn't understand what you said, is akash supposed to be the final target or something? but i hope they get Somu's ola choodi soon, and see what is in it, and how is he linked to all these murders. heh, i need some answers fast, too much suspence, and new characters introduced.
From: Sadhana on Sun Mar 13 17:33:55 2005. [Full View]

Apparently, "sthala vriksham" means "temple tree"? So maybe in order to achieve/acquire something you must sacrifice 16 people? Meh... who knows... but the suspence is sure killing me...
From: ts on Thu Mar 17 5:49:21 2005. [Full View]

Anbarasu tells the vaidhiyar that Somu is a fugitive on the run and asks him to talk to Somu carefully and chase him out of the house else he will have to face the police. He asks the vaidhiyar for money and gets 3k from him and leaves. Vaidhiyar goes upstairs and confronts Somu and asks for his real identity. Somu asks him as to hoiw he knew and the vaidhiyar tells of Anbarasu. Somu runs outside to see Anbarasu, who is on his way to the bus stop. Somu sees a bus and runs towards it when he collides with a cyclist and passes out, attracting a crowd. A local old man rescues Somu by manipulating his pressure points (varma). He tells Somu that he got hurt in his varma stanams and hence ad passed out. He introduces himself as Seethapathy, living nearby and asks about Somu. Somu tells him that he is living at the Vaidhiyar's house and Seethapathy takes him there.

The vaidhyar accuses somu of lying to him and asks him to leave. Somu tells them that he is innocent but the vaidhiyar doesnt believe in him. Seethapathy asks somu to come with him to his house and tells them that he believes in Somu and asks the vaidhiyar to redirect the police to his house, should they come for Somu. He asks somu not to fear police as he had not committed the murders.

Chaya calls Akash's mobile and ABhirami picks the phonel. She finds Akash and gives him the phone. Chaya asks him why he was lying of being Somu's friend and if he has anything to do with the Nadi Josiyam murders. Akash is shocked and tries to talk to her when she hangs up. Akash tries the number she called from but she disconnects (its a public phone).

Somu's mum and dad are in the car when his dad asks his mum if they can seek advice from a nadi josiyar for Somu. His mum doesnt agree to it. They decide to go to the farm and meet Somu.

Anbarasu is back home and is not happy that he hadnt got the money. He asks his wife to talk to Mani and asks for money. Anbarasu's assistant comes by and tells him that a policeman had come to visit him and told him that the SP wanted to meet Anbarasu. Anbarasu is frightened and the assistant tells him that it was something about Nadi josiyam that the SP wanted to know.

Akash and Abirami are getting ready to go to the temple when Mani sees them. He asks Akash to come to his house and gives him a photo of Amritakateswarar of Thirukkadayur. He asks Akash to tout Vaidheeswaran koil, Tiruvarur and Tirukkadaiyur when his phone rings. It is Anbarasu's wife. She asks him if he can arrange for 15K as Anbarasu is in dire straits. While she is talking, the Tea samiyar listens to her conversation and imitates her with his "kottankuchi" (coconut shell) in his ear. Mani tells her that he will try to do something. He hangs up the phone and sees the beggar (one who drew pictures in the thinnai) sitting in a chair in his house. He chases the beggar away when Akash asks him if he has some money problems. Mani tells him about his sister and Anbarasu and the problems. He tells them that Anbarasu is not genuine josiyar and hence money doesnt stay with him. Akash asks about this an Mani tells him that Anbarasu and how he "makes" duplicate Olaichvadis for people when he cannot find a matching one. Akash tells mani that he will give him the 15K and in return he wants a favour. He tells him that he will take a photograph of the olaichvadis that his granny has,for Anbarasu to get a replica ready. he can then take the original out and replace it with the replica...granny is happy that she has it and they can read from the original. Mani hesitates but succumbs to pressure.

The camera zooms out and shows Mani's sign board which reads... "Agastiyar nadi jothida nilayam" and lists all types of Nadi josiyams that Mani gives consultation on, starting from Agastiyar.....blah blah blah... the Beggar, adds "Anbarasu" to the list and chuckles....thodarum...
From: aanaa on Thu Mar 17 12:43:15 2005. [Full View]

Thank u 'ts" for the wonderful update

once again thanks for ur time 2

From: manasu on Fri Mar 18 5:13:45 2005.

[quote="ts"]quote

]"the Tea samiyar listens to her conversation and imitates her with his "kottankuchi" (coconut shell) in his ear. Mani tells her that he will try to do something. He hangs up the phone and sees the beggar (one who drew pictures in the thinnai) sitting in a chair in his house."

I thing u not notices that tea samiyar not listens to ladies. the guy who sitting in Mani's house in chair keeps his oodu(Vessel)in his ears and Murmurs and tea samiyar says ah! ah!....

From: Sadhana on Sat Mar 19 23:33:39 2005. [Full View]

Thank you so much TS for a thorough update. Can't wait for next week.
From: aanaa on Wed Mar 23 11:57:04 2005. [Full View]

Sadhana wrote:

Thank you so much TS for a thorough update. Can't wait for next week.

next week
already here
From: ts on Thu Mar 24 5:22:20 2005. [Full View]

aanaa wrote:

Sadhana wrote:

Thank you so much TS for a thorough update. Can't wait for next week.

next week
already here

...and the update too...

Seethapathy is meditating in his house and Somu is very restless. Seethapathy asks somu to concentrate but he is petrified that the police would come after him at any time. Seethapathy tells him that he neednt fear as he had nothing to do with the murders but Somu doesnt listen. A local guy brings Somu's things from Isakki's house and asks questions about Somu. Somu is afraid and wants to get away from there. Seethapathy asks him to go to a remote temple in a nearby hill where he will be safe. Somu leaves hastily. Seethapathy asks his daughter to get some food packed for somu. She tells him that she would not tell anyone about Somu and his whereabouts.

Arthi is in the same chair, and a guy is grinding some herbs. ANother guy comes by and delivers him a few more herbs. The guy grinding asks him as to how many more nadi chuvadis do they have to collect and says that the police are very vigilant. The other guy asks him not to be afraid and shows a picure and asks him to collect the details. The first guy asks as to who this is... to which the second guy replies, Arthi knows and shows her the photo... Arthi is frightened to see Akash's photograph.

Seethapathy takes the food to the hill and calls out for Somu. Somu comes out of the hiding and takes the food. They discuss about the murders and Somu tells him that there are no links between the dead. Seethapathy asks him to think laterally to find out a solution and somu tells him that he knows none of them and the only connection between the murders is Nadi josiyam. Seethapathy laughs and asks him to seek for his nadi so that he can find out whats happening. Somu seems to have made up his mind on this.

The police are having a meeting with the josiyars. The SP shows them photos of the dead and asks if any of the josiyars had read the nadi for any of them. Everyone replies negative... but anbarasu is a bit shaky. The SP shows Somu's photo and tells them that he is their main suspect. Anbarasu tells the SP that he saw Somu at Isakki's place. SP sends others out and enquires Anbarasu about isakki and somu. He asks his officers to check it out and turns to Anbarasu and asks him if they can do Anbarasu any favours as he has given them a good lead. Anbarasu tells him of Manoharan's brother who is torturing him. SP taks note of the fact that Anbarasu knew Manoharan and tells him that they will do the needful. When Anbarau leaves, he asks his men to keep watch on him.

Two policemen "raid" Isakki's house and asks him about Somu. He tells them that Somu had gone with Chellappa. They take details about Seethapathy and ask Isakki to be careful.....thodarum...
From: aanaa on Thu Mar 24 10:14:57 2005. [Full View]

[...and the update too...

Chellappa is meditating in
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quote]

Thank u TS for quick update
wonderful
From: aanaa on Thu Mar 24 10:19:48 2005. [Full View]

why Arthi is under torture?

immunated with AIDS virus?
poor girl lost life

Somu was in Sahana - Balachandar's drama - good acting
From: pavalamani pragasam on Wed Mar 30 21:45:18 2005. [Full View]

Malavika is exchanged by Devatharshini to enact the character Tulasi. Couln�t they have avoided changing actors? It sort of breaks the continuity in the viewer�s involvement, jarring to the viewr�s sense of involvement. Devatharshini is an equally talented artist & she does her part well. Still being used to Malavika�s unique rendering of the character it is very disappointing. There was an indescribable fearful expectation whenever Malavika appeared. An eerie sensation crept into the scene. How I miss her!
From: kssaran on Thu Mar 31 5:54:55 2005. [Full View]

aanaa wrote:

why Arthi is under torture?

immunated with AIDS virus?
poor girl lost life

Somu was in Sahana - Balachandar's drama - good acting

I believe she has been taken as a human sample to test out whether the cure for AIDS is working on human or not. At the end hopefully she gets cured with the medicine that are prepared by them. I dont think she has lost her life yet.... Lets wait for the story to be turned
From: ts on Thu Mar 31 6:04:00 2005. [Full View]

Police are at Seethapathy's house, looking for Somu. They ask seethapathy about Somu and he tells them that he had introduced himself as Ramesh and had left the place. When they are about to leave, his daughter asks them as to why they are behind somu. they tell her that he had committed 8 murders. She is frightened ... her dad pacifies hr and tells her that he doesnt believe in that. She tells him that she will take the food to somu as the police might be watching Seethapathy.

Akash is upstairs reading a book. Abhirami comes there. He reads a Bharatiyar Kavidhai (kANi nilam vENdum) to her. Just then his mobile rings and it is Chaya. She asks him about Somu and the killings and as to why he is hiding at Chidambaram. Abhirami gets the phone and asks her to reveal herself and tells her that Akash is not hiding and he can be contacted at his house and gives Chaya directions to get there. Chaya hangs up...

Padma brings Somu's parents to the farm and the editor assures them of Somu's safety. He tells them that the police are after them and hence he cannot give them Somu's whereabouts.

Somu is in the hill temple, bored.. he hears someone playing the violin and goes there. Just then Somu's mobile rings. He hesitates to picl it up. They Guy playing the violin asks somu to ignore him and attend to his call. It is the editor. He enquires about Somu and somu gices him his current position and details of Isakki, Anbarasu and Seethapathy. Editor asks him to be safe. The guy with violin comes there after the call and chats with him. He is in love with Seethapathy's daughter and tells Somu that he can help so that Seethapathy gets a good impression on him. He says he can entertain Somu and starts playing the violin.

Chaya and Padma are at the farm and Chaya had completed her training. The editor Wishes her good luck and asks her about the article on Aids that she was going to do from Cuddalore. She tells him that she is up for it. The editor goes inside to get some paperwork for Padma when Chaya peeps into his phone and notes down Somu's new number.

Night time at Chidambaram, the dumb beggar comes to Akash's house thinnai with a bunch of Herbs (thulasi). Akash gets up and wakes up Abhirami. Both go to the kitchen to take pictures of the Olaichuvadi. Abhirami takes guard and Akash goes inside. Camera flashes and the granny thinks its thunder....thodarum...
From: aanaa on Thu Mar 31 8:30:24 2005. [Full View]

[quote=
"pavalamani pragasam"]Malavika is exchanged by Devatharshini to enact the character Tulasi.
![/quote]

generally why do they change actor/ actoress?

what's the main reason?
appoinment?
salary/ wages?
not corporate?
From: aanaa on Thu Mar 31 8:32:26 2005. [Full View]

[quote="kssaran

. At the end hopefully she gets cured with the medicine that are prepared by them. I dont think she has lost her life yet.... Lets wait for the story to be turned
[/quote]

even her father is doing some sastram
so eventually she will be cured
either by medicine or sastram
From: aanaa on Thu Mar 31 8:38:26 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Police are at Seethapathy's house,
...thodarum...

thank for the prompt update

do u think this violin guy also get killed

wherever Somu there is a murder....
From: kssaran on Thu Mar 31 21:21:14 2005. [Full View]

aanaa wrote:

[quote=
"pavalamani pragasam"]Malavika is exchanged by Devatharshini to enact the character Tulasi.
!

generally why do they change actor/ actoress?

what's the main reason?
appoinment?
salary/ wages?
not corporate?[/quote]

Logic is very simple... Its matter of getting their call sheet filled promptly. When the actor/actress gets too busy with other serials directors tend to change the character wid someone else. May be Malavika is too busy wid other serials like Raja rajeswarai....r so...

From: kssaran on Thu Mar 31 21:28:32 2005.

aanaa wrote:

[quote="kssaran

. At the end hopefully she gets cured with the medicine that are prepared by them. I dont think she has lost her life yet.... Lets wait for the story to be turned

even her father is doing some sastram
so eventually she will be cured
either by medicine or sastram[/quote]

Actually sastram can work out to some extent, at the same time i strongly believe that the group, who kidnapped her is in the process of releasing medicine for AIDS. Remember Tulasi was saying (wen she went to a hospital and was with one patient ) AIDS can be cured appa...like that to her father... so something goin on for a positive test result....

Wen we talk abt pariharam, another onething thing that made me to get goose pimple was that when they called those beggers to home and gave feasting to them. At the end he saw the picture of Chidambara Natarajar and Sivakami...

From: aanaa on Fri Apr 1 10:26:44 2005. [Full View]

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......
At the end he saw the picture of Chidambara Natarajar and Sivakami...[/quote]

U wrote
"Actually sastram can work out to some extent"

then u also add

"he saw the picture of Chidambara Natarajar and Sivakami."

what does it mean?
confused!!
From: aanaa on Tue Apr 5 11:05:30 2005. [Full View]

no body here to update !!!
From: ts on Thu Apr 7 4:19:41 2005. [Full View]

Archana is upset that her Arangetram is not happening. Her mum comforts her and tells her that she will have it during the summer vacation. YGM gets ready to leave home for Chidambaram as per directions from the "Tea" samiyar and his wife confronts him. She blocks his way and asks him to stay and sits behind the door. The door bell goes off and it is a doctor from his nursing home. Seems two other doctors have resigned. YGM's wife breaks down and asks him to stay.

Mahadevan (violinist) and Somu are chatting and Mahadevan offers to get Somu's phone charged. Somu tells him that the charger is at Isakki's place and he will go there to get it. Mahadevan tell shim that it is not a good idea to go there at this time but Somu proceeds. On his way, he sees Seethapathy's daughter. bringing him food. He tells her that he will be back in an hour. At Isakki's house, Isakki is grinding soem herbs when he sees someone. He tells the man that the police is after him and asks him to go away. The man has a syringe in his hand. Isakki is confronted and the needle is inserted into his throat. The man takes Isakki's finger print. Somu is at the door and calls out for Isakki. The man with the syringe, hides inside the house. Somu comes in and sees isakki at the floor, fighting with the poison... and he sees isakki's finger doused with ink. Somu is petrified and runs out of the house straight into Seethapathy's.

Seethapathy is concentrating on a black spot in the wall. Somu runs in and sits in the corner. Seethapathy tries to comfort him but Somu is far from being normal. Seethapathy asks him to concentrate on the black spot and get his senses under control. Somu tries to do it but sees a thumb impression instead in the wall. Seethapathy tells him that it was his thumb impression which he is concentrating on. Just then seethapathy's daughter arrives and scolds SOmu for not coming back to the temple as promised. Seethapathy asks her to cook some dinner for them. While they are having dinner, Seethapathy tells him that since no one saw Somu going to Isakki's, let him maintain that he never went there and he better go to the police to make things right. Somu breaks down once again and Seethapathy tries to control him....suddenly he stops.... Somu suspects something and gets up to see Seethapathy stunned... with foam coming out of his mouth. Somu gets the shock of his life and gets ready to run. Seethapathy's daughter comes there with some more food and sees her dad. She screams and calls out for help, blaming Somu of killing her dad... Somu runs outside...she tries to chase him and calls for more help...meanwhile, a man walks into the room and takes the finger print of Seethapathy from the paper that is fixed in the wall (the one that he is meditating on)... thodarum...
From: jaiganes on Thu Apr 7 4:45:56 2005. [Full View]

sheez! This is getting foamier and frothier , i meant bloodier and bloodier. how many murders more to go? I am getting petrified...
From: ts on Thu Apr 7 5:46:03 2005. [Full View]

jaiganes wrote:

sheez! This is getting foamier and frothier , i meant bloodier and bloodier. how many murders more to go? I am getting petrified...

6 more to go according to the prophecy (of the Dumb beggar)
From: aanaa on Thu Apr 7 8:16:07 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Archana is upset that her Arangetram is not happening.

thodarum...

Thank you TS for updating the serial and concern on viewers
From: aanaa on Thu Apr 7 8:21:14 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

6 more to go according to the prophecy (of the Dumb beggar)

6 more

too bad

whatever motives behind
could have stopped with 1 or 2 murders.

killing human being is untolerable for any reaon
From: aanaa on Thu Apr 7 8:21:37 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

6 more to go according to the prophecy (of the Dumb beggar)

6 more

too bad

whatever motives behind
could have stopped with 1 or 2 murders.

killing human being is untolerable for any reaon
From: gmax2k5 on Thu Apr 7 10:05:25 2005. [Full View]

yeah, i liked yesterday's episode. two people died in the same episode. I just feel so sorry for somu, why cant he just control himself, and stay in one place, but i know its hard. yeah, somehow the killer knows that somu is coming to the place, and kills before he just enters. But I was shocked when seethapathy died, i think they somehow kill the victim, in seethapathy's case, there must have been something in his Dosa, that he was eating. wow, what i dont understand is, the killer was inside the house the entire time hiding, and when seethapathy's daughter goes outside shouting and calling for help chasing somu, he just comes up, and takes the fingerprint of the wall. I think there is a long way to go for this serial, 6 more deaths according to the prophecy, but somu hasn't yet met the guy from america staying at his grandmother's house. So cant wait for the plot to get better.
From: aanaa on Fri Apr 8 7:41:53 2005. [Full View]

gmax2k5 wrote:

yeah, i liked yesterday's episode.

....

So cant wait for the plot to get better.

still don't know
what message Director wants to convey to the public
by murdering so many people???

From: Cinefan on Fri Apr 8 8:03:51 2005.

aanaa wrote:

gmax2k5 wrote:

yeah, i liked yesterday's episode.

....

So cant wait for the plot to get better.

still don't know
what message Director wants to convey to the public
by murdering so many people???

Messages?????????Why do you expect messages from a thriller?

From: Surya on Fri Apr 8 15:00:59 2005. [Full View]

The message is clearly trying to advertise Naadi Joshiyam. Which is good. I a firm believer, all the killing just makes it a lot more intersting.

I've got a hunch:
I think that it's the Mahadevan guy. The secret lover of the daughter, who's doing everything. Because hewas the one who knew that Somu was going to the house to get the charger, he was the one who had acess to the food through the daughter. Now is the daughter a part of this? I don't know. Seems unlikely. But again, It's Naga.

Regards. 8)
From: gmax2k5 on Sat Apr 9 14:13:42 2005. [Full View]

yeah, i have a doubt on Mahadevan too, but I doubt it would be that easy. He knew somu was going, but he was with seethapathy's daughter, and I am sure, there are many people who are committing all these murders, not one person. but they are all working under one person's orders. I am very sure, the guy who killed isaki, and the person who killed seethapathy are different by just looking at their body, one was pretty huge, the other guy was thin. I just want one of them to get caught instead of Somu always being a suspect, if they caught one of the murderers, then it would start to get more interesting. yeah, there is no need for some message, or some emotions to give us. This is an interesting mystery serial, there is something behind all these killings, and all these collecting nadis, probably something to do with the cure of AIDS.
From: aanaa on Sat Apr 9 20:10:24 2005. [Full View]

[quote="

Messages?????????Why do you expect messages from a thriller?[/quote]

director - final destination -
always a simple message to audience
From: CR001 on Sun Apr 10 22:01:07 2005. [Full View]

I wish they would show all the 6 murders in the same episode!!!!this way we will get to the meat of the matter ASAP(-:Frankly I am getting quite tired of the murders.......I feel this serial like the other ones on sun TV right now is dragging as well....
Comments
CR001

From: ts on Mon Apr 11 4:46:38 2005.

Surya wrote:

I've got a hunch:
I think that it's the Mahadevan guy. The secret lover of the daughter, who's doing everything. Because hewas the one who knew that Somu was going to the house to get the charger, he was the one who had acess to the food through the daughter. Now is the daughter a part of this? I don't know. Seems unlikely. But again, It's Naga. Wink

Wink

Buw how would you explain the other murders

Question

I suspect Thulasi or the Editor... Remember, Somu told him about Isakki and Seethapathy... Chaya and Padma may have a role to play in this...

From: aanaa on Mon Apr 11 9:05:15 2005. [Full View]

[quote="ts

Buw how would you explain the other murders
I suspect Thulasi or the Editor... Remember, Somu told him about Isakki and Seethapathy... Chaya and Padma may have a role to play in this...[/quote]

don't u suspect the photographer who was always with Somu

From: ts on Mon Apr 11 9:45:08 2005.

aanaa wrote:

[quote="ts

Buw how would you explain the other murders Question

Question

I suspect Thulasi or the Editor... Remember, Somu told him about Isakki and Seethapathy... Chaya and Padma may have a role to play in this...
don't u suspect the photographer who was always with Somu

From: aanaa on Tue Apr 12 10:47:01 2005. [Full View]

need this week update plz

thanks in advance
From: ts on Thu Apr 14 4:04:30 2005. [Full View]

YGM (Thillai Rajan) sneaks out of the house to go to Chidambaram. His wife notices it in the last minute and cannot stop him.

The AC is furious at his deputies that they couldnt stop the double murders. While he is toasting them, Sivakami comes there to enquire about her daughter Arthi. The AC asks hr a few questions about Arthi and Somu and asks her if it could be Somu who kidnapped her. She tells him that Somu and Arthi are good friends. She asks him if he ha any news about Arthi and he tells her that they found the abandoned car near Singaperumal koil. She understands tha tthe police are more concerned in catching Somu than dealing with her case and leaves the place.

Anbarasu is busy in his house making the fake olaichuvadis. He asks his assistant to mark in the olaichuvadis and uses copper Sulphate and kerosene to make the olaichuvadis look "aged". They lay the chuvadis to dry and leave the room. His daughter comes and picks up one of them.

At chidambaram, Akash is reading some book and Abhirami encourages him to read more so that he is well versed and can read the "vattezhuthu" from the original chuvadi. Just then the dumb beggar calls him from outside the window. Akash goes outside and the beggar dances like nataraja and pulls Akash into the street. YGM is outside and the beggar dances around him. Akash identifies him and brings him into his house and introduces him to the granny. YGM is amazed at the wood work in the house . Granny tells him that its her father-in-law's house who was fond of these things. Akash enquires about Arthi and he tells him that it was for her that he has come to chidambaram. Granny asks him to freshen up and get ready for dinner and aks Abhiami to take him to the temple afterwards.

Outside the house, the beggar has drawn the picture of Nataraja with "thillai" written around it. The picture has a leaf as the head and he pretends to eat from the picture...

Archana is alone at home and is scared that her mum hadnt come back. She calls the AC and asks him about her mother. She tells him that she is scared as her mum hadnt come back and it is very late at night. The AC asks her to keep calm and tells her that he will help. He asks a few policemen to go to her house and asks his deputies to go with him. He tells them that he has a rough idea as to where Sivakami might be ... asking them to proceed towards Singaperumal koil...thodarum...
From: aanaa on Thu Apr 14 7:05:01 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

YGM (Thillai Rajan) sneaks out of the house to go to Chidambaram. His wife notices it in the last minute and cannot stop him.

...thodarum...

thank u for the detailed update "TS"
From: Sadhana on Fri Apr 15 12:17:14 2005. [Full View]

Thank you TS for the update!
As usual it's very detailed and to the point.

I wonder what the picture signifies. From what you have defined it seems like YGM alias Thillai Rajan is an important figure in all this mystery. Ah the mystery... can't wait to see some light at the end of this tunnel

Thanks again!

From: aanaa on Mon Apr 18 13:20:12 2005.

Sadhana wrote:

Thank you TS for the update!
As usual it's very detailed and to the point.

I wonder what the picture signifies. From what you have defined it seems like YGM alias Thillai Rajan is an important figure in all this mystery. Ah the mystery... can't wait to see some light at the end of this tunnel Razz

Razz

do u thing yg's wife also got killed

From: gmax2k5 on Thu Apr 21 17:05:51 2005. [Full View]

TS, where is your summary. Yesterday was a great episode, we got to see some many unexpected things, and only now its getting more interesting. all of you, who are waiting for TS update, dont miss this episode.

From: aanaa on Thu Apr 21 17:45:02 2005.

gmax2k5 wrote:

TS,

where is your summary. Yesterday was a great episode, we got to see some many unexpected things, and only now its getting more interesting. all of you, who are waiting for TS update, dont miss this episode.

can u update the episode?

From: ts on Fri Apr 22 4:04:09 2005. [Full View]

One update coming up .....
From: ts on Fri Apr 22 4:18:58 2005. [Full View]

The police are looking for Sivakami around Singaperumal Koil. They spot her in the neibourhood. She is enquiring about Arthi to the locals. The AC asks her to go home and tells her that they will find Arthi. He tells her that Archana is alone at home and is scared and pleads her to go home. Meanwhile, they see someone walking in the street, pushing his bicycle. A policeman stops him and asks him as to what he is up to. The man tells them that he was getting food for someone when his cycle tyre got punctured. They let him go and suddenly the AC suspects something and pulls him up. He tells him that it is well over midnight and asks him as to who was he taking the food to? They guy fumbles and the policemen enquire in "proper" manner when he tells them that he usually gets food to someone waiting outside a disused school nearby. He gets paid well to do it and thats all he knows. The police suspect something and rush to that area.

At the school, the men who have arthi as prisoner are in a hurry, vacating the premises. They collect all their belongings and one of them carries arthi and they run outside just before the police could get there. THe AC does a thorough search of the school and finds out that it was occupied until a few minutes ago. They find Arthi's slippers there and a few olaichuvadis. They also find Akash's photo there and the AC identifies him.

At chidambaram, YGM is leaving town. Akash offers to go with him to Vaidheeswaran Koil but the granny diverts him and stops him from doing so. The beggar tries to blocks YGM's way but he proceeds. While outside, Mani spots them and asks Akash about YGM and akss him to come to seek his nadi josiyam. YGM refuses and tells him that he is off to see Poosaimuthu at Vaidheeswaran Koil. The beggar keeps dancing "ananda Nardhanam" like Lord siva.

Arthi is in a hospital bed and a lady doctor checks her condition. She prescribes some herbs as medication. Arthi wakes up and asks her as to where she is and the doctor reveals her identity. It is YGM's junior at his clinic who YGM trusts very much.

The AC discusses about Somu's nadi josiyam with his deputy, who has sought 6 different versions from various josiyars. He tells the AC that none of them match but they were unable to find Somu's Agastiyar Nadi. He tells the AC that the chuvadis they found at the school were Agastiyar Nadis... The AC suspects something fishy about Agastiyar Nadi...thodarum...
From: Sadhana on Fri Apr 22 14:15:16 2005. [Full View]

Thanks again TS for the update... much appreciated
From: aanaa on Sat Apr 23 9:38:55 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

T
he police are looking for Sivakami around Singaperumal Koil.
...thodarum...

thank u for the update
spending ur valuable time to share with us
From: aanaa on Sat Apr 23 9:39:49 2005. [Full View]

[quote="Sadhana"]
Thanks again TS for the update...

much appreciated
/quote]

) ???
From: SSathiya on Sat Apr 23 19:21:27 2005. [Full View]

Hi everyone,

I have a questions about the olai's that Akash has at his house. Mani told Akash that it belongs to a guy named Somu..but then akash was reading it to Abirami and it mentions the person marrying a widow, and abirami gets all teared up. But its told that they belong to Somu..so why is abi acting like it belongs to Akash?

Im confused....

From: ts on Mon Apr 25 4:46:16 2005.

SSathiya wrote:

Hi everyone,

I have a questions about the olai's that Akash has at his house. Mani told Akash that it belongs to a guy named Somu..but then akash was reading it to Abirami and it mentions the person marrying a widow, and abirami gets all teared up. But its told that they belong to Somu..so why is abi acting like it belongs to Akash?

Im confused.... Rolling Eyes

Rolling Eyes

The chuvadi is Somu's indeed but it also talks of others around him. It has a section for Akash and also for Mani, who is reading it. Thats where mani's interest lies...

From: Cinefan on Mon Apr 25 8:31:33 2005.

SSathiya wrote:

Hi everyone,

I have a questions about the olai's that Akash has at his house. Mani told Akash that it belongs to a guy named Somu..but then akash was reading it to Abirami and it mentions the person marrying a widow, and abirami gets all teared up. But its told that they belong to Somu..so why is abi acting like it belongs to Akash?

Im confused.... Rolling Eyes

Rolling Eyes

In which episode did this happen

Confused

From: SSathiya on Mon Apr 25 19:18:43 2005. [Full View]

i cant saye exactly which episode because we get them in 2 hour tapes in Canada. It was in the second or third tape that this happened. It was after Abirami taught Akash to read and they showed the olais to mani.
From: ts on Thu Apr 28 4:52:35 2005. [Full View]

Akash rushes to Mani's place and Anbarasu is there. Granny asks them as to why Mani's assistant ran away from her. They tell divert her attention and granny goes back home. Mani introduces Anbarasu to Akash. Anbarasu asks Mani's assistant to fetch tea for them and Anbarasu gives him the fake olaichuvadis. Akash appreciates his "work". He tells them that it looks exactly like Somu's chuvadi. Anbarasu asks him as to which Somu he is talking about and asks him if it the Somu from Neithal Magazine. Akash and Mani are surprised and ask Anbarasu as to how he knew about Somu. Anbarasu tells them that SOmu is a serial killer and has killed people for Chuvadis and asks them to be careful. When the Assistant returns, he sees the beggar drawing something in the wall. There he sees a tree and "Thillai Tharum" written under it.

At the farm, the editor is unhappy with his deputy about an article that he published. While he is shouting on the phone, Thulasi brings him some Papaya and asks him to eat them. He tells her not to disturb him while he is on the phone. She gets wild and takes a knife and cuts herself. The editor and servent maid rush to her and tie a cloth bandage in her hand when a stranger arrives there. He asks thulasi if she is still doing such things. He introduces himself as Vishnu, coming from Germany. The editor asks him if he is a subodinate of Thulasi. He tells him that he is her husband... thulasi says ... ex-husband...Editor is shocked...

Akash and Abhirami swap the duplicate olaichuvadis with the original. Abhirami is scared but Akash ignores her and takes it to his bedroom.

Vishnu is feeding Thulasi while he narrates what happened at germany. They were working together when they fell in love and got married. He is from Tamilnadu and his parents died when he was young. He tells the editor that Thulasi one day asked him for divorce and he gave her what she wanted. He asks her why she had to do "it". Thulasi tells him that he wouldnt accept what she "did" if they were married. Thulasi, for her research, had injected Aids virus into herself and is suffering from the disease now. Vishnu tells her that she still loves her and that he was trying to reach her but could not do so and had come to Tamilnadu soon after his research had ended. He asks her to pack her things so that they can go "home". The editor intervenes but vishnu tells him that it is their personal matter and asks him not to interrupt. The editor seems to be happy for them.. specially his daughter...

Akash gives some food to the beggar who is drawing again. This time it is snake in a circular position biting its tail... just like in the story of "halasyam" .. thiru-Ala-Vai... story where Madurai was surrounded by the giant snake....There is "kAlam" written inside...

Akash goes indide and has lunch when ABhirami's dad arrives from Kshetradanam. Granny welcomes him home and asks him to join Akash for lunch. He refuses and tells her that they had to go home as his house had been locked for months now and he needs to clean it. Abhirami goes inside to collect her things. Granny goes inside with her. Akash is about to start eating when Abhirami's dad asks him if he got the chuvadis... Akash fumbles and asks him which ones? He tells Akash if he managed to get his Great Grandfather's olaichuvadis... Akash is stunned.....thodarum
From: aanaa on Thu Apr 28 8:47:00 2005. [Full View]

[quote="ts"
]Akash rushes to Mani's place and Anbarasu is there.

.....thodarum
[/quote]

thank u ts
pls update weekly
i know time is critical but ....
thanks again for ur time
From: svasu_ani on Thu Apr 28 9:26:55 2005. [Full View]

Hi,

Saw chidambara rahasiyam after 3 weeks, was reading the updates here till the time...the updates are good...up to point...Was surprised to see Tulsi character replaced with another female(forgot her name). Earlier it used to be malavika, she was apt for the character....

Anitha
From: Surya on Thu Apr 28 15:28:45 2005. [Full View]

Looking at the plot, it's surpricing to see that Thulsi has Aids. And also, the girl that was kidnapped was injected with the blood of a person who had Aids in an earlier episode............... What to make out of this?
From: Ilavenil on Thu Apr 28 19:12:15 2005. [Full View]

Does anyone know how long this serial would last? I will be getting Sun TV connection in July only. Athukkullae intha serial mudinjidumaa?
From: Surya on Thu Apr 28 19:34:22 2005. [Full View]

Looking at the ways the events are taking place, I don't think that CR will end until December. So ur in good shape!
From: aanaa on Thu Apr 28 20:43:04 2005. [Full View]

Ilavenil wrote:

Does anyone know how long this serial would last? I will be getting Sun TV connection in July only. Athukkullae intha serial mudinjidumaa?

athenna july kannakku?

From: Ilavenil on Thu Apr 28 22:43:11 2005.

aanaa wrote:

Ilavenil wrote:

Does anyone know how long this serial would last? I will be getting Sun TV connection in July only. Athukkullae intha serial mudinjidumaa? Crying or Very sad

Crying or Very sad

athenna july kannakku?

Athu oru periya katha, oru oorilae.... thodarum

Rolling Eyes

From: Surya on Thu Apr 28 22:44:02 2005. [Full View]

INge innoru seriel-a.
From: Ilavenil on Thu Apr 28 22:46:35 2005. [Full View]

Surya wrote:

INge innoru seriel-a.

Intha kathaiaiyum December varikkum izhuththadichchidalamanu yosikiren
From: Surya on Thu Apr 28 22:48:13 2005. [Full View]

Paathunge, chitambara rahasiyam fans ellam unge serialukku maarida porange!
From: aanaa on Fri Apr 29 9:24:09 2005. [Full View]

[quote="Ilavenil
Athu oru periya katha, oru oorilae.... thodarum
[/quote]

athe paddik kathai thaanaa?
ippavellam pala oor onrakinrathu
From: ts on Thu May 5 5:10:27 2005. [Full View]

Akash is stunned when Abhirami asks the question. He tells him that the granny was hiding the olaichuvadis and he has them now and asks him how he knew the details. Abhirami's dad tells him that his guru (Akash's great grand father), in his death bed, had told him that at the dawn of pArthipa year, his great grandson will get hold of the chuvadis. Akash is amazed. Granny gives a saree for Abhirami and blesses her a good family life. Abhirami's dad tells her that he wishes that her blessings come true atleast this time. Akash is confused to hear that statement. ABhirami and her dad leave. The beggar is writing "guru kshetram" under the drawing that he did last week.

Akash asks the granny as to what it means. Granny tells him that Abhirami is already married and her hubby died a week later. Akash realises what his olaichuvadi said.. that a kaimpenn will teach him tamil, and Abhirami getting upset when he told her that... He asks the granny as to when this happened. She tells him that it was a very long time back. Akash tells her that child marriage is barbaric. Granny tells him that all depends on the time and place and gives some explanation to it. Akash tells her that she should marry again and the granny is very happy he thinks that way.

YGM is at Poosaimuthu's place and the josiyar is reading the vasishta nadi to him. He hesitates a bit and YGM asks him to read it aloud. The nadi says that Arthi is seriously ill but has the blessings of the rishi and will be cured. Further, it asks them to refer to Asastiya nadi for proper remedy. The josiyar tells him that they do not have agastiyar nadi and asks him to seek it elsewhere. YGM is frustrated. The main josiyar, Poosaimuthu asks him to collect himself and tells him that he should understand it, being a doctor himself. It is just like one doctor referring his patient to another specialist.

YGM goes to a josiyar specializing with Agastiya nadi. He runs through Arthi's olai kattus and tells him that he has all but the aushada kAndam, which has gone out and asks him to visit them after a fortnight.

Somewhere in the country side, a few Eunuchs are camping under a road bridge. One of them spots someone in a bush and they all rescue him. It is Somu and he is running high temperature. The Eunuchs carry him to safety... thodarum...
From: Cinefan on Thu May 5 8:14:12 2005. [Full View]

Thanks ts for the update.I am out of station next week&so will have to bank on you for the next episode too.
From: aanaa on Thu May 5 8:27:50 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Akash

thodarum...

thank you for the update

thodara vENdum
From: ts on Thu May 12 4:25:32 2005. [Full View]

The Eunuchs carry Somu to a safe place and one of them finds his wallet. They find out his name and that he works for Neithal magazine.

At Chidambaram, the granny brings some food for the dumb beggar but he is not to be seen outside. She searches for him and finds him in the street, dragging YGM to their house. YGM sees the granny and tells her that he was on his way back to chennai when the beggar saw him at the bus station and dragged him over there. The beggar asks granny to give YGM something to eat in sign language and she invites him inside. YGM tells Akash how he ended up there and Akash asks him if he had any good news about Arthi's chuvadi. YGM tells him what happened at Vaidheeswaran koil. Just then some lady comes there with her little daughter. Granny introduces her as an old servent maid. The lady tells granny that she had come to visit Mani to seek the chuvadi of her daughter who had been sick for a long time. She had come to Mani to seek the agastiya nadi but he was unable to locate it. She tells them that her name "Sivakami" and her daughter's name "Arthi" matched but didnt match her Husband's name. YGM recollects what the "Tea" samiyar had told him...he had asked YGM to go to Chidambaram and seek "sivakami" when he will find about Akasam...YGM gets up and goes running to Mani's place...Akash follows him.

YGM asks mani to get the same nadi and read it out. Mani gets the Nadi and starts to read. It says Arthi, daughter of Sivakami and Thillai Rajan will live for 70 years. It also gives details of previous aliments that she had and says that she will have terrible time at around the age of 22. It says that this nadi will be sought and read before Sani peyarchi moves to the kadaka rasi. It says that she is infected with the aids virus but there seems to be a cure. It says that the cure is in the nadis of 12 people who will be dead at that time and lists their names and also tells that the key to all this is the chuvadi that is being protected by a lonely lady. YGM takes down the details, gives away his gold rings to Mani and his assistant for their help and leaves.

Akash tries to follow him but Mani stops him. He asks Akash if he followed any of the details closely. Mani tells Akash that the names are Manoharan, isakki, nandan, seethapathy etc etc and ends up with Soma Iswaran... He tells Akash that Somu will be dead and he has to read Somu's nadi. Akash tells him that he has it already but since the granny is not moving anywhere he cant bring it out. Mani sighs saying that the nadi mas its own mind and surfaced when it wanted to.. may be it will be read only if it wants to be....

Somu is down with high fever and the eunuchs treat him. He asks them as to where he is. They call him by his name and he asks them as to how they knew his name. They play pranks at him and he tries to leave but passes out as he is very weak.

At the farm, the maid comes running to the editor and tells him that Thulasi is missing. They search for her everwhere and Vishnu asks him to keep cool. Editor tells him that thulasi had done this before .... and vishnu asks him if she was found near an aids patient at a hospital... Editor asks him how he knew that. Vishnu tells him that Thulasi had done this many times in Germany and theres nothing to worry about. Maid tells him that her room is in a mess and things are everywhere and vishnu starts to worry hearing that.....thodarum
From: aanaa on Fri May 13 21:03:35 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

The Eunuchs carry Somu to a safe place and one of them finds his wallet.

thodarum

thank u again for updating the episode regularly
From: ts on Thu May 19 4:50:51 2005. [Full View]

Vishnu and others go inside Thulasi's roon to check and vishnu sees her hiding behind the bed. She tells him that she is taking a look at things she was using at school. He sees her school books and play things there. She shows him green ink and tells him that she prepared it when she was studying 9th standard. Vishnu notices an olaichuvadi and asks her about that. She tells him that it belonged to Mukilan (The gardener) and had some info on medication to Aids. Vishnu is surprised and looks at the chuvadi. The servent maid calls them to have dinner and they leave. Vishnu calls mukilan and tells him that he has to talk to him about the chuvadis...

The AC is taking a look at the chuvadis that they took from the old school when his deputy brings some one from the Archaeological department. This guy tells the AC that he doesnt believe in Nadi josiyam as they are not more than 100 years old. The AC asks him for explanation to his theory. The guy tells him that the original chuvadis were kept at the Saraswati Mahal Library in Thanjavur and people in the 19th/20th century copied from them. He tells the AC that it is easy to write a chuvadi as according to hindu mythology, there are 60 years and it comes as a cycle and someone born on the same year, same time will have similar jadagams. He tells the AC that with permutation combination, if one predicts 263000 odd jadagams properly, he has done it for everyone. (60years x 12 months x 365.25 days)
He looks at the chuvadi and tells the AC that it seems like the old vattezhuthu and offers to find its age by doing carbon dating. The AC asks him to proceed with it.

Akash comes outside after dinner when he sees Mani's assistant locking the house. He asks him as to where Mani is and the assistant tells him that since it is the holiday season, Mani has taken the family out of town. Akash asks him to ask Mani to contact him as soon as he returnes.

Just then a car stops by Akash and a policeman steps out. He tells Akash that the AC would want to meeti him regarding some Finger prints. Akash tells him that he will come to chennai a week later when he will meet him. The polcieman tells Akash that the AC calls him for Arthi's sake. Akash tells him that he will come with him and goes inside the house to inform the Granny. He tells her that he has to attend to some important official business and will be back the next day and leaves with his bag.

The eunuchs are preparing to Leave and somu wakes up. He tells them that he will not accompany them as he doesnt want to put them into trouble. The eunuchs tell him that they are off to chidambaram and tell him that he neednt fear. They tell him that people either ridicule them or are afraid of them and ask somu to come with them.

The AC welcomes Akash and asks him regular questions as to how he knew Arthi etc. Akash tells him that he had not met Arthi but her dada is a good friend. AC shows him somu's picture and asks about him. Akash tells him that he has seen somu only once and that is when Ismail was killed. AC shows him his photo that he took from the school and Akash tells him that he has no recollection of the photograph and does not have a copy. He looks at the photo again and tells the AC that the back drop suggests it was taken at Somu's house. AC asks him what he was doing there. Akash tells him that he had gone there to return some money that Ismail owed Somu but he couldnt meet Somu there. He tells the AC that there was a photographer and a journalist interviewing Somu's mum, who had taken this photograph.... thodarum...
From: aanaa on Fri May 20 21:35:46 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Vishnu

, who had taken this photograph....
thodarum...

Thank u for the prompt update TS
From: Surya on Sat May 21 15:27:36 2005. [Full View]

It is now confirmed that it's the editor who is behind all of this. The Joshiyar tells Y Gee that the remedy to aids is in the Vollai Chuvadi of these certain ppl right?

these certain ppl have been dropping like flies, and the murderer has been taking their fingerprints for the voolais. The editor's daughter has aids. And the picture taken of Akash, in somu's house which was found in the hideout of the murderers was taken by Shakti, (the photographer who works for the editor), at somu's house! It's all making sense now.
From: nirosha sen on Sun May 22 18:38:14 2005. [Full View]

At last SunTV has reached Malaysian viewers, Pa!! But alas, Chidambara Rahasiyam is not in chronological order!! I had just caught the episode where the eunuchs find a man in some bushes.

Not knowing head or tail of what was happening I'm still in the dark, where this serial is concerned!!

Except for TS's diligent updating here, I still haven't been properly acquainted with the show, Pa!!!! Sigh.........
From: gmax2k5 on Sun May 22 21:01:18 2005. [Full View]

Surya, what you say may or may not be true, because Naga is known to confuse viewers. We might think of the obvious, but in the end it might be someone we would have never guessed. But for now, Even I too believe that Editor is behind all this .But I have my doubts on his daughter. So lets keep watching.
From: ts on Mon May 23 6:00:05 2005. [Full View]

The editor is always supportive of Somu and asks his gardener to keep Somu safe but in one episode, the gardener asks somu to go to some village to meet some one who had left the village ages ago. I suspect that the gardener has some part in this. May be the lady doctor who treats Arthi is his daughter... Also, the editor always wanted Somu to keep off the Nadi josiyam matter after the first murder had happened. I also suspect Padma/Thulasi
Padma has ... ...
... taken Akash's photo
... always been secretive
... was at the scene of reddiar's murder
... spoke to Chaya about his grand father who had olaichuvadis etc.
... knows whereabouts of Somu, to choreograph the murder pattern
... is well known to Thulasi,

who might be the master mind and who
... is a researcher on Aids vaccine
... drove to a hospital and was found near an Aids patient
... talking about Mercury and cure for aids
... seen with the chuvadis that speak of cure for aids
... is schizophrenic (according and interview given by Malavika and we havent seen her other identity
... She got introduces to the dance teacher and when he was killed, someone he knew from Neithal was there and it is not Somu/padma or the editor

(remember Arthi was searching on the net about Thulasi and her research and had found something... she wanted to talk to Somu about that - and then she was kidnapped...)
From: detective on Mon May 23 12:56:00 2005. [Full View]

thuLasi injects herself with AIDS virus to make herself a subject for her studies. She & Mohanram try all tricks in the bag and finally resort to ayurvedham. One thing leads to another and they start believing in naadi jOsiyam. They search for her suvadi and find it. The suvadi says the cure is encrypted in the naadis of 12 people, and those people have to be sacrificed (narabali) for the cure to work. The suvadi also says that the cure has to be tried on someone else first.

thulasi's suvadi says that the most trusted employee of her father (Somu) is key to the plot and lists the name of the victim in sequence. The victims must be killed in the sequence, after Somu makes acquiantance with them. Somu has to be killed last. thulasi with/without Mohanram's help, keeps Somu from the police so that they can kill him last.

Dr. Mangayarkarasi is a friend/classmate/colleague of thulasi and she is also after a cure for AIDS. She conspires with thulasi and kidnaps Aarthi to use her as a guinea pig. They choose Aarthi probably because she knows something about the murders.

I don't think Padma is behind these. Naga is probably trying to mislead us. Remember, the photo of Akash was passed on to the killer (with a bracelet) by the photo studio guy and not by Padma.

Also, the first suvadi is probably a fake 'prepared' by someone like anbarasu. That will facilitate a message for the serial, that one should not indulge in idiotic activities just because a suvadi says so - for all you know, the suvadi itself may be a fake.
From: gmax2k5 on Mon May 23 16:05:24 2005. [Full View]

wow, detective, first post and good post. that is a good speculation. i think we should watch the serial and find out for ourselves.
From: ts on Tue May 24 4:30:04 2005. [Full View]

Good post detective. I had a doubt on these lines after seeing Anbarasu prepare the chuvadis. It got stronger when the man from Arch dept told the AC that he has seen many such fakes. The problem is that, like you said, we cant predict Naga... I am sure that the chuvadi that Anbarasu gave to the man in red shirt (one of the killers) is fake. Naga, at the end, will ask us not to believe in nadi josiyam... and at the same time finish the story with some prophecy that was mentioned in them but cannot be explained.
From: detective on Tue May 24 11:31:21 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

the man from Arch dept told the AC that he has seen many such fakes.

There was one blunder though, with the Archeology guy's reasoning. He was comparing horoscopes with naadi jOsiyam. Horoscopes are based on date/time of birth, time of sunrise etc. So it is possible that if you have made n horoscopes, you have actually made all.

But naadi jOsiyam is based on finger prints. It has been proven scientifically that no finger print is repeated, unlike horoscopes that are repeated after certain years. So he was comparing apples to oranges.

Moreover, the number of years the guy gave, sixty, is incorrect. I cannot give you the actual math, but one's hindu star birthday and Gregorian birthday coincide every 19 years. So the series is 19, 38, 57, 76 etc. They will not coincide on the 60th year.

Naga just tried to act smart, I guess ...
From: akila3 on Tue May 24 13:53:57 2005. [Full View]

I think the Editor is also behind this murders the reason is because Somu had always been notifying the editor about his whereabouts which made it easier for the editor to track down these people and to murder them.
From: ts on Wed May 25 4:18:40 2005. [Full View]

[quote="detective

There was one blunder though, with the Archeology guy's reasoning. He was comparing horoscopes with naadi jOsiyam. Horoscopes are based on date/time of birth, time of sunrise etc. So it is possible that if you have made n horoscopes, you have actually made all.

But naadi jOsiyam is based on finger prints. It has been proven scientifically that no finger print is repeated, unlike horoscopes that are repeated after certain years. So he was comparing apples to oranges.

Moreover, the number of years the guy gave, sixty, is incorrect. I cannot give you the actual math, but one's hindu star birthday and Gregorian birthday coincide every 19 years. So the series is 19, 38, 57, 76 etc. They will not coincide on the 60th year.

Naga just tried to act smart, I guess ...[/quote]

Yes, you are right. Also the guy calculates 263000 based on 1 per day but Horoscopes change by the minute... Naga must be trying to make us believe that this is a scam ... and will prove otherwise towards the end... this is what i hope...
From: ts on Thu May 26 5:07:00 2005. [Full View]

Akash tells the AC that it was the reporter from Neithal that took his photo. AC asks his deputy to get Padma. At this point, my audio went off for a short time.... Akash takes the photo of Somu and leaves.

Arthi is in the hospital bed and a man is restless. Dr Mangayarkarasi comes there and scolds him of the mess made at the school. She tells him that Akash's photo, along with Aushada kandam of 3 are with the police now. She hands over a large sum of money to the man and tells him that "periyavar" gave it for his sister's marriage. They man takes the money.

Padma comes to AC's office. AC asks if Chaya is not there. Padma tells him that Chaya had gone to koothandavar koil to cover something. AC asks him about Akash's photo. He tells the AC that Akash came to Somu's house pretending to be Somu's childhood friend when he took his photo. AC asks as to where he took the prints and Padma gives him the phone number of the lab. AC asks his deputy to check it out and thanks padma and asks him to leave. Padma asks him as to what this is all about and the AC tells him nothing to worry about. Padma leaves and when he is just at the door, calls the editor. AC tells his deputy that Padma is a strange man...His deputy tells him that the guy from lab had resigned his job.

Akash comes to Mani's place and asks Mani where he had been. Mani tells him that his business is not doing well as Vaidheeswaran koil is nearby and anyone coming to seek their nadi go there instead and says that he is thinking of opening a branch there. Akash shows him the chuvadi and asks him to read it. The dumb beggar comes in and sits besides Akash. Mani searches for something and Akash asks him what. mani tells him that he saw his name being mentioned and thats what he is looking for. He finds it and tells Akash that it is the first time he is seeing a Nadi josiyar's name being mentioned in a nadi. Akash asks him to read it. He tells Mani that the AC had mentioned the names of the people murdered and they matched the list that Mani read out of Arthi's nadi and asks Mani to read Somu's nadi in that regard. Mani picks the one and starts to read. It says that Somu will live for 72 years but is in trouble now. It says that the nadi will be read in the chitra month, 11 murders have already happened and the 12th one will happen soon. Akash tells him that the numbers do not match as the AC mentioned of only 10 murders. The dumb beggar laughs out loud and shows the ten fingers ih his hand along with a chalk and points to the chalk. They ignore him.

Mani is reading further and it says that Somu is in "vEttai" . Mani tells Akash that Vettail means hunt and Somu could be the killer. Akash denies it and asks him to read further. Mani says that vettai also means trouble... and here it means Somu is in trouble... and will be rid of it when a pariharam is done. The pariharam is to feed 4 eunuchs and get their blessings...

Just then the dumb beggar runs outside and starts to dance around a eunuch who he sees outside. This is one of the eunuchs that was with Somu. The eunuch runs away to a motel nearby where the others are having lunch. They ask somu to eat well and one of them has found a place for them to stay. Somu pays for the food and the eunuchs dance around him wishing him well....

Akash asks mani to continue reading. Mani tells him that pariharam has to be done. Akash asks him to ignore it and mani continues. The nadi tells that the 12th murder will happen soon and be of the one who is reading this nadi, Manikandan if.... and Mani fumbles... he is petrified...Akash asks what... mani tells him that the chuvadi is torn... Thodarum...
From: detective on Thu May 26 11:05:15 2005. [Full View]

[quote="ts"]At this point, my audio went off for a short time.... [/quote]

Just a few additions, ts.

AC tells Akash that they suspect Somu's hand in the murder of 10 people. Akash asks for the names and says he wants to know just out of curiosity. AC lists the names and Ashish recollects the names from the naadi.

The restless man by Arthi's bed is worried if she will recover. Dr. Mangai says only one suvadi is remaining and that will help them get the cure. (BTW, I think Aarthi should watch her diet. She does not look like someone being torturted)

Finally, I don't know if you noticed this, but the naadi says something like, "paththudan onRum sEra panirendum aagum". That is, 10+1 will become 12!! This is consistent with Akash's confusion about the missing number.

Questions/Assumptions:

1) Was there a woman in the list of victims? Was she pregnant? That would explain 1 killing but 2 deaths. But I cannot recollect a woman in the list.

2) There has to be at least 1 indirect murder, that the police do not know off. May be it is the mathematician nut who dies in the accident. Maybe YG is already dead, balancing the equation and fulfilling the prophecy that he will not see his daughter again......

3) I have crossed MohanRam from my list. It will be too obvious.

4) I doubt one of the two doctors who quit from YG's hospital. They also have a reason to create trouble for YG and stop his hospital from growing.

5) We have to revisit that list of victims from the naadi. I know someone who records every episode. I will ask them to play it for me and get the list out on this forum.

From: ts on Thu May 26 12:56:42 2005.

Finally, I don't know if you noticed this, but the naadi says something like, "paththudan onRum sEra panirendum aagum". That is, 10+1 will become 12!! This is consistent with Akash's confusion about the missing number

It doesnt say panirendum aagum but says "pathudan onrum sera, panirendum vIzhum thAnE"... Akash is confused about the 10+1 as the police say it is only 10. Mani doesnt show any reaction to that but only shows reaction when he reads "panirendum vIzhum"... meaning 11 already dead, 12th will fall soon.

I think the first death, that is of the Tamil vAdhiyar's would be son in law is the first one to die...(tanker death).

Three people qualify for the title of periavar.... 1. Mohanram 2. YGM and 3. Abirami's dad....it could be him... never know...

It is surprising that the killers havent sought Arthi's nadi yet, which has the list of nadis they have to find to get the remedy... wonder where they got their "list" from... and with Manikandan's name appearing in the list of dead, it makes 13 (including Somu whose name is there), why did the killers take Akash's photo ? Have to wait to find out.

From: ts on Thu Jun 2 4:56:08 2005. [Full View]

Guys,

Had a problem with my connection last night and hence could watch only the first 5 minutes. Could anyone do the updates please.

Thanks
TS
From: Cinefan on Thu Jun 2 7:53:55 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Guys,

Had a problem with my connection last night and hence could watch only the first 5 minutes. Could anyone do the updates please.

Thanks
TS

let me try though I can't do it precisely like you do.

Mani is petrified seeing that he cannot read the chuvadi fully as it is torn.At that time Akash's grand ma comes out of the house calling him&so Akash runs towards her before she comes to Mani's place.Somu&the eunuchs walk down the road where Akash's house is situated.Somu is struggling with stomach pain.The begger drags them to Akash's house&makes them sit on the 'Thinnai'&knocks on the door.The eunuchs argue with the begger asking him why he dragged them here.Hearing the knock Akash who is eating 'prasad'starts to go out but 'patti'says she will have a look.She sees the eunuchs&asks them why they are sitting there.They show Somu&tell he is suffering from stomach pain.She looks at a 'normal'Somu with the eunuchs&is bewildered but she stills gets 'buttermilk'with some medicine to Somu.Akash meanwhile is looking at Somu's photo which he got from the police.Patti looks at it&asks who it is?Akash says it's his friend but patti asks about his name of Someshwaran.She also says he is sitting with eunuchs in the Thinnai.Akash runs out but they are gone.Meanwhile Akash's neighbour's young mentally retarded son also called 'Somu'also runs behind them.

Somu&co get lodging at a 'Chatthiram'&Somu calls the editor from the phone there(his mobile has run out on charge&his charger is left behind in yesakki's house)&gives the phone number.The editor updates him on Padma also being questioned by the police&writes down the Chattiram's number on a piece of paper.After the conversation Vishnu enquires about the identity of Somu,why he is running away from the police,Is the editor behind the murders?The editors replies in the negative saying Somu is like his son&he wants him to run the magazine later.Thulasi meanwhile pities Somu's condition&makes a design using the piece of paper her father had written the number on.Chaya again calls Akash on his cell from villipuram to ask how long he is going to stay in chidambaram,why he went to Somu's house calling himself his childhood friend but now Akash knows her identity&asks her to come to chidambaram to meet him personally.he also tells her he will introduce her to Abhirami&she can get scoldings from her personally.As Akash walks away inside the house after finishing the phone call,we see the beggar's shawdow looming large.

Thodarum.....
From: detective on Thu Jun 2 11:00:55 2005. [Full View]

Thanks, Cinefan. Some additions from my side.

[quote="Cinefan"]
At that time Akash's grand ma comes out of the house calling him & so Akash runs towards her before she comes to Mani's place.
[/quote]

Mani then notices that the beggar has drawn something on the floor. I couldn't make out what it was.

[quote="Cinefan"]
Somu&co get lodging at a 'Chatthiram'&Somu calls the editor from the phone there & gives the phone number.
[/quote]

During this, the mentally retarded boy tries to disturb Somu - as if he is trying to stop him from talking on the phone. He repeatedly says, "Somuvukku pazham" (Fruit/Banana for Somu).

[quote="Cinefan"]
As Akash walks away inside the house after finishing the phone call, we see the beggar's shawdow looming large.
[/quote]

The beggar's posture suggests he is holding his hand to his ears, pretending to talk on the phone. He did this once earlier, and the tea saamiyaar made an acknowledging gesture from Chennai.
From: detective on Thu Jun 2 11:28:22 2005. [Full View]

Our suspicion that thuLasi is behind this, gets stronger. She has already learnt Somu's number now, under the premise of folding that paper into a shape (airplane???). Whether MohanRam knows about this is still a question.

I also suspect that the mute beggar is a cop. He seems to try and help Akash and Somu, but also keeps a strong watch on Akash.

Questions still remain:

1. How did Akash find that it is Chaya that keeps calling him?

2. What does Naga try to say when he shows as if the beggar/saamiyaar is trying to tap on phone lines?

3. What was the diagram that the beggar draw at Mani's house?

4. Why can't Mani and Akash sneak out to some place, out of reach for paatti, and read the whole naadi in one shot?
From: akila3 on Thu Jun 2 21:12:49 2005. [Full View]

stupid somu why does he keep giving informations about his where abouts to the edtior. he should have figured out that there the person who is doing all these murders are someone that is close to him someone that knows his every move, aleast he should have gotten suspicious by now.
From: gmax2k5 on Thu Jun 2 23:50:11 2005. [Full View]

heh. akila3, i agree with your anger. i hope naga has a good ending for this serial, because the serial is going at jet speed, i think he is trying to finish it fast, so he can work on his next serial on suntv, and also adhu mathrum ragasiyam. it was a dissapointing end for rudraveenai, the ending of rudraveenai was so unexpected, so, we can try guessing who the chief to all this killings are, but by naga's past, i would say the killer would be someone we would have never thought in the world, and finishes the serial.

From: Cinefan on Fri Jun 3 1:45:51 2005.

detective wrote:

Thanks, Cinefan. Some additions from my side.

Cinefan wrote:

At that time Akash's grand ma comes out of the house calling him & so Akash runs towards her before she comes to Mani's place.

Mani then notices that the beggar has drawn something on the floor. I couldn't make out what it was.

Thanks detective for filling in the blanks.

It was a diagram of a man standing below a huge bell.Is it related to the josiyar's name-Manikandan?

From: akila3 on Mon Jun 6 11:14:54 2005. [Full View]

what happened to the updates?
From: Cinefan on Tue Jun 7 2:22:49 2005. [Full View]

akila3 wrote:

what happened to the updates?

-The serial has been updated till the last episode dated 1st June 2005.What more do you want?
From: aanaa on Tue Jun 7 9:00:31 2005. [Full View]

Cinefan wrote:

akila3 wrote:

what happened to the updates?

-The serial has been updated till the last episode dated 1st June 2005.What more do you want?

may be living different (time) day zone
From: akila3 on Tue Jun 7 12:53:45 2005. [Full View]

is this the type of those serial that come once a month
From: Surya on Tue Jun 7 13:38:14 2005. [Full View]

Once a week.

Most of the really good ones, only come once a week, like Chitambara Rahasiyam, Shivamayam, Athu Mattum Rahasiyam.
From: akila3 on Tue Jun 7 20:06:15 2005. [Full View]

thanks surya, whats up with your avatar. are u an Ajith hater?
From: Surya on Tue Jun 7 20:07:39 2005. [Full View]

Go to the link in my signature!

I don't hate Ajith. I'm just not his fan.
From: akila3 on Wed Jun 8 11:04:09 2005. [Full View]

ajith looks funny,
From: Surya on Wed Jun 8 13:45:28 2005. [Full View]

Yes he did.
From: RATHEESH on Thu Jun 9 0:38:14 2005. [Full View]

can some1 tell me the real name of the guy who plays the role of SOMU(DETECTIVE) in this serial
From: rami on Thu Jun 9 1:38:26 2005. [Full View]

I missed a part of serial yesterday...

I only saw from the scene somu searches for his cell. It is with the little boy named somu.. SOMU goes in searchof somu only to find him have ink in his hand...

I think the small boy is also going to die...

Actually it must be "Thulasi's father behind all this...."
"To find medicine for AIDS and become rich.....
It came in that olai for YG... Medicine is in the olai of 12 persons....

As I guess it must be Thulasis father
Points to support my idea:

i) He only sends somu to the places where murders are taking place.
ii) Somu is his last prey
iii) HE has kidnapped the girl to test the medicine on her

Is there any other guesses ?
From: ts on Thu Jun 9 4:37:45 2005. [Full View]

YGM is in his house reading the nadi prophecy given to him. His wife is worried about him as anything he speaks only very little and anything he speaks is about Nadi josiyam. Just then the milkman, Sanku, is at the door. He asks Sivakami for Rs 10000 as his mother is sick. when YGM sees him, he realises the name "Sanku" given in the Nadi.. He asks Sivakami to give him 10k and asks him to seek his nadi and bring the results back to him. He then goes inside and sits with the telephone directory, trying to hunt down the names given to him.

Somu is at the chathiram in Chidambaram when one of the Eunuchs bring a charger for his mobile. They set the mobile to charge and Somu goes to take bath. The phone at the chathiram rings and the little somu picks it up and repeatedly says "hello...". He then puts the phone down, walks to Somu's mobile, takes it and puts it to his ear and starts saying "hello..." repeatedly. He then walks out with the phone, straight to Mani�s house.

Akash is wih Mani and asks him to read the nadi further. Mani says that he is afraid as it says that he will be dead. Akash is shocked but asks him to read further. They hear the granny�who comes to Mani�s place. Mani quickly hides the nadi. Granny looks at him and asks him why he looked petrified. Akash tells him that he is suffering from Stomach ache. Granny asks about his gamily and Mani tells her that they have gone out of station. Granny asks him to come and have food with them. He hesitates but Granny persuades. He tells her that he had sent his assistant to get some idlies for him. Granny asks him not to eat food from hotel and takes them home. Granny sees the dumb beggar at the thinnai and tells them that he was not up since morning. She tells Akash that the beggar always pesters her for food but hadn�t woken up that day. As soon as they go inside, the beggar gets up and sits in the thinnai�.his face grim�

Back at the house, Abhirami is in sitting in the oonjal. Granny is surprised to see her but Abhirami starts to cry. Granny consoles her and tells her that she needn�t be shy seeing Akash as he knew everything about her. She tells her that he likes him and she likes Akash also and there is nothing preventing them getting married. Abhirami tells them that it was because of problems in her horoscope that her husband died a week after marriage and she doesn�t want that to happen to Akash. Akash ridicules her and tells her that it was her who asked him not to believe in any form of josiyam� and giggles. Granny asks her to change her dress and serve food for Akash and mani.

Some local guy comes to mani�s house to seek his nadi. He sees little somu there with the phone and gives him a chocolate. Little somu gets it and starts to murmur �chocolate..� releatedly. Just then Mani�s assistant comes there and takes the guy�s fingerprint for comparison. He asks Somu as to where Mani is and somu starts to �chant� patti� patti� Mani�s assistant goes to Akash�s house. Mani is having lunch. He tells mani that he has brought idlies for him. Granny asks him to give them to Little somu. He tells mani that some one has come to seek their nadi. Mani asks him to ask the guy to come back in the evening. The assistant goes back to the house and asks the guy to come back in the evening. He notices little somu has a cell phone and asks him to give it back. Little Somu starts to chant � its mine��

Somu comes out after taking bath and one of the eunuchs gives him a new shirt to wear. They realise that the phone is missing and one of them tells Somu that it might be the little somu who took it. He asks the chathiram manager about the little somu and he tells him that little somu can be found near nadi josiyar mani�s house, in the next street. Somu runs outside and looks for mani�s house. He sees the sighboard and mani�s assistant is just going outside. Somu goes inside and sees little somu there. Little somu�s mum is outside, looking for him. Somu asks little somu to give back his cell phone. Little Somu starts to chant �they�ve taken it�� when Somu notices ink on little somu�s thumb�. He is petrified and little somu�s mouth starts to foam up�..thodarum�

From: detective on Thu Jun 9 11:10:59 2005.

Granny consoles her and tells her that she needn�t be shy seeing Akash as he knew everything about her. She tells her that he likes him and she likes Akash also and there is nothing preventing them getting married.

Are you sure it is Akash? I thought granny was talking about someone else, whom Abhirami was going to marry.

Looks like the naadi of Somu actually belongs to the little Somu. We are also made to believe that the chocolate given to him was poisoned. But I think the poison was in the idlis, meant for Mani. Remember the suvadi says something like 'manigandan paNNiya karumam kondu' (because of his deeds), just before the missing piece. Maybe it would have continued to say manigandan, because of his (good) deeds will be saved by somu.

We don't know the names of little Somu's parents. Also, his job is to act as a messenger. Akash construed that as a journalist. It could also mean that that little boy carries messages to people in the neighbourhood.

Totally confusing!!!!

From: ts on Thu Jun 9 12:16:28 2005.

detective wrote:

Are you sure it is Akash? I thought granny was talking about someone else, whom Abhirami was going to marry.

Yes of course. Abirami tells granny that she doesnt want another death. She is looking at Akash while she says that. Also Granny gives her a saree and tells her that she wanted to take it with her when she goes to their home to formally ask for her hand but she doesnt want to see Abhirami wearing a white saree and hence is giving it to her now.

detective wrote:

Looks like the naadi of Somu actually belongs to the little Somu. We are also made to believe that the chocolate given to him was poisoned. But I think the poison was in the idlis, meant for Mani. Remember the suvadi says something like 'manigandan paNNiya karumam kondu' (because of his deeds), just before the missing piece. Maybe it would have continued to say manigandan, because of his (good) deeds will be saved by somu.

Nadi may not belong to little somu. It could be that it is little somu's name that is mentioned in the nadi, along with the other 11 people. Also the prophecy about Manikandam could be something like "he could have been killed.. but due to his good deeds and the granny that he will be saved...." blah blah...

detective wrote:

We don't know the names of little Somu's parents. Also, his job is to act as a messenger. Akash construed that as a journalist. It could also mean that that little boy carries messages to people in the neighbourhood.

Totally confusing!!!!

Again, the nadi is of the Somu from Neithal and the name mentioned there is that of the little somu.

I am sure Naga wanted to confuse viewers here.. hence he had this character around.

From: detective on Thu Jun 9 12:35:17 2005.

Again, the nadi is of the Somu from Neithal and the name mentioned there is that of the little somu.

I am sure Naga wanted to confuse viewers here.. hence he had this character around.

Did you notice granny making a passing statement about Abirami's dad? He is a josiyar too, and a good one at that. Maybe he is doing all this killing as a pariharam to get his daughter remarried. He is also in your 'periyavar' list

Wink

From: aanaa on Thu Jun 9 20:52:57 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

YGM is

thank u for the updates
From: Surya on Thu Jun 9 21:14:26 2005. [Full View]

I feel so sorry for the little kid!

From: rami on Sat Jun 11 2:44:26 2005.

Hi TS,

Thank u for the updates...

I think the small boy is also going to die...

Actually it must be "Thulasi's father behind all this...."
"To find medicine for AIDS and become rich.....
It came in that olai for YG... Medicine is in the olai of 12 persons....

As I guess it must be Thulasis father
Points to support my idea:

i) He only sends somu to the places where murders are taking place.
ii) Somu is his last prey
iii) HE has kidnapped the girl to test the medicine on her

Is there any other guesses ?

What do u people think?
What will be the climax?

From: RATHEESH on Sat Jun 11 8:03:45 2005. [Full View]

can some1 tell me the real name of the guy who plays the role of SOMU(DETECTIVE) in this serial
From: SSathiya on Sat Jun 11 13:18:58 2005. [Full View]

SOMU'S REAL NAME IS KRISHNA
From: annamalaiar on Mon Jun 13 10:34:42 2005. [Full View]

In Malaysia the last episode they showed was a recap of all the previous episodes up to where Somu has a high fever ... at the end of the half-hour they said ... "With This Chidambara Raghasiyam will continue.."

But before that the episode was the one prior to Somu the small boy being poisoned (the episode shown in India is shown on Saturday night here)

Does anyone know why they will be repeating a couple of episodes here in Malaysia???
From: dsankaran on Tue Jun 14 14:04:00 2005. [Full View]

Hi,

I have been a silent reader of this thread for sometime now. Thank you to all for your updates and detailed comments. Helps me keep up to date with the story line even though I don't have Sun TV connection now.

Hope Naga doesn't extend this serial like Rudra Veenai.

As a sidenote, does anyone know if this serial can be got on tapes in the USA?

- D
From: ts on Thu Jun 16 5:05:06 2005. [Full View]

Little Somu is dying and Somu cannto do anything about it. He is frightened and runs out of the house. Meanwhile, the dumb beggar calls Little somu's mum, who is looking for him, and asks her to help him out with pumping water and takes bath.

Mani's assistant sees somu running outside. He finds little somu dead. He then runs to Akash's house and tells everone about little somu. Akash and mani rush into Mani's house and see the dead boy. Meanwhile, news spreads and locals start to group outside the house. The dumb beggar walks to the thinnai silently and doesnt seem petrurbed.

Somu runs into the chathiram and sits near the phone. He is mad and cant control himself. He picks the phone and talks to the Editor who asks him to stay put and that he will come for help. The eunuchs ask somu if all is well and somu takes one of their Salwar Dhupatta and runs into the room. He locks the door and tries to commit suicide by hanging from the fan. The eunuchs break open the door and take him to safety. They overpower him and take him to the back yard and pour cold water on his head and ask him to concentrate and collect himself. They tell him that he will get some clues if he focusses on events. Somu thinks about it and recollects Mani's asst. throwing something outside when he arrived there. Somu gets up and goes to the crime scene. The chathiram manager hears them and calls the police. Somu goes near Mani's house to find out whats happening when he sees a big crows and police arriving. He sneaks through to the house opposite, which is Akash's house and the beggar sees him. The beggar then closes his eyes and asks Somu to go and hide and somu goes inside and goes upstairs from where he gets a good view of things. SOmeone in the crowd says that they saw a slim tall guy running and a few eunuchs following and that they are staying at the chathiram. Akash hears it and goes to the chathiram. Somu notices Mani's asst. behaving strangely and leaving the scene. He also notices Akash going towards the chathiram and recognizes him but decides to follow Mani's assistant.

Akash goes to the chathiram and asks the eunuchs about Somu. he tells them that he is Somu's friend and tha the knows that Somu has nothing to do with the murder. They tell him that they dont know of any Somu. Just then a policeman comes there and takes them with him for questioning.

Somu is following Mani's asst. who goes into a mandapam nearby. Somu confronts him there and asks him as to why he killed the boy. The asst. denies any wrong doing but somu beats him up and he starts to speak. He tells somu that while he was giving idlies to the boy, he saw the mobile phone and wanted it. Hence he grabbed it from the boy. He tells somu that his friend had arrived then from a village nearby. Somu asks for his name and he tells it is Mahadevan. Somu is shocked. He asks if it is the same Mahadevan who plays violin and the Asst says yes. This is Seethapathy's daughter's lover... The asst tells somu that Mahadevan had brought anpther friend with him. The asst. then went inside to hide Somu's mobile when he saw the other man feeding little Somu...The man has a white scar in the back of his neck.... thodarum...
From: detective on Thu Jun 16 11:41:21 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

The asst. then went inside to hide Somu's mobile when he saw the other man feeding little Somu...The man has a white scar in the back of his neck.... thodarum...

Good job on the white scar. I did not notice that.

Also, I think Naga is misleading us into believing that Mahadevan is involved. Is there only one Mahadevan that plays violin?? I think they are two different persons and Somu (and the viewers) are made to believe that they are same.

From: ts on Thu Jun 16 12:13:57 2005.

detective wrote:

The asst. then went inside to hide Somu's mobile when he saw the other man feeding little Somu...The man has a white scar in the back of his neck.... thodarum...

Good job on the white scar. I did not notice that.

Also, I think Naga is misleading us into believing that Mahadevan is involved. Is there only one Mahadevan that plays violin?? I think they are two different persons and Somu (and the viewers) are made to believe that they are same.

...may be...but two Mahadevans both playing the violin and from the same village will be too much of a coincidence... dont you think?

From: detective on Thu Jun 16 12:26:28 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

..may be...but two Mahadevans both playing the violin and from the same village will be too much of a coincidence... dont you think?

The assistant says "nearby village". He doesn't name the village, does he??? "Nearby village" applies to at least 5 different places and then, the chances of finding another Mahadevan the Violinist increases.
From: ts on Thu Jun 16 12:32:27 2005. [Full View]

Detective: I am sure the assistant mentions some village name and not "nearby" village.
From: detective on Thu Jun 16 13:15:21 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Detective: I am sure the assistant mentions some village name and not "nearby" village.

Yeah, I confirmed. The Asst. does say Mahadevan from Athipatti. So it should be the same guy. It is me who mislead the hubbers
From: Cinefan on Fri Jun 17 1:07:49 2005. [Full View]

Why so much fight about the identity of Mahadevan? They showed his face&he is the same guy who plays the violin and is in love with Yesakki's daughter.
From: ts on Fri Jun 17 4:21:35 2005. [Full View]

Cinefan wrote:

Why so much fight about the identity of Mahadevan? They showed his face&he is the same guy who plays the violin and is in love with Yesakki's daughter.

Cinefan, They did show the face.. but it is only the asistant's representation of what happened. Detective's point was that, Naga, by doing this, is trying to confuse the viewers and make them believe that it is the same Mahadevan who plays the violin.. and at the climax, he usually brings out a different Mahadevan....

...but in this case i think both mahadevans are the same... i dont think Naga will have a twist inside another... my 2c worth...

From: Cinefan on Fri Jun 17 6:50:24 2005.

Cinefan, They did show the face.. but it is only the asistant's representation of what happened. Detective's point was that, Naga, by doing this, is trying to confuse the viewers and make them believe that it is the same Mahadevan who plays the violin.. and at the climax, he usually brings out a different Mahadevan....

...but in this case i think both mahadevans are the same... i dont think Naga will have a twist inside another... my 2c worth...

Oh!,but as you said Somu confirms whether it's the same Mahadevan he knows by asking a couple of questions.I think the serial has started moving towards the climax.How many more episodes will Naga take to do it,hope not much.Can't wait for the mystery to unravel.

From: gmax2k5 on Fri Jun 17 18:30:24 2005. [Full View]

yeah, i think the serial will end with say 5-6 more episodes on the most. we are getting close to who the killer is. i dont know if Mahadevan can be considered the bad guy, how does he know if the guy that he brought was the bad guy. maybe he is innocent too, only his friend is the bad guy. what do you guys think?
From: aanaa on Sun Jun 19 12:04:57 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Little Somu

neck.... thodarum...

thnx -
From: aanaa on Sun Jun 19 12:05:30 2005. [Full View]

thnx -- ts for the update
From: ts on Thu Jun 23 5:03:43 2005. [Full View]

I missed the first 5 minutes this week. Could anybody update please.

Editor, Vishnu and Thulasi arrive at chidambaram and go to the chathiram. They look for Somu but he is not to be seen. The manager tells them that he had killed a boy and had ran away. Editor asks him about the eunuchs and the manager asks him to go to the scene of crime, where the police are holding them. They go to Mani's house and Editor introduces himself to the police. Akash is enarby and he introduces himself to them. The AC arrives here and is surprised to see the editor. He asks him if he is in touch with Somu. Editor tells him that he got a phone call and thats why he is here. He knows nothing on the whereabouts of Somu. The AC asks him not to leave for chennai unitl he gives hte clearance. Akash takes them to his house. He introduces the editor to his granny and she asks him to come inside. THulasi is sitting in the thinnai and the dumb beggar on th eopposite one. He looks at her face an she suddenly stops movign her head and is stunned. He gives her a deep look but before anything happens, visnhu comes in between and takes her inside. Akash asks her to sit in the couch but she goes to the oonjal.

The AC comes to Akash's house and enquies the editor about Somu. He tells the AC that he knew nothing about Somu and that he got a phone call from the chathiram. The AC goes to Thulasi and asks her about her research. Vishnu intervenes and tells him that Thulasi might not answer properly... The Ac asks vishnu about Thulasi's research and Vishnu explains about her Aids research and how she injected the virus into herself. He tells the AC that though she found a cure, it has various side effects. Akash and Mani are surprised to hear that. AC asks Thulasi as to what the medicine was and she tells him that Sidda vaidhiyam has a cure to Aids and the main ingredient is a secret... AC tells the editor that they can leave and tells him that he will come back later as he has a lot to discuss with Thulasi about...

He asks Akash as to why he lied to Somu's parents that Akash was Somu's childhood friend. Akash tells him that he had gone to Somu's house to return the money that Ismail owed somu but since Ismail is dead, and Somu was being sought, he had no other option but to lie. Granny is shocked to hear that. The AC goes outside. He gets a paper parrot from his car and gives it to Thulasi, saying that it belonged to her and it was found at Reddiar's office.

Granny confronts Akash and asks him if he read the chuvadi and was after Somu. He tells her that she is confusing things. She asks him as to when he met the AC. Akash tells her that he had gone to chennai to meet him and it was not for Somu's case but for Arthi's case. Granny asks him if he had any connection with Somu or Arthi. She takes him to the picture of his grandad and tells him that he went mad after discovering the chuvadi and that his life was ruined. She tells him that she doesnt have the strenth to see another person getting ruined for that cause. Abhirami listens to everything and is shocked. Akash tells the granny that she is mixing up things after little somu's death and tells her that the police had asked him questions only because he was involved in both cases... as he was returning Ismail's money to Somu and for his part in giving the finger print to YGM... He asks her to get something for him to eat. Granny seems to be convinced and goes inside. Abhirami is still stunned. Akash comes to her , winks at her and goes inside. She seems scared now... thodarum
From: Cinefan on Thu Jun 23 6:06:30 2005. [Full View]

ts,
The episode started with the confrontation scene between Somu&Mani's assistant where Mahadevan's name is mentioned.You have started seeing from the right point.
From: kaarthik on Thu Jun 23 10:45:12 2005. [Full View]

hi,
I am new to this tread, But I am also a grt fun of C.R. it is so grt!
well as for the killer, I have doubts on thulasi's HUbby...Vishnu. May be he also has something to do with the murders. May be for the fame of inventing the cure to aids....hey ts your updates are grt, I read weekly, since I only get a complete cassettee once a month. keep the good job going!
Cheers
From: detective on Thu Jun 23 11:02:46 2005. [Full View]

Cinefan wrote:

ts,
The episode started with the confrontation scene between Somu&Mani's assistant where Mahadevan's name is mentioned.You have started seeing from the right point.

The assistant also mentions the white scar. This is very important because what we saw in B&W was narrated by the asst. If he does not mention the scar in as many words, we cannot give importance to that. But now we can....
From: detective on Thu Jun 23 11:10:58 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

The AC goes outside. He gets a paper parrot from his car and gives it to Thulasi, saying that it belonged to her and it was found at Reddiar's office.

Any idea how the AC found out that Thulasi made that parrot? Actually, Thulasi gave it to Somu and Reddiyar asked for it from Somu.

Moreover, she unfolds the paper immediately, almost hastily. I did not see anything on the back of the paper, but they did not show that clearly either. She also made a paper figure with Somu's chathiram phone number.

Any significance to those figures??
From: gmax2k5 on Thu Jun 23 22:24:51 2005. [Full View]

I dont know how many of you noticed this, but I thought it was awesome. OK. when that guy tells somu that mahadevan and the other guy comes and they probably killed the boy. Somu thinks back to the incident where Mahadevan's girlfriend's dad dies. You know when Somu and the guy are eating, and he suddenly dies. Then Somu runs to the middle of the house, and the girl says "appa I am coming". You should notice at htis point that the whole scene is B&W, but in teh back of teh house there is a guitar, and they show the violin in color. This was an indication that mahadevan was there. TS, if you have it recorded or anyone has it recorded look at it again. This was clue to Somu that Mahadevan was there. I hope you understood what I am trying to convey.
From: Cinefan on Fri Jun 24 1:30:13 2005. [Full View]

Great observation gmax,I never saw that.
From: detective on Fri Jun 24 11:06:41 2005. [Full View]

Cinefan wrote:

Great observation gmax,I never saw that.

me neither....

so the killers work in a network and make use of people who have access to the victims. mahadevan probably had something to do with the murders of esakki, seethapadhi and little somu. similarly, they probably used someone else for the other murders.

somu is probably seeing things better now because he is not tensed - just like the eunuchs suggested.

One thing still not convincing though. So far, the killers got into their act when the victim was alone (a little different for seethapadhi). But in case of little Somu, weren't they worried about the testimony of the asst??

If questioned, the asst will tell the police about the visit of Mahadevan and the other guy, just minutes before the boy died. Mahadevan also confirms that they took his finger print. Won't these be great clues to the police? Why were they not worried about this?
From: aanaa on Mon Jun 27 20:40:07 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

I missed the first 5 minutes this week. Could anybody update please.

thodarum

thank u
From: ts on Thu Jun 30 4:23:10 2005. [Full View]

My Satellite receiver died on me yesterday . Could anyone do an update please.
From: rajeshmlal on Thu Jun 30 10:36:40 2005. [Full View]

Can Anyone Please update ????
From: detective on Thu Jun 30 11:41:12 2005. [Full View]

Aarthi is still in her bed and Dr. Mangai is by her side. Mangai says there is only one suvadi remaining to get the cure. Just then, a man walks in with one. Mangai is delighted and leaves to see the compounder. The man says he regrets killing the little kid and starts sobbing. He is bald and has a white scar on the back of the neck.

Kumaraguru and his entourage return to the farmhouse. Thulasi has folded the paper she got from the inspector into a kingfisher (the bird, not the beer). Mugilan is talking to his plants and Vishnu seems a little inquisitive and walks towards him. Just then, Kumaraguru receives a call from Somu and Vishu stops to listen. Somu says he is going to Athipatti to track the killer with a white scar. Kumaraguru is really worried and calls Padmarajan.

Mugilan is now accusing a parasitic plant of killing 12 other plants around it. Thulasi tells mugilan that it was he who planted the parasite there. Vishnu asks Mugilan if there is any connection between naadi josiyam, siddha medicene and AIDS. Mugilan claims ignorance, rather arrogantly. He says even the parasitic plant could be a cure.

Dr. Thillai is calling people on his list, requesting them to get their naadi josiyam to him. The paperman called Muhammed shows up and Dr. Thillai gives him money and asks him to get his naadi as well. The previous guy, who got money for naadi, shows up and gives a notebook to Dr. Thillai. He also says the predictions were true. Muhammed seems convinced.

Dr. Mangai comes in and inquires about Aarthi. Sivakami tells her about Dr. Thillai's obsession with naadi and his attempt to get the suvadis of 12 people. Mangai appears restless.

Vishnu is in the farm inquiring the maid about Mugilan. The maid first refuses to say anything, but when Vishnu persuades her, she says Mugilan is a long-timer, lives in the nearby village and only Somu has been there. She also says Mugilan has some knowledge in medicene, probably siddha. She then hears Kumaraguru calling for her and runs. Someone seems to be listening to all this from behind the bushes.

Kumaraguru is again worried that Thualsi is not in her room. Vishnu pacifies him and takes him to Thulasi who is in a different room. He then says Kumaraguru is freaking out a lot these days. He has a smirk on his face, though Kumaraguru seems concerned about Somu and Thulasi. Padmarajan shows up and Kumaraguru gives him lot of money to get Somu back from Athipatti. Thulasi is making a shape as usual, and says a spider does not eat the smaller preys caught in its web. It leaves the smaller bugs as a bait waits for a bigger insect and catches the bigger one instead.

thodarum........
From: ts on Thu Jun 30 11:52:47 2005. [Full View]

Nice one. Thanks Detective
From: detective on Thu Jun 30 13:55:06 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Nice one. Thanks Detective

Not a problem, ts. We all owe you one...
From: rajeshmlal on Fri Jul 1 6:25:02 2005. [Full View]

By the way who is that kumarguru? Is he editor or different character... Can any one please update?
From: ts on Fri Jul 1 7:55:05 2005. [Full View]

rajeshmlal wrote:

By the way who is that kumarguru? Is he editor or different character... Can any one please update?

Kumaraguru is the editor
From: annamalaiar on Sun Jul 3 12:10:56 2005. [Full View]

Sun TV Malaysia used to show CR at 9.30 on Saturday nights, but last night they showed something else. Anyone know when they are showing CR now?
From: aanaa on Sun Jul 3 18:11:55 2005. [Full View]

detective wrote:

thodarum........

thaks 4 the update
From: ts on Wed Jul 6 6:33:46 2005. [Full View]

Need your help again guys this week. My receiver is not back yet. Please update.

TIA
TS
From: aanaa on Wed Jul 6 20:23:01 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Need your help again guys this week. My receiver is not back yet. Please update.

TIA
TS

someone give a hand
From: detective on Wed Jul 6 22:26:41 2005. [Full View]

Somu comes to Mahadevan's house, posing as his friend. Learns that Mahadevan and Seethpadhi's daughter got married that day. Just then, the bride and the groom come in and prostrate before Seethapadhi's photo. The daughter breaks down and gets mad at Mahadevan. Other relatives tell Mahadevan that this is common among brides and ask him to go in and rest.

Once inside the bedroom, he is confronted by Somu, who wastes no time in accusing him of murdering both Seethapadhi and Little Somu. Mahadevan tells Somu his version of the story.

Apparantly, Seethapadhi had refused to give his daughter's hand to Mahadevan, citing his joblessness. Isakki is also there, trying to talk on behalf of Mahadevan. Seethapadhi challenges Mahadevan to earn Rs. 100,000 first. Mahadevan walks out and is accosted by Paadhi Paramasivam. PP is another useless guy always found outside Isakki's house. (Somu recalls seeing PP there, when he went into Isakki's house to find Isakki dead.)

PP introduces Mahadevan to the scarman, who promises to pay the money in turn for Seethapadhi's finger print. Mahadevan agrees and goes stealthily to Seethapadhi's house in the night. He playfully takes the plate of dosai from the daughter, and the scarman takes it from him and mixes something without her knowledge (though Mahadevan sees it).

Minutes later, Mahadevan hears the screams and goes in, only to find Seethapadhi dead. He removes the fingerprint, hands it over to scarman, gets his money, and leaves.

Later, the scarman again meets him at Chidambaram at the naadi josiyar's place. He takes the fingerprint of the little guy and Mahadevan knows nothing else. He suggests that paadhi paramasivam may know more about the scarman. Somu leaves their home.

AC Aadiyapaadham interrogates the eunuchs. They narrate their experience with Somu and say he is innocent. AC asks them where Somu is now. They say he might have gone to the site of killing. AC says that is the usual habit of killers, to go back to the killing sites. The eunuchs say that is not a good logic because even the AC was there and that does not mean he killed the boy. AC laughs and dismisses them.

Aarthi is having kind of a seizure and Mangai is worried. The scarman is there and asks what is going on. Mangai says the 12th naadi was wrong and does not have any info about the medicene. She also says Somu is looking for the man with a scar behind his neck, and the scarman should do something to hide it.

thodarum (appaadi........ loooooooooooong episode)
From: gmax2k5 on Thu Jul 7 18:44:55 2005. [Full View]

So, who do you guys think perivar will be? Mangai mentions perivar. So, I guess we can rule out females. I have a doubt on Padma, his role is very minimal, I am thinking he probably has something to do with it.

From: Cinefan on Fri Jul 8 7:24:44 2005.

gmax2k5 wrote:

So, who do you guys think perivar will be? Mangai mentions perivar. So, I guess we can rule out females. I have a doubt on Padma, his role is very minimal, I am thinking he probably has something to do with it.

Padma being called 'Periyavar'-looks odd

Smile

Kumaraguru is the obvious choice,knowing Naga he can be ruled out.

YGM-Naga will have to do a great job in convincing us.

Somehow Abirami's dad looks like the suspect to me.

Any more guesses hubbers?

From: ts on Fri Jul 8 8:02:36 2005.

Cinefan wrote:

gmax2k5 wrote:

So, who do you guys think perivar will be? Mangai mentions perivar. So, I guess we can rule out females. I have a doubt on Padma, his role is very minimal, I am thinking he probably has something to do with it.

Padma being called 'Periyavar'-looks odd Smile

Smile

Kumaraguru is the obvious choice,knowing Naga he can be ruled out.

YGM-Naga will have to do a great job in convincing us.

Somehow Abirami's dad looks like the suspect to me.

Any more guesses hubbers?

My first suspect would be Kumaraguru but i dont think Naga will make it so obivious. Hence, my main suspect is Abirami's dad. He disappeared for sometime, pretending to accompany the Sankaracharya to Kasi. He is an expert in reading Nadis and has previously read Somu's nadi, from where he could have obtained the details about the 12 people and about medicine for Aids. I think, this is where it all started. Only thing that doesnt tally is where he gets his funds from. May be Akash's dad is funding the operation without Akash's knowledge and that he has a secret tie up with Abirami's dad.

Chances of Somu being Akash's close relative cannot be discounted.

From: Cinefan on Fri Jul 8 8:23:07 2005.

Only thing that doesnt tally is where he gets his funds from. May be Akash's dad is funding the operation without Akash's knowledge and that he has a secret tie up with Abirami's dad.

Why would Akash's dad fund it-Flash back?

Smile

I think Dr.Mangai might be financing it,after all she's running the hospiral now&2 important doc's quit,maybe she was responsible for that.

What do you say?

From: ts on Fri Jul 8 11:00:45 2005. [Full View]

Cinefan:
I am just opening up new areas for the director. You never know he might have something like this in mind.... like Vishnu's character. No body would have imagined a twist like that...

Reasons for me to bring Akash's dad into the picture:
granny always complain to Akash that his father never bothered to come to India
some one with trunk loads of money doing this without fear of being caught (paying 1 lakh to get a thumb impression)
Somu's Nadi has names of all 12 people and it is with Akash's family
Abirami's dad - his character, along with Padma's is being underplayed
He was at the granny's house twice and both times the dumb begar not seen aywhere in the area (may be i am assuming)
From: detective on Fri Jul 8 11:50:03 2005. [Full View]

Cinefan wrote:

Kumaraguru is the obvious choice,knowing Naga he can be ruled out.

Kumaraguru is being used as a decoy. Even now, when Mangai says Somu is looking for the man-with-the-scar, our first suspect is Kumaraguru. Because he is the only to whom Somu said he was after the scarman. But later, Somu will remember someone standing next to him at the phone booth and eavesdropping. Somu is recollecting things that he did not see before. So Kumaraguru IS a decoy.

Wait a minute... Maybe Naga wants us to think Kumaraguru is a decoy, but in reality he is not.

From: svasu_ani on Fri Jul 8 17:49:51 2005.

Laughing

I am just opening up new areas for the director. You never know he might have something like this in mind.... like Vishnu's character. No body would have imagined a twist like that...

Then why should little somu die?????????

From: detective on Fri Jul 8 19:24:53 2005. [Full View]

svasu_ani wrote:

Then why should little somu die?????????

Mangai says that the last suvadi was wrong. There was no information about the drug in that naadi. So may be little Somu is the wrong Somu and it should have been our hero Somu. The killers got the wrong guy.

It will be interesting to see know the killers actually identity their victims. I mean, there are so many Manoharan's in Chennai. How does the suvadi identify the right Manoharan? Almost all killings happen when Somu is around. Is this planned or is it a coincidence? It is too hard to believe it is coincidence. If it is planned, how do they get Somu to go to the place of killing? If a jujubee guy like Somu can track the killer by just threatening Mahadevan, obviously the police can do it to. Why doesn't the killer realize this? Why does he leave a trail? Mahadevan sees the scarman take the plate of dosai and turn the other side. Minutes later, Seethapadhi dies of poison. Why doesn't Mahadevan suspect the scarman right away? Even if we assume that he kept quiet at that time for the 100,000, why did he associate himself with the scarman again before the killing of little Somu?

I am sure Naga will leave many such questions unanswered. They will get lost in the interest that the viewer has and the suspence elements.
From: ts on Mon Jul 11 4:24:26 2005. [Full View]

Naga follows the style of movies such as "The Usual Suspects" where the entire movie is based on narration by one of a gang, involved in an incident. The guy (kevin spacey) narrates to the police officers as to what had happened and later they find out that the entire episode was a story that he just made up. Spacey makes up the story with a few names that he sees in the notice board of the police station. The director leaves the audience with a twisted/confused state when the movie ends and you keep thinking.. "if all this is not true.... what did happen actually ...."
The director succeeds in what he wanted to achieve...
From: detective on Mon Jul 11 11:07:44 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Naga follows the style of movies such as "The Usual Suspects"

Well, in Usual Suspects, we don't know what actually happened.

In chi.ra, we know what happened, but the director may not tell you how it happened.

I think this is a big difference.
From: ts on Mon Jul 11 11:17:19 2005. [Full View]

Detective,

I agree but, What we know and what we dont know will come to light only when the serial comes to an end. What i mean to say is that the director need not/may not explain everything and may leave us guessing on certain points. Thats naga's style.
From: karthik_rcs on Mon Jul 11 11:34:23 2005. [Full View]

Hello Detective ,TS ,
Nice to see your updates. You are doing a fantastic job.

I did some HomeWork on the Chidambara Ragasiyam.

You Must have seen the episode in which the sage in akash house wrote about a snake biting its own tail ("AALAVAYAI").
If anyone could tell me the origami art displayed at the end of the episode at the last...It should be the YING-YANG.

On doing some small research, i found that there is an connection with that snake structure and yingyang. Ying-Yang also has a snake biting its own tail..
If you drill down, you can get more...

From: detective on Mon Jul 11 17:23:14 2005.

I agree but, What we know and what we dont know will come to light only when the serial comes to an end. What i mean to say is that the director need not/may not explain everything and may leave us guessing on certain points.

Yes. We have to wait until the serial ends before making judgements. He may not explain certain things and that is perfectly valid. For ex. We may never know who the scarman is. He is just a henchman and we are not even concerned about that. We are more interested in who is the mastermind.

At the same time, if he does not explain how the killers identify the victim, that shows dearth in imagination. Let us say the suvadi says manoharan who lives in the most important city of tamils. Based on just that, if the killers identify the Manoharan correctly, I will not buy that.

But you are right. We have to wait for some more time.

From: dsankaran on Tue Jul 12 16:18:54 2005. [Full View]

Sorry for this off-the-track query. Do we have an update/discussion forum for the serial "Athu mattum rahasiyam"? Please give me the link if you know of one.

Thanks
D
From: annamalaiar on Wed Jul 13 5:51:05 2005. [Full View]

dsankaran wrote:

Sorry for this off-the-track query. Do we have an update/discussion forum for the serial "Athu mattum rahasiyam"? Please give me the link if you know of one.

Thanks
D

It is on the same hub as this, go to
http://forumhub.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?t=2401&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
From: dsankaran on Wed Jul 13 9:53:18 2005. [Full View]

Thank you
From: ts on Thu Jul 14 4:18:42 2005. [Full View]

Mani and the beggar are sitting in the thinnai, both with a blank face and dis interested in life. Granny comes out and gives some food to the beggar and he takes it without any interest. He keeps staring at it. Granny asks mani to cheer up. He tells her that his business is gone and he doesnt know anything else to do. He tells her that since the murder had happened in his place, no body will come to him for seeking their nadi as his place is inauspicious now. Granny asks him to keep his chin up and aks him to setup his business in their thinnai. He does so.

Granny and Abirami leave for the temple and Akash brings out the olaichuvadi and asks mani to continue reading. Meanwhile Mani's assistant comes there. Mani asks him where he had been and he tells mani that he was afraid of the murder and also that someone (Somu) blamed him for the murder and hence he had gone to his village for some time. Mani asks him to get something to eat.

He is very hesitant in reading the chuvadi and Akash insists him to do so. Abirami eturns from the temple. She tells them that she knew that Akash would ask mani to read the chuvadi an hence she came back. She tells them that it is in the hands of the police and asks them not to read the chuvadi but Akash is adamant. Mani tells him that he fears that he is next in the list as one of the names is Sanku.. which also means "Mani". Akash tells him that Sanku is for Sankaran the tamil teacher. He decodes every other name and tells Mani that his name is not there. Mani looks at the first name in the list "Palani" and tells Akash its his family tradition to name the first born as "Palani" and then give them another name... and i am the first born... The dumb beggar, who was staring at the food so far laughs out loud and starts eating...

The guy from Arch department comes to meet the AC. He tells the AC that the olaichuvadi they got from the killers is atleast 2400 years old. AC is surprised. He tells that the chuvadi is preserved with something called "Siddar oil" made up of camphor, neem oil etc. and this process was used thousands of years ago. Recent ones use Kerosene. He adds that the letters in the chuvadi are ancient as well and must have come from chidambaram. AC asks him why chidambaram and why not Vaidheeswaran Koil. The Arch guy tells him that during the period of Rajaraja Chola, he took palm leaf scripts of Devaram from Chidambaram to Tanjore and these olais were part of it. They were then preserved in the saraswati Mahal library of Tanjore by Maharaja Saraboji.It is when the british times, these were auctioned, and they ended up in Vaidheeswaran koil. AC tells him that the group is collecting chuvadis and asks him if he knew why. The Arch guy tells him that it is for the police to find out and since it is from Chidambaram, there may be some "Rahasiyam" associated...

Mani continues reading. The chuvadi says that Somu will travel to all the places of murder and will come to know of the entire truth, step by step. It says something like a small lamp placed in the sun will give its shadow. etc (Didnt understand this bit). It says that he will then find out about the kingpin. While he is reading, the begar keeps a fresh palm leaf in his hands and pretends to read as well. Whenever Mani stops reading, the beggar, in his sign language, asks him to continue.

It says, Somu has to do a pariharam on the pournami (Full moon) day that falls on a Wednesday. Abirami tells them that that day is today and the next one will be many months from now. The beggar lights up an agal vilakku.... thodarum...

I might have missed some small points. Could anyone (detective) fill up the blanks please.
From: detective on Thu Jul 14 11:30:38 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

I might have missed some small points. Could anyone (detective) fill up the blanks please.

Only one minor thing, TS.

Just before he continues to read Somu's naadi, Mani is wiping his tears. When questioned, he still cannot digest the death of little Somu. To console him, Akash says Mani was crying as if he lost his own son.

I don't know if it is some kind of a pervert thought, but is it possible that Mani was indeed the father of little Somu?? We have not seen his father, have we?

Are the victims listed in the naadi chronologically? The first name is 'palani', which has not been accounted for. It is either the guy(s) killed in the accident initially, OR it could refer to little Somu. If little Somu was indeed Mani's son, he would have been named 'palani' and then renamed Somu. In that case, who is the Somu on the naadi?? One more killing to come?? Or does this explain the anamoly we had earlier - one killing and two names in the list??

One thing is for sure. We will never learn about the dumb beggar and the reason behind his acts. We have seen many of his wierd reactions and Naga cannot explain all of those. Probably that is one of the things which Naga leaves to the viewer to guess??
From: dsankaran on Thu Jul 14 14:26:57 2005. [Full View]

I am confused.. Didn't they say that Mani's name was listed in the chuvadi? (as soon as the new year comes pathodu onrum sera panirandum aagume) Now, what is this confusion between the names Palani and Mani?

Was Somu the last name listed? How do Mani and Aakash know that Little Somu's was the wrong chuvadi?

And I probably forgot, what Olai do the cops have?

Sorry for too many questions.. but it is hard to follow when you don't watch the serial on TV. The updaters here are doing a fabulous job. Thanks a million.

- D

From: detective on Thu Jul 14 15:03:06 2005.

dsankaran wrote:

Didn't they say that Mani's name was listed in the chuvadi? (as soon as the new year comes pathodu onrum sera panirandum aagume) Now, what is this confusion between the names Palani and Mani?

Pazhani is indeed a new confusion. Naga did not stress on that until now. However, Mani's name was not in that list. It said something like, "padiththidum manigandan paNNiya karumam....", and then it was torn. That roughly translates to, ".....deeds of the manigandan who reads this....."

dsankaran wrote:

Was Somu the last name listed? How do Mani and Aakash know that Little Somu's was the wrong chuvadi?

Yes the list ends with Soma Iswaran. Whether it refers to one guy called Someswaran, or two guys called Somu and Iswaran, is anybody's guess right now.

And no, Mani and Akash know nothing about the suvadi being wrong. Neither does Somu. Only the plotters (and the viewers) know that.

dsankaran wrote:

And I probably forgot, what Olai do the cops have?

The one that they recovered from the den where Aarthi was tied up. I forgot whose Olai it is.

dsankaran wrote:

it is hard to follow when you don't watch the serial on TV.

I don't blame you. It is hard to follow even if you watch this. I have an increasing suspicion that many dots will be left unconnected. I hope I am wrong.

From: gmax2k5 on Thu Jul 14 15:44:49 2005. [Full View]

ts, and detective. did you guys understand what the pichakaran was trying to say,i dont know if he is a beggar, but the guy who always sits on the porch, doesn't speak a word, and keeps impersonating everyone. What do you guys think his role is to the story, and what was he trying to do in the last episode by eating, and then in the end lighting that lamp, everyone were shocked, i didnt understand what he was trying to convey.
From: detective on Thu Jul 14 16:23:20 2005. [Full View]

gmax2k5 wrote:

What do you guys think his role is to the story

Honestly, I am tired of his antics. There are these two guys, discussing something of grave importance (literally), and the beggar keeps doing something related to their discussion. But not even once, do these guys even try to ask him what he means by his acts. Unbelievable!!!

Like I said before, his character will never be explained clearly even in the end. The viewers would have forgetten most of his antics by then.
From: gmax2k5 on Thu Jul 14 23:48:43 2005. [Full View]

yeah. but maybe he has to do something with all these murders, we never know, just gotta watch it to find out. yeah, i hate that too, all these people just look at his antics and gasp, but dont ask him what the hell are you trying to say. So how many more weeks of chidambara ragasiyam left? somu needs to concentrate and find out whats going on around him, and that gardner at thulasi's house, whats up with him. I had my doubts on him like a long time back, I also posted here about one of his actions. This was a long time back guys, maybe it will be of some importance I think. You know when Somu was sent by the editor to the gardner's house, something strange happened then. Editor gave the gardner a sim card or something to give to Somu, teh calling card was unopened or something, but when the gardner gives the sim card to Somu, it looked different. just saying maybe it might be of some importance, i dont remember clearly, because this happened like 4-5months back. I dont know if you guys remember that scene, when Somu is at the gardner's hut.
From: ts on Fri Jul 15 4:05:05 2005. [Full View]

Guys,

I have a feeling that there will be no more killing in the serial. Remember what Mangaiyarkarasi says to the scar man? She says that the last chuvadi is wrong! that it does not have anything about medicine! So i guess Little Somu is the last one to die and SomaIswaran is Someswaran. Palani probably could be someone who died before and was out of scope for Somu to be connected.
Moreover, the chuvadi says 12 will die and splitting SomaIswaran into two people gives 13 names.
What say?

I think Akash and Mani look at the beggar as cranky (not so sane) and hence dont attach much importance to his acts.
From: karthik_rcs on Fri Jul 15 4:42:53 2005. [Full View]

When the episode begins, the akash grandmother says "for 3 days the beggar didnt eat"

This might be due to the death of the boy. In a place ,when anyone die, they wont have food [ Not sure something liek this].

Beggar is like connector who helps to move the story and acts as a turning point.

When the Dr. Thillai Rajan comes to chidambaram , he only Brings him to the Akash House..

I think the reason for lighting is to convey that there is a brightness came upon on the somu's life.

TS, detective. One thing you have left. Manikandan says while reading that somu has to do a parikaram.

i.e Wednesday - Pournami he has to write Name of natarajar in black ink and rub it.
I think this will happen by itself, because earlier Mani says he has to help four people to make himself survive which happens by itself.

This week in RADIO MIRCHI - a radio staion in chennai 98.3FM
it was chidambara ragasiyam special..
On Saturday July 16 2005 , NAGA IS going to appear. I will post the updates about the questions asked to him and his replies..
I was able to listen to MOHAN RAM
He gave a clue kinda of thing: All the Lead Roles in CR have the common shiva name [ AKASH, thillairajan, someswaran, kumaraguru] where as vishnu [ kumaraguru [editor] 's son in law alone is different]

It seems MohanRam asked naga in shooting. He replied that "Oh are u able to identify that" and left smiling at him...

From: ts on Fri Jul 15 5:13:27 2005.

karthik_rcs wrote:

I was able to listen to MOHAN RAM
He gave a clue kinda of thing: All the Lead Roles in CR have the common shiva name [ AKASH, thillairajan, someswaran, kumaraguru] where as vishnu [ kumaraguru [editor] 's son in law alone is different]

It seems MohanRam asked naga in shooting. He replied that "Oh are u able to identify that" and left smiling at him...

This is very spooky ! ! ! ! I think i am obsessed with this serial and a bit worried

Rolling Eyes

Rolling Eyes

Laughing

I was thinking exactly the same thing while i was posting this week's update.

Akash, Someswaran, Thillairajan, Kumaraguru, Adiyapadam (AC), Mahadevan also Abirami's dad has the name of Siva.

Other people with Siva's names are : Sankaran (tamil vadhiyar)
Natarajasarma (Dance teacher), Ponnambalam (Nadi josiyar), Little Somu...

From: karthik_rcs on Fri Jul 15 10:23:07 2005. [Full View]

An Man from archaelogy department comes and meet Commissioner. He explains about the fonts and letter types found in ancient vola chuvaid's

CLUE: He mentioned that , the Nadi tellers cant comprehend this type of vola chuvadis. Ppl who knows the ancient font alone can read this.

The People who knew the old fonts are
1. Akash great grand father - who is dead
2. Abirami father - He has seen great grand father so must be knowing some of the ancient tamil fonts.

I think the periyavar would be that fellow.
From: detective on Fri Jul 15 12:54:54 2005. [Full View]

gmax2k5 wrote:

and that gardner at thulasi's house, whats up with him. I had my doubts on him like a long time back,

Yeah. He is a suspect too. He always has a towel/scarf on his neck. Is that to hide the scar? He knows sidhdha vaidhyam. He was not answering questions correctly when Vishnu questions him. He knows whereabouts of Somu, through the editor.

There was an episode long back, when he eavesdrops on a conversation between Somu and editor. He then walks away with a suspicious look on his face.

From: svasu_ani on Fri Jul 15 13:59:54 2005.

detective wrote:

gmax2k5 wrote:

and that gardner at thulasi's house, whats up with him. I had my doubts on him like a long time back,

Yeah. He is a suspect too. He always has a towel/scarf on his neck. Is that to hide the scar? He knows sidhdha vaidhyam. He was not answering questions correctly when Vishnu questions him. He knows whereabouts of Somu, through the editor.

There was an episode long back, when he eavesdrops on a conversation between Somu and editor. He then walks away with a suspicious look on his face.

If the scarman turns out to be gardener..then how come dr mangayakrasi comes in touch with him? anyway to link arthis family, ygee, mangaykarsi with editor,somu???

From: detective on Fri Jul 15 15:59:55 2005.

karthik_rcs wrote:

TS, detective. One thing you have left. Manikandan says while reading that somu has to do a parikaram.
i.e Wednesday - Pournami he has to write Name of natarajar in black ink and rub it. I think this will happen by itself, because earlier Mani says he has to help four people to make himself survive which happens by itself.

Thanks, Karthik. The suvadi also says people close to Somu will try to hamper his efforts to find out the truth.

From: dsankaran on Fri Jul 15 16:18:33 2005. [Full View]

This thought struck me suddenly. It is said that "naadi josiyam" or "olai" can be read only for yourself.. i.e. you cannot obtain the olai for someone else (especially without the fingerprint or jaadagam).. I have also heard people say that it is impossible to locate an olai for a third party as that person himself or herself has to seek that olai and it will appear only when the right time comes (naadi chelbavarukku amaiyum). If this is true, does that mean that the suvadi that Aakash's Thatha has is not authentic? How are Aakash and Mani having a free reign on Somu's suvadi?

From: svasu_ani on Fri Jul 15 16:40:18 2005.

dsankaran wrote:

This thought struck me suddenly. It is said that "naadi josiyam" or "olai" can be read only for yourself.. i.e. you cannot obtain the olai for someone else (especially without the fingerprint or jaadagam).. I have also heard people say that it is impossible to locate an olai for a third party as that person himself or herself has to seek that olai and it will appear only when the right time comes (naadi chelbavarukku amaiyum). If this is true, does that mean that the suvadi that Aakash's Thatha has is not authentic? How are Aakash and Mani having a free reign on Somu's suvadi?

if the suvadis wont be handed to third party, and the person himself has to come ,then the reason behind killings and taking finger print and obtaining the suvadis??? so can we say some nadi joshiyar is also a part of the plan?

From: detective on Fri Jul 15 16:54:11 2005.

dsankaran wrote:

This thought struck me suddenly. It is said that "naadi josiyam" or "olai" can be read only for yourself.. i.e. you cannot obtain the olai for someone else (especially without the fingerprint or jaadagam).. I have also heard people say that it is impossible to locate an olai for a third party as that person himself or herself has to seek that olai and it will appear only when the right time comes (naadi chelbavarukku amaiyum). If this is true, does that mean that the suvadi that Aakash's Thatha has is not authentic? How are Aakash and Mani having a free reign on Somu's suvadi?

Right from day one, the serial is replete with scenes where a person is seeking the naadi of someone else. Somu tries to get the naadi of the beggar and then the first victim. The killers have successfully got the suvadis of the killed. YG gets details about his daughter. So why can't Ashish get details about Somu?

But time and again, the concerned josiyar refuses to read the Olai of a third person, only to be convinced by some reason.

I wouldn't give too much of a thought into this.

From: dsankaran on Fri Jul 15 17:18:34 2005. [Full View]

Detective,

In all those cases, they had the "regai" to obtain the suvadi.. Somu's suvadi is all alone inside Aakash's house.. something fishy about that suvadi.
From: detective on Fri Jul 15 18:11:25 2005. [Full View]

dsankaran wrote:

In all those cases, they had the "regai" to obtain the suvadi.. Somu's suvadi is all alone inside Aakash's house.. something fishy about that suvadi.

Yeah, you are right. They have not matched a rEgai to that suvadi. I also suspected that the suvadi actually belonged to little Somu. But the suvadi seems to talk about the hero Somu. We can say that because we know what is happening around Somu. But Akash and Mani are just guessing that it belongs to the same Somu. Of course, there are some things that those guys can verify as well.
From: cybergeek on Sat Jul 16 6:20:50 2005. [Full View]

[b][i] i suspect aakashs grandfather and the police man ,cos the olai says "whoever does the murder goes again to the places where the myurders took" so gues it has 2 b tat policeman

also aakshs garnd father also has some role 2 play

i wannakno there are some many ppl witht the same name yet how does the xact person gets killed ??[/i][/b]
From: aanaa on Sat Jul 16 21:59:38 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Mani and the .... The beggar lights up an agal vilakku....

thodarum...

I might have missed some small points.
Could anyone (detective) fill up the blanks please.

thanks for the update
From: priyajoyson on Tue Jul 19 6:00:22 2005. [Full View]

I have been going through the thread for a long time now. I have to say, that it is a really good effort and please keep up the good work. I am a doctor by profession and I am thrilled by the plots which the director is putting and I am glad that we have so many people to review and discuss about this.

I just wanted to know about the Vishnu character. How is his acting? Is he doing his job good for a new comer? I will be very happy if you can give me feedback about his performance, as he is husband. I am at the moment in UK and I have not seen even one episode of this serial and I would like you to tell me. What ever be it, I am very proud of my husband.

But will you please let me know

From: ts on Tue Jul 19 6:48:45 2005.

priyajoyson wrote:

I have been going through the thread for a long time now. I have to say, that it is a really good effort and please keep up the good work. I am a doctor by profession and I am thrilled by the plots which the director is putting and I am glad that we have so many people to review and discuss about this.

I just wanted to know about the Vishnu character. How is his acting? Is he doing his job good for a new comer? I will be very happy if you can give me feedback about his performance, as he is husband. I am at the moment in UK and I have not seen even one episode of this serial and I would like you to tell me. What ever be it, I am very proud of my husband.

But will you please let me know Confused

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Welcome to the thread. Nice to know that someone connected with the serial is reading our posts. It is indeed a very nice serial and all (underline all) artists do a very professional job. As regards to "Vishnu", he does his job very well, though his character does not take much of screen time. All the very best to him and hope to see more of him in the future.

From: rami on Tue Jul 19 6:51:05 2005. [Full View]

It must be Tulasis father (95%) who is behind all this. In one of the recent episodes, it is told that Tulasi, in her desparacy to prove that the medicine she has invented for AIDS is effective, she injected HIV in herself and tested the medicine. Though she was cured from AIDS, the impact of the medicine has made her like this....

So to find perfect the medicine formulated by Tulasi, they do this serial killing... To save lifes, they use these lifes for research... They must already had a kaandam their olai suvadis... with which they trace the persons... Kill them for some reason or other and find their maruthuva kaandam.... from which they have some guidelines to find the medicine.

They use Aarthi as a 'research rabbit' to test their medicine for AIDS...

Could it be?

Tulasis research is the basis for all killings...
From: priyajoyson on Tue Jul 19 11:26:52 2005. [Full View]

I was really happy to see your reply. After reading the threads regularly, I am as confused as you all regarding the 'periyavar'. But I have been persuading my husband to tell me what is the plot about. But he says other than the director NAGA, nobody knows about the story line it seem.

I should really say he is one of the most professional directors in the TV industry. I am really waiting to see the way this serial goes.

i know one thing for sure. He is going to bring some one, who we can never guess and make us gasp.

The reason I am saying this is, he is known for such twists.

From: detective on Tue Jul 19 12:29:58 2005.

priyajoyson wrote:

I just wanted to know about the Vishnu character. How is his acting? Is he doing his job good for a new comer? I will be very happy if you can give me feedback about his performance, as he is husband.

He is doing a good job. To my eyes, he looks like film actor Madhavan, though Vishnu is much more dark-skinned (perhaps to suit the character name).

From: priyajoyson on Tue Jul 19 15:42:41 2005. [Full View]

I am really happy to see your reply. My husband's full name is Joyson Sujith Kumar, and I call him suji. He is a christian and I am hindu. He is a very gentle, kindhearted person. As I told you, I am in UK for my higher studies and he is in India. I wish I can see both him and our son soon.

I wish I can upload our pictures in this site. But I am not that good with computer.

Any ways, he is delighted to hear that there is a forum and he is been appreciated by people for his character. It is a boost for him and he thanks you all very much for the support you are giving to this serial .
From: kathir on Tue Jul 19 22:22:01 2005. [Full View]

thanks alot for all the updates. really appreciate your favour
im back after a long gap...

kathir
From: kathir on Wed Jul 20 0:39:25 2005. [Full View]

sorry to ask this,, out of track..
is there any thread for RajaRajeswary serial.
i missed some of the episode.

thanks in advance
kathir

From: rami on Wed Jul 20 0:54:41 2005.

priyajoyson wrote:

I just wanted to know about the Vishnu character. How is his acting? Is he doing his job good for a new comer? I will be very happy if you can give me feedback about his performance, as he is husband.

He acts well. Actually he doesnt seem to be a newcomer. Convey our best wishes for him to shine bright..

From: ts on Thu Jul 21 4:02:46 2005. [Full View]

Last night just 10 mts before the serial started, SunTV went bottoms up! Seems to be a probem in their feed as none of their channels were visible. The service came back only late last night and hence i dont have an update. Could anyone who watched the serial do an update please.
From: ts on Thu Jul 21 6:42:24 2005. [Full View]

I am being told by SunTV that the problem was in the link between Singapore and London and hence it was a blackout for everyone outside India. Could anyone from India or those watching it from the same satellite post an update please.

From: detective on Thu Jul 21 10:50:17 2005.

I am being told by SunTV that the problem was in the link between Singapore and London and hence it was a blackout for everyone outside India. Could anyone from India or those watching it from the same satellite post an update please.

I watched it in the US and I know at least one more person who did that. So the statement, "hence it was a blackout for everyone outside India", is incorrect.

I will do a separate posting with updates.

From: detective on Thu Jul 21 11:19:22 2005. [Full View]

Based on the information Somu gave Kumaraguru, Padmarajan comes to Athipatti in search of Mahadevan. Mahadevan is consoling his scared wife. Padma questions him about Somu. Mahadevan just says Somu left Athipatti in search of paadhi Paramasivam (PP). Padma leaves.

PP is in a temple checking on a large sum of money. Somu confronts him and tells him police have caught the scarman, and they know that PP got money from him. PP is scared and starts telling the truth.

PP's friend Soosai is suddenly becoming rich, but refuses to reveal the source of his richness. He just says he is making a fortune because of, "other people's hands". PP sees him walk away with the scarman. Soosai is heard telling the scarman that PP is very close to Isakki. Later, the scarman approaches PP and offers him 10K for Isakki's fingerprint. He also says Isakki should not know that his fingerprint is being taken. For that, PP demands 100K and scarman agrees.

Then, one day, PP is in the porch of Isakki's house when he sees Somu enter the house and leave in a haste. Curious, he enters the house and sees a man runaway through the backdoor with a sheet of paper in his hands. PP sees the dead Isakki, his thumb already doused with ink, takes his fingerprint, and leaves via the backdoor. Scarman is waiting there breathless, gets the fingerprint, gives the money and leaves.

PP says that is all he knows and for further info, Somu should contact Soosai. He says the scarman had a short frame and curly hair. Somu leaves him.

Padma comes to the temple the next day, as he was caught in the traffic. He finds PP and asks about Somu. PP says Somu was there the previous night, but left in search of Soosai. Padma leaves too.

Back in the farmhouse, Kumaraguru gets a phone call. He says, "You mean now?...OK", and hangs up. He then asks Mugilan to fertilize the plants in the back. Mugilan says he did it already, but KG orders him to go do it. Vishnu, who is listening to this, becomes inquisitive and follows Mugilan. He walks past a sunroom, and we see Mugilan come out of a hideout and stare at the back of Vishnu.

thodarum.......

From: ts on Thu Jul 21 12:09:57 2005.

detective wrote:

I am being told by SunTV that the problem was in the link between Singapore and London and hence it was a blackout for everyone outside India. Could anyone from India or those watching it from the same satellite post an update please.

I watched it in the US and I know at least one more person who did that. So the statement, "hence it was a blackout for everyone outside India", is incorrect.

I will do a separate posting with updates.

It came from SunTV in the UK ...probably he wanted to comfort me by saying that

Smile

Thanks for the update detective

From: aanaa on Thu Jul 21 20:24:03 2005. [Full View]

detective wrote:

Based on the information Somu gave Kumaraguru,

thodarum.......

thank u
From: kathir on Sun Jul 24 23:58:41 2005. [Full View]

Thank you for the updates

...kathir
From: priyajoyson on Tue Jul 26 5:00:20 2005. [Full View]

thanks for the update. Good work
From: Sadhana on Wed Jul 27 10:03:00 2005. [Full View]

Before I go further, thanks to TS and Detective for the wonderful updates you guys have been providing us with.

From what I have seen so far, it looks like Mugilan might be the "naattu vaiththiyar" who is putting together the medicine?

I think Agash's great grandpa was just like how Thulasi is right now due to the missing component in the medicine for AIDS? I think that is going to be always a "ragasiyam" and when Aarthi does come back she will be cured of AIDS like Thulasi is now but she is going to have side effects like Thulasi. That is probably why the first prophecist that predicted Aarthi's future told Thillairajan that he will get his daughter back but he will wish that she never came back...

What do you all think?

From: ts on Wed Jul 27 10:35:05 2005.

Sadhana wrote:

I think that is going to be always a "ragasiyam" and when Aarthi does come back she will be cured of AIDS like Thulasi is now but she is going to have side effects like Thulasi. That is probably why the first prophecist that predicted Aarthi's future told Thillairajan that he will get his daughter back but he will wish that she never came back...

What do you all think?

If that is the case, they could have given Arthi the same medicine that Thulasi had. Why so much fuss and so many deaths?
The prophecist predicted that Arthi may not come back and even if she comes back, the chances of Thillairajan seeing her is remote. May be that he will die as, according to her nadi, she will live until 70.

From: Sadhana on Wed Jul 27 15:40:36 2005.

If that is the case, they could have given Arthi the same medicine that Thulasi had. Why so much fuss and so many deaths?
The prophecist predicted that Arthi may not come back and even if she comes back, the chances of Thillairajan seeing her is remote. May be that he will die as, according to her nadi, she will live until 70.

TS, what I was trying to say was that the medicine they have now is missing a component, thus the side effects that Thulasi is experiencing. I think they are looking for the complete solution which might continue to be a "ragasiyam".

As for what the prophecist said about Aarthi, one of them said she will not come back. Another one said she will come back but the parents will wish that she never came back... not too sure about this part but I recall seeing this... I get to watch these episodes in a bulk and it's not until a month later that I see another one so I could be wrong on some of the details.

From: ramvaradan on Thu Jul 28 0:46:20 2005. [Full View]

Its commendable that the narration & the story
line have kept the viewers in a sort of
edge-of-the-seat thriller ... but there are many
many holes/goof-ups that the author cannot
extricate himself from without looking silly or
far-fetched. The twists & turns that transpired
are too far-gone to expect a logical reasoning.

If the author decides to explain away the mysticity
by riding the Olai-Chuvadi wave ... (the pre-destined
events detailed in the parchment) ... then it sure is a
big flowery yarn around everyone of our ears !!!

Just as in Sci-fi/fairy tales etc there seems to be
no ground rules that appeal to a human intellect.

There's no way the author can come out of this
un-scathed without leaning heavily ON supernatural
part of it.
From: ramvaradan on Thu Jul 28 1:45:10 2005. [Full View]

In my view the following is the Sanity check list
for CR to finish with some credibilty :-

1) Remove the Paranormal-ity. Need to sideline
the Olai-chuvadi and come clean with a brand
new thought process.

2) Explain how Somu gets to every murder
location ... 'tis not a heavenly coincidence. It can
also be a planned activity.

3) Explain the murders individually ... Now, not
every murder has to be branded in one big
category. Not necessary that all the characters
murdered are dis-connected... although Cops
proclaim so.

4) Explain the get-in-s & get-aways of the
murderers .. It almost seemed like the
perpetrator vanished in thin air after the
crime. They may be cool-cats but not entirely
invisibles.

5) Explain the motive behind the murders convincingly.
Im willing to put-up with some degree coincidences,
psycho-paths, an iota of mystic, some vengeance etc ...
But not total BS.

Although we're too willing to accept the Olai Chuvadi
rationale ... we all know that CANNOT BE IT. There's
no such parchment that reveals people's
identity/life events/future etc with such amazing
accuracy. If it were true, the sheer complexity
bowls me many times over .... and why does'nt
the World know about it. Scientists in India and
elsewhere should start studying this ... DUH !!

A tinge of mystique/common doubts should'nt
hurt but that cannot run the show ..
From: Cinefan on Thu Jul 28 2:01:16 2005. [Full View]

Ram,
The olai chuvadi thing might not be appealing rationally but that's not the aim of this serial right?It's a thriller&a bit of the super natural will not hurt.

Also 'Nadi jothisyam' is a reality.I know ppl who have been bowled over by it's accuracy,I also know ppl who have been disappointed.Guess like everything else,the accuracy is based on the genuinity of the astrologer.But one thing I have noticed is that it's not prevalent like other forms of astrology.The talk is that everybody will not go searching for their 'nadis'&only the destined will have it read.

There is no need to bring rationalism into this&expect Naga to give answers based only on logic.

As long as the serial is well made&ends well without leaving too many doubts in the minds of the viewers,it's sufficient.Whether Naga brings a scientific temper or relies on 'Nadi jothisyam' is irrelevant.
From: ts on Thu Jul 28 6:17:35 2005. [Full View]

Vishnu tries to follow mukilan but mukilan disappears. Vishnu comes back to the front garden where the editor is and they see a car coming. It is the AC and the editor welcomes him. The AC tells him that he is off duty and had come on a normal visit. The editor offers him something to eat. The AC asks him about Somu and the editor tells him that he is not aware of his whereabouts. He says that Somu has been wandering in the street without proper food or any money. The Ac asks the editor about his garden and if he has any herbs planted there. Editor says that he has some sot hat it is good for health. The AC questions "whose health?" Editor is taken aback ... he replies, his health.

AC asks Thulasi about the herbs and her research. She says that Mukilan knows more. AC asks the editor who Mukilan is and the AC replies that it is the gardener, who seems to have gone home. Thulasi tells him that Sidda medicine has cure for aids. IT is in the herbs and lists the herbs that are requeired. She says, these have to be added to "rasam" and the Rahasiyam. AC asks what is rasam. She says Padarasam (mercury) and about the rahasiyam, she says it is the Chidambara Rahasiyam.

The AC finds out about mukilan's chuvadis and seeks Editor's permission to take them with him. The editor lets him have them reluctantly. The editor asks Vishnu if he had come on a long leave. Vishnu tells him that he has submitted his thesis and is here on a break and has to go back soon. AC asks him about his marriage with Thulasi and the divorce. He tells the AC that Thulasi is still his wife even though they are divorced. AC chuckles and tells him that he has heard of "Marriage for convenience" and not "divorce for convenience".
AC asks Thulasi how she got interested in origami. She tells him that it was because of science. She gives him an origami of Crane and asks him to open it and tell her whats inside. He tells her that all he can see is the crease that look like lines. She says that everything is a line in life (ellaame kodu dhaan) and that god, when creating the universe did it like that.

The AC leaves with the chuvadis. Vishnu asks the editor if he had sent Mukilan home deliberately so that the AC doesnt get to meet him? Editor doesnt reply and turns grim.

Abirami and granny are cooking dinner. the dumb beggar looks outside at something. A stranger brings Chaya to their house. Chaya knocks on the door and Akash get sit. He recognizes Chaya and takes her inside. He introduces her to the Granny as a friend. ABirami recognizes her and confronts her. Granny asks if she knew Chaya before. Akash tells her that they had a conversation over the phone. Abirami asks granny to cook some food for Chaya. Granny goes inside. Chaya asks Akash as to why he went to Somu's house pretending to be his friend. Akash asks her as to why she is interested in this. She tells him taht she fell in love with him and that he was innocent. Akash tells her about the chuvadi he has and that he knew Somu is innocent. Granny eavesdrops from the kitchen and goes to the place where she has hidden the chuvadi. She takes it out to check if it has not been compromised. She feels satisfied and puts it back in there.

From: detective on Thu Jul 28 12:54:32 2005.

Granny eavesdrops from the kitchen and goes to the place where she has hidden the chuvadi. She takes it out to check if it has not been compromised. She feels satisfied and puts it back in there.

One missing piece: Akash tells Chaya that his picture that Padma clicked at Somu's place, was found at the den where Aarthi was tied up. He also says the police are looking for the photo studio guy. Chaya asks if it is Prabhu, but Akash is not sure about the name.

From: gmax2k5 on Thu Jul 28 12:57:39 2005. [Full View]

my doubt now is on Vishnu, because although kumaraguru, his gardner, all act suspicious, i dont think naga will make it that easy.
From: detective on Thu Jul 28 17:44:47 2005. [Full View]

gmax2k5 wrote:

my doubt now is on Vishnu, because although kumaraguru, his gardner, all act suspicious, i dont think naga will make it that easy.

See, that is my point. Naga has built a reputation that he gives a big surprise. Based on that reputation, we ignore Kumaraguru. Finally, when we learn that it Kumaraguru was indeed behind all these, we will be surprised.

Suspenses are of different types. One is like nooraavadhu naaL, where we do not get any clues about who the killer is. Other is like Sixth Sense, Usual Suspects, where we get lot of clues, but we just fail to see them. Basic Instinct has a third type of suspense, where all evidence points to Sharon Stone, but we think it cannot be that easy. Our serial is of the third kind.
From: aanaa on Fri Jul 29 8:14:35 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Vishnu tries to follow mukilan

.

thank u again
From: rami on Sat Jul 30 2:25:04 2005. [Full View]

//See, that is my point. Naga has built a reputation that he gives a big surprise. Based on that reputation, we ignore Kumaraguru. Finally, when we learn that it Kumaraguru was indeed behind all these, we will be surprised ////

Yes... It must be Kumaraguru,
The photo was there in Arthis place know. It wd have gone there only with the help of Kumaraguru.
From: ts on Thu Aug 4 4:47:31 2005. [Full View]

....Chaya asks if Akash is referring to Prabhu... he says he doesnt know. Granny asks chaya to have some more food and she refuses. Granny asks if she doesnt like it and she says that she likes it very much and thats the problem.....
....she tells them that she is off to NewDelhi to start a new job the next morning. When the granny goes inside, she asks Akash if he believed in Nadi josiyam. He tells her that he didnt know anything about it until he saw Somu's nadi and started to believe when things written there started to happen. He tells her that all names listed in Aarthi's Nadi are dead which makes him a believer. She hands over an envelope to him and asks him to give it to Somu, should he meet him as she says that she might not have a chance to see him again.

She leaves for chennai and outside, the Dumb beggar stands with a grim face, as if he doesnt like Chaya's presence and/or the fact that she migled with the family.

Akash is reading something and Abirami brings him coffee. He is too much into the reading that he doesnt notice her nor answer her. Worried, she goes to granny and asks her about Akash's great grandfather. Granny tells her that the GGF used to be normal until he found the nadi. After that time, he would be very detatched, always researching into it, not giving importance to people, food or rest and speaking gibberish. She adds that the GGF used to say he has to protect the "sthala Vriksham" and noone knew what it was.
She asks abirami if anything is wrong. Abirami tells her that she fears Akash will become like his GGF. Granny tells her not to worry and the olaichuvadi that she had hidden from Akash is safe wherever she has hidden it. Abirami goes to where Akash was and he is not there. She hears someone talking outside and goes there. It is Akash, talking to the beggar. He sees the beggar's drawings and interprets them. He tells Abirami that the drawings tell him that everything in the universe is a cycle. Time, Solar System, Galazy etc..Abirami intervenes and asks him not to talk to the beggar as he will not stop until he makes Akash insane. The dumb beggar laughs out loud. Akash goes inside and the beggar points something to Abirami. It is a picture of Halasyam or Thiru Alavai, the serpent biting its tail and "Kalam" written in the middle. He writes "Grand father", "Dad" and "Son" around it and gives a cyclic reference to them and puts a question mark at the end

+---> ? GF -----> Dad --------> Son ------+
| .....................kAlam............................ |
+-----------------------------------------+

She is puzzled....

Soosai is in his house and proud about his new furniture. He sees the picture of Jesus from where he sits and feels uncomfortable. He kneels down at the picture and pleads guilty. Suddenly a voice appears and tells him that his sins cannot be cleansed. The voice calls itself as the lord, accuses him to have killed his friend. Soosai denies he claims but pleads for forgiveness. The voice is of Somu, who appears and asks him as to why he killed Nandan. Soosai denies the allegation and tells Somu that it was Somu who killed Nandan. Somu asks him to tell everything and Soosai tells him about how his friend Antony brought the scar man to him to get Nandan's finger print for which he will receive 1 lakh in cash. He tells Somu that he had taken the finger print but on the day of the murder he saw Somu chasing Nandan and later found nandan's body. He tells somu that the scar man at the scene. The scar man had come to his house later that day and paid him 1 lakh for the finger print. He sys that when he asks the scar man if he had killed Nandan, the scar man replied that it was not Soosai's business to ask such questions. Somu asks soosai about Antony and Soosai shows him Antony's picture. Somu recollects seeing Antony near Isakki's place....thodarum

From: detective on Thu Aug 4 11:40:14 2005.

....Chaya asks if Akash is referring to Prabhu... he says he doesnt know. Granny asks chaya to have some more food and she refuses. Granny asks if she doesnt like it and she says that she likes it very much and thats the problem.....

She also gives Akash the new phone number of Somu. Recollect she memorizes it when Kumaraguru writes it down.

Soosai is in his house and proud about his new furniture. .. . . . .Somu asks soosai about Antony and Soosai shows him Antony's picture. Somu recollects seeing Antony near Isakki's place....thodarum

Somu recollects seeing Anthony in the church, not at Isakki's house. Somu is about to enter the church and sees Anthony walk out. He asks him where the father is and Anthony says he is inside.

Also, the scarman offers 100,000 to Soosai because he wants to take the fingerprint of Nandan without his knowledge. Anthony, who introduces the scarman to Soosai, gets mad. He complains that he got only 50,000 for the father. But the scarman silences him saying father's case was different. Soosai then gets Nandan's print pretending to play with him.

From: aanaa on Thu Aug 4 13:55:58 2005.

....

+---> ? GF -----> Dad --------> Son ------+
| .....................kAlam............................ |
+-----------------------------------------+

She is puzzled....

thodarum

From: kathir on Thu Aug 4 23:25:15 2005. [Full View]

thanks you so much

,,,kathir
From: ts on Thu Aug 11 4:43:30 2005. [Full View]

Soosai tells Somu that he can find Antony in the barber shop as he had just left to get a shave. At the barber shop, Antony is resstless that he has to wait. Meanwhile, the shop boy is being sent to get change for Rs 100. Antony gives him a five humdred rupee note and asks him to get change for him as well. When the barber tries to shave him, he demands a new blade to be used and the barber shoots off to get one. Somu takes the knife and threatens Antony and asks him to tell the truth about the Priest's death. Antony tells him that it was Somu who killed the priest. Somu tells him that he has nothing to do with it and asks what happened that day.

Antony tells Somu that he wanted 30k to send his brother to Dubai and he asked the priest for help. The priest says that he has no money and ask him to seek elsewhere. Just then Nandan's wife comes there and accuses the priest of spoiling her husband. Somu recollects the events that happened at Nandan's house when he went after him. The priest then goes inside and Antony sees the priest having an injection. When asked about it, the priest tells him that he is diabetic and his sugar had shot up, hence he is having an injection. When Antony comes out of the room, another local , Sekar, tells him that he can get the money he requires and takes him to the scarman. Antony refuses to do the job as it is shady. The scarman increases his offer to 50k but Antony doesnt accept the mission.

Antony tells somu that Sekar is the local guy, who works in Reddiar's factory. Somu recollects the events that happened at the factory. He realises that Sekar was the only guy that the reddiar used to trust and is the tea boy.

Antony tries for money elsewhere but doesnt succeed and hence goes back to the church, into the priest's room and there the priest seems to be praying. Antony tells Somu that the priest used to have seizures because of his diabetes and he thought that he was having one just then. Antony tells Somu that he cashed upon the opportunity and took the priest's finger print and left the room. He says that he saw Somu come in at that time and go into the priest's room.

He tells somu that he wanted to meet Sekar and give him the finger print but the scar man found him in the next street and took the finger print for 50k. He says that he heard Nandan shout about the priest's death which made him escape the scene. he tells Somu that it was the scarman who killed the priest.

Somu asks him why the scarman had to buy the finger print off Antony if he had killed the priest. He could have taken the finger print then and there. Antony tells him that he doesnt know about it. Just then the barber arrives and asks them what happened. Somu tells the barber that Antony will tell him everything and leaves. Antony tells the barber that it was about the loan he got from Somu to send his brother to Dubai.

Padma makes his way into Soosai's place but the house is locked. Some locals tell him that Soosai had gone to chennai and will return later. He asks them to inform him of Soosai;'s return. He tells them that he stays at the editor's farm. They say that they will inform him as soon as Soosai returns.

At the farm, mugilan is talking to the plants when Visnhu asks him if he knew about Sidda medicine. He asks Vishnu what aliment he has. Visnhu asks him if there is a cure for Aids in Sidda medicine. Mukilan tells him that Sidda medicine has cure for all aliments. Vishnu asks him if there is a connection between Nadi josiyam and Sidda Medicine. Mukilan tells him that he has to ask the experts about it and walks away. Visnhu calls him many times but he doesnt respond. The editor tells Vishnu that mukilan is eccentric and arrogant and will nto reply to Vishnu unless the request comes from the editor. He tells vishnu that he should have asked him (the editor) before he talks to Mukilan for the conversaton would be more productive that way.

Padma arrives at the farm and the editor runs to the car like a headless chicken. He looks for Somu everywhere but padma tells him that he was unable to find somu. Editor becomes mad and asks him why he returned without Somu. Padma tells him that he tracked Somu to the village bearby but Somu had gone from there. He tells him that he is waiting to hear from Soosai. Editor asks him to have food take rest.

Thulasi comes there with a paper Cross and tells them that she had given one to Somu when he was there the last time. She ponders about the coincidence that he is there again and she is making a cross again....thodarum.....
From: aanaa on Thu Aug 11 20:37:42 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Soosai tells Somu that he can find Antony

again....thodarum.....

thank u for the update
From: priyajoyson on Sun Aug 14 17:19:35 2005. [Full View]

Thanks for the detailed updates.
I am wondering whether the director will be able to reason out all the twists in this serial or will he leave a few things unexplained.
Because if he cannot reason the events, it will ultimately leave the viewers confused and unsatisfied.
Anyways lets wait and watch !!!!

Happy independence day, people...

From: aanaa on Mon Aug 15 20:33:35 2005.

priyajoyson wrote:

Thanks for the detailed updates.
I am wondering whether the director will be able to reason out all the twists in this serial or will he leave a few things unexplained.
Because if he cannot reason the events, it will ultimately leave the viewers confused and unsatisfied.
Anyways lets wait and watch !!!!

Happy independence day, people...
Clap

Clap

end of the show - normaly most of the things unresolved

-sudden closure

From: ts on Thu Aug 18 4:26:15 2005. [Full View]

YGM is dealing with a "Seethapathy" at home who has brought his Nadi josiyam scripts. He pays him some money and asks him to look for someone by name Ambala Natesan, Just then a courier boy brings a letter to YGM. He tells YGM that his name is Ambala Natesan. YGM gets very excited and asks him if he can get his Nadi josiyam scripts. The guy tells him that he had been to a josiyar only a few days back and will get the readings to YGM who gets very excited. The courier boy leaves and Mangaiyarkarasi visits YGM. Meanwhile Sivakami quarrels with YGM about his activities and asks him about the letter. YGM tells her that it is for some convention on AIDS to be held in germany that he is not interested about.

While Sivakami and YGM are quarelling, Mangai, talks to the "Periyavar" on the mobile and asks him to hold the phone so that he can hear whats going on at YGM's house. She enters the house and asks them what the fight was about. Sivakami tells her that YGM has been spending too much money on other people's Nadi josiyam. YGM tells her that it was only the nadis of 12 people that he is after. Mangai is surprised and asks him for more details. He reads out the nadi kurippu and the "periyavar" checks it with the printout that he has with him. They match exactly. Sivakami tells mangai that YGM is spending 10k-20k on each of them and tells him that they cant afford to pay 12 people that much money. YGM tells her that it is only 10 people not 12 for, the other two are Somu - Soma Isan and Nandini - Somu's mother for the name "Nandan".

Mangai asks him as to how can he be sure that the names are for those people. YGM tells her that all is related to Arthi. Nadis do not seek the people but according to the prophecy, it is only for those who seek the nadi that there will be one written. Likewise, the 12 people listed in Arthi's nadi are related or closer to the family and thats where he is seeking them. He asks mangai to look out for some names in the hospital register. She asks for his signature in some document and he sigs without reading it. When asked about it, he says that he trusts Mangai absolutely. Mangai goes to her car and asks the periyavar about the chat. He tells her that the 12th nadi can be found not without any problems.

Arthi is in the bed and the scar man comes by and checks on her. Mangai comes behind him and asks him as to what he was doing. She sees him crying and tells him to control his feelings and that Athi's Aids spread had been arrested. Her disease has been controlled though she is just a vegetable for now. She tells him that periyavar will deal with the case and asks him to be fcareful for Somu is closing on him.

Granny and Abirami are off to the temple and Akash gets the olai chuvadi out. Abirami comes back and scolds him for reading it. She tells him that she is more concerned now that the elders are planning for their wedding. Akash asks her not to compare him with his great granddad as his GGD did not know anything about Somu, the murders, Arthi and aids and thats why he became insane. He says that he is trying to talk to Somu on the phone and promises her that he will give Somu's nadi back to Somu, once he meets him. Abirami seems convinced.

Its Early morning and Granny brings some food for the beggar. She tells Akash that the beggar has been behaving odd off late. He refused food the previous night and fell on the granny's feet (prostated) and was being apologetic. He asked her not to switch off the light and was seen drawing something, she says. Mani's assistant comes there and tells them that the beggar is not in the thinnai but was seen in the Mayuram road, near Vaidheeswaran koil. Akash and granny rush outside and see an Exquisite drawing on the thinnai. It is of Nataraja and Sivakami in the Ananda Natana posture.

On the left there is a writing, Thillai enbadu "LI"yin ethirmarai (all but the quoted word in Tamil).

Akash is stunned at the detail of the drawing and asks granny what the writing means. She tells him that "LI" is ellai in tamil and since the beggar is half insane it is not strange to see letters in two languages. It makes sense too as ellai's ethirmarai is Akasam and thillai is akasam. Akash is not convinced he says that there is more to it than the eye can see.

There is another writing which says "Ennudan serthu moovar, piragu Agathiyan" (or something that sounds like that). Granny reads it and is miffed at the statement. She asks if the beggar is writing this as if he is Vasishtar himself....thodarum
From: aanaa on Thu Aug 18 8:16:18 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

YGM is dealing with a "Seethapathy" at home who has

..thodarum

thank u for the quick update

From: detective on Thu Aug 18 11:43:16 2005.

He reads out the nadi kurippu and the "periyavar" checks it with the printout that he has with him. They match exactly.

Arthi is in the bed and the scar man comes by and checks on her.

Just wanted to add that "periyavar" is silhouetted and the scarman is shown from the back. So we do not see their faces, but we hear their voices.

By not showing their faces, Naga is trying to make us believe that we know them by face. Only then, not showing their face will make sense. But we hear the voices. Which means, we have seen these characters before, but we have not heard their voices enough to identify them.

I think this is a trap. Can anyone recollect any character, that is quite familiar to us by face, but we cannot recognize the voice? I cannot think of one. So even when we see the faces of periyavar and scarman, we will not recognize them. We will not be shocked. It is even possible that we will never see their faces.

So there has to be a "Super" periyavar who is directing periyavar, and that guy must be a known character. Otherwise, there is no suspense.

From: ts on Thu Aug 18 12:30:34 2005. [Full View]

May be we havent seen him before...May be by showing the face silhouetted, Naga is again trying to confuse the viewers making them believe that they must have seen the face before.

Having seen the previous two episodes, question comes to my mind is if there is another group behind this. One is killing the people and one trying to get their finger print for the nadi.

Why should the scar man pay other people if he has already killed the victims. He could have taken the regai himself ?

May be two groups are operating with the same goal and one is doing the killing so that the other cannot take the regai.

From: detective on Thu Aug 18 13:17:37 2005.

Why should the scar man pay other people if he has already killed the victims. He could have taken the regai himself ?

May be two groups are operating with the same goal and one is doing the killing so that the other cannot take the regai.

It appears as if the scarman is killing at least a few of the victims. He repents for killing little Somu. He takes the unadulterated dosai from Mahadevan, gives it back after some time, Seethapadhi eats it and dies. So he definitely kills them. He takes Somu's print himself and uses Mahadevan for Seethapadhi. Both those killings are my mixing poison into food.

But with Isakki, Nandan and the father, killings are through the syringe. So it is possible that those are by a different group. Isakki's finger is already doused with ink before PP takes the print. Nandan's print was taken much before his killing, and father's print was taken after the killing but his finger did not have ink on it.

It is quite possible that there are two groups and one beats the other in getting to the victims. It is also possible that the group that gets the print first, kills the victim so that the other party cannot get it.

But Dr. Mangai claims to have all but one naadis. So the killing by the other party does not seem to stop them from getting the required naadis.

From: karthik_rcs on Sun Aug 21 8:32:36 2005. [Full View]

The Beggar who was staying outside Akash house has written.
"Ennodu ini moovar kadaseeyil agathian"

I think Agathian will be the Y.G mahendran. In Vidathu Karupu "Old serial" , the MohanRam [ The KumaraGuru-editor in CR]

I think YG will become agathian as he is doing the research about the Nadi.

1. The Beggar - Vashishtar
2. The Tea Samiyar- to whom the Beggar seems to talk through coconut can be Vishwamithrar
3. AGasthiar -> YG Mahendran.
From: kathir on Sun Aug 21 23:08:10 2005. [Full View]

thank you so much for the updates

...kathir

From: ts on Mon Aug 22 4:09:01 2005.

karthik_rcs wrote:

The Beggar who was staying outside Akash house has written.
"Ennodu ini moovar kadaseeyil agathian"

I think Agathian will be the Y.G mahendran. In Vidathu Karupu "Old serial" , the MohanRam [ The KumaraGuru-editor in CR]

I think YG will become agathian as he is doing the research about the Nadi.

1. The Beggar - Vashishtar
2. The Tea Samiyar- to whom the Beggar seems to talk through coconut can be Vishwamithrar
3. AGasthiar -> YG Mahendran.

Good point. But in Vidadhu karuppu, they die after their task is completed... i guess they attain "siddhi" in his serial.

From: detective on Mon Aug 22 11:22:24 2005.

karthik_rcs wrote:

The Beggar who was staying outside Akash house has written.
"Ennodu ini moovar kadaseeyil agathian"

I think Agathian will be the Y.G mahendran. In Vidathu Karupu "Old serial" , the MohanRam [ The KumaraGuru-editor in CR]

I think YG will become agathian as he is doing the research about the Nadi.

1. The Beggar - Vashishtar
2. The Tea Samiyar- to whom the Beggar seems to talk through coconut can be Vishwamithrar
3. AGasthiar -> YG Mahendran.

Good point. But in Vidadhu karuppu, they die after their task is completed... i guess they attain "siddhi" in his serial.

I don't understand what you guys are trying to say. Can you please clarify??

From: ts on Mon Aug 22 11:39:17 2005. [Full View]

detective wrote:

I don't understand what you guys are trying to say. Can you please clarify??

In Vidadhu Karuppu, Mohan Ram is a Siddhar, who carries a diary and a few messages across with him. He gets them from another person he meets in the bus who dies after handing over the details to him. Same thing happens to Mohan Ram as well. He dies instantly after his task is done.

In this serial, in a similar manner, Dumb man is the first siddhar, Tea samiyar is the second siddhar and the third one could be YGM (when the words of Dumb one comes true).

It has been foretold that YGM will not meet his daughter again. I think he will become a siddar and leave home.

From: aanaa on Mon Aug 22 20:29:12 2005.

In this serial, in a similar manner, Dumb man is the first siddhar, Tea samiyar is the second siddhar and the third one could be YGM (when the words of Dumb one comes true).

It has been foretold that YGM will not meet his daughter again. I think he will become a siddar and leave home.

its too bad YGM is not going to see her daughter again

Sad

From: rajeshmlal on Thu Aug 25 9:04:44 2005. [Full View]

Can any one update the last episode.?
From: aanaa on Thu Aug 25 20:02:48 2005. [Full View]

rajeshmlal wrote:

Can any one update the last episode.?

expecting the last wednesday's Aug 24 05 update plz
From: Cinefan on Mon Aug 29 7:23:41 2005. [Full View]

Why no updates?I missed Wednesday's episode&was looking forward to read what happened here?

ts,detective-where art thou?
From: detective on Mon Aug 29 11:26:17 2005. [Full View]

Cinefan wrote:

Why no updates?I missed Wednesday's episode&was looking forward to read what happened here?

ts,detective-where art thou?

I am surprsied you guys were able to get into the website. I was not until Monday, 29th Aug. Will post the update soon
From: detective on Mon Aug 29 11:52:18 2005. [Full View]

Grandma goes to the temple and Mani/Akash get into their act. They want the asst to go for tea. He sighs and comments that they were taking too much time to read one suvadi, but leaves nevertheless.

Akash wants to know about the previous birth of Somu and Mani reads it. Apparently, Somu cheated on a girl in his previous birth and the girl died a sick women. So in this birth, he is destined to marry a sick girl. Moreover, Somu will face some treason in this birth from people he trusts. But once the mystery starts unwinding, he will solve it in 15 days. The suvadi also says Somu will see Agathiyan in the process. Akash is surprised to hear this and tries to connect it to the beggar's writing.

Thillai is reading the write-up of a few naadis. He spots something and starts calling the people whom he requested to get their naadi jOsiyam. They all show up. YG tells them that there is a phrase in the write-up of all these people, which says something like they will be responsible for the death of 14 people. He asks them, rather hesitantly, were they ever caused the death of 14 people. Sivakami looks at Thillai as if he is a nut, but they guys start talking one by one.

All of them were indirectly linked to a train accident that happened the previous day, killing 14 people. One of them is related to the driver who drove the train, one to the guy who incorrectly gave the green signal and so on. Thillai is impressed with his findings and tells Sivakami that his belief in naadi is vindicated....

thodarum
From: detective on Mon Aug 29 11:55:53 2005. [Full View]

detective wrote:

Grandma goes to the temple and Mani/Akash get into their act..... Thillai is impressed with his findings and tells Sivakami that his belief in naadi is vindicated....

The episode seems too short. This is because the previous birth of Somu is explained in great detail. Also, the people indirectly responsible for the accident narrate their stories. I did not elaborate on them.

This is a clear sign of Naaga buying some time to extend the life of the serial and make hay while the ratings are good. It was a pointless episode.
From: dsankaran on Mon Aug 29 14:11:04 2005. [Full View]

Thanks Detective.
From: aanaa on Mon Aug 29 19:47:44 2005. [Full View]

detective wrote:

Grandma

thodarum

thank u
From: aanaa on Mon Aug 29 19:51:20 2005. [Full View]

detective wrote:

This is a clear sign of Naaga buying some time to extend the life of the serial and make hay while the ratings are good. It was a pointless episode.

closer to the end (serial ) evey director buys time ???
or sudden closure
From: ts on Thu Sep 1 4:47:19 2005. [Full View]

Akash keeps trying Somu's number but doesnt get connected. Granny brings him coffee and giggles at him. He asks for the reason and she tells him that she was thinking of Abirami and the questions she asks and was chuckling about them. She tells Akash that Abirami had been asking many questions about akash's great grandad and wants to be sure that Akash doesnt end up like him. Akash gets nervous upon hearing that. He tells granny that its because that she scared them that Abirami is acting like that. Granny tells him that he does not have any idea about what had happened to him and the state of the family and goes on speaking about someone who Akash's dad was to marry but called off the wedding and left for the US. This lady never married anyone and was suffering from Leukemia.

Akash writes "Leukemia" in a paper and underneath writes "Immune Deficiency" and circles around the first letters.. which is LI. He then visualises what the beggar had written..."Thillai enbadhu LIyin ethirmarai...."

Mukilan is watering the plants and Padma is with him. Mukilan shows padma a plant and tells him that it is effective in treatign "vettai" (Aids) and starts to sing a song. Padma joins in and sings with him. Vishnu gets interested comes nearby. Thulasi joins them and finishes the song. Vishnu asks them what that plat is for. Padma tries to explain but the editor cuts him off and asks him to go and fetch Somu, who was seen near Reddiar's factory by someone. Padma rushes to the factory.

At the factory, the security chucks Somu out of the factory and tells him that Sekar is not there. He tells Somu that Sekar is on duty at the "madam's" house. Somu get the directions from him. Padma arrives there and forces Somu togo with him to the farm house.

At the farm house, Editor gets very edgy upon seeing somu. He asks him if he thought the editor would not save him and gets very angry. Vishnu intervenes and the editor asks him to shut up in a rude way. Thulasi intervenes and the editor apologises to Vishnu and tells him to stay away from the matter. He tells somu that it is for the police to find the scarman and not for somu to put himself at risk. He asks the maid to prepare lunch for Somu. Somu has lunch and the editor asks him about his mobile. Somu tells him that the battery was down. Editor asks Padma to bring his charger. Somu takes it and charges his phone and just then gets a call. Akash is excited that the phone is ringing. Somu tells the editor that he had not given the number to anyone and answers. Akash introduces him as a friend and tells somu that he is in grave danger and asks him if he can get his thumb impression. Somu is angry and asks who is it on the other side when the connection dies.

Editor asks somu to take rest and asks everyoen to have lunch. When they go inside, he sneaks into Somu's phone and looks out for the number that just called. Vishnu notices him doing that and gets suspicious.

Akash is in the backyard, trying Somu's number when Granny brings coffee. She thinks he is in his room and looks inside. He is not there but she sees part of an olai chuvadi kattu in the bed. Akash comes there and notices the granny seeing something. He hides the chuvadi from her. Granny goes inside the kitchen and looks into the barn for the olai chuvadi and finds it. She is puzzled at the chuvadis that Akash has with him...

Its 4 am and somu wakes up and sneaks out. He tries to go outside when Vishnu finds him. Somu tells him that he couldnt sleep. Vishnu asks him if he knew anything about Mukilan and his sidda medicine. Somu says he doesnt know about them. Editor comes out and asks somu if he was trying to escape. Somu tells him that he wanted to go and speak to Sekar and the editor gets furious. He shouts at somu and tells him not to leave the farm. Vishnu tries to pacify them. He reminds that editor that he wanted to give Somu to the police, which was the safe place for somu and asks him why he was not doing it. Editor gets very angry at Vishnu and asks him to shut up and mind his business. Vishnu is stunned. Thulasi comes to the scene and Editor hides his anger and asks them to go to bed. He tells Mukilan that Somu is his responsibility and must not leave the farm at any cost... Vishnu gets really suspicious ....thodarum...
From: kathir on Thu Sep 1 23:28:29 2005. [Full View]

thank you TS..

,,,kathir
From: ts on Thu Sep 8 4:54:01 2005. [Full View]

Update from last night...

Shiva(Madhavan) arrives in the city to attend an interview and stays with his sister and her husband. Owing to some comments he made at their engagement, the relationship between Shiva and his brother-in-law has always been thorny but they manage to get by under the same roof anyway. Shiva falls in love with Priya, whose brother is a rowdy who has no hesitation chopping off the hand of any guy who dares to give his sister a love letter. Priya, for this reason, warns Shiva to keep away from her but he remains persistent. Meanwhile, her brother gets an unexpected response when he sends his goons to teach Shiva a lesson that will keep him away from Priya.....
From: Cinefan on Thu Sep 8 8:30:23 2005. [Full View]

ts
From: kathir on Fri Sep 9 1:14:33 2005. [Full View]

Dear TS

if im not mistaken that is "RUN"' film synopsis..
did i miss anything here...

...kathir
From: ts on Fri Sep 9 4:06:30 2005. [Full View]

...oooops.....Vinayaka Chaturthi special movie "Run" replaced Wednesday's programs...(manaivi was not affected though...)
From: kathir on Fri Sep 9 4:50:28 2005. [Full View]

oh okay i got it

...kathir
From: Mini on Fri Sep 9 13:45:30 2005. [Full View]

i dint know what this was and i was surprised to c something which was totally irrelevant. i thought may b i was mistaken and had missed out something in the earlier posts
From: detective on Mon Sep 12 19:22:03 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

...oooops.....Vinayaka Chaturthi special movie "Run" replaced Wednesday's programs...(manaivi was not affected though...)

I was out of town and I thought I missed the episode. I came here to read the updates and was caught off guard.

Good one, though.
From: aanaa on Mon Sep 12 23:26:19 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Akash

....thodarum...

thank
From: aanaa on Mon Sep 12 23:30:56 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Update from last night...

Shiva(Madhavan)

.....

thanks for keep updating
From: ts on Thu Sep 15 4:21:34 2005. [Full View]

Sorry guys. Didnt (couldnt) watch it yesterday. Have recorded it though. Could someone (detective) please post the update. If not, i shall post it sometime during the weekend, after i have watched the recording.
From: priyajoyson on Thu Sep 15 5:59:37 2005. [Full View]

That was a very cool one. I was thinking whether I missed out some interesting things in the episode and i was really confused.

But now I get the point. That was funny!!!

By the way guys, why is the editor so edgy and jumpy. Sounds suspicious? So who is going to break the ice wall here?

1. Is it going to be 1. Somu
2. Vishnu or
3. Akash
or all three brains put together.

2. Who is going to be the bad guy???

3. Is this serial based on any real research that has some solid grounds to prove that siddha medicine does have effect on general immunity Or is it just a fiction without any reality?

4. Is there any real orientation between Astrology and Medicine ? I have read that It is possible to predict about a person's future with the help of the birth time and palm creases. But if that is the case for each second they are about 27 babies born all over the world, Do they all have the same fate and future?

I know the last question is a bit off topic but can anyone who knows a bit of astrology enlighten me regarding this?
From: detective on Thu Sep 15 11:42:25 2005. [Full View]

SI Kandhan returns the suvadi's taken from the farmhouse to AC Aadiyapaadham. All the suvadis were dated to about a 100 years ago, and they are all about siddha medicene. They talk about a concoction for AIDS cure, but keep one ingredient secret. The SI also says that the police watchers suspect Somu's presence in the farmhouse. AC is thrilled, and he wants the police to follow Somu as he may lead them to the killers. AC also says that a career oriented guy like Somu, from a respectable family, will not indulge in planned killing.

Since Sivakami had called the AC's office many times, inquiring about Aarthi, the AC decides to go to Aarthi's house, with the SI, and give them an update. There, they meet Dr.Thillai poring over manuscripts of naadi jOsiyam. After talking to them for a while, they are about to leave, when Dr.Thillai asks for their names. After learning their names, he says he is not interested in those names. AC gets inquisitive and asks about the significance of the names. Sivakami tells him that the Dr is after 12 guys for their suvadis.

AC is really curious asks the Dr for the 12 names. When he sees the list, he is shocked. He also learns that this list was in Aarthi's suvadi. He then tells the Dr. that all these guys have been killed and the Dr has been bothering wrong people. He also says that their family friend Somu was around these killings and is the prime suspect. Dr is surprised to know this.

AC leaves with the SI and Aarthi's suvadi, and Dr comes out to see them off. He requests the AC to not reveal Aarthi's AIDS infection to Sivakami. AC is shocked to learn Aarthi has AIDS, but Dr is confident that the suvadi's of the 12 dead guys will tell them about the cure. AC is surprised at the Dr's belief in naadi jOsiyam.

Back at the farmhouse, Somu wants to go for a walk and the Editor reluctantly agrees, but sends Padma with him. Padma says Somu cannot leave the farmhouse boundaries, but Somu proceeds further. Padma repeatedly requests him to stop but Somu will not listen. They are then accosted by a bunch of thugs, who seem to to have been waiting outside the farmhouse for a chance, and both get beaten up. The guys then leave Padma, shove Somu into their car, and leave...........
From: aanaa on Thu Sep 15 15:02:34 2005. [Full View]

detective wrote:

SI Kandhan returns the suvadi's taken from the farmhouse to AC

, and leave...........

thank u for the prpmpt update
From: karthik_rcs on Fri Sep 16 12:53:01 2005. [Full View]

Hello friends
You might have noticed. But just wanted to say something

When the Serial begins, we have title displayed with graphics displaying letters of tamil and english over the thumb prints.

IF YOU ASSEMBLE ALL THE LETTERS U GET

Thillai Enbathu LI ethirmarai..

WATCH OUT FRIENDS. there is something more in this sentence.
I have serious suspicision on the ABIRAMI'S FATHER WHO ALONE knows to read the old volai chuvadi.

The Archaelogy dept person said, we need old persons to read this as the fonts are not of present age tamil stuffs...

THINK
From: ts on Thu Sep 22 4:55:18 2005. [Full View]

Somu is unconscious with his legs and hands tied. The men, who kidnapped him, take his thumb impression and leave the room.

Padma limps back to the farm and mukilan sees him and brings him to the house. Padma tells them about what had happened and the editor is very furious. He asks Padma to rest and asks the maid to bring some medication. Meanwhile, Vishnu tries to call the police, and the editor gets agitated. He shuts the phone down and yells at Vishnu. Thulasi intervenes but the editor doesn�t listen to her this time. She goes into shock, grabs a knife and tries to cut herself. The editor sees this and tries to pacify her and apologises to her but she doesn�t listen to him. Vishnu asks her to stop and she stops immediately. He tells her that it was only daddy who scolded him and takes her away. The editor is surprised and shocked to see this.

Granny is in the kitchen and she checks up on the duplicate nadi once again. She takes it to Akash�s room and looks around and finds the original nadi in his bag. She brings them both to Mani, who is with a client at the thinnai. When the client leaves, Mani asks Granny where Akash is and she tells him that he has gone to Tiruvarur with Abirami. She gives mani the duplicate nadi and asks him to read it for her. She tells him that it is a second nadi that her FIL had with him. Mani�s assistant leaves upon seeing the nadi. Mani realises that it is the duplicate nadi and fumbles .She asks him to tell her the truth. Mani could not lie to her and tells her that Akash had asked him to make a duplicate and he is sorry that he had to hide this from her. Granny takes both nadis inside and Mani follows her. She is so upset that she collapses and mani runs inside and brings her some water. She tells him that she treats him as her own son and asks him how he could do it to her. Mani is very apologetic. Granny asks him not to read the nadi to Akash any more and takes it as a promise. She asks him to keep the duplicate in Akash�s bag but couldnt find out which one is the duplicate one. Mani reads one nadi and tells her that it is of someone by name �Swaminathan� or �kumaraguru� and that is the duplicate one.
He places it inside Akash�s bag. Granny asks him not to tell Akash that he has the duplicate nadi.

Somu wakes up and tries to free himself but the rope is too tight. Just then a butterfly/moth, flying around the light bulb, drops dead as it touches the hot bulb. Somu tries the bulb on his ropes and manages to burn it down and untie. He tries to open the door but it is locked from the other side. He sees his thumb doused in ink and gets petrified. His mobile starts to ring and it is the editor. He cries to the editor and tells him that his thumb impression has been taken and that he is afraid he will die. Editor pacifies him and tells him that that will not happen. Somu tells him that he has been held captive at some unknown place. The editor asks him to put his phone on silent mode and not to venture anywhere and that he will find him eventually.

Somu�s phone rings again and it is akash this time. Akash tells Somu that Somu is in danger for the next week and wants his thumb impression. He tells Somu that he is a friend and wants to help and will give more details when they meet. Somu sees someone coming and switches off the phone and hides behind the door. When the man opens the door, somu hits him with a log and escapes the room. It seems to be a old school or something like that, similar to where they kept Arthi. Somu reaches the front door but it is guarded� thodarum�
From: kathir on Thu Sep 22 5:22:29 2005. [Full View]

thank you TS..

i dont know that you can burn a rope with hot bulb....
maybe can...

...kathir
From: ts on Thu Sep 22 6:03:11 2005. [Full View]

kathir wrote:

thank you TS..

i dont know that you can burn a rope with hot bulb....
maybe can...

...kathir

Yes you can! Somu demonstrated it yesterday.
From: aanaa on Thu Sep 22 8:30:19 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Somu is unconscious with his legs ......

thank u 4 the update
From: thyagu_delli on Thu Sep 29 1:10:17 2005. [Full View]

Thanks for the update

-thyagu_delli.
From: JOTHI1010 on Thu Sep 29 2:05:16 2005. [Full View]

Thanks for the update...

Jothi
From: ts on Thu Sep 29 4:37:36 2005. [Full View]

Somu sees a man guarding at the front door and tries to go to the other side. He sees someone coming down the stairs and hides inside a nearby room. Dr. Mangaiyarkarasi and another man walk down the stairs. Mangai tells the man not to be hard on Somu and not to give him chloroform when he wakes up. She asks him to give Somu some food and take care of him and leaves in her car. Somu sees Arthi in the bed inside the room he is hiding and goes to her. She can see him but is totally immobile. He tries to carry her out but decides it is not a good idea and leaves without her. Meanwhile, the men in the building realise that Somu has escaped and search for him. Somu escapes thru the side gate where he sees a sign board "TK Pharma" and comes to a road. He sees a public call centre and goes there. He ask the man there about that place and calls the police. He is put thru to AC Adiyapatham. Somu tells him that Arthi is being held at TK Pharma premises in between Singaperumal Koil and Kanchipuram. AC realises that it is Somu who is calling but Somu disconnects.

Somu then calls Akash's number and asks him how he knew about Somu being in trouble. Akash tells him that he has something that belonged to Somu and tells him that they have to meet. He tells Somu that he also knew Arthi was suffering from Aids and Somu is shattered upon hearing this. He puts the phone down and leaves the place. Akash tries to call the number but the shop guy tells him that Somu had left. Akash asks for details about the location.

Akash is restless... granny is sleeping at the swing and she is restless too. She seems to have overheard the conversation and is worried. Next morning he asks the granny if she was going to the temple. She tells him that she had already been there. They hear someone crying at the door and go there. It is little somu's mum and she is blaming Mani for the death of her son. Granny takes her away and mani tells Akash that he is very upset and wants to go elsewhere. Akash consoles him and comments that he will have no body to read the nadi if Mani leaves... Mani tells him that it is because of the nadi that he is facing all these problems and tells Akash that he will never read it again. Akash tells him that in that case, he will take it to someone else for reading. Mani tells Akash that no nadi josiyar will read the nadi as it doesnt belong to Akash. Akash tells him that he will read it himself and goes inside.

The police are at the old building and it seems the group had left. They see arthis bed and the medicines around and AC asks his men to send them for examination. He finds the broken rope from where Somu was kept and some blood on the floor. AC is frustrated and tells his men that he is very embarassed. He asks his men to keep watch on all old, unused buildings in the area and to run a scan on TK Pharma and its owners.

Reddiar's wife is looking at company accounts at her house and Sekar is doing the household chores. Somu is outside the house and calls Reddiar's number from his mobile. Reddiar's wife asks Sekar to attend to the phone. Sekar picks the phone and Somu asks him how much money he took to kill Reddiar and to take his thumb impression. Sekar is petrified and shouts at the phone.... thodarum...
From: aanaa on Fri Sep 30 19:56:35 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Somu sees a man guarding

thodarum...

thank u
From: evolution on Sun Oct 2 8:00:25 2005. [Full View]

Hey what do you guys think of Devadarshini's performance in Chidambaram. This woman is quite amazing for the varied roles she portrays. but its been a difficult start for her in this serial as she had to make us accept her in Anni Malavika's shoes. But i think she is getting along fine. What do you devoted fans think?

The last episode with YG's daughter being seen by Somu was very engaging. But the little boy in the last scene asking his mother for pocket money was conny. Expect better touch from dir Naga.
From: kathir on Mon Oct 3 2:33:16 2005. [Full View]

thank you so much TS

...kathir
From: ts on Thu Oct 6 6:10:23 2005. [Full View]

Somu tells sekar that if he doesnt come out to the gate in two minutes, the matter will be taken with the police. Sekar is scared and he tells reddiar's 'wife' that it was his friend playing a prank and comes outside. Reddiar's 'wife' suspects something and follows him.

Sekar peeps outside but there is nobody there. He cloes the main gate and turns inside, and Somu is right behind him. Somu asks him for the truth and Sekar tries to evade him. Somu pushes him to the ground and threatens to kill him. Sekar tells him that he doesnt know anything about Reddiar's death and that reddiar trusted him very much and that he was a good servant. Somu asks him about the scar man. Sekar tells him that the lady in the house is not reddiar's wife but his concubine and that he had come here once with reddiar. The lady had been asking reddiar to transfer some property on her name and reddiar used to play pranks with her. That day, someone had come to fix the AC machine. Sekar was asking reddiar for some money but reddiar turned a deaf ear to it. He tells Somu that the AC mechanic had approached Sekar and promised to get Sekar some money and then introduced the scar man to him. It seems the mechanic was somehow associated with Akash's firm.

Somu recollects seeing a guy at the scene of Ismail's death. Sekar tells Somu that he had come to the house to inform the lady of Reddiar's death. The lady was so angry that reddiar had died without doing anything for her. She threw a few stamp papers that had reddiar's thumb impression, citing them that they were invalid as they had the impression from the right thumb and only the left thumb impression validates a document. Sekar tells Somu that he knicked one of those sheets so that he can give it to the scar man. The scar man was waiting outside, who took the stamp paper for cash. Somu doesnt buy the story and threatens to kill sekar when he hears someone crying. It is the lady and she confirms whatever Sekar has said about the stamp paper and tells Somu that reddiar had already prepared his will to give the factory and the house to the lady. Somu recollects his meeting with Reddiar near the factory and seeing ink at reddiar's right thumb. He seems convinced with the story and leaves.

Akash is getting ready to go somewhere. Granny asks him about it and he tells her that there is some official work and he has to go for a few days. She doesnt say anything and Akash is surprised at her silence as she usually stops him from leaving. He asks her about it and she says that she is confident that he will return. Granny notices that he is a bit cold towards mani and asks Mani about it after Akash leaves. Mani tells her that it is because that he refused to read the nadi. He tells granny that he is afraid about Akash reading the nadi. Granny tells him that the nadi has old "vattezuthu" and Akash doesnt have a clue about it. Mani tells her that the original is vattezhuthu but the duplicate is common tamil as it was made by Anbarasu. In that case, granny tells Mani, Akash will return....and we shall face it then...

Mukilan removes padma's bandage and tells him that he will be perfect in a week. Padma thanks mukilan and mukilan says he knew padma since he was a kid as his dad was the editor's driver and tell him that he
need not thank him.

Vishnu is angry that the editor is doing nothing to trace Somu. Editor is angry at Vishnu for his actions. Vishnu tells the editor that he is going to call the police. Editor tells him to go-ahead. Vishnu says that he will tell AC Adiyapatham about the call that somu got from Akash asking for his thumb impression and eventually somu's impression was taken, the editor noting Akash's number but doing nothing about it and the fact that
the editor sent mukilan away when the AC visited them. Editor gets up, gives his mobile to Vishnu asks him to call the AC and leaves with anger.....thodarum
From: vekala on Thu Oct 6 16:43:37 2005. [Full View]

Wow! Thanks for the update TS!!!
From: aanaa on Thu Oct 6 19:48:21 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Somu tells sekar that

thodarum

thank u for the quick update
From: JOTHI1010 on Thu Oct 6 22:12:50 2005. [Full View]

Thanks for the update....
From: kathir on Fri Oct 7 2:20:13 2005. [Full View]

tq tq tq TS
for the detailed updates

,,kathir
From: detective on Thu Oct 13 11:40:15 2005. [Full View]

Before someone plays a prank, there was no episode of CR on 19th Oct 2005. Vijaya Dhasami special 'Giri' took that slot. Apologies to those who were really planning on some mischief
From: ssanjinika on Wed Oct 19 10:32:48 2005. [Full View]

All festivals falling on Wednesdays and the only interesting serial getting cut !!Noticed that they didnt have any problem playing Selvi
From: ts on Wed Oct 19 17:30:49 2005. [Full View]

Editor asks Vishnu to call the police. Vishnu tells him that he doesnt understand him. Editor tells him that he is not afraid. The reason he budges whenever Thulasi gets wild is because he ahs a phobia to blood and cannot see anyone bleeding. He tells vishnu that this added to the affection he has for his daughter makes him do things the way he does. Vishnu tells him that perhaps thats why none of the murders are ghory and are done by using lethal injections. He hands over the phone to the editoe and tells him that he already has the AC's phone number.

The AC's assistant comes to him with details of TK pharma. He tells the AC that TK pharama is reddiar's company. AC is surprised. He asks his asst if Reddiar's factory is TC (Telengana Chemicals)? Asst tells him that TK stands for Tiruttani Kalaivani who is Reddiar' s second wife and she has control over his factories now. AC tells him that he has to interrogate her.

Akash is in his company guest house and calls SOmu from there. Somu respods but asks him not to bother him. Akash looks out of the balcony and sees somu in the street. He asks his servent boy to go after Somu and rushes inside to dress up and goes after somu.

Padma tells the editor that he will seek and bring somu back and leaves. Thulasi asks mukilan if he found the missing herb to cure the disease. Mukilan tells her that he will come straight to her if he finds the "rahasiyam". Vishnu asks her as to what the disease is about and she replies it is about AIDS - advanced stage.

Somu comes near a local shop and sees the AC mechanic there. Akash finds somu as well but before Akash could stop him, somu enters the shop and pulls down the shutter. He threatens the AC mechanic with a screw driver and asks him to tell the truth. The mechanic tells somu that he didnt murder Ismail but had gone to his office to repair the AC. There, he adds, he saw a female employee and Ismail close together. He says that he told ismail that he will come back the next day with the parts and at the parking area, he met the security guy from the met office. Somu recollects seeing this guy at the scene of Manoharan's murder. The mechanic tells him that he had introduced the scar man and they were after Ismail's thumb impression. The next day when the mechanic went to Ismail's office, the lady employee was fighting with Ismail and had injured him in th neck. The mechanic tells somu that he had fitted the AC and asked Ismail for his thumb impression else he will tell others about the affair/fight ismail had with the lady. Ismail throws him out. The mechainc tells somu that he had seen Somu arrive and them going to the mechanic etc. When Ismail had gone to the toilet, he says that he forced Ismail to give his thumb impression, and that Ismail fell flat in the toilet. He tells Somu that he didnt do anything that would kill ismail. He tells somu that the scar man had come to him just when the police were at the scene and took the thumb impression from im for money. Somu tells hm that he will be back after confirming the details.

When somu comes out, Akash calls him. Somu tells him that he doesnt know Akash and doesnt want to talk to him. Akash tells Somu that he is a friend and he has something that belongs to Somu with him. Somu stops and realises that Akash is the person who called him.....thodarum
From: kathir on Thu Oct 20 4:56:02 2005. [Full View]

THANK YOU TS...

really appreciate it

...kathir
From: aanaa on Thu Oct 20 8:47:24 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

.....thodarum

thank u
From: vekala on Thu Oct 27 11:44:42 2005. [Full View]

Scene 1:
The Police interrgoates the Reddiar's wife abt the TK pharma. She says she is not his wife but his keep. she tells them that the reddiar was a good guy...but she had mis understood him and kept fighting with him...even the day of his death. But later she found that he had written some properties on her name.
The Police Commisioner shows her the registration copy of TK pharma...but She swears that she knows nothing abt it. She tells them that even the lawyer who handles her the property did not mention anything abt this. She asks for the original copy of this doc...but the commisioner says he does not know. They just collected this from the registration office.She is then let to go.
The commisioner asks the inspector to find out the original document. He guesses that either Reddiar should have it in some locker and must have forgotten OR He must have used this lady as a "pinamy' to buy property for someone else!

Scene 2:
Akash brings Somu to his room....but the nervous Somu just wants to leave the place soon and Akash manages to make him listen to him. He tells him that he has Somu's "ollaey chuvadi". Somu doubts Akash whether he is behind all this murders so as to get Somu's thumb print. Akash convinces him that if in that case why should he bring him now to give the chuvadi.
He urges Somu to read the chuvadi and to know the future. He tells him that whatever has happened so far is clearly given in the chuvadi....so if he reads the future he can safe guard himself. But Somu says he does not believe in Nadi josiyum any more.

He also asks Akash, y he is so interested in all this. Akash then tells him that when in US he has done a reserach with the Thumb prints and have analysed a certain pattern with similar thumb prints. Like the persons who had a certain pattern where all divorcee and another group of persons with similar prints didn't stay in a job for long and so on....
But when he shared this with his collegues they had mocked at him. Then he had to come to India..where he came across the Nadi josiyum where again the same thumb print is used. So Somu is a CASE STUDY for hiim now to prove his theory.
Somu gets angry on listening to this..and asks Akash whether he is gunea pig for his research. Akash tries to convince him that he also has some care for Somu. Akash again requests Somu to read the nadi..but when Somu refuses again...he pleads him to atleast do a parigaram on the coming "pournami" . He asks himto write the name of Lord Nataraja in Chracoal and to erase it. Somu recalls of already doing that!
On knowing that Somu has already done that ..Akash gets excited and tries to show Somu that the parigaram is given in the chuvadi...but he discovers that what he has is the duplicate chuvadi. The frustrated Somu is abt to leave...but Akash asks him to hang on as he has one more thing of Somu's. He hurries inside to take an envelope from his bag ....but Somu leaves the place.

Scene 3:
Somu meets the office boy in Manohars's office and asks him why he murdered manohar. The office boys refueses it and tells him what actually happend

He tells that he wanted 20k very urgently for his sister's engagement. One day as usual while gining an injection to manohar (for some pain)...he asks him to lend 20k . But Manohar asks him to give the jewels in turn and finally refuses to give the money. The office boy sits very worriedlty oustside his house...A muslim guy ( a local dada) comes to help him and asks him to take the thumb print of his boss and that he wld fetch him 20k.
Somu then interferes and says that he must have then been taken to the scar guy..the office boy says yes. Somu asks him to proceed and tell him what happened on the day of death.
The office boy tells that as ususal he went inside to give injection to Manohar..but he was scolding some guy...and asked him to come afterwards.
That's actually Anbarasu....Manohar asks him to give the due amt or else to leave his wife to him...Anbarasu leaves the place morrachifying Manohar

Thodarum...
From: kathir on Fri Oct 28 4:18:44 2005. [Full View]

Thanks you so much vekala

AND

Enathu Ithayam Kanitha Deepavali Valthukal ungalukum ungal
kudumbathinarukum

,,,,kathir
From: vekala on Fri Oct 28 9:12:55 2005. [Full View]

Thanks for the wishes Kathir and wish u the same.

Wish all the hubbers a very very happy Deepavali!!!
From: svasu_ani on Fri Oct 28 11:43:37 2005. [Full View]

This time diwali is on tuesday and chidambara rahasiyam will not be missed
From: ts on Thu Nov 3 5:47:58 2005. [Full View]

The office boy tells Somu that Manohar was sleeping when he had returned and he used the opportunity to take Manohar's thumb impression. Later, When he walked into the room with Somu they found manohar dead. He says that the scar man had met him in the street after some time and taken the finger print from him. Somu asks him to take him to the dada's house. Just then they hear someone knocking the door. Somu asks him to open it and hides inside the house. It is padma outside and he finds somu. He tells somu that he had been following somu's trail and finally got to him. Somu refuses to go with him until he knows everything about the murders. They take the office boy to the Dada's house.

Mani's business is doing well. Granny brings some butter milk for his customers who are waiting at the thinnai and tells him that she is really happy to see him busy. Mani finishes with one customer and just then Akash arrives. Granny welcomes him and asks him if all went well. Akash goes inside. The customer that mani had just finished with, calls someone and tells them that the person has arrived ... he has a picture of Akash with him...

The dada's house is locked and a neighbour tells them that the dada had gone to Guduvanchery to attend a wedding. The trio leave for Guduvanchery. While they are there, the office boy shows them the dada and runs away, fearing that the dada would hurt him, should he be seen with Somu. The Dada is walking with his doctor friend. They are about to get to the bus station and the dada tells his friend that he will be back in a few minutes and goes to a secluded place to relieve himself. Somu and padma catch him unawares and Somu beats the crap out of him. The dada confesses to have agreed to kill Natesa Sharma for money. He tells somu that he couldnt do it as Sharma was out of station and the person who wanted to kill Sharma didnt want that to happen.

Meanwhile, the doctor comes there looking for the dada and sees him in a pool of blood. Somu sees him and recollects that it is the doctor he saw at Keezhambur Ponnambalam's house when ponnambalam died. Mohan (doctor) sees somu and runs away. Somu tells them that he knows exactly where to find Mohan and continues with the dada.

Dada tells somu that Mohan (the doctor) had approached him and asked him to get Sharma's thumb impression insteadof killing him. The dada overhears Sharma boasting to his neighbours about the interview with the Neithal magazine and hatches a plan. Mohan gives him a syringe with some medicine that would make Sharma immobile so that he can easily take the thumb impression. The Dada goes Sharma's house as a reporter and uses the syringe and does his job. He tells somu that he didnt kill Sharma but got very scared when he saw Sharma fall down from his apartment...thodarum...
From: rein on Thu Nov 3 10:02:13 2005. [Full View]

Hi guys, I'm new to this forum, but I must say I absolutely LOVE you updates they are absolutely AMAZING. We get the casettes and seriously they come like once a month.

Everyone is doing an excellent job!
And I love this thriller, its just so cool... my two cents maybe its Mukunthan and (Devadarshini's) husband who are in coherts.
Mukunthan wants to help find a cure, after all, he started her on this path right, and her ex-husband, wants to find fame in science, so he could be the wealthy backer.

I don't it's just my two cents, but do let me know what you think!
From: aanaa on Thu Nov 3 16:17:24 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

...thodarum...

thank u for the quick update

looks like going to end soos
From: kathir on Mon Nov 7 3:07:31 2005. [Full View]

thank you TS

...kathir
From: ts on Thu Nov 10 6:02:41 2005. [Full View]

Somu asks the dada what happened next. The dada tells him that he left the premises in a hurry. Somu asks him about the guy who hired him in the first place to kill Natesa Sharma. Dada tells him that it was another Journalist but he was a wimp. Somu lets him go and heads off to see MOhan. Padma stops him and asks him to contact the editor. Somu tells Padma that he will not do that until he clears his name off and that he is so close to unravelling the truth.

Mohan comes home and urges his wife to pack things up so that they can go to her parents. He tells her that the police could be after him and he wants to rush. They leave the house in a hurry.

Akash is restless and is searching his room. Granny asks him what he is looking for. He tells her that it is a book that he is after. Granny knows what he is up to and tell shim that may be Abirami has it. After she goes to sleep, Akash sneaks into the kitchen and looks for the chuvadi there. He finds only the cloth bag in which it was kept but not the chuvadi. He comes out frustrated. Granny is happy that she has kept it away from him.

YGM is doing some research with the jadagams again. His wife asks him to take rest. He tells her that he has to leave for chidambaram as Arthi's nadi tells that the "Audatham" will reveal itself at the thillai. SHe is furious at thim and makes him promise that he will not go anywhere. She asks Archana to give him some milk. YGM sneaks into the kitchen and has some milk. He drops a couple of sleeping pills in the milk and comes outside. Archana and Sivakami have the milk and go to sleep. YGM leaves the house at night. Outside, he is greeted by the Tea Samiyar. The Samiyar gives him a cane (his walking stick) and a kottankutchi and tells him that he will need them. He tells YGM that he will look after the house.

Granny is off to the temple. She knows that Akash is restless and warns Mani about him. She tells Mani not to reveal anything about the original chuvadi to Akash. When she leaves, Akash comes to Mani and starts to ask him about the Chuvadi. Just then Mani's customer (the one who was on the phone in the last episode) comes there. He tells Mani that he forgot about where Mani wanted him to do the pariharams. Mani asks him to go to Rameswaram for the pariharam. Akash cuts him off and takes mani inside. He asks mani about the chuvadi. Mani pretends innocence but Akash is not buying the stuff. He tells mani that the original is missing and how he felt like a jack ass in front of Somu. He tells mani that he will never trust him again. Mani comes outside and the man with the phone sends an SMS to "Periyavar" that reads "nAdi kANavillai", and leaves.

Sivakami wakes up in the morning and it is 8:15 already. She rushes to Archana's room and wakes her up as she has some exams that day. She then opens the door and picks up the paper and milk sachet. Her face turns pale and drops the milk and paper in absolute shock and horror. In the driveway, she sees a wheel chair and Arthi in it......thodarum....
From: aanaa on Fri Nov 11 16:41:57 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

she sees a wheel chair and Arthi in it......thodarum....

thank u

looks like to end soon
From: ts on Thu Nov 17 5:20:56 2005. [Full View]

Sivakami realises that Arthi is just a vegetable and breaks down. Archana looks out for YGM in the house and realises that he had left for Chidambaram.

At the farm, the phone rings and Vishnu picks it up. The editor overhears the conversation. Someone passes on a message and hangs up. Vishnu tells Kumaraguru that it was about Arthi and that he didnt know who had called. Editor leaves the farm to go to see Arthi. Vishnu and Thulasi join him.

At YGM's house, Dr Mangaiyarkarasi is attending to Arthi, who seems scared to see her. Editor etal visit Arthi and Thulasi tells them that Arthi cannot talk right now but will be okay. She tells them that she was in the same condition after she injected the Aids virus to herself and the key to cure is the Rahasiyam. Sivakami breaks down after listening to this. Editor pacifies her and asks her not to listen to Thulasi. Thulasi gives Archana an origamy of a golden leaf and tells them that it will take months for Arthi to speak but she will get well eventually. Before they elave the house, editor asks Mangai to take good care of Arthi.

AC is in the conference room when he gets a phone call about Arthi. He rushes to Arthi's house with his deputies and starts enquiring about her appearance. Mangai tells him that Arthi cannot speak right now. He asks Sivakami about the exact details/ Sivakami is very upset that Arthi is infected with Aids and the AC is surprised to hear that she knows about it. He notices the paper leaf and asks Archana about it and understands that the editor had been there earlier. He goes to the farm to meet the editor. He asks the editor as to how he knew about Arthi. Editor tells him that he is a journalist and it is no surprise that he knows. AC suddenly realises something and leaves the farm. He tells the editor that he will be watching the editor. Vishnu tells the editor that he is suspicious too...

Back at his office, the editor asks his depty to go to the hospital and collect Arthi's test reports. He asks everyone else to leave the room and calls the telephone operator to come to his room. He asks her about the call they received on Arthi. The lady tells him that she got the call from Neelangarai police station and had passed it on to the conference room immediately. She tells him that he was not in the office then and that someone had taken the call. She realised that the call had not got on to the AC and hence called him again a few hours later to inform him again. AC Is stunned and asks her to leave. He realises that there is a black sheep in his team and starts to investigate.
From: evolution on Thu Nov 17 13:21:26 2005. [Full View]

thanks ts. you are doing a wonderful job with our favourite serial. The story is like no other in tamil channels. But, considering its director Naga's work, are we missing something he usually gives us???
From: kathir on Fri Nov 18 5:33:07 2005. [Full View]

thank you TS for your super duper updates,
really appreciate it

....kathir
From: aanaa on Fri Nov 18 11:45:24 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Sivakami realises that Arthi ......

thank u for the prompt update
From: JOTHI1010 on Mon Nov 21 1:34:13 2005. [Full View]

Thanks for the updates
From: aanaa on Thu Nov 24 9:39:28 2005. [Full View]

going to end soon; look likes
From: karthik_rcs on Mon Nov 28 8:16:22 2005. [Full View]

Hello TS,
what happened to the latest post of CR?

are u busy or what
From: dsankaran on Mon Nov 28 15:06:14 2005. [Full View]

Hi updaters,

Could someone please post the update for the latest episode of CR?

Thanks
D
From: vekala on Mon Nov 28 17:32:03 2005. [Full View]

Somu along with Padma goes to Dr. Mohan's house....it's locked. They keep wait ing and then they go to the doctors' father house...and Somu tells him that his son is a muderer. Mohan is found there. The father beats up Mohan and forces him to tell all the truth.

Mohan's flash back......
One day, he is treating Josiyar Keezhambur Ponnambalam( the first death) for some ulcer complaint. During their conversation the Josiyar tells the doctor that in Naadi Josiyum there are even details abt healing medicines. The scar man comes inside that moment and joins in their conversation.The doctor mocks at the Naadi josiyar and asks him why then he didn't see the naadi for himself and know the cure. The Josiyar tells him that Naadi Josiyar's shldn't read their own Naadi. The Dr then asks the Josiyar for his thumb print so that he wld get the details on behalf of the josiyar.
But Ponnambalam refuses and says that even if a crore is offered....none of the Naadi josiyar wld ever give their Thumb print!!! He then leaves the place.
The Doctor laughs at what the josiyar said. The scar man then bets the doctor Rs10,000 to get the thumb print of Keezhambur Ponnambalam.
So for bet sake the doctor takes a chance - and enters josiyar's house thru' the back door....he sees the josiyar sleeping in the swing without any movement. he quietely takes his thumb print and leaves the place immediately. Just as he enters his house a guy comes running to him and says that the Naadi josiyar is suddenly ill. Mohan hurries to josiyar house and on examining finds the josiyar dead. He is a bit confused on that!
He tells Somu that when taking the Josiyar's thumb print itself he had a slight doubt..but since he heard somebody coming he left that house immediately...and that he has nothing to do with that death.
Also the scar man gives Mohan the bet money.
Somu then enquires abt how Mohan knew the scar man.
One day when Mohan is in the clinic.. the scar man comes in with a magazine and appreciates Mohan for an article he had written abt poison. He introduces himself as a guy from TK Pharma. He then asks the doctor for the poisons he prepares, which his company wants for some research. The doctor in greed of money accepts and supplies the poisons to the scar man.
The doctor also reveals that the scar man came to him once again for the thumb print of Natesan sharma. This time the doctor demands for 20k and the scar man agrees. When the doctor goes to Natesan sharma's building, he comes across the dada. He then assigns the task to the dada and also introduces him to the scar person. He then gets 20k from the scar person and gives 10k to the dada and he takes the remaning 10k. He also gives an injection to the dada and tells him to inject it in the neck...which wld paralyse the person's face muscles for a few minutes....and then to get the thumb print.
But when he heard that this person(Natesan Sharma) also died...he got scared and stopped his association with the scar person.
Somu asks Mohan the name of the scar guy. The Doctor says that he didn't know his name. When asked one day the scar guy told the doctor to call him 'driver sir' just as he addresses him as 'doctor sir'...and from then onwards he just called him 'driver sir'.
From: vekala on Mon Nov 28 17:46:59 2005. [Full View]

In the previous episode there was a slight hint abt the "ragasiyum"(Secret)....guess that wld be the medicine for AIDS.

When the AC visits the farm house ..Tulasi holds out the origamy of a golden leaf and a red leaf....and she tells that one denotes a dried leaf and the red one denotes a fresh leaf....
she tells some poetic lines and explains that some herb which is red in color - it's tender fresh leaves and the same herb's dried leaves plus something else...(???) when mixed together wld yield the medicine. The details abt the leaf is the ragasiyum....
From: karthik_rcs on Mon Nov 28 22:01:46 2005. [Full View]

Hello vekala
gud catch.
From: aanaa on Mon Nov 28 22:40:53 2005. [Full View]

vekala wrote:

Somu along with

.

thank u
From: usha_pooja on Tue Nov 29 7:38:03 2005. [Full View]

what role does devadharshini play in this serial.

cos i saw her once in this serial n somehow she wos doin this role very well.

strange it reminded me of annamalai as that loosu role.

take care
from usha
From: SSathiya on Tue Nov 29 11:38:38 2005. [Full View]

Devadharshini plays the editors daughter , who is a scientist and injected herself with the AIDS virus. Her name is Thulasi..
From: dsankaran on Tue Nov 29 11:42:14 2005. [Full View]

Thanks for the update
From: usha_pooja on Wed Nov 30 14:19:55 2005. [Full View]

SSathiya wrote:

Devadharshini plays the editors daughter , who is a scientist and injected herself with the AIDS virus. Her name is Thulasi..

y on earth did she inject herself with da AIDS virus? strange shes a scientist in this serial but must know that she mustnt do this shame on her.

take care

usha

p.s thx sathiya 4 tellin this
From: SSathiya on Wed Nov 30 19:34:17 2005. [Full View]

I think...or the way its suppose to be perceived...is that she injected herself to see the reactions her body goes through, so that she can come up with a cure.

Thats what you call a mad scientist!
From: dsankaran on Thu Dec 1 3:34:01 2005. [Full View]

eager to know the turning points in today's episode. I'll wait for the update though.
From: ts on Thu Dec 1 6:46:07 2005. [Full View]

Padma explains to Somu that Vishnu is suspecting the editor and that SOmu has to go to the farm. Somu refuses and tells himn that he has to go to th Tamil Vadhiyar's house to see if he gets any clues there. Padma is adamant but no amount of persuation will stop Somu. While they are arguing about this, an old man in the street asks Somu for some money. he tells somu that he needs the money to get some poison so that he can die. Somu gets agitated and padma asks the man to leave. The man keeps following them and pesters Somu repeatedly. Somu gets fed up and tells him that anyone that Somu meets have been put to death and he doesnt want that to happen to the man. He explains to the man that some one is taking their thumb impression for the sake of seeking their nadi josiyam. THe man laughs at it and tells them that no josiyar will read the nadi of a dead man... but for one.... and the one does not have his nadi...Somu recollects his conversation with Anbarasu at his house. Anbarasu was telling him that no nadi josiyar will read the nadi of the deceased but he didnt believe in the sentiment and that Keezhambur Ponnambalam's nadi was taken away from him by somebody... Somu thinks about it for a minute and tells Padma that they have to go to Anbarasu.

The AC is in the conference room and Kandan, his deputy, comes with Arthi's medical reports. The reports sugges that Arthi has been infected with Aids virus but the virus spread had been arrested. AC compares it with that given in the nadi and is amazed by the coincidence. Kandan tells him that Somu was spotted near the tamil vadhiyar's house. AC seems surprised and asks Kandan to change into plain clothes so that they can go an arrest someone. Kandan leaves the room. Another deputy comes there and informs AC that the archeologist had called to tell them that durint the british times, the nadis from Saraswati mahal library were auctioned and two thirds of them ended up in Vaidheeswaran koil. The remaining one third was brought to Chennai by a person and it is believed to be with his descendents. AC asks him to trace the people.

Kandan comes in plain clothes and the AC hits him with his belt and asks him why he did it. He tells Kandan that Kandan had come into the conference room, early that day and taken the message that he passed on to someone. AC asks who the person was and why dd he do that. Kandan accepts guilt but tells the AC that he will not give him a name. AC asks why? Kandan tells him that he cannot betray his kadavul.. (god!?!).

Archana is by arthi's side and arthis eems to be sleeping. Suddenly she goes into an epileptic fit and archana screams and calls her mum. Dr Mangai rushes there and gives her an injection. Sivakami is all devastrated and tells Mangai that she wished Arthi had not come back. She suddenly realises what the malayalam josiar told them.. he tells them that Arthi would be in a bad state when she comes back and that Sivakami would say exactly that she said now.....

Kandan refuses to tell the name of his mentor. AC tells him that he had checked Kandan's bank accounts etc and all seems to be clean. He livesi na simple house and is not corrupt iin any way, which suggests that there is something else binding kandan to the killers. Kandan tells him that it was the "god" who helped his family when his father had died and the "god" made a man out of Kandan for nothing in return. He helped kandan marry off his sisters to good families and made kandan what he is today. The things kandan did for him are just a small thing in return. He tells AC that he had passed on information in advance to the group when they raided the places where Arthi was kept and at that time realised that the "god" was behind all of this. AC uses force to make him speak but kandan refuses. AC tells Kandan that their profession has no room for sentiments and asks him to speak. Just then Natarajan - Somu's dad - comes there with a bunch of papers and gives them to the AC. The AC tells him that if they are for Somu, he doesnt need them as he is no longer seeking somu and that he is so close to the person behind the killings. Natarajan tells him that the papers are not for somu but for Kandan and the AC has to treat kandan properly and should question kandan only in his prescence. AC is surprised but refuses to let kandan out. He tells Natarajan that Kandan will be produced in court. He tells Natarajan that he is surprised at Natarajan's move as it was because of Kandan that Somu is running like a criminal. Natarajan tells AC that just like the AC said before, there is no room for sentiments when it comes to his profession too... Thodarum...

From: usha_pooja on Thu Dec 1 13:55:10 2005.

SSathiya wrote:

I think...or the way its suppose to be perceived...is that she injected herself to see the reactions her body goes through, so that she can come up with a cure.

Thats what you call a mad scientist!

mad scientist lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!

take care
from usha

From: aanaa on Thu Dec 1 22:22:35 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Padma explains to Somu

... Thodarum...

thank you

may be Somu's father might be?
From: karthik_rcs on Thu Dec 1 22:45:48 2005. [Full View]

THe possibility
1. Periyavar could be the senior actors in the serial
1. YG Mahendran
2. Mohan P Ram
3. Abirami [Chidambaram] father [Old man]

YG Mahendran cannot do this being arthi's father and moreover he could be the agathiyan in this serail. The Tea samiyar gives him the the stick and coconut shell like sanyasi.

Mohan P ram cannot be explicitly kept. I dont think naga would have kept him so explicitly

Finally the Abirami father. He is missing in the scene

Reasons
1. The archaelogy dept says that the Nadi found in the place where arthiwas kept , can be read by ppl who know vatezhuthu and not by nadi jothidars of present era...
2. On one episode the abi. father asks akash ,whether he had read the volai suvadi of his used by his great grand father.

Story is really awesome. Mind blowing twists. Never we saw a serial like this. Naga should be given some great award for this
From: karthik_rcs on Thu Dec 1 22:47:40 2005. [Full View]

HEllo friends
the title theme is available as mp3 in cool goose.
Check it out
From: ts on Thu Dec 8 5:57:03 2005. [Full View]

Somu and Padma arrive at Anbarasu's house and there is someone waiting outside. This man asks Somu if he has come to seek his Nadi and if so, join him in the queue. Somu walks inside and the man follows him. Anbarasu is inside reading a nadi to someone. He sees Somu and stops. The man behind somu tells Anbarasu that he came first. Somu tells him that he is not there to seek his Nadi but to seek the josiyar and asks Anbarasu to continue. Anbarasu sends his client away and Somu goes to him and asks him about the person who took Ponnambalam's nadi from him. Anbarasu dodges and teases him but somu gets wild and slaps Anbarasu and asks him to speak the truth. Anbarasu sees his clients watching and sends them out. He tells Somu that the scarman had come seeking ponnambalam's nadi and when Anbarasu gave it to him, scarman told him that it was a duplicate and he already had the original with him. Anbarasu tells Somu that the scarman had taken little somu's nadi from him and was after Somu's nadi and that he had sent them to Akash at Chidambaram, who has it. Somu asks anbarasu how he knew about his nadi and Akash. Anbarasu tells him that Akash had asked him to make a duplicate of Somu's nadi so that he can get the original out to be read and this information he passed on to the scarman.

Anbarasu's little daughter comes there with a letterpad and gives it to Somu. She asks him not to hurt her dad. Somu asks them what the pad was about. Anbarasu's wife tells them that it was taken from the scarman's car when he visited them once. It is the letter pad from a tourist car company. Somu and padma take it with them.

When they go out, Anbarasu's client (the one who was waiting outside when somu arrived) comes inside and Anbarasu tells him that he cannot consult with them. The man tells him that he his from the police and asks anbarasu to tell the truth about people behind the killings. Anbarasu tells him that he will betray anyone but not this man as no one betrays "god".

Archana is by Arthi's side and Arthi is moving her fingers and writes Archana's name in her chin. Archana is very happy to see her move her fingers. She goes out to tell her mum and the doctor about it.

Somu and Padma are at the Tamil vadhiyar's house and the house has been sealed by the police. Somu takes Padma thru to the backside and tries to break the lock. Padma tries to stop him but in vain. Just then a local comes by and asks them what they are up to. Somu tells him that they are the vadhiyar's old students and wanted to see the house. The man goes away only half impressed by their answer. Padma asks somu to drop the plan and to come with him to the farm. Somu doesnt want to do that but padma is adamant. Somu tells him that he has to relieve himself and goes to the back. When he is off Padma's view, Somu runs away from Padma. Padma calls out for Somu and goes back to check up and realises that Somu had gone long. HE calls the editor and informs him of it.

Dr Mangai checks up Arthi and tells her that she will be able to walk in a few week's time. She tells Arthi that if she wanted to tell anyone that it was Mangai who kidnapped her, she is free to do so but Mangai would be in a foreign country by then. Archana comes there to give Arthi a sponge bath. Mangai leaves the room. Arthi gets Archana's attention and writes "Doctorai nambathey" (dont trust the doctor) in her palm.

Sivakami asks the doctor to have some coffee. Outside the house. Somu looks around and sees some policemen at the gate. He sneaks in through the back by scaling a few walls and when he is at the balcony, Mangai and Sivakami come outside. Somu hides... Mangai she tells Sivakami that Arthi will get well soon.
thodarum...
From: bh on Thu Dec 8 7:55:26 2005. [Full View]

thanx fo da update

From: detective on Thu Dec 8 11:46:01 2005.

Anbarasu tells him that Akash had asked him to make a duplicate of Somu's nadi so that he can get the original out to be read and this information he passed on to the scarman.

Archana is by Arthi's side and Arthi is moving her fingers and writes Archana's name in her chin. Archana is very happy to see her move her fingers. She goes out to tell her mum and the doctor about it.

Few additions:

Somu is still not convinced that Anbarasu is telling everything. He suspects Anbarasu would have read at least few more naadis and given them to scarman. Then Anbarasu reveals that he is an absolutely fake josiyar. ALL his nadis are fake. That was when he says the scarman already had the nadi of ponnambalam and was just checking for additional copies with Anbarasu.

Aarthi moves just her index finger first. She writes "computer" on Archana's hands. But Archana tells her to rest and think about computer later. She then walks out of the room. There was no indication in the serial that she told about this to her mom or the doc. If she had said Aarthi can write, Mangai would have freaked out. But Mangai seemed pretty calm in the next scene.

The next day, Aarthi moves her entire hand. This time, Archana gets up to inform others about this, but Aarthi grabs her hand and immediately writes, "don't trust the doc".

From: ts on Fri Dec 9 5:55:37 2005. [Full View]

Thanks Detective.....

Now to think a bit about Whodunnit

Possibilities:

YGM, Editor, Abirami's dad, Reddiar, Natarajan

Cannot be YGM as its his daughter who is involved.

Cannot be Reddiar as he is dead

Cannot be Abirami's dad as he knows where Somu's nadi is and he doesnt have to go and ask Anbarasu for the information.

This narrows it down to Natarajan and Kumaraguru.

Kumaraguru gets the info from Kanthan and Natarajan goes to his rescue.

Kanthan and Anbarasu refer to their mentor as "god"
Editor is referred tp as "god" by his employees.

Scarman says he is from TK pharma which belongs to Reddiar (and his wife).

Someone (possibly Mohan) prepares them the poison (oxytoxin), a chemical that was invented by Thulasi.
Editor has access to Thulasi's papers which could have been passed on to Mohan thru scarman.

Mukilan and the secrets that he holds with him.... again point to the editor.

On the other hand, we dont know much about Natarajan. He is the one who knows Reddiar and his factory, as he is the legal consultant. He must have a tie up with scarman from Reddiar's factory. Not much is known about his background.

Now comes the question as to how they traced their victims.

Natarajan must have helped Kanthan/Anbarasu and they show their loyalty towards him. With Anbarasu's help they must have traced Manoharan, Isakki, seethapathy and Ponnambalam. With Kanthan's help they must have traced little Somu. Natarajan knows Reddiar, Natesa Sharma and the priest. The priest must have introduced Ismail to him and must have told him about Nandan in the village who helps him fight Reddiar.

Having said that, if Anbarasu is loyal to Natarajan, he would not want the police to get Somu. hence he would not have led them to isakki's house where somu was hiding. There might be someone else on top of the chain, who Natarajan Kanthan and Anbarasu show their allegiance towards...

What do you guys think....? Please post.
From: aanaa on Fri Dec 9 10:00:14 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Padma explains to Somu that Vishnu

... Thodarum...

thank you
From: aanaa on Fri Dec 9 10:01:28 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Somu and Padma arrive at Anbarasu's house

thodarum...

thank u
From: seetha Suresh on Fri Dec 9 17:12:43 2005. [Full View]

aanaa wrote:

ts wrote:

Somu and Padma arrive at Anbarasu's house

thodarum...

thank u

Hi guys!
I just started watching this serial and It's really going great.
This episodes on CD's take a long time to get to Canada..and I alwals get updates from u guys. Thanks a lot for your great job...please keep it up.

Now to think a bit about who is the "GOD"
I think it's Abi's father who is the "GOD". His sister is suffering of Leukemia. He left his daughter in the granny�s house and left to Madras. Why he must come to the granny house after all this years. The Archaeology dept person said, we need old persons to read this as the fonts are not of present age Tamil stuffs...

He is missing in the scene��

All this questions make me think of him.....
From: aanaa on Sat Dec 10 11:07:34 2005. [Full View]

seetha Suresh wrote:

All this questions make me think of him.....

OH good thinking!!!
From: kathir on Mon Dec 12 4:55:21 2005. [Full View]

thank you so much for the updates.

...kathir
From: detective on Mon Dec 12 11:53:37 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

This narrows it down to Natarajan and Kumaraguru.
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What do you guys think....? Please post.

All evidence now points to Kumarguru. Naga has to have really strong screenplay to convince us otherwise. I think it will still qualify to be a good thriller, even if the villain (Kumaraguru) is obvious.

But if someone turns out to be the villain, I bet there will be many logic holes remaining and a lot of questions unanswered. Naga is at a luxury of not having to answer them. The average viewer is not worried about those. So, it could be someone else also.

Questions remaining:

1. We still do not have the right count for 12 murders. Going by the sequence, the first should be the beggar guy. Somu still doesn't think of that.

2. Akash's GG has a sequence of binary numbers in his works, which translate to 'thillai' or something like that. The dumb beggar (and the titles) say, "thillai enbadhu LIyin edhirmrai". Can somebody get the binary equivalent of "LI"? Maybe there is a clue there.

3. Why should the bad guys kill the people after taking the finger print? So far, only Nadesan has a possible different cause of death. I don't know what his autopsy said.

4. Whoever God is, he is concerned about Somu. That is the only reason why they did not kill him, when they took his finger print.

5. Why does scarman require someone else to get the fingerprint? Why can't he take it himself while administering the shot? Well, Naga could say that was as per the naadi's directive. But I think that is pretty lame.

6. My suspect list also includes Akash (though very thin), and his dad (who is abroad). Paatti has a secret too, and there is a reason why she does not want Akash to read that naadi, apart from the fear of seeing him preoccupied.

Guess I have more questions than answers. But without questions, there are no answers. Isn't it?

From: ts on Mon Dec 12 12:38:06 2005.

detective wrote:

All evidence now points to Kumarguru. Naga has to have really strong screenplay to convince us otherwise. I think it will still qualify to be a good thriller, even if the villain (Kumaraguru) is obvious.

May be ... the reason being to find a permanent cure to his daughter's disease....

detective wrote:

But if someone turns out to be the villain, I bet there will be many logic holes remaining and a lot of questions unanswered. Naga is at a luxury of not having to answer them. The average viewer is not worried about those. So, it could be someone else also.

Naga is known to confuse the viewer by making the viewer think that he has unravelled something. I am sure there will be some answers but with few more questions attached to them. That is his style.

detective wrote:

Questions remaining:

1. We still do not have the right count for 12 murders. Going by the sequence, the first should be the beggar guy. Somu still doesn't think of that.

The 12th person is called Palani. is this the professor's name (beggar)??

detective wrote:

2. Akash's GG has a sequence of binary numbers in his works, which translate to 'thillai' or something like that. The dumb beggar (and the titles) say, "thillai enbadhu LIyin edhirmrai". Can somebody get the binary equivalent of "LI"? Maybe there is a clue there.

May be as the granny says, LI might be an acronym for "ellai". Thillai has no ellai.

detective wrote:

3. Why should the bad guys kill the people after taking the finger print? So far, only Nadesan has a possible different cause of death. I don't know what his autopsy said.

There must be two groups operating, one trying for the fingerprint and another trying to kill the person so that the finger print cannot be taken. Remember, in most of the scenarios, the person was already dead.

detective wrote:

4. Whoever God is, he is concerned about Somu. That is the only reason why they did not kill him, when they took his finger print.

Again, may be the "god" who got Somu is from the group who need just the finger print.

detective wrote:

5. Why does scarman require someone else to get the fingerprint? Why can't he take it himself while administering the shot? Well, Naga could say that was as per the naadi's directive. But I think that is pretty lame.

I agree with you. I am hoping that Naga will be giving us a good explanation on this.

detective wrote:

6. My suspect list also includes Akash (though very thin), and his dad (who is abroad). Paatti has a secret too, and there is a reason why she does not want Akash to read that naadi, apart from the fear of seeing him preoccupied.

I am not putting my money on Akash/granny. Dont know about his dad though.
I strongly suspect Natarajan and/or someone he knows and Somu is not dead just because of this.

From: detective on Mon Dec 12 17:11:57 2005.

The 12th person is called Palani. is this the professor's name (beggar)??

I was thinking it was the beggar who was killed in a road accident - the guy who used to say, "kaNakku thaan, ellaamae koadu thaan". But after reading through the initial parts of this forum, I realized he was killed after the thamizh vaadhiyaar Sangaran. So, the only person killed before Sangaran was the first killing by the water tanker. Is he a professor? Was his name Palani?

May be as the granny says, LI might be an acronym for "ellai". Thillai has no ellai.

But like Akash says, why should that be written in English characters?

There must be two groups operating, one trying for the fingerprint and another trying to kill the person so that the finger print cannot be taken. Remember, in most of the scenarios, the person was already dead. Again, may be the "god" who got Somu is from the group who need just the finger print.

That would also explain why does the scarman needs someone else to take the print, if he is killing the victims. Maybe one group is just kiiling the people and the scarman belongs to another, who collects fingerprints. But this contradicts the killings of Little Somu and Seethapathi - scarman poisons them (at least that is what we see).

Again, if there is a separate killing group, we know nothing about them. Is there going to be a whole new kiLaik kadhai for that?

I strongly suspect Natarajan and/or someone he knows and Somu is not dead just because of this.

Entirely possible. I bet there will be scenes in the next few episodes, where Natarajan and/or Mangai will be interrogated by the police and they will say they cannot betray God.

Another question that has been lingering in my mind for a long time: There are at least 2 situations where the right and left thumbs are used interchangably. When Somu goes to the mortuary to take the print for one of the first killings, the other thumb was doused in ink. Reddiyar also says he used the wrong hand for registering the docs, but Sekar takes that print and passes it on.

Is one thumb print a mirror image of the other? Are both unique, or just one?

From: detective on Tue Dec 13 15:37:17 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Thanks Detective.....

Now to think a bit about Whodunnit

Forgot to mention couple of irritations:

1. Why can't they show us the scarman's face? It is quite obvious that we have not seen him before in the serial. What is the big suspence in strategically covering his face every time?

2. Kandhan has already described how 'God' helped him in the time of crisis. Is it too difficult for A/C to trace 'God' from that info? Why make a big suspence of that?

From: ts on Wed Dec 14 8:05:33 2005.

detective wrote:

Thanks Detective.....

Now to think a bit about Whodunnit

Forgot to mention couple of irritations:

1. Why can't they show us the scarman's face? It is quite obvious that we have not seen him before in the serial. What is the big suspence in strategically covering his face every time?

2. Kandhan has already described how 'God' helped him in the time of crisis. Is it too difficult for A/C to trace 'God' from that info? Why make a big suspence of that?

1. Could be that we will never see his face in the serial. The emphasis has always been on the scar and will be....

2. I thought about this too. Kanthan says that his sisters got married with the help of "God". If i were the AC, i would go to the sisters place rightaway. You get more/quick answers that way...and you can say that not everyone will be as loyal as kanthan.

From: ssanjinika on Wed Dec 14 10:16:11 2005. [Full View]

Correct me if I am wrong but didnt Kandhan pass the news of arthi back at home to the editor first?If so then the editor is somehow involved with Kadavul.Either he is the Kadavul or someone in his house has to be Kadavul.My suspicion is on the gardner.He seems to have a vested interest in the whole thing and he knows a lot about medicinal plants.
From: SSathiya on Wed Dec 14 10:41:23 2005. [Full View]

I have a question about something i saw in one of the episodes.
When arthi was being held captive in that abandoned building , there was a scene where the guy with the scar was standing over her and combing her hair with his hand. Then the doctor( Mangayarkarasi,,i think thats her name) comes and asks him if he feels sorry for her , and that he doesnt have to worry because she will be okay.

So does this mean that the guy with the scar likes arthi? I dont think he could be god, i think he is working for him.
From: detective on Wed Dec 14 11:23:10 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

1. Could be that we will never see his face in the serial. The emphasis has always been on the scar and will be....

On that note, have you guys noticed that Mugilan never takes off the towel around his neck? Is he trying to hide a scar there? Whatever little we see of the scarman would match Mugilan's body profile too, don't you think??

From: detective on Wed Dec 14 11:30:34 2005.

SSathiya wrote:

When arthi was being held captive in that abandoned building , there was a scene where the guy with the scar was standing over her and combing her hair with his hand.... So does this mean that the guy with the scar likes arthi? I dont think he could be god, i think he is working for him.

Scarman is definitely not God. Also, Mangai and Scarman talk about "periyavar". periyavar may be, or may not be, God.

You are right that scarman is a compassionate guy. He even breaks down saying is was too difficult to kill a little guy like Little Somu.

From: ts on Wed Dec 14 18:26:02 2005. [Full View]

Somu sneaks thru the back side and notices Mangai getting into the car. He recollects seeing her where he was kept captive but seems confused about it. Mangai sees him thru the rear view mirror and drives off.

Somu enters the hiuse and closes the door. He walks towards the kitchen and sees Sivakami there. she notices him and is happy for him. After the usual enquiries she showshim where Arthi is. Arthi calls him near her and he goes by. Sivakami tells him that Arthi had been injected with Aids virus but it has been arrested. She cries to him and tells him if anyone would marry her after all this. Somu tells her that he will marry Arthi.. Sivakami cant believe her ears and is happy.

One of the policement outside the house gets a call in his mobile and they are instructed to go somewhere. The PC comes outside speaking in his mobile and Tea Samiyar is outside in a corner, pretending to talk in his kottankuchi... as if giving them orders. They leave the house.

Somu and Archana are at the dinner table and Somu has a good meal. Sivakami asks him to stay with them. Somu tells her that he is scared of the police but sivakami tells him that he will be safe there. She asks Somu to take rest and go to sleep. Archana tells her mum that she has to study and stays in the living room. When sivakami goes inside, Archana goes to Somu's room and tells him everything what Arthi told her about Mangai. Somu asks her who mangai is and takes her details from Archana. He gives his mobile number to archana and asks her to keep it a secret.

Next morning Tea samiyar greets Sivakami with the milk bags and asks her to make some tea. She is puzzled to see him but he tells her that he wont spill the milk this time. Sivakami thinks about how she treated him last time when he came over for lunch with 6 others.

Archana comes out of the room and samiyar looks at her. He says "come Kali come... you wanna dance with natesan?" and giggles. She is puzzled. Sivakami gets him tea and he drinks the hot tea in a jiffy. He them walks towards arthi's room and sivakami tries to stop him from opening the door. He asks her if she had locked her precious there and laughs. he then walks towards where somu is and sivakami tries to stop him again. He laughs loud and asks her if the person who came last night was inside. He tells Sivakami that it is arthi's destiny to be locked inside and Somu's destiny to be lost and wandering.. and that somu had gone long back...the room is empty.

Somu goes to Mangai's house and rings the bell. Mangai opens the door sees Somu and tells him that she was expecting him. Somu starts shoutign at her and she stops him and asks him to come inside. Inside the house, she tells him it was her who kidnapped Arthi, injected the virus and trying to cure her. Somu asks her why she was doing that. Mangai tells him that she is re-paying the debt to her "kadavul".... thodarum.
From: aanaa on Thu Dec 15 9:56:29 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Somu

she is re-paying the debt to her "kadavul".... thodarum.

thank u

so who is 'kadavul'?
From: ganeshgerrard on Fri Dec 16 10:30:52 2005. [Full View]

the scarman is sharumathi .
From: detective on Fri Dec 16 12:05:24 2005. [Full View]

aanaa wrote:

so who is 'kadavul'?

Questions:

1. Kandhan confesses to AC that he passed on the message of Aarthi's return to kadavuL. Why does kadavuL need this info? After all, it was his/her people who brought Aarthi back. Isn't it?

2. Kandhan says he passed on the news of an impending police raid looking for Aarthi. He also says that, at that time, he did not know that it was kadavul who had kidnapped Aarthi. Then why did he pass on the news to kadavul?

3. News of Aarthi's return was conveyed to the police control room by fellow police informers, who were spying on Aarhi's house. If they observed someone dropping off Aarthi, why didn't they chase and/or observe them? Was it tea-time?

This is turning out to be a more and more logicless serial day by day. Naga is banking on the speed of the proceedings and the suspense to keep people (including me) watching the serial. I doubt if I will watch his next offering.
From: SSathiya on Fri Dec 16 16:44:42 2005. [Full View]

Somu's character is going in circles. The director is making him come back to where he started from.

I think kadavul could be arthi's father/Editor/abiramis father. One of the three...

From: ts on Mon Dec 19 7:24:03 2005.

1. Kandhan confesses to AC that he passed on the message of Aarthi's return to kadavuL. Why does kadavuL need this info? After all, it was his/her people who brought Aarthi back. Isn't it?

I think it is the two groups thingy here. Do we know if kandan's "kadavul" is the same as anbarasu's "kadavul" ?

2. Kandhan says he passed on the news of an impending police raid looking for Aarthi. He also says that, at that time, he did not know that it was kadavul who had kidnapped Aarthi. Then why did he pass on the news to kadavul?

He just said that he passed on the info about the raid to "kadavul". He did not say that he passed it on to "Kadavul" so that they can escape. Must be that he is doing the other parties a "service"... and at the same time being faithful to "kadavul"...

3. News of Aarthi's return was conveyed to the police control room by fellow police informers, who were spying on Aarhi's house. If they observed someone dropping off Aarthi, why didn't they chase and/or observe them? Was it tea-time?

The word "informers" was not used. The news came from Neelangarai police station. Must be that they got a call from Sivakami, who informed them about her daughter.

This is turning out to be a more and more logicless serial day by day. Naga is banking on the speed of the proceedings and the suspense to keep people (including me) watching the serial. I doubt if I will watch his next offering.

Not really. I think the knot (sukshamam) is in the small print... things uttered by minor characters as passing statements... which will make sense once put together (atleast thats what i hope... Detective, do you think i am expecting too much from Naga???

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From: aanaa on Mon Dec 19 9:28:20 2005.

SSathiya wrote:

Somu's character is going in circles. The director is making him come back to where he started from.

I think kadavul could be arthi's father/Editor/abiramis father. One of the three...

may be somu's father ????

From: detective on Mon Dec 19 13:36:23 2005.

I think it is the two groups thingy here. Do we know if kandan's "kadavul" is the same as anbarasu's "kadavul" ?

That will be a big confusion. Already, people are dying to connect 'God' and 'kadavuL'. If there is a 'saami' and an 'iRaivan' and an 'ummaachi', we will be finished.

Not really. I think the knot (sukshamam) is in the small print... things uttered by minor characters as passing statements... which will make sense once put together (atleast thats what i hope... Detective, do you think i am expecting too much from Naga??? Smile

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It is more than a year since the story started. How long is he gonna stretch this? The more he keeps stretching it, we will see more new characters and new passing statements. Which to remember and which to forget?

I seriously thought Somu would try to find out more info from Aarthi. She can write now. Somu knew there was some info in the computer, but chose to overlook it. Instead, he goes to Dr. Mangai's house all alone, like an idiot. How much longer should we see these idiotic things?

Just because I have already spent so much time in this serial already, I don't want to walk out without knowing the answer. But next time around, I won't even start watching it. I don't know how many more feel like I do.

From: svasu_ani on Thu Dec 22 3:00:26 2005. [Full View]

Ts, Detective...pls update the serial...
From: ts on Thu Dec 22 4:54:16 2005. [Full View]

Mangai tells somu that she did it for her kadavul. Somu asks her as to who he is. She tells him that she was an orphan and her kadavul brought her up like a father. She tells somu that she is like a sister to him and will not give out a name. Somu says that he will call the police with the details. Mangai tells him that she will gracefully accept guilt for Kidnap, injecting Aids virus and using Arthi for test without consent but not the murders. She accuses Somu for the killings. Somu is frightened. He still tries to call the AC. Meanwhile Mangai walks to the fridge and takes a pill out. She tells Somu that it is some poison and she is ready to die and become number 12 in the list. Somu tries to snatch it but she takes the pill and starts to foam up. Somu gets petrified and runs away from the scene. Camera zooms into the pill and it says "Eno". Mangai's servent maid starts to shout and call for help and mangai gets up and stops her. She tells her maid that Somu had seen so many deaths and poor boy is very upset. She asks the servent to go into hiding for some time and that she has to leave too before the police arrive... but the police are already there. They arrest mangai.

Somu is sleeping in someone's thinnai when the house people wake him up and question him. Just then the mad man (one who asked Somu for Rs 10 to get poison to die earlier) comes there and tells them that somu is his son and
was sleeping here as they had a domestic quarrel. When the huse owner goes away, the man asks somu for Rs 10 for saving him from the wrath of the public. Somu tries to avoid him but the man is a pest. He calls a passer by and asks him for money. The man tells him that he will give anything but not money for getting poison. He gives the mad man a T-Shirt and leaves. The mad man comes back to somu and tries to trade the T-Shirt with Somu for Rs 10. He tells Somu that Somu will see kadavul on earth but he had to go to heaven. Somu seems to gets a spark on something.

Arthi is able to move her hands freely now. She write "Open Computer C:\Arthi\Webpages\naadi", wakes up Archana and shows it to her. Archana tries to wake her mother up but Arthi prevents her. Archana goes upstairs to the PC and opens up the folder specified. It is all about Bio Technology, Thulasi and Aids. There are forumpages posted by Thulasi saying that she has a cure for Aids. Archana gets confused and remembers that Somu had given his number to her. She calls Somu and tells him about the PC. She tells him that most of the files are regarding Thulasi. Somu seems surprised. Somu tells her that he is nearby and will be there soon. Archana goes upstairs and waits for him. He sneaks thru th e backside and Archana lets him thru the back door. Once he is inside, she locks the door. In the garden is tea samiyar, witnessing everything....thodarum
From: aanaa on Thu Dec 22 9:49:44 2005. [Full View]

now it leads to editor's daughter Thulasi - Phd meniac
From: aanaa on Thu Dec 22 9:50:47 2005. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Mangai ...thodarum

thank u for the quick update
From: svasu_ani on Thu Dec 22 13:16:53 2005. [Full View]

THanks for the update,

Anitha

From: detective on Thu Dec 22 13:41:41 2005.

She tells somu that she is like a sister to him and will not give out a name.

She also says Somu will not be able to digest that information. So could it be Somu's dad? That is how Mangai can be "like a sister" to Somu.

She asks the servent to go into hiding for some time and that she has to leave too before the police arrive... but the police are already there. They arrest mangai.

Did you see that shady looking guy who was waiting outside when Somu runs out in panic? The same guy is with the police when they come in and arrest Mangai. So the police have been stealthily following Somu, assuming he would lead them to the killers.

Archana goes upstairs to the PC and opens up the folder specified. It is all about Bio Technology, Thulasi and Aids. There are forumpages posted by Thulasi saying that she has a cure for Aids.

This is not going to help us viewers and/or Somu. Aarthi probably found a link between Thulasi's research and the poison used to kill the victims. We (Somu) already know that.

In the garden is tea samiyar, witnessing everything....thodarum

There is also a line of thinking that tea saamiyaar is an adiyaaL of kadavuL, who is spying on Aarthi's house......

From: SSathiya on Sat Dec 24 8:55:22 2005. [Full View]

I think kadavul is the editor, and somu is his real son. maybe the editor gave somu to his parents ( lawyer and the jingle lady) and thats why somu's dad is greatful to him and helps him. Maybe editor helped mangai thats why she said she is like his sister.

Its a long shot, but the editor always seems to be interested in somu and seems to care for him like a son. The way he reacts to somu makes me think this way.
From: ram.kbs on Tue Dec 27 2:23:09 2005. [Full View]

stunning sathya!!!
if so, who is serial killer?

Version 2.0 (your's is Version 1.0)

This is serial is like "urban legend"+"manmathan".

"One person in chennai is having one part of olisuvadi."
Assume he would have searched that to find out the solution for AIDS.
He might have read the olisuvadi of one person(say arthi).
He might have Vasister based suvadi's. But solutions are in Agasthiyar nadi's.But arthi's father will find out the solution. That's why he didn't do anything in that part. To do so, he should kill 12 person.
(Mr Naidu - illegal connection, Priest and Arthi's Manager - injection. these are related AIDS. we can find out the reason for others to).
He might have helped Kandan and Dr.
So editor, somu's father, etc.. are team leader's.

expecting v1.1 and v2.1

From: seetha Suresh on Tue Dec 27 15:57:36 2005.

ram.kbs wrote:

stunning sathya!!!
if so, who is serial killer?

Version 2.0 (your's is Version 1.0)

This is serial is like "urban legend"+"manmathan".

"One person in chennai is having one part of olisuvadi."
Assume he would have searched that to find out the solution for AIDS.
He might have read the olisuvadi of one person(say arthi).
He might have Vasister based suvadi's. But solutions are in Agasthiyar nadi's.But arthi's father will find out the solution. That's why he didn't do anything in that part. To do so, he should kill 12 person.
(Mr Naidu - illegal connection, Priest and Arthi's Manager - injection. these are related AIDS. we can find out the reason for others to).
He might have helped Kandan and Dr.
So editor, somu's father, etc.. are team leader's.

expecting v1.1 and v2.1

The serial is getting very interesting and really makes us to crack our head to find who the GOD is. The main points in this serial are AIDS medicines which related to olai chuvadi. Who wants to know the medicines for AIDS???????

It could be:-
a) Thulasi
b) Kumaraguru (Editor)
c) Abi�s father
d) Vishnu

1) Kumaraguru send Somu to the Tamil teacher�s house to know more about the olai
chuvadi after seeing the photo which Padma took at the Tamil teacher�s house.
Thulasi was there when her father ask Somu to do the interview. She was with
him in the office whenever Somu been ask to do any interview or any other job.

2) Who is the scarman? The scarman could be Kumaraguru�s friend whose name is
Savirimuthu. He is the one who helps Kumaraguru to find Thulasi when she drove by herself the car to the AIDS hospital. Kumaraguru explain to Somu that Savirimuthu knows all the roads around here and he runs a TRAVEL. He also wear white shirt all the time and has curly hair and have the same body structure of the the scarman. The scarman ask Dr. Mohan to call him as DRIVER�.one more point is when Somu went to Ambarasu�s house with Padma where his daughter gave a letter pad which written as MADHA TRAVELS�..is also have connection to Savirimuthu.

3) Somu had always been notifying the editor about his whereabouts which
made it easier for the editor, Thulasi, Savirimuthu and not to forget VISHNU
(Name of GOD Vishnu).

4) At one point, Thulasi is sitting in the thinnai (Aksha�s granny house) and the dumb beggar on the opposite one. He looks at her face and she suddenly stops moving her head and is stunned. He gives her a deep look but before anything happens, visnhu comes in between and takes her inside. IS SHE ACTING LIKE SHE IS SICK.

5) Why the Editor never ask Somu to surrender to police from the beginning�.why
he must ask him to surrender after the 12 person been murdered according to the
chuvadi?

6) Editor�s farm house is surrounded by herbs plants. The gardener (Mukilan) knows more about the herbs and he gave Thulasi the cure for Aids chuvadi expect for the �Rahasiyam� At one point the Editor ask the gardener to go behind the house when the AC comes to the house�.WHY? What happen to all those notes regards to AIDS which Thulasi wrote which he said could have burn during there was a fire in the house.

7) Kandhan passed on the message of Aarthi's return to who�..Editor or ?????

It could be Kumarguru because he wants to find a cure for his daughter�.or his daughter wants to find a cure/medicines for AIDS�same goes to her husband he also a researcher �..and Abi�s father who haven�t come in yet. Anyway we wait and see who is the GOD��tilled then we crack our head.

From: detective on Wed Dec 28 12:44:56 2005.

seetha Suresh wrote:

2) Who is the scarman? The scarman could be Kumaraguru�s friend whose name is
Savirimuthu.

Good guess. Maybe that is why they are hiding his face.

seetha Suresh wrote:

4) At one point, Thulasi is sitting in the thinnai (Aksha�s granny house) and the dumb beggar on the opposite one. ........IS SHE ACTING LIKE SHE IS SICK.

Possible. In that case, who is that dumb guy. Is he someone that knows Thulasi's plans? In that case, why didn't he go to the police? Or does he belong to the other group who is behind the suvadis? So Thulasi sees him there and wonders why he is at Akash's house. And why does the beggar disappear suddenly?

seetha Suresh wrote:

5) Why the Editor never ask Somu to surrender to police from the beginning�.why he must ask him to surrender after the 12 person been murdered according to the chuvadi?

I think that the "master" suvadi lists the names of people and says they all are acquaintances of Somu. So Somu has to be outside to make those acquaintances. Now that all are done, Editor wants Somu to be inside, because that way he will be safe from the other group.

Editor sure is behind these, but may not be the mastermind. Maybe he is being loyal to his kadavuL. Remember when Vishnu says Thulasi has AIDS, Editor is genuinely shocked.

From: seetha Suresh on Wed Dec 28 16:56:56 2005.

detective wrote:

seetha Suresh wrote:

2) Who is the scarman? The scarman could be Kumaraguru�s friend whose name is
Savirimuthu.

Good guess. Maybe that is why they are hiding his face.

seetha Suresh wrote:

4) At one point, Thulasi is sitting in the thinnai (Aksha�s granny house) and the dumb beggar on the opposite one. ........IS SHE ACTING LIKE SHE IS SICK.

Possible. In that case, who is that dumb guy. Is he someone that knows Thulasi's plans? In that case, why didn't he go to the police? Or does he belong to the other group who is behind the suvadis? So Thulasi sees him there and wonders why he is at Akash's house. And why does the beggar disappear suddenly?

seetha Suresh wrote:

5) Why the Editor never ask Somu to surrender to police from the beginning�.why he must ask him to surrender after the 12 person been murdered according to the chuvadi?

I think that the "master" suvadi lists the names of people and says they all are acquaintances of Somu. So Somu has to be outside to make those acquaintances. Now that all are done, Editor wants Somu to be inside, because that way he will be safe from the other group.

Editor sure is behind these, but may not be the mastermind. Maybe he is being loyal to his kadavuL. Remember when Vishnu says Thulasi has AIDS, Editor is genuinely shocked.

[b]Possible. In that case, who is that dumb guy. Is he someone that knows Thulasi's plans? In that case, why didn't he go to the police? Or does he belong to the other group who is behind the suvadis? So Thulasi sees him there and wonders why he is at Akash's house. And why does the beggar disappear suddenly?[/b]

I think he is not behind the all this. He has some kind of power or we can say that he is like a guiding angel. He guide Arthi�s father to Akash house and he have gave us some clue too. At one episode Akash wants to know about the previous birth of Somu and Mani reads it. Apparently, Somu cheated on a girl in his previous birth and the girl died a sick women. So in this birth, he is destined to marry a sick girl. Moreover, Somu will face some treason in this birth from people he trusts. But once the mystery starts unwinding, he will solve it in 15 days. The suvadi also says Somu will see Agathiyan in the process. Akash is surprised to hear this and tries to connect it to the beggar's writing "Ennodu ini moovar kadaseeyil agathian" He could be the VASHISHTAR. Same goes to the Tea Samiyar�.he also like a guiding angle to Arthi�s father.

In one point Akash writes "Leukemia" in a paper and underneath writes "Immune Deficiency" and circles around the first letters which is LI. He then visualizes what the beggar had written..."Thillai enbadhu LIyin ethirmarai...."

Akash have to be somebody cos the late Great Grand Father left the olai chuvadi for him with his name written on it. He is totally changed once he is in granny�s house�.before he always talks about going back to America. Remember Abi�s father ask him regards to the olai chuvadi and what his guru told him before he died.

Anyway we keep crack our heads....guys please update this week episode. Thanks.

From: detective on Wed Dec 28 19:30:37 2005.

seetha Suresh wrote:

I think he is not behind the all this. He has some kind of power or we can say that he is like a guiding angel. He guide Arthi�s father to Akash house and he have gave us some clue too. ...... The suvadi also says Somu will see Agathiyan in the process. Akash is surprised to hear this and tries to connect it to the beggar's writing "Ennodu ini moovar kadaseeyil agathian" He could be the VASHISHTAR. Same goes to the Tea Samiyar�.he also like a guiding angle to Arthi�s father.

Why don't these guiding angels guide them all the way? What kind of a pervert guiding angel leaves cryptic messages on the floor? Tea saamiyaar would be worse. Unlike the dumb beggar, he can talk. What can't he say things clearly? I would not buy this angel theory.

Pardon me guys, but I am not savvy about the history behind Agaththiyar and Vasishtar. If Naga indeed blends mythology into reality, I will not be able to follow that even after everything is in the open.

Hope he does not do that.......

From: Cinefan on Thu Dec 29 2:54:19 2005. [Full View]

This Hub too plays a part in the serial In last weeks episode,Arathi's sister while going thro' the comp finds some webpages where Thulasi has started a thread 'Cure for aids'&has conversations with a Nadi joysiyar 'Pazhani'.The web pages were of this hub.

Infact towards the end of yesterday's episode,the 'tea samiyar'tells Somu,"Avasara padathe.Antha Pazhani irukkane,aandi,appanukke upadesham seidavan,avana tedzhu.Avasara padraye"

In yesterday's episode too,Somu goes thro a few pages of that document arthi has stored&I could see the postings of hubbers like Beckham,Nilavupriyan.How did Naga do that???
From: Sanguine Sridhar on Thu Dec 29 3:51:07 2005. [Full View]

Somu goes thro a few pages of that document arthi has stored&I could see the postings of hubbers like Beckham,Nilavupriyan.How did Naga do that???

yeah yeah even i saw that ... I was surprised and shocked by seeing my Hub name in Sun TV ...

From: ssanjinika on Thu Dec 29 9:19:32 2005.

Cinefan wrote:

This Hub too plays a part in the serial Very Happy

Very Happy

In last weeks episode,Arathi's sister while going thro' the comp finds some webpages where Thulasi has started a thread 'Cure for aids'&has conversations with a Nadi joysiyar 'Pazhani'.The web pages were of this hub.

Infact towards the end of yesterday's episode,the 'tea samiyar'tells Somu,"Avasara padathe.Antha Pazhani irukkane,aandi,appanukke upadesham seidavan,avana tedzhu.Avasara padraye"

In yesterday's episode too,Somu goes thro a few pages of that document arthi has stored&I could see the postings of hubbers like Beckham,Nilavupriyan.How did Naga do that???

I thought the layout seemed familar

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.Was waiting for someone to comment on it

Very Happy

From: kelly on Thu Dec 29 22:03:07 2005. [Full View]

any updates!!!
From: ssanjinika on Thu Dec 29 23:23:12 2005. [Full View]

kelly wrote:

any updates!!!

Every detail till the last episode aired on Sun TV has been posted here!!More updates only after the next airing of the serial (i.e Wednesday 8:30 IST).
From: sreeramtcs on Fri Dec 30 6:18:56 2005. [Full View]

Hai guys where is 28th episode update. Please post it yar am eager to know. Am a tamilian working in Lucknow TCS. I dont have a tv. I used to watch this serial when i was in Pondicherry.
U people do a great job by regularly posting the updates. Please continue the good work. Bye for now.
From: kelly on Fri Dec 30 7:08:36 2005. [Full View]

Hi,
is there any updates for 28/12, or did i miss something. TQ
From: ssanjinika on Fri Dec 30 11:44:00 2005. [Full View]

Hey Guys im just attempting the update this week since it looks like TS and Dective were a bit busy this week and cudnt update.Please bear with me this week.

Update 12/28

Somu comes to Arti's house after Archana calls his cell to tell him about the web pages she found written by Tulasi.Somu looks at the pages and looking at the number of pages tells archana to give him print outs of them as there are too many pages and he cannot finish reading all of them before morning.As he slips out of the house,tea samiyar is outside.He keeps following Somu.Somu asks him what he wants and to stop following him as someone might see them.Tea samiyar says after 3 am noone can see anything.He then goes on to say Somu should see aandi..appan-kke upadesam panna aandi-ya poi paaru(sorry guys didnt really get that part.)

Next scene..Chidambaram,paati's house is being cleaned and repainted,paati and Abi's dad are there talking about something when Dr.Thillairajan comes searching for Aakash.Paati recognises him and invites him into the house after introducing him to Abi's father.She then enquires about his family.Dr.Thillairajan in the course of this conversation mentions that he has 2 children both girls and their names are arti and archana.Abi's father looks shocked and when patti goes inside to get something for them to drink,Abi's father tells Dr.Thillairajan that 50 years back itself his guru told him that a man called Dr.Thillairajan will come and that arti and archana were also mentioned.They are sitting on the thennai when the Dr asks Abi's father to explain what he meant.Abi's father tells him that 50 years back while reading his sisters naadi,his guru(i.e Aakash's great granddad).
The naadi says that Abi's fathers sister will suffer from some form of cancer in her later years.A "Thillairajan" with arti and archana will come to cure her.Since Thillairajan is here and he has 2 daughters arti and archana and hes a doctor to top it all,the naadi must have meant him is what Abi's father thinks.Dr.Thillai is not sure,he hesitates and tells Abi's father how can it be him..hes a gynecologist and dosent deal with diseases like cancer.
The naadi could have meant lord Nataraja himself with aarti and archana thattu.At this time a beggar/samiyar comes into the picture.He comes and butts into the conversation,
and asks Dr.thillai what is 2?The Dr shows up 2 fingers,the samiyar says no..thats 2 fingers I wantto know what 2 is...the josiyar(one who has shop on patti's thinnai)is trying to shoo away the beggar.The beggar dosent bother too much with him
and proceeds to ask Abi's father the question.Abi's father says something and ends by saying aatma is a portion of paramaatma.The beggar then says "does that mean u are kadavul too?"
He points to Dr.Thillai and says then he is Kadavul too.The Dr is a bit stunned to hear that.Meanwhile the patti comes out and the beggar falls at her feet and says hes hungry and to give him some food.Just then the josiyars assistant comes and patti asks him wheres Aakash(he was supposed to be at the temple).The assistant tells him that aakash is not there in the temple.Patti mutters that nowadays aakash dosent tell her where hes going at all and goes inside.Abi's father then calls the Dr to come to his house and see his sister.He believes that his sister will be cured if he sees her.Dr is still hesitant..the beggar urges him togo and see her.He finally goes with Abi's dad.
Thodarum...

P.S Any kutrams pls feel free to point out .
From: detective on Fri Dec 30 17:57:47 2005. [Full View]

ssanjinika wrote:

Somu comes to Arti's house after Archana calls his cell to tell him ........He then goes on to say Somu should see aandi..appan-kke upadesam panna aandi-ya poi paaru

Somu continues his idotic acts by not even looking at the pages while they are printed. Instead, he chooses to sit at the edge of the cot and stares at the wall. How easily can serials be dragged!!!

But one of the userids in the forum is Pazhani. Not sure how much weightage we can give to that name. I am sure everybody here knows I am not a detective.

Tea saamiyaar tells him to not to be in a haste, and he should go in search of the aandi who preached to his own dad.

Naga is probably following this forum. He showed a little of this forum for authenticity with some html modifications.

ssanjinika wrote:

At this time a beggar/samiyar comes into the picture.He comes and butts into the conversation.......the beggar urges him togo and see her.He finally goes with Abi's dad.

The beggar says too many incoherent things, very similar too the tea saamiyaar and the dumb beggar. Another character to confuse us and drag the serial.

From: Surya on Fri Dec 30 20:33:24 2005.

Cinefan wrote:

This Hub too plays a part in the serial Very Happy

Very Happy

In last weeks episode,Arathi's sister while going thro' the comp finds some webpages where Thulasi has started a thread 'Cure for aids'&has conversations with a Nadi joysiyar 'Pazhani'.The web pages were of this hub.

Infact towards the end of yesterday's episode,the 'tea samiyar'tells Somu,"Avasara padathe.Antha Pazhani irukkane,aandi,appanukke upadesham seidavan,avana tedzhu.Avasara padraye"

In yesterday's episode too,Somu goes thro a few pages of that document arthi has stored&I could see the postings of hubbers like Beckham,Nilavupriyan.How did Naga do that???

I'm wondering too!! First I came here and looked for a thread with that title!

Laughing

From: aanaa on Sat Dec 31 12:49:35 2005. [Full View]

Surya wrote:

I'm wondering too!! First I came here and looked for a thread with that title!

may Naga reading the comments from here
who knows....

From: aanaa on Sat Dec 31 12:50:56 2005.

ssanjinika wrote:

Hey Guys im just attempting the update this week since it looks like TS and Dective were a bit busy this week and cudnt update.Please bear with me this week.

Update 12/28
P.S Any kutrams pls feel free to point out Smile

Smile

thank u
but we r not Nakkeeran
we express /discuss

From: nandhunaren on Sun Jan 1 8:08:39 2006. [Full View]

maybe naga himself has a forumname that we don't know anything about and he himself is acting like he is trying to crack the suspense on the forum.. will the real naga please stand up..

i know some will say i am naga since this is my first post. but i am not him and i just found out about this forum.. great job everyone.. glad i finally found a home
From: Naaga on Sun Jan 1 12:35:23 2006. [Full View]

Hi there everybody.....here i am, before there is dissension in the ranks......

Yes, i have been following the forum since May '05...n i am thankful for the updates from TS, detective and ssanjinika and all the other hubbers for the analysis (dissection..?) of my serial....

Using this forum page in my serial is a tribute to you all....

From: aanaa on Sun Jan 1 13:44:48 2006.

Naaga wrote:

Hi there everybody.....here i am, before there is dissension in the ranks......

Yes, i have been following the forum since May '05...n i am thankful for the updates from TS, detective and ssanjinika and all the other hubbers for the analysis (dissection..?) of my serial....

Using this forum page in my serial is a tribute to you all....

From: nandhunaren on Sun Jan 1 22:38:48 2006. [Full View]

great to have you with us mr. naaga.. as you can see, many of us are NRIs and i really speak for my gang when i say we are fanatics of your work and have been since the very first kaalabairavar story.. don't matter how much we dissect the serial or call somu an idiot, we are absolutely in love with the job you do and just happy to see someone thinking outside the box.
From: karthik_rcs on Mon Jan 2 12:27:04 2006. [Full View]

Hello Mr.Naga,
OF all serial , The Chidambaram Ragasiyam is the master piece.
AFter seeing serial, we have got interest in biometrics and origami part.

Blend of science and spirituality is mind blowing.

WHEN THE RAGASIYAM AMBALAMAGUM
From: bh on Tue Jan 3 0:43:55 2006. [Full View]

hi Naga!
its really great to have u here!
the concept of the serial is very good. this the only serial i watch regularly.

From: detective on Tue Jan 3 1:20:51 2006.

Naaga wrote:

Hi there everybody.....here i am, before there is dissension in the ranks......

Yes, i have been following the forum since May '05...n i am thankful for the updates from TS, detective and ssanjinika and all the other hubbers for the analysis (dissection..?) of my serial....

Using this forum page in my serial is a tribute to you all....

Do you guys really believe this? What convinced you that this really Naaga and not some prankster?

From: Naaga on Tue Jan 3 1:53:54 2006. [Full View]

Detective, i like you for this scepticism.....you deserve the name......

Proof that i am Naga......watch tomorrow's episode..."Hub" is changed to "Hue".......
From: sreeramtcs on Tue Jan 3 2:00:31 2006. [Full View]

Hello Naaga,
Great to have u here. I am a mad fan of ur serials. Plz keep the good work going. Also i want to see ur name in films. Plz let us know if u are working on any film.
From: nandhunaren on Tue Jan 3 2:44:49 2006. [Full View]

detective, let us know if he really proves his case. if it is mr. naaga, then this is unprecendented really , a director listening to unprofessional critics and viewers , whose opinion is what ultimately matters.
From: svasu_ani on Tue Jan 3 3:42:39 2006. [Full View]

Hello Naaga

Great to have u amongst us... CR is going on really well...and eagerly waiting for the rahasiyam to be out...

Anitha
From: ram.kbs on Tue Jan 3 7:12:16 2006. [Full View]

Naaga wrote:

Detective, i like you for this scepticism.....you deserve the name......

Proof that i am Naga......watch tomorrow's episode..."Hub" is changed to "Hue".......

what is chithambara ragasiyam?
any idea?
From: detective on Tue Jan 3 11:28:52 2006. [Full View]

Naaga wrote:

Detective, i like you for this scepticism.....you deserve the name......

Proof that i am Naga......watch tomorrow's episode..."Hub" is changed to "Hue".......

OK. Let us see. I guess Somu will be reading the printouts. Hope he doesn't read it for the next few months, like Akash-Mani reading Somu's naadi

Anyway, some hubbers were stunned that the contents of this forum appeared alongwith Thulasi's postings. Now they will be convinced it is the work of someone with html knowledge.
From: detective on Tue Jan 3 11:30:53 2006. [Full View]

nandhunaren wrote:

unprofessional critics and viewers , whose opinion is what ultimately matters.

Very well said. We are the customers and we rule

From: ts on Tue Jan 3 13:40:19 2006.

detective wrote:

Naaga wrote:

Detective, i like you for this scepticism.....you deserve the name......

Proof that i am Naga......watch tomorrow's episode..."Hub" is changed to "Hue".......

OK. Let us see. I guess Somu will be reading the printouts. Hope he doesn't read it for the next few months, like Akash-Mani reading Somu's naadi Smile

Smile

Anyway, some hubbers were stunned that the contents of this forum appeared alongwith Thulasi's postings. Now they will be convinced it is the work of someone with html knowledge.

Smile

Smile

Smile

Nice to see you in this forum Naga!

I know for a fact that people from Annamalai team used to visit these forums and post there. There used to be a poster who gave clues about the future episodes... and he had mentioned that Sundar K Vijayan, Radhika and others from the team were aware and have been following the user reactions.

As you have said, we are the boss and the "professionals" know it

Smile

Detective,

Reg Somu's nadi, they have been reading it in secrecy as they didnt want the granny to know about it. Akash should have taken mani with him to some secluded place and read the nadi entirely.. thats what would have happened practically.. but for a tele serial, some things have to be compromised and a balance maintained. Atleast, naga is not as bad (or good ?) as some mega serial directors who can "magically" span just a single scene for 4 weeks....

From: detective on Tue Jan 3 16:33:04 2006.

Akash should have taken mani with him to some secluded place and read the nadi entirely.. thats what would have happened practically.. but for a tele serial, some things have to be compromised and a balance maintained. Atleast, naga is not as bad (or good ?) as some mega serial directors who can "magically" span just a single scene for 4 weeks....

Agreed. We have the luxury of blaming the director for dragging the serial. But Naagaa has to satisfy his sponsorers as well. I only hope he does not lose viewers in that process.

However, if we look at other serials, it is no secret that no matter how dragging and idiotic a serial is, there are still people ready to watch those. So chidhambara ragasiyam can be safely dragged for another year without losing significant viewership.

And I am the only person complaining about the drag because, like someone else said, this is the ONLY serial I watch. But an average viewer in Tamilnadu is exposed to the likes of koalangaL and selvi, and for him/her, our serial is rocket speed. Naagaa maybe receiving (e)mails requesting him to slow down because they cannot cope with the speed

Smile

Very sad state of affairs

Sad

From: kelly on Wed Jan 4 5:04:10 2006. [Full View]

ssanjinika, thanks for the update. I think Abi's father is the Kadavul

From: ts on Wed Jan 4 5:35:36 2006.

detective wrote:

Agreed. We have the luxury of blaming the director for dragging the serial. But Naagaa has to satisfy his sponsorers as well. I only hope he does not lose viewers in that process.

However, if we look at other serials, it is no secret that no matter how dragging and idiotic a serial is, there are still people ready to watch those. So chidhambara ragasiyam can be safely dragged for another year without losing significant viewership.

And I am the only person complaining about the drag because, like someone else said, this is the ONLY serial I watch. But an average viewer in Tamilnadu is exposed to the likes of koalangaL and selvi, and for him/her, our serial is rocket speed. Naagaa maybe receiving (e)mails requesting him to slow down because they cannot cope with the speed Smile

Smile

Very sad state of affairs Sad

Sad

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Detective. Dont worry.. i am in the same league. I "see" some other serials but "watch" only this one

Smile

if you know what i mean...

Let alone Selvi and Kolangal, there is a huge following for the so-called comedies of "Alli Rajjiyam" and "Chinna Papa...." - content that i cant take for even one minute...

...afterall the channel has to offer something for every one... and you know, one man's food is other's poison... unfortunately, these channels offer very little for the those like us ! and thats a shame.. hope SunTV keeps the Wednesday slot for serials such as CR and offer only quality content in this slot. (...Marma desam, Vidathu karuppu, rudhra veenai, CR etc...)

From: Cinefan on Wed Jan 4 8:59:36 2006.

detective wrote:

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Agreed. We have the luxury of blaming the director for dragging the serial. But Naagaa has to satisfy his sponsorers as well. I only hope he does not lose viewers in that procesip.

And I am the only person complaining about the drag because, like someone else said, this is the ONLY serial I watch. But an average viewer in Tamilnadu is exposed to the likes of koalangaL and selvi, and for him/her, our serial is rocket speed. Naagaa maybe receiving (e)mails requesting him to slow down because they cannot cope with the speed Smile

Smile

Very sad state of affairs Sad

Sad

Very Happy

CR is indeed Rocket speed&it is to Naga's credit that he doesn't allow the viewers to point out loopholes as they are watching.Also it's one serial which rarely irritates you.

And Naga(if you are him really),

Hi.You have done some really good work in the past.I was terribly disappointed when you exited from Rudra Veenai.Am looking forward as to how you will end CR,a hell of a task really

Smile

From: Sanguine Sridhar on Wed Jan 4 9:10:59 2006. [Full View]

The great + of Naga is he will mix science and spiritual things into equal propotion and he wont say either, everything is science or spiritual things exists.Really interesting and nail-biting.I was really amazed by this directors talent in Vidathu Karuppu and Ragasiyam.

In Vidathu Karuppu climax he will say that fellow was affected by Split Personality(Science) but he will show that he was the 10th avatar of Lord Krishna(sprituality).Expecting the same kind of finish for CR also
From: svasu_ani on Wed Jan 4 11:35:49 2006. [Full View]

I am in India for vacation and was able to see CR after 4 weeks and thank u guys for updating the same here....
Jus finished watching CR.. I dont want to break the suspense of serial by updating it immdly...

I jus wanna mention that the HUB is Chngd to HUE

ANitha
From: karthik_rcs on Wed Jan 4 12:24:59 2006. [Full View]

Hello TS,detective,
I watched the serial, there is a slight hidden clue for who could be behind these things.

please watch it. WIll tell you once u post the episode summary..

From: ssanjinika on Wed Jan 4 12:36:57 2006.

aanaa wrote:

ssanjinika wrote:

Hey Guys im just attempting the update this week since it looks like TS and Dective were a bit busy this week and cudnt update.Please bear with me this week.

Update 12/28
P.S Any kutrams pls feel free to point out Smile

Smile

thank u
but we r not Nakkeeran
we express /discuss

Laughing

Well I meant in my update itself and not in my language

Smile

From: ssanjinika on Wed Jan 4 12:41:26 2006. [Full View]

I too only "watch" this serial..others I "see" while switching channels.Complain all I want I may about the length of the serial and the slow pace its moving in but cant wait to watch the next episode.BTW does anyone know who to transfer/copy programs from the DVR to a CD?I have the episodes on DVR and would like to transfer them on to a CD.Any ideas?
From: detective on Wed Jan 4 13:38:15 2006. [Full View]

ssanjinika wrote:

BTW does anyone know who to transfer/copy programs from the DVR to a CD?I have the episodes on DVR and would like to transfer them on to a CD.Any ideas?

Well, you definitely need a CD recorder - something that would interface with a TV. A CD R/W drive cannot do this job, unless you have a A/V card and/or tuner in your PC.

If you have the CD recorder, connect the output of your DISH DVR receiver into the recorder, and connect the CD recorder's output to your TV input. Now, the DVR's signals go to your TV through this CD recorder. So you can record anything that comes out of DVR.
From: seetha Suresh on Wed Jan 4 15:26:36 2006. [Full View]

Hi Guys,

Wish all of you a very Happy New Year.

Mr. Naaga, we are very great to have you with us. You are doing a great job and please keep it up. Chidambaram Ragasiyam is not only for entertainment it does also contain important fact. Can you believe that someone in India keeps the record of your past, present and future? Yes! Nadi Astrology written by enlightened masters called the Siddhas. These Siddhas may have known you in a past lifetime when you lived in India. At that time they agreed to help many people during a crisis in a future lifetime. For some people, that future time is actually "now".
Hinduism is found in nearly every corner of the globe. Hindus are estimated at 500,000,000 worldwide. A large number of Hindus also reside in South America and the Caribbean, including in the countries of Guyana, Suriname, Trinidad and Tobago. Britain and the United States have significant, but relatively small, Hindu populations. I�m sure some of them don�t even know about Nadi Astrology so this Chidambaram Ragasiyam playing a good role. For example I don�t even know about it until I watch this serial. With just a thumbprint, the astrologer can identify your Nadi leaf containing your destiny, previous incarnations, and how to remove negative karma. The Nadi readings will accelerate the process of burning your karma and can completely alter the course of your destiny. The Nadi leaves are inscribed in Sanskrit, the language used in all ancient Indian arts and sciences.
I was very impressed with these Siddhas. They are an esoteric group of enlightened saints from the distant past. They founded Nadi astrology. The Siddhas have etched their priceless knowledge on ancient palm leaves called Nadis. If they were associated with you in your 'Poorva Janma' (previous birth), they promised to help you in a future life, i.e. now. By the Nadi law, you will be involuntarily attracted to the leaves by destiny only. Not everyone has a leaf, so it is an interesting omen that you are reading this far.

Mr. Naaga, keep up your wonderful job. My visit to India, I will visit Vaitheeswaran Koil�who knows may be my nadi contains the cure for SARS or BIRD FLU. Hopefully I won�t end up with the guy like Ambarasu.
From: daffodil on Thu Jan 5 1:49:55 2006. [Full View]

Hi,

I have been following the posts for a long time and hats off to TS, Detective and other hubbers on this forum. It is interesting to note that even Naaga has been viewing the forum.

CR is keeping its viewers on the edges of their seats. Good work.

Well i was wondering if YG Mahendran may be the kadavul, as we already know that the scar man is Savirimuthu (the driver).

YG could be the one because he is the least suspected as arthi is his daughter. Lets wait and see.
From: ts on Thu Jan 5 5:41:38 2006. [Full View]

YGM and Abi's dad go to Abi's house and at the thinnai, YGM sees a painting of Nataraja and is stunned. Abi's dad takes him inside and calls out for Abi and his sister. He sees his sister in a room, where she very frail and is eating something from a paper packet. They go and check it out and YGM finds that it is arsenic. He immediately gets some charcoal from the boiler, grinds it and gives it to the lady with some water to instigate vomitting. Meanwhile some relatives of Abi come there and take the lady to the backyard. Sundaresan (Abi's dad) is very thankful to YGM for he would not have been able to save his sister if not for YGM. YGM tells him that it was his duty as a doctor to ave lives but he doesnt have a cure for cancer that the lady is suffering from. Sundaresa Iyer tells YGM that Akash's great grand dad had predicted that Abi's mother woud live a long life but became half mad when she died after Abi's birth. He them sought nadis of everyone in the family and predicted that Sundaresa Iyer's sister would suffer from cancer. He tells YGm that he tried to get her married to Akash's dad but that didnt materialise. All the prophecies have come true so far and the fact that YGM was there is the proof. He asks YGM to stay with them but YGM refuses. Sundaresan and his sister persuade him to stay with them and it seems too mean for YGM to turn down the offer...

Somu is in an old disused building, trying to make sense from the printouts. He hears someone coming and it is the Rs.10/- person. He asks somu for Rs. 10 as usual. Somu tries to evade him but this man is a pest. Somu tells him that he doesnt encourage beggars and this man gets angry. He tells Somu that he isa n MSc in physics and not a beggar. The conversation builds up and he asks Somu if he can get Rs.10 if he helps somu with anything. Somu tells him that he has nothing to do himself. The man asks somu if he will get Rs.10 if he reads the printouts and explains to Somu about the contents. Somu tells him that he has read the printouts 10 times and nothing makes any sense. The man grabs the printouts and starts to read. The printout is from the forum "The HUE" Forumhub layout with a different title and BB colour combi.

He reads Thulasis post and comments that she must be mad to inject the Aids virus into herself. He asks Somu as to who she was and Somu tells him that it is his Boss's daughter, sought of a sister to him. The man tells somu that only Kadavul supports Thulasi. He reads out the posting from "kadavul" which says that Kadavul will not let down those who have faith on him . The posting says that Thulasi is the apple of his eyes and will do anything to save her. The man asks somu if he has heard of "Kadavul" before. Somu recollects Mangai mentioning about Kadavul. The man tells him that there is no point in going after Kadavul at this time but it is Palani that he should target. Somu recollects Akash mentioning about Palani and akss the man how he knew the name. The man points out Thulasi's post which thanks Palanni for opening up the issue for the thread. He asks Somu to catch Palani and that will reveal the whole picture. Somu tries to leave in a hurry but the man demands his wages. Somu gives him Rs. 10 and leaves. When going down the stairs he sees the man dancing happily... thodarum...

This week's episode gives a clue about the killer. Kadavul is someone close to Thulasi. Kumaraguru was the first one that came to my mind. He is referred to as "god" by his people and fits the profile perfectly. Knowing Naga (from previous serials that is), i seriously doubt it would be Kumaraguru. I am most certain that it is Vishnu who is behind all this. He is using "god" or "kadavul" as a screen for his activities to confuse people so that the police cannot get to him. He is very inquisitive about Mukilan's herbs.
Thulasi is certainly apple to his eyes... He has lots of money and has access to Kumaraguru's resources... certainly Savarimuthu...He knew details about where Thulasi was when she ran away from the farm....

Well thats my guess for this week
From: Naaga on Thu Jan 5 8:39:12 2006. [Full View]

Thanx Ts 4 the update.........
xcept 4 one factual error............Abi's dad's name is Parameswara Dikshitar.........n Sundaresan is his sister's (akka) son........the "some relative" who walks in.

Detective, r u convinced?

From: ts on Thu Jan 5 9:40:15 2006.

Naaga wrote:

Thanx Ts 4 the update.........
xcept 4 one factual error............Abi's dad's name is Parameswara Dikshitar.........n Sundaresan is his sister's (akka) son........the "some relative" who walks in.

Detective, r u convinced?

Thanks Naaga for the corrections. I was typing it in a hurry as i had to pop into a meeting

Smile

... and yes i noticed the pattern ...
Someswaran
Akash
Kumaraguru
Natesa Sharma
Ponnambalam
Parameswara Dikshitar
Mahadevan
Adiyapatham
Natarajan and
Sundaresan

Probably we will see one or more of
Tyagarajan, Viswanathan, Ramanathan, Iswaran etc soon

Smile

From: ts on Thu Jan 5 9:43:08 2006. [Full View]

Missed one scene from the update...

The Ac is in the conference room and his deputy walks in. He tells the AC that he verified Kanthan's statement and found a discrepancy. The man who was supposed to have taken Akash's photo from the lab is said to be abroad. The deputy tells the AC that this man had out of the country for 4 years, well before the case had started. AC is surprised to hear that and wants to see the owner of the lab. He asks his deputy to bring him.
He hen asks his deputy about Padma and the deputy tells him that Padma is no longer with Somu.
From: detective on Thu Jan 5 10:58:30 2006. [Full View]

Naaga wrote:

Detective, r u convinced?

Yes. I too noticed the "HUE"

I am convinced that you are at least someone close to Naagaa, if not Naaga himself.

From: detective on Thu Jan 5 10:59:49 2006.

... and yes i noticed the pattern ...
Someswaran
Akash
Kumaraguru
Natesa Sharma
Ponnambalam
Parameswara Dikshitar
Mahadevan
Adiyapatham
Natarajan and
Sundaresan

Probably we will see one or more of
Tyagarajan, Viswanathan, Ramanathan, Iswaran etc soon Smile

Smile

What pattern are you talking about, TS?

From: detective on Thu Jan 5 11:22:39 2006.

and his sister persuade him to stay with them and it seems too mean for YGM to turn down the offer...

The sister should actually be mad that Dr.Thillai botched her suicide attempt. But it seemed to me that she was thanking him !!??@$%

Somu tries to evade him but this man is a pest......no point in going after Kadavul at this time but it is Palani that he should target....... When going down the stairs he sees the man dancing happily... thodarum...

He sure was a pest. He concurs with tea saamiyaar that Somu should go in search of Pazhani. His dance probably implies that he is the thillai kooththan himself. Looks like even God has joined the guiding angels (no pun intended).

This week's episode gives a clue about the killer. Kadavul is someone close to Thulasi. Kumaraguru was the first one that came to my mind. He is referred to as "god" by his people and fits the profile perfectly. Knowing Naga (from previous serials that is), i seriously doubt it would be Kumaraguru. I am most certain that it is Vishnu who is behind all this. He is using "god" or "kadavul" as a screen for his activities to confuse people so that the police cannot get to him. He is very inquisitive about Mukilan's herbs. Thulasi is certainly apple to his eyes... He has lots of money and has access to Kumaraguru's resources... certainly Savarimuthu...He knew details about where Thulasi was when she ran away from the farm....

Well thats my guess for this week Smile

Smile

I respectfully disagree. Vishnu cannot be the periyavar they were talking about. He could not have adopted Dr.Mangai from an orphanage and sent her to school. Periyavar has to be an elderly man. I am not saying it is Kumaraguru either. He was genuinely shocked when he learnt from Vishnu that Thulasi had injected AIDS virus into herself. Plus, it would be too obvious.

Which other elderly person would claim Thulasi as an apple of his eye? Could it be Thulasi's mom? Where is she? Thulasi's grandparents??

Or is it a totally different Thulasi on the forum???

From: Naaga on Thu Jan 5 11:33:54 2006. [Full View]

detective wrote:

He was genuinely shocked when he learnt from Vishnu that Thulasi had injected AIDS virus into herself. Plus, it would be too obvious.

I think you have mentioned this before too.....You should recheck the episode........he is not shocked at her having injected AIDS virus into herself........but at the fact that she is married......well, that's the way i took it.
From: swathy on Thu Jan 5 11:39:00 2006. [Full View]

Naaga

Are you the director of the serial?
From: jaiganes on Thu Jan 5 12:31:16 2006. [Full View]

Hey Naagaa!
This serial is the only one thamizh serial I care to watch.
Good work. Keep it up. Your comedy serial Ramani Vs Ramani was very good too.

From: detective on Thu Jan 5 12:36:17 2006.

Naaga wrote:

detective wrote:

He was genuinely shocked when he learnt from Vishnu that Thulasi had injected AIDS virus into herself. Plus, it would be too obvious.

I think you have mentioned this before too.....You should recheck the episode........he is not shocked at her having injected AIDS virus into herself........but at the fact that she is married......well, that's the way i took it.

Well, the truth is, I did not actually see that episode. I was moving to a different home and the dish was not installed in time for that episode. I heard the story from a friend. So I could not "capture the mood" of the characters.

OK. So the editor knew that his daughter had AIDS. In that case, he is still in the list of suspects. Like I said once before, it is a big task to portray someone else as the main villian, when every available evidence points to the editor.

When everyone discounts the editor for being too obvious, if he really turns about to be the main guy, that would be a surprise too. I think I already mentioned this too, some time back.

Bottomline: I have been repeating the same things again and again, like Mega Serials

Smile

From: ssanjinika on Thu Jan 5 13:05:10 2006. [Full View]

Detective :
Firstly : Thanks for your suggestion.Will try it out.
Next: It cant be a totally different thulasi.I did wonder how somu concluded that the thulasi in the forum is actually Editor's daughter..then realised that in one of the pages he(somu) browses,theres a picture of Dr.Thulasi along with some papers she wrote.So I guess we should conclude that ,that thulasi and this Dr.Thulasi are one and the same..
One question .Has Thulasi always been the way she is now?What happened to change her?Or is she just so intellectual that she is a bit mad?
On contemplating who the villian is..
Editor though looks/acts like a villian, seems a bit too concerned about somu and genuinely dosent seem to know whats happening..but he is the guy who has all the resources to carry it off..so wondering if he could have some kind of multiple personality disorder and one personality dosent recognise the other
I know too many movies with this theme now and if I remember Naga did a serial which touched on this .But cant help thinking this way .

Naga:
If you really are the "Naga" of the superb serials then to you.Great Job!
From: gmax2k5 on Thu Jan 5 13:20:45 2006. [Full View]

Hi guys, have been away from the hub for sometime now, but I am back now, haven't missed an episode of chidambara ragasiyam yet. Its goin at full pace now, who do u guys think Kadavul is? I personally think it is Thulasi's ex-husband Vishnu. Because, in the forum, there was a reference to someone close to thulasi, i doubt nagaa will make it so easy, and say its the father. And btw, who is the person that the forum mentions, and even Akash asks somu if he knew? who do u guys think it is? Also, for sometime, i had my doubts of dr.thillairajan, but i dont think he is involved. Also, even if Vishnu is kadavul, how could he have helped out all these people, like that lady doctor, and also the police inspector. I thought Chidambara Ragasiyam was close to ending, but it seems, there is a lot of things to be cleared up first, like Akash has been out of the picture for the past few episodes, Somu is still to check out his nadi, and talk to akash in detail. so, lets hope naga doesn't leave any loose strands, and ties it all up, and gives us an exciting ending.
From: ts on Thu Jan 5 13:38:42 2006. [Full View]

Detective:

I am not saying that Vishnu is the "Periyavar" or "kadavul". My speculation is that Vishnu is acting from behind a "periyavar" . He could be the "sUtradhAri". Remember, the poison that killed the 11 is oxytoxin, (or something similar) which was invented by Thulasi. (I know you will argue that Natesa Sharma died due to the fall - my assumption is that the injection that the rowdy gave him was the poison and not as given to believe). Who else has better access to it apart from Thulasi?

... pattern : Names of Shiva. Most male characters are named after Shiva.
Exceptions: Padmaraj, Vishnu, Seethapathy, Isakki, Anbarasu, Mani

Ssajinika:
I think Thulasi became mad after the experiment. It is the "cure" that left these side effects.
From: svasu_ani on Thu Jan 5 14:07:38 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Detective:

... pattern : Names of Shiva. Most male characters are named after Shiva.
Exceptions: Padmaraj, Vishnu, Seethapathy, Isakki, Anbarasu, Mani

.

ANother exception:
PAZHANI

From: svasu_ani on Thu Jan 5 14:15:46 2006.

Missed one scene from the update...

The Ac is in the conference room and his deputy walks in. He tells the AC that he verified Kanthan's statement and found a discrepancy. The man who was supposed to have taken Akash's photo from the lab is said to be abroad. The deputy tells the AC that this man had out of the country for 4 years, well before the case had started. AC is surprised to hear that and wants to see the owner of the lab. He asks his deputy to bring him.

The persons name was mentioned as Siva....donno if am right...

And if it is so...who is this guy??? Hve we ever come across him in the serial??

ABis father being kadavul can be ruled out as he asks the help of YGM in curing his sister.

And again who reads the chuvadis if abis father isnt involved???

ANitha

From: detective on Thu Jan 5 15:54:05 2006.

Detective:

I am not saying that Vishnu is the "Periyavar" or "kadavul". My speculation is that Vishnu is acting from behind a "periyavar" . He could be the "sUtradhAri". Remember, the poison that killed the 11 is oxytoxin, (or something similar) which was invented by Thulasi. (I know you will argue that Natesa Sharma died due to the fall - my assumption is that the injection that the rowdy gave him was the poison and not as given to believe). Who else has better access to it apart from Thulasi?

... pattern : Names of Shiva. Most male characters are named after Shiva.
Exceptions: Padmaraj, Vishnu, Seethapathy, Isakki, Anbarasu, Mani

First things first. At the risk of sounding repetitive, do we know anything from Natesa Sharma's autopsy? In its absense, I would agree that the rowdy was actually given a syringe with poison and it was the posion that actually killed Sharma and not the fall.

Now, are you saying Vishnu uses the gratitude these people have for kadavuL? So Vishnu should have great control over this kadavuL. Could it be his dad?

Also, it was the editor who tells Somu that the poison was invented by Thulasi. If he was involved, why would he reveal that?

And, sorry, I don't see anything significant behind many Sivan names. There are equal number of non-Sivan names too.

From: nandhunaren on Fri Jan 6 2:34:32 2006. [Full View]

thanks for the update TS and everyone else for the insights..
first of all, lets just say the poster is naga and he did prove it by changing the forum name to Hue, did he just do the change or these episodes shot way ahead? enlighten us mr. naga. also, just the fact that he has gotten all of us split our heads over this serial is a great victory in itself for him apart from the monetary aspects of it obviously. so he doesnt have to take crap from people even if he leaves some threads hanging..
secondly, i have about 69 episodes on my hard drive and i have the liberty to go back and watch them all whenever i have doubts and stuff. you may have noticed that the murders happened in the order that the names are written in the suvadi "palanisangu aranpon ambalanadesan manogaran mugammadhuperumalarumai arasanandhani sakkiseethapathi soma eswaran" so if you take this into account, palani has to be either sangaran alias tamil nambi's would have been SIL or someone that somu didnt witness being murdered which would contradict the plot. and also, naga didn't show whether the SIL's or the beggar's fingerprint was taken.
on to the next one: when adiyapadham interrogates padma, asking about the photo lab person, he gives a different name and not Prabhu (the guy that flirts with that pretty girl with padma) and we don't know why and padma might be an accomplice of kadavuL.
next one: i might be wrong on this one, but the person that gets akash's photo had some kinda of a bracelet on and had a yellow/sandhana color shirt on and about two scenes later, someone shows up at anbarasu's house claiming he is manohar's brother and he had the same color shirt on and he didn't fit the scar guy's physique .. so dont' know who this guy is.
about natesa sarma: when he gets killed (not the flashback by asraf, the actual murder itself) i could clearly see that he gets tripped over by someone that was using their legs and they show this right after his fingerprint is taken. so either asraf is lying or this was just a loophole...

important one: i dont know if you guys have already discussed this in the forum but the fake suvadi that anbarasu makes up which is a copy of another person's suvadi (if you may remember, it is the suvadi of a person "appanukku upadhesam sonna aindhezhuthu perudaiyavan"). i thought this could be 'kumaraguru' (the editor/God).. TS, i am pretty sure kumaraguru is murugar's name. so i thought it spells five letters in tamil and prob that 's his suvadi and this will all be solved when mani starts to read his suvadi. am i totallly wrong on this one?
From: svasu_ani on Fri Jan 6 4:22:05 2006. [Full View]

Hi,

If a cure can be found for AIDS, the market will be large for the medicine and the profit is huge. So it can be like a gang operating on this .. Instead of pointing it on a single person..we can look at the possibilty of certain people operating behind this...

They can be Kumaraguru , then somu's dads friend who is a businessman, then a 3rd person this person can be kadavul or master of operation..

there is one more thing to note also..which is abt Vishnu..Vishnu's parents died at young age..again theres a chance that he could hve been brought up by the kadavul...

We need to wait for somu to meet akash again and akash has to handover chayas letter...Maybe that contain some important info...

And if Arthi earlier tht is before being kidnapped had found some information..remmeber she telling padma over phone to pass on info to somu tht it is not manohar..why cant she tell that now to somu,.anyway she is able to move her hands...

And some one must hve motivated or provoked a thought in thulasi to inject herself with AIDS.....and then injecting herself with AIDS happened after marriage with vishnu..

So many possibilties...lets wait and see how naaga is bringing everything together...

Anitha
From: dsankaran on Fri Jan 6 11:46:22 2006. [Full View]

Hi all, Nice to see a flurry of activity in this thread. Thanks to all the updaters for religiously posting the updates. Helps people like me who don't have Sun TV.

Although I read the updates, the knots and twists in the storyline and the pace makes me feel as though I am missing a lot by not being able to watch this on TV. Also, I am reading all of your comments on Vidadhu Karuppu and Marma Desam. Are these serials on CD and are they being sold anywhere? If so, please let me know. I am very interested in purchasing these.

Coming back to CR, I have this weird feeling that YGM might be the Kadavul and might have the bi-polar disease (split personality) or something so that one personality doesn't know anything about the other. YGM being a doc himself and Mangai, Vishnu, Tulasi being in the medical line makes me think that. (Plus the beggar's writing "LI enbadhu Thillai-yin edhirmarai")

There is no chance that Aarthi might have any clue about her dad's involvement.

In the most recent comments, I read that "it is confirmed that Savirimuthu is the scarman. How and when was this confirmed?

Enjoy!

From: detective on Fri Jan 6 12:28:30 2006.

nandhunaren wrote:

palani has to be either sangaran alias tamil nambi's would have been SIL or someone that somu didnt witness being murdered which would contradict the plot. and also, naga didn't show whether the SIL's or the beggar's fingerprint was taken.

Sangaran alias Tamil Nambi?? Does he have two names in the serial? Somu does take the fingerprint of the beggar and learns that he was a mathmatician, but we did not anybody taking the FP of the SIL. Also, neither of them dies by the lethal injection. So, I am not sure if either one is part of the list.

nandhunaren wrote:

when adiyapadham interrogates padma he gives a different name and not Prabhu

Then how do we know the name 'Prabu'?

nandhunaren wrote:

but the person that gets akash's photo had some kinda of a bracelet on and had a yellow/sandhana color shirt on and about two scenes later, someone shows up at anbarasu's house claiming he is manohar's brother and he had the same color shirt on and he didn't fit the scar guy's physique .. so dont' know who this guy is.

Also, I think it is this guy that injects the poison into Isakki, based on what we see. And Isakki seems to know him personally, because he starts saying something like, "How many times have I told you not to ask for money....."

nandhunaren wrote:

natesa sarma: when he gets killed i could clearly see that he gets tripped over by someone that was using their legs and they show this right after his fingerprint is taken. so either asraf is lying or this was just a loophole...

Good catch. If Ashraf is lying, then there is no guarantee that the others were true. That would complicate the issue further. So it better be a directional discontinuity.

Naagaa, is it within your limits to confirm this?

nandhunaren wrote:

the fake suvadi that anbarasu makes up which is a copy of another person's suvadi (if you may remember, it is the suvadi of a person "appanukku upadhesam sonna aindhezhuthu perudaiyavan"). i thought this could be 'kumaraguru' (the editor/God).. TS, i am pretty sure kumaraguru is murugar's name. so i thought it spells five letters in tamil and prob that 's his suvadi and this will all be solved when mani starts to read his suvadi. am i totallly wrong on this one?

Well, we have to wait and see.....

From: detective on Fri Jan 6 12:37:05 2006.

svasu_ani wrote:

And if Arthi earlier tht is before being kidnapped had found some information..remmeber she telling padma over phone to pass on info to somu tht it is not manohar..why cant she tell that now to somu,.anyway she is able to move her hands...

Well, there are many such questions.

1. AC, with his resources, could have found out who helped Kandhan in his childhood. He is content sitting in front of his laptop drinking Aquafina.

2. It is obvious that Somu is being followed by the AC's men. That is how they even get to Dr. Mangai. Why can't they take him into custody and interrogate him, to get more info?

It all boils down to how many more episodes Naaga has committed to his sponsors. Like TS said, that is his business and he is trying to give as much quality as possible.

From: detective on Fri Jan 6 12:40:53 2006.

dsankaran wrote:

YGM might be the Kadavul and might have the bi-polar disease (split personality) ...... In the most recent comments, I read that "it is confirmed that Savirimuthu is the scarman. How and when was this confirmed?

But looks like the "split-personality" concept was already used by Naagaa in another serial. Would he repeat that??

And there is no confirmation from the serial about Savarimuthu. We just confirmed among ourselves.

Smile

From: nandhunaren on Sat Jan 7 1:39:16 2006. [Full View]

Sangaran alias Tamil Nambi?? Does he have two names in the serial? Somu does take the fingerprint of the beggar and learns that he was a mathmatician, but we did not anybody taking the FP of the SIL. Also, neither of them dies by the lethal injection. So, I am not sure if either one is part of the list.

Yes, sangaran was such a tamil fanatic that he changed his name to tamil nambi. yes, we do know that somu took the beggar's FP but we don't know if the beggar had ink on his finger when he was lying dead. and yes, i think palani could be someone other than the beggar/SIL since everybody is saying somu should pursue this guy. maybe he is still alive and that the list is prob making a circle, starting with sangaran ending with palani

Then how do we know the name 'Prabu'?

I just happened to catch the Prabhu when padma introduces him to chaya and then prabhu tries to flirt with her. i know for sure that his name is prabhu and padma gives a diff name to the AC

Also, I think it is this guy that injects the poison into Isakki, based on what we see. And Isakki seems to know him personally, because he starts saying something like, "How many times have I told you not to ask for money....."

good observation here..

If Ashraf is lying, then there is no guarantee that the others were true. That would complicate the issue further. So it better be a directional discontinuity.

If all the witnesses actually are lying, that makes it very complicated for us to solve any of this. please mr. naga don't do this to us
From: nandhunaren on Sat Jan 7 1:41:35 2006. [Full View]

dsankaran wrote:

YGM being a doc himself and Mangai, Vishnu, Tulasi being in the medical line makes me think that. (Plus the beggar's writing "LI enbadhu Thillai-yin edhirmarai")

very good observation there.
From: Naaga on Sun Jan 8 13:29:59 2006. [Full View]

dsankaran wrote:

(Plus the beggar's writing "LI enbadhu Thillai-yin edhirmarai")

Sankaran, its the otherway around.........yes, "ethirmarai" can be bothways........and the statement does make perfect sense.......

But prefer it the way i have used it in the serial......."Thillai enbadhu LI-yin ethirmarai".......and that's the way it is spelt out in my beginning titles too.

Had been shooting for the last two days......just got to read the forum.
From: nandhunaren on Sun Jan 8 22:56:22 2006. [Full View]

so mr. naaga you had said that you had been shooting for the last two days. so every week's episode is shot the week before? that must give a lot of wiggling room with the script to just change it however you want to. i just hope the sponsors and the network dont get a say in changing the course of the serial. that would be devastating. eagerly waiting for next week's episode.

From: rein on Sun Jan 8 23:47:03 2006.

Naaga wrote:

dsankaran wrote:

(Plus the beggar's writing "LI enbadhu Thillai-yin edhirmarai")

Sankaran, its the otherway around.........yes, "ethirmarai" can be bothways........and the statement does make perfect sense.......

But prefer it the way i have used it in the serial......."Thillai enbadhu LI-yin ethirmarai".......and that's the way it is spelt out in my beginning titles too.

Had been shooting for the last two days......just got to read the forum.

can someone please tell me what "edhirmarai" means? Does it mean opposite?I'm not really sure, what it means! If I ask my dad for the meaning he'll be like, this is what you do rather study, so the help would be appreciated.

Also if you really are Mr. Naaga himself and this isn't some sort of hoax, I'd just like to say "Hats of to you!" Your doing an excellent job, I just hope you maintain the integrity of the show, without falling prey to the advertisers pressures.

Smile

Everyone who watches this show( I refuse to call it serial) is going crazy out frustration!

From: ram.kbs on Mon Jan 9 3:27:09 2006.

detective wrote:

2. It is obvious that Somu is being followed by the AC's men. That is how they even get to Dr. Mangai. Why can't they take him into custody and interrogate him, to get more info?

Are they real cops? if so, AC would busy with investigation.
I guess, Natarajan is kadavul(Natarajn ; siva's name in chithambaram)
Because, nat came to AC's office for bail and kandhan was stunned and how does nat knows about it?

now I suspect, detective.... are you from naga's team?

From: ts on Mon Jan 9 6:51:43 2006. [Full View]

I am opening this since the name "palani" has been mentioned so many times in the last few posts.

The Nadi says Palani is the first to die (if we take it in that order). Thulasi's had thanked Palani in her post.

Tea Samiyar suggests to Somu that if he catches the one (not the kadavul) he will get the whole picture. He is obiviously referring to Palani.

The Rs.10 man asks Somu to go after Palani and not Kadavul.

All these characters indiacte that Palani, even though first in the list, is still alive. This means that the list is not in proper order or that some other palani lost his life.

My question for the day : Is the Scarman Palani?
We took him for Savarimuthu but he could as well be Palani himself. May be he will lose his life later... and will be the 12th one to die...when Somu finds him !

Disclaimer: (After reading the previous post)
I am in no way connected to the serial or related to Naga/SunTV. I am a big fan of Naga's work (thrillers) and thats pretty much it. I dont even live in the same continent where this serial is made.
From: karthik_rcs on Mon Jan 9 7:22:31 2006. [Full View]

[quote] took him for Savarimuthu but he could as well be Palani himself. May be he will lose his life later... and will be the 12th one to
[quote]
Hi ts,
thats really g8 inspection. APart from this , we have this

"Ennodu serthu ini moovar kadasiyil agathiyan"

1. Dumb beggar [ I like him for his terrible acting ]
2. Tea Samiyar
3. New Person Now [ he is the same person who comes as baba in rudra veenai serial by naga]
4. WHo cud be last agathiyan

SOmu nadi says that he will meet agathiyan this piravi.

Agathiyan [ sage who has written scripts related to medicine and alchemy]

Who could be this?
From: ram.kbs on Mon Jan 9 9:16:11 2006. [Full View]

detective wrote:

And there is no confirmation from the serial about Savarimuthu. We just confirmed among ourselves.

am talking abt this detective.

ts : i didn't mention about you.

Naga is changing the topic yaar, now he is playing with palani. So we start talking abt palani. 2maro he will use some other name. Lot of things are there
1. what akash is doing these days?
2. AC is also investigating in some other way. (looks like, he is shooting in the dark)
3. Next is our great CBI, simply they are catching Nadi reader and Dr. Mangai, etc ....... what they are doing?

Naetru KADAVUL
Indru PALANI
Nalai ........

donno

From: detective on Mon Jan 9 11:33:25 2006.

karthik_rcs wrote:

Hello TS,detective,
I watched the serial, there is a slight hidden clue for who could be behind these things. please watch it. WIll tell you once u post the episode summary..

karthik_rcs, what was that clue you spotted? You have not posted that yet.

rein wrote:

can someone please tell me what "edhirmarai" means? Does it mean opposite?

Yes, it does mean opposite.

ram.kbs wrote:

now I suspect, detective.... are you from naga's team?

No, I am not. Just like TS said, I am not connected to Naga. I am just another viewer who has some extra time to spare.

I don't think Palani is alive. When tea saamiyaar and Mr.10_rupees ask Somu to go in search of him, they are probably saying, "Investigate his killing", rather than, "Find him".

And I have an additional reason to suspect 10_rupees in Sivan Himself. Remember he wanted to eat poison as if it was candy?? In Hindu mythology, Sivan is believed to have eaten poison that stuck in his throat and hence the name Neelagandan.

idhu eppadi irukku??

From: Naaga on Mon Jan 9 13:05:38 2006.

nandhunaren wrote:

so mr. naaga you had said that you had been shooting for the last two days. so every week's episode is shot the week before? that must give a lot of wiggling room with the script to just change it however you want to. i just hope the sponsors and the network dont get a say in changing the course of the serial. that would be devastating. eagerly waiting for next week's episode.

Nandhunaren......that's reading a lil too much in my words....shooting still.......not the next week's episode......but that which would be coming on air next month.......will be shooting for another two more days and after a break of three days for Pongal, i will be continuing to shoot.

From: Naaga on Mon Jan 9 13:16:28 2006.

Disclaimer: (After reading the previous post)
I am in no way connected to the serial or related to Naga/SunTV. I am a big fan of Naga's work (thrillers) and thats pretty much it. I dont even live in the same continent where this serial is made.

Let me put an end to this once for all.......there is nobody here, who i know or associate with in any manner whatsoever outside this forum....that is antha "Kadavul" mel anayaga!

And i hereby declare that, I AM NAGA, the one and only director of the serial Chidambara Ragasiyam.......(Oh God, i felt like God saying the last one)

From: awatal on Mon Jan 9 15:30:09 2006. [Full View]

So now that we know "You are Naga" the director of the show, and that you are making us part of your show thru the hub pages...where did you get inspiration to make a serial based on Nadi Josiyam?

After seeing this serial, I am tempted to go looking for mine too...

Good work and keep it up in this and all other serials.

You can be sure that once this show is over, you will be pounded with questions and loop holes on how you arrived at the killer.

Be prepared!
From: sreeramtcs on Tue Jan 10 0:45:25 2006. [Full View]

I want to share the meaning of Chidambara Rahasiyam to all of u. Some of u might b knowing the meaning already. In the Chidambara Nadarajan temple there used to be a place that was always kept covered by screen. People were never used to see wat was inside it. Hence this place was known as chidambara rahasiyam. But later studies indicate that this room covered with screen has nothing inside. After tat the word 'Chidambara Rahasiyam' is used to refer to a scret that creates lots of hipe and expectation but finally turns out to nothing meaningful. I heard this story from my friend. Am not sure how much this is correct. Please send ur opinion on this.
Finally i dont want this serial also to be like the actually Chidambara Rahasiyam(meaningless thing).

From: ram.kbs on Tue Jan 10 5:03:42 2006.

Naaga wrote:

Disclaimer: (After reading the previous post)
I am in no way connected to the serial or related to Naga/SunTV. I am a big fan of Naga's work (thrillers) and thats pretty much it. I dont even live in the same continent where this serial is made.

Let me put an end to this once for all.......there is nobody here, who i know or associate with in any manner whatsoever outside this forum....that is antha "Kadavul" mel anayaga!

And i hereby declare that, I AM NAGA, the one and only director of the serial Chidambara Ragasiyam.......(Oh God, i felt like God saying the last one)

My mind is started thinking pathetically... thats why i asked that q?
sorry ts/detective.

am suprised. got a crystal clear explaination from gr8naga.

I think, effect of CR. "Pootruvaar Pootrallum ....... naga-vaiyae sarum"

innum itha mathiri sollanumna sollungha, solluraen, appurama
mail pannungha KADAVUL yarrunu.

From: ts on Tue Jan 10 5:57:21 2006.

sreeramtcs wrote:

I want to share the meaning of Chidambara Rahasiyam to all of u. Some of u might b knowing the meaning already. In the Chidambara Nadarajan temple there used to be a place that was always kept covered by screen. People were never used to see wat was inside it. Hence this place was known as chidambara rahasiyam. But later studies indicate that this room covered with screen has nothing inside. After tat the word 'Chidambara Rahasiyam' is used to refer to a scret that creates lots of hipe and expectation but finally turns out to nothing meaningful. I heard this story from my friend. Am not sure how much this is correct. Please send ur opinion on this.
Finally i dont want this serial also to be like the actually Chidambara Rahasiyam(meaningless thing).

According to Hindu mythology, the five elements are considered as forms of Sivan aka Pancha Bhutams. Nilam - Earth, Neer - Water, Netuppu - Fire, Katru - Vayu and Akasam - Ether. Lord Siva manifests in each of these forms in temples around Tamilnadu. Nilam - Kanchipuram, Neer - Thiruvanaikkaval, Neruppu - Thiruvannamalai, Katru - Kalahasti and Akasam - Chidambaram. There are five sannidhis in the Thiruvarur Temple where the pancha bhuta forms are worshipped as Achaleswarar, Anadeswarar, Hatakeswarar, Valmikeswarar and Siddiswarar.

The Chidambara Rahasiyam itself is the Akasa Lingam which is not visible to the eye. It has to be realised/felt, which takes a great deal of Gnanam to achieve. There is no Hype or anything here and please do not slander or rubbish thigs that you dont realise/understand.

From: Naaga on Tue Jan 10 6:36:10 2006. [Full View]

To add to that TS......
The Ragasiyam in the temple is supposed to be a Yantram carved on the walls behind the deity. It is claimed as a highly potent yantram and hence the poojas and other rituals are performed by a specific sect among the Dikshitars of Chidambaram. The others are not even allowed to touch it......(That's why when you ask for the Ragasiyam to be shown, the archakar at the Sanctum tells you to wait till a specific person comes to reveal it..)

The beauty of the concept is the usage of light play to create emptiness......The yantram itself is darkened by using a mixture of various aromatic substances.......

Then there are these golden vilva leaves strung in front...and when the Ragasiyam is revealed by lifting up the curtain in front and aarthi shown.....the light from the aarthi reflects off the golden leaves and creates an high contrast, deepening the background (yantram) further......giving us a sense of absolute darkness.....the space.
From: ts on Tue Jan 10 7:44:58 2006. [Full View]

Thanks Naaga !

Some more details.....

The Cit Sabha (hall of bliss - the main shrine @ Cidambaram) is a great example of enthusiasm for idealism and physical reality of the supernatural.. as someone put it !

There are two states of being: �sakala� or visible, and �nishkala� or invisible/transcendent
it requires great gnanam to see the nishkala .

The Cit-Akasa Rahasyam is the Supreme Siva who is in the nishkala form here.

The curtain in the cit sabha is lifted 3 times at the end of puja by the officiating Dikshitar

From: ssanjinika on Tue Jan 10 9:37:27 2006.

sreeramtcs wrote:

I want to share the meaning of Chidambara Rahasiyam to all of u. Some of u might b knowing the meaning already. In the Chidambara Nadarajan temple there used to be a place that was always kept covered by screen. People were never used to see wat was inside it. Hence this place was known as chidambara rahasiyam. But later studies indicate that this room covered with screen has nothing inside. After tat the word 'Chidambara Rahasiyam' is used to refer to a scret that creates lots of hipe and expectation but finally turns out to nothing meaningful. I heard this story from my friend. Am not sure how much this is correct. Please send ur opinion on this.
Finally i dont want this serial also to be like the actually Chidambara Rahasiyam(meaningless thing).

Its nothing like this!!!

From: nandhunaren on Tue Jan 10 14:19:25 2006.

I am opening this since the name "palani" has been mentioned so many times in the last few posts.

The Nadi says Palani is the first to die (if we take it in that order). Thulasi's had thanked Palani in her post.

Tea Samiyar suggests to Somu that if he catches the one (not the kadavul) he will get the whole picture. He is obiviously referring to Palani.

The Rs.10 man asks Somu to go after Palani and not Kadavul.

All these characters indiacte that Palani, even though first in the list, is still alive. This means that the list is not in proper order or that some other palani lost his life.

My question for the day : Is the Scarman Palani?
We took him for Savarimuthu but he could as well be Palani himself. May be he will lose his life later... and will be the 12th one to die...when Somu finds him !

Disclaimer: (After reading the previous post)
I am in no way connected to the serial or related to Naga/SunTV. I am a big fan of Naga's work (thrillers) and thats pretty much it. I dont even live in the same continent where this serial is made.

i had raised the same issue in one of my previous posts TS. my presumption is that maybe the names are going to come in a full circle like that mute beggar guy was drawing all the time. lets see if our hunch is true..
and thanks to mr. naga and TS , we atleast get an idea of what the actual CR could be and the logic behind it.
mr. naga i was just asking you if you shot the episodes just the week before because you said the Hub will be changed to Hue and there it was after 2 days. anyway enjoy your pongal break everyone.
i just hope there isn't too many nuances and clues in the show that people like me who rely on detective and TS ' posts can't catch on. let's see what naga has in store for us tomorrow..

From: detective on Tue Jan 10 15:35:38 2006. [Full View]

nandhunaren wrote:

mr. naga i was just asking you if you shot the episodes just the week before because you said the Hub will be changed to Hue and there it was after 2 days.

Well, that could have happened in two other ways also.

1. Naga had already filmed the episode with "HUE" for some reason. It could even be an HTML error by the guy who created those pages. We would have never noticed that. But Naga used that to substantiate his claim that he was indeed Naga.

2. Naga could have edited the already filmed episode for those 2 seconds where HUB is shown and replaced it with footage showing HUE.

The latter involves more work so I think the former is more likely.
From: nandhunaren on Tue Jan 10 21:29:57 2006. [Full View]

i agree with you. i am just totally fascinated by the idea that the show is being shot as we speak and the creator is interacting with us and enjoying how we tear apart it apart and is trying to get better at what he does if its possible.
anyway, detective, the icon you got , is it a universal one for detectives or did tamilvanan come up with it?

From: Naaga on Wed Jan 11 0:03:21 2006.

detective wrote:

nandhunaren wrote:

mr. naga i was just asking you if you shot the episodes just the week before because you said the Hub will be changed to Hue and there it was after 2 days.

Well, that could have happened in two other ways also.

1. Naga had already filmed the episode with "HUE" for some reason. It could even be an HTML error by the guy who created those pages. We would have never noticed that. But Naga used that to substantiate his claim that he was indeed Naga.

Detective that's precisely it....except for one thing. You cant err with the pictures in HTML....

nandhunaren wrote:

anyway, detective, the icon you got , is it a universal one for detectives or did tamilvanan come up with it?

Spooky.......!!!! In today's episode, detective's icon features prominently......and while shooting it, i was wondering the same.

From: ts on Wed Jan 11 5:28:27 2006. [Full View]

Wow ! ! !

"Detective" has been immortalised .....
Congrats !
From: karthik_rcs on Wed Jan 11 7:57:29 2006. [Full View]

Hello Naga,
I have been watching this serail rite from my episode1.
I come from office early on wednesday only to watch this.
I have been spiritually moved by this serial.

When the title begins, there will be a natarajar shown rite,
I used to standup infront of the tv and raise my hands in praying position above my head [ like we used to pray when seeing the temple gopuram or kalasam ]

I saw in vidatha karupu and this serial , there is always a character who seems confused or enlightened by the devotional or spiritual powers and trying to identify the purpose or motto of his/her own creation..

VIDATHA KARUPU -Dr.Nanda
CR - ThillaiRajan

I used to goto temple, after this serial , i am even more devotional.

I started learning this biometrics....[ridges,bifurcations, loop,valleys]

1. I also think , TRajan could be agathiyan.....?

Question:
When trying to find the answer for the presence of origami ?

I thought you could have kept KOLAM [ Margazhi kolam ]
could be normal one...

it could also match to the phrase

"ELLAME KODU THAN ELLAME KANAKU THAN.."

THen since there is already some serial called kolangal, you could have kept origami.

Naga, Kindly comment
From: nandhunaren on Wed Jan 11 10:40:46 2006. [Full View]

the whole point of origamy featured in the show in my understanding is that, the paper, no matter how big it is, can be molded into any shape and when all the shapes are undone, all you get is a bunch of lines. so, lets say you made about 10 different shapes with the same 25 sq cm paper and undid all of them to get a whole bunch of lines, maybe that defines 10 different people's destiny. based on the kind of lines that are destined for you, you turn out to be that shape..
or maybe i am reading too much into this and missing the whole point?

From: detective on Wed Jan 11 10:43:09 2006.

Naaga wrote:

detective wrote:

Naga had already filmed the episode with "HUE" for some reason. It could even be an HTML error

Detective that's precisely it....except for one thing. You cant err with the pictures in HTML....

nandhunaren wrote:

anyway, detective, the icon you got , is it a universal one for detectives or did tamilvanan come up with it?

Spooky.......!!!! In today's episode, detective's icon features prominently......and while shooting it, i was wondering the same.

So you purposely created an image (was it even an image, or was it text in some huge font size??) saying "THE HUE"?? Makes sense. It would save you from unnecessary copyright fights.

And I never thought if ThamizhvaaNan created the icon. I thought "detective" will be an apt name for this forum and when I wanted an icon, this was the first thing that came up to my mind. Off course, the first investigative stories I read, were thamizhvaaNan's. I googled it and came up with this icon.

From: eezee on Wed Jan 11 11:29:59 2006. [Full View]

I got Sun TV only in early 2005 and thanks to Detective and TS could follow what happened in the past. Hats off to Naaga to have conceived such a great serial. As I follow on the Hub, a lot of dissection have been going on and let me add what I feel as well.

1. I too DON'T think editor is Kadavul for the simple fact that the "10 Rs guy" tells Somu he "would" see Kadavul this janmam. So Somu hadnt met kadavul as yet. Also, if Thulasi is indeed Kumaraguru's daughter, he didnt have to communicate over a public forum to express his support for her.

2. I may be totally off track on this, but I remember the dumb beggar drawing a sthala viruksham mentioning 9 and 7 on both the sides. He might have actually drawn the GGF's family tree and somehow Akash and Somu (and weirdly even Thulasi and Mangai) maybe the first or second cousins. Also this could explain the two group theory. One after the cure for Aids and the other trying to prevent the first group from finding.

Also, as someone pointed out it maybe MPD with Thillai and LI having alter egos but I remember Mangai keeping the cellphone on while Thillai was explaining the 12 ppl (incorrectly though) while the periyavar was listening to it, so if Thillairajan has an alter ego then Periyavar who listens to it must not be the Kadavul - too complicated, so I dont think Thillairajan has MPD.

Again, Kudos to Naaga to have come up with a great concept and I liked the way he tried to explain a little on "Advaita" through the siddhar a couple of episodes back.

This is the first tamil serial I have watched in a very long time. So, if someone can tell me where I can purchase other Naaga serials in the US, I would greatly appreciate it.
From: karthik_rcs on Wed Jan 11 11:39:40 2006. [Full View]

hi detective,
Just finished seeing today CR episode. As said by Naga, you are coming in that

i mean ur icon is coming great man. u were able to be present in the legend serial by Naga.

G8.

From: detective on Wed Jan 11 11:49:12 2006.

eezee wrote:

1. I too DON'T think editor is Kadavul for the simple fact that the "10 Rs guy" tells Somu he "would" see Kadavul this janmam. So Somu hadnt met kadavul as yet.

Also, as someone pointed out it maybe MPD with Thillai and LI having alter egos but I remember Mangai keeping the cellphone on while Thillai was explaining the 12 ppl (incorrectly though) while the periyavar was listening to it

By that logic, even Vishnu (ex-husband) cannot be kadavul. Same with Mugilan, Natarajan (somu's dad). Somu has already met all of them.
Your second point is right, though. It is very solid proof that Dr.Thillai is not behind this.

From: ts on Wed Jan 11 12:05:18 2006.

detective wrote:

eezee wrote:

1. I too DON'T think editor is Kadavul for the simple fact that the "10 Rs guy" tells Somu he "would" see Kadavul this janmam. So Somu hadnt met kadavul as yet.

Also, as someone pointed out it maybe MPD with Thillai and LI having alter egos but I remember Mangai keeping the cellphone on while Thillai was explaining the 12 ppl (incorrectly though) while the periyavar was listening to it

By that logic, even Vishnu (ex-husband) cannot be kadavul. Same with Mugilan, Natarajan (somu's dad). Somu has already met all of them.
Your second point is right, though. It is very solid proof that Dr.Thillai is not behind this.

Trying to see beyond the logic, all that was said is that Somu will see "kadavul" in this janmam.... doesnt mean that he has not met this person before. Somu could have known this person as someone else ... he will definitely see him as "kadavul" in this janmam...is what i understand from it...

From: ts on Wed Jan 11 12:11:50 2006. [Full View]

Some logical questions that annoy me...

Somu has the receipt of the travel company that scarman used. He got it at anbarasu's house. Why has he not done anything on those lines to track the scarman ?

Kanthan, mangai and Anbarasu clearly state that they did it for Kadavul. Kandan has spoken to Kadavul a few times... Mangai must have done that too.. why is the AC not checking their Cellphone/landline records to treace who Kadavul is ? He seems to be satisfied with an internet connection and a bottle of Aquafina .. as detective phad put it... (that is unless Kadavul is using a prepaid telephone in which case tracking is next to impossible)

From: ssanjinika on Wed Jan 11 13:02:13 2006.

Some logical questions that annoy me...

Somu has the receipt of the travel company that scarman used. He got it at anbarasu's house. Why has he not done anything on those lines to track the scarman ?

Thats absolutely correct.He seems to have forgotton all about the travel company.

Another thing which is a thorn in my side is the fact that somu absolutely refuses to believe in nadi josiyam(thats what he tells akash anyway).He is a guy who was researching this topic and now hes on the run because of it.He knows people are getting killed and their thumb impressions are being taken ,in fact his own thumb impression was taken .He very well knows that thumb impressions are used to find a persons nadi.In spite of all this he dosent believe in nadi josiyam..he is infact not even a little curious to know what that nadi contains??
OFcourse it could be that he wasnt sure of Akash and thats the reason why he dosent believe that ,that bundle was in fact his nadi..anyways was wondering on that.

From: detective on Wed Jan 11 15:20:05 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Mangai must have done that too.. why is the AC not checking their Cellphone/landline records to treace who Kadavul is?

A sudden thought!!! What guarantee do we have that the people who apprehended Anbarasu and Mangai, were really policemen?? We don't see the AC interrogating them. He is trying to contact the studio guy. Plus, the people who "arrested" them saw Somu, but let him escape in front of their eyes. But the A/C is asking Somu to surrender. Isn't this an anomaly?

So me thinks these "policemen" belong to the other group, catching people loyal to kadavul one by one, trying to find something. You buy this??
From: dsankaran on Wed Jan 11 16:17:45 2006. [Full View]

Hi all,

Posting this question again. Are other Naaga creations (Vidaadhu Karuppu, Marma Desam) available as CDs, Video cassettes anywhere? Please let me know.

Thanks
D

From: aanaa on Wed Jan 11 17:46:01 2006.

karthik_rcs wrote:

hi detective,
Just finished seeing today CR episode. As said by Naga, you are coming in that

i mean ur icon is coming Smile

Smile

great man. u were able to be present in the legend serial by Naga.

G8.

thats too fast

we have to wait for another 5 hours

From: aanaa on Wed Jan 11 17:50:17 2006. [Full View]

eezee wrote:

...
So, if someone can tell me where I can purchase other Naaga serials in the US, I would greatly appreciate it.

Naga can advise - since follows the threads - where we can purchase other dramas
From: ts on Wed Jan 11 18:16:07 2006. [Full View]

Somu comes back to Arthis house and looks out for the police. He sees someone trying to open the gate and tries to hide. It is the tea samiyar. Samiyar asks him to go inside the house. He tells somu that he had asked the policemen to go an get some tea... Somu opens the door.Samiyar asks him to read the pages well...

Somu goes to Arthi's room and asks her about the web pages. Archana seeshim and comes near Arthi. Arthi asks her to open the book and writes "Pazhaniai unakku..." when Sivakami comes there. They stop writing and Somu pretends to have come to see Arthi. He tells Sivakami that Arthi knows something about the killers and thats why they kidnapped her. Sivakami takes him outside the room and asks him not to involve Arthi into this ever again. She pleads to somu and tells him that they've had enough. Somu asks her to help him this one time. He tells her that he is so close to catching the culprits and needs help. He says that he really doesnt like to go to jail. He tells her that he considers Arthi as his wife and will not ger her into any trouble. Meanwhile, Archana holds the book and Arthi writes on it.
Archana gives it to Somu. It asks Somu to go upstairs and check on another directory in the PC. Somu hears a car and checks thru the window. He sees AC Adiyapatham coming and panics. He runs into the adjacent room and tries to hide. AC comes into the house and tels Sivakami that it is a courtesy visit. He scans thru the house and tries to go into the room that Somu is hiding in. Archana tells him that it is her room and guides him to Arthi's room. He asks Arthi as to how she is doing and she gives him a thumbs up!. AC asks Sivakami if Somu had been there. She tells him that Somu had not been there at all. AC tells her that his information says otherwise. Sivakami tells him that Somu came there once but left immediately, even without informing them. AC sees somu's specs and enquires about it. Archana tells him that it is her glasses and takes it along with the book that arthi had written into. Under the book, AC sees the web page printouts which shows Thulasi's profile with her picture. Archana tells the AC that it was about Origamy and she had printed it off the net. AC tells her that he is interested in origami and that he will keep them.
He leaves the house and smiles to himself when Archana bangs the door behind him in a hurry.

Archana gives Somu his specs and tells him that the AC had taken his printouts. Somu asks her not to bother about it. They go upstairs to the PC and somu looks at the file. This is from Palani's blogspot where we can see his detective "avatar" clearly. It says that he has a cure for Aids. Palani says that he had sought his nadi which told him about the 12 nadis and the cure for aids. Thulasi had responded to it and there are several posts where they talk about sharing royalty etc...
One post says that Palani had died in an accident. Somu is devastrated. He realises that Arthi had asked him to look at Palani's profile and tries to see it in the page. The machine is not connected to net and hence he cant see it. He closes the webpage and sees a file titled "profile". He opens it and it is the profile of Palani. Arthi had saved it too. He scrolls down the page and sees Palani's picture. It is indeed the person who died in the road accident (tanker)... Tamil Vadhiyar's would be son-in-law. Somu exclaims that it was not an accident but a murder...that he had witnessed...
He tells Archana that he has to go to Neithal office so that he can get more information for He had asked Chaya to follow this up and report. He tells her that there must be some note on his desk or file regarding this. Archana asks him not to rush as the AC had left the house very suspiciously. She asks him to wait for sometime. He seems to agree with her.

He then looks for the keyboard CD that Arthi had asked them to look out for. He finds it in the wall and opens it. The scarman's diary that Arthi got from Anbarasu's house falls out of it. He checks on the page that Arthi wanted him to check (Index N) and the number is that of Neithal Publication.... Somu wonders as to why neithal's number is there who in Neithal would be the suspect.....thodarum...
From: aanaa on Wed Jan 11 22:12:04 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Somu comes back to Arthis house .....thodarum...

too early

however thank u
From: nandhunaren on Thu Jan 12 3:20:26 2006. [Full View]

thanks a lot for the update TS....
atleast i got one thing right that the guy that was the first to die is indeed palani. and now it looks like tulasi is involved in this for sure or someone was using tulasi's identity ...

and also, it doesn't seem like naga is showing either way that somu believes and doesnt believe in nadi. he is just so keen on trying to exculpate himself that he is overlooking some facts. even after the aravanis gave them the kan thirappu which i thought was pretty funny but important to the story.
detective did raise a good question. what if these people are not iwth the police really?
and mr. naga you really showed us this time. i am almost 99% sure this is naga that is with us. how about you guys?
From: nandhunaren on Thu Jan 12 3:25:36 2006. [Full View]

oh and another thing, and i need mr. naga's explanation on this. this episode was aired a long time ago and when i first started watching the show, there was a scene where arthi was trying to look up the phone numbers from the scar man's phone book on a BSNL CD which we now know it is Neithal office's.

i was able to freeze the screen right at the very moment right before she gives that frightened look, and the screen was not showing neithal .. oddly enough, it showed one of the previous search result. not trying to find faults here but just thought it was misleading and i knew right away that it was just a mistake.. i was wondering about that all this time and finally we ahve the answer.
From: aanaa on Thu Jan 12 9:44:30 2006. [Full View]

nandhunaren wrote:

thanks a lot for the update TS....
?

agreed icon is there and Naga too

now its pointing Thulasi
From: VG on Thu Jan 12 10:25:39 2006. [Full View]

Hi Friends,
I have been following the posts for some time but became a member after I realised that the Director himself is following these. Now that we have him to answer our queries rather than us just assuming things I believe this forum is going to be more interesting in the coming days.
I assume that he himself is using this forum as a feedback & also might correct the falws or try to answer them aptly in the following episodes. Anyway great going!!

Happy New Year & a Happy Pongal to all.
From: sangeetha_me on Thu Jan 12 11:46:43 2006. [Full View]

Hi All

You guys have done a marvellous work of updating the serial regularly. This was the only serial I used to watch when I was in India and after getting here, I was missing it real bad. That is when I came across this forum ! Great work.
From: detective on Thu Jan 12 12:08:42 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

The scarman's diary that Arthi got from Anbarasu's house falls out of it

Anbarasu gives the diary to Aarthi. But now, he vows loyalty to kadavuL. So kadavul must have helped Anabarasu in some major issue between then and now. May be he bailed Anbarasu out of his debts.

But this does not sound very practical to me. I think Anabarasu has been loyal to kadavul for sometime. But at the time of giving the diary, he did not know that it was not in the best interests of kadavul. Later scarman comes to ask for his diary, Anbarasu says (after considerable threat) that it is with Aarthi. Scarman passes on that info to kadavul and they decide to kidnap her. Having kidnapped her, they decide to use her as a guinea pig as well. That will at least silence her for a while.....
From: detective on Thu Jan 12 12:24:09 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

He asks Arthi as to how she is doing and she gives him a thumbs up!.

The stupidity of these characters continue to puzzle us. An Assitant Commissioner of Police looks at a person, who was kidnapped and forced into vegetative state, holding a pen in her hand and giving him a thumbs up. Why doesn't he go to her and ask her answer some of his questions in WRITING!!!!!!!!

Also, he does not mention anything about Mangai being arrested. So I am positive she was not apprehended by police.

ts wrote:

Somu wonders as to why neithal's number is there who in Neithal would be the suspect

I wonder how long he will continue to wonder. Thulasi is chatting with a guy who is the first in the list of a series of murders, all done to get finger prints. There is a kadavul who considers Thulasi as an "apple of his eye". He has been calling the Editor "God" all the time. Off course, thulasi is apple to the editor's eyes. Why doesn't he connect the two and at least start suspecting the editor??

Frustrating!!
From: ssanjinika on Fri Jan 13 17:08:04 2006. [Full View]

Well..Somu does give an expression of realisation(atleast thats what I interpreted it as).So maybbe he has atlast started thinking on those lines?Whats happening on the Akash thread?Havent seen him for ages.Has he given up trying to trace somu?
From: gmax2k5 on Sat Jan 14 14:41:44 2006. [Full View]

would anyone like to have chidambara ragasiyam episode 78 (last episode)? I have it on my pc, its 175mb, I can upload it on megaupload or rapidshare if you guys want? let me know soon.
From: nandhunaren on Sun Jan 15 3:22:55 2006. [Full View]

last episode? you mean the latest one? coz the show is still going on right? we would definitely appreciate it if you posted it...

From: aanaa on Sun Jan 15 10:32:33 2006.

gmax2k5 wrote:

would anyone like to have chidambara ragasiyam episode 78 (last episode)? I have it on my pc, its 175mb, I can upload it on megaupload or rapidshare if you guys want? let me know soon.

how did u get last episode or the rest of it?

u mean the show ends on next week

From: gmax2k5 on Sun Jan 15 12:36:43 2006. [Full View]

yeah, i meant the latest episode, not the last one. heh. if u guys need it, u can download it from this megaupload link its 175mb. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BZBSH8K4
From: nandhunaren on Sun Jan 15 18:52:35 2006. [Full View]

my goodness gmax. . thats the best quality tv capture i have ever seen. you mind telling us how you managed to get it clear like that? you must own a DVR or TiVo or something.. i have 69 episodes on my PC and none of them would ever come close to that resolution.. thanks a lot for the upload
From: Aditya51 on Sun Jan 15 21:01:54 2006. [Full View]

Hi,

Thanks a million for the upload. It is fantastic. Would you be able to keep posting every week, if it's not too much of a bother.
From: gmax2k5 on Mon Jan 16 0:48:19 2006. [Full View]

glad u guys liked it.
From: ram.kbs on Mon Jan 16 3:16:22 2006. [Full View]

gmax2k5 wrote:

glad u guys liked it.

Thx gmax!!!
After seeing this episode,
who is padithurai???

is he serial killer?
From: ram.kbs on Mon Jan 16 7:38:58 2006. [Full View]

"If you are taking about patent rights ...."
sent it on dec 2.( was she in ind???)
"Adukkatha saeyal, sudha...". It was posted on dec 5.
"palani endra nabar namidam illai.." by suresh on dec 7.

If thullasi was in india, then it is a single thread.
If not, then who is he/she (sudha, padithurai)?

told you na detective, Naetru kadavul, Indru palani, nalai sudha....

seems like that
From: aanaa on Mon Jan 16 11:08:01 2006. [Full View]

gmax2k5 wrote:

yeah, i meant the latest episode, not the last one. heh. if u guys need it, u can download it from this megaupload link its 175mb. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BZBSH8K4

thank you

From: detective on Mon Jan 16 12:55:02 2006.

ram.kbs wrote:

"If you are taking about patent rights ...."
sent it on dec 2.( was she in ind???)
"Adukkatha saeyal, sudha...". It was posted on dec 5.
"palani endra nabar namidam illai.." by suresh on dec 7.

If thullasi was in india, then it is a single thread.
If not, then who is he/she (sudha, padithurai)?

told you na detective, Naetru kadavul, Indru palani, nalai sudha....

I don't understand what you are talking about. Where did you see all this Sudha etc? Why is there a talk about whether thulasi was in India or elsewhere? The story is happening in India and, ever since we know, thulasi has always been in India. And the dates, Dec 5 and dec 7, do not say the year, do they?

I am totally confused. Can you explain?

From: encrypter on Mon Jan 16 13:56:14 2006. [Full View]

i've been folllowing this forum for a while now. i actually stumbled upon this forum when i was doing research for the REAL chithambara ragasiyam. After reading these posts i have actually started to watch this serial and this is the first serial i ever watched.

here is wht i think is happening....

- i don't think its GOD because it is too obvious.....so i don't think the director will choose him.........also if he chooses some1 we are really familiar with then he will have a hard time explaing the details and the procedure followed.
- so keeping that in my mind there is a possibillty that a new characcter maybe introduced in the serial as the person behind all this with a flash back to show the motive.
- the characters that we suspec now such as thulasi and others can be accomplishes of that person.
- there is also a possibility as someone already mentioned that one of the characters may have a split personality.. since that is coming in the movies alot lately. (anniyan, chandramukhi), so why not in serials. but i think the chances are really low that it can be Y.G.
-i also belive that there is too groups present right now, one responsible for the murders and the other one for obtaining the fingerprints. The director is making it seem that way so it can also be that the main person behind this is making it look like two groups are behind this!
- i sat down with the phrase "thillai enbathu 'LI'in ethirmarai" but i am not going any where. so if one is ahead me please share! I can't wait for the meaning to be revealed!

any ways theses are just my thoughts.............. go ahead and criticize my thooughts. waiting to see ur responses
also thanks a million to TS and detective to the updates, you guys are the one who motivated me to watch this serial through the wonderful updates.

"the world is full of codes just waiting to be uncovered"
From: fanatic on Mon Jan 16 14:53:33 2006. [Full View]

I just joined the HUB recently and this is my first post. I followed several responses from other users and its interesting to know several view points of this intriguing episode of Naga. Perhaps he may even get an idea on how to finish the serial from guys here.

I just wanted to share my observation (vague memories) from one of the episodes. There was an episode when Thulasi goes missing and shes found in a hospital talking to a HIV affected person. God (thulasis father) sends a driver + another person (curly hair...I forgot his name though) to lookout for Thulasi. He infact mentions that the person in the curly hair is the one who knows the location well enough to search for Thulasi.

My guess, the person with that curly hair is the person with scar from the digitized faces shown in other episodes. My 2 cents on this. Comments/thoughts???

From: detective on Mon Jan 16 15:55:14 2006.

encrypter wrote:

- i sat down with the phrase "thillai enbathu 'LI'in ethirmarai" but i am not going any where. so if one is ahead me please share! I can't wait for the meaning to be revealed!

In one of the first episodes, Akash sees a series of '0's and '1's in his GGF's scratchbook. He deciphers that to be the binary representation of 'thillai'. I don't know how to do that, but that is something to look at.

One thing, though. The serial already has stuff like biometrics, internet forums, blogs and all that. I don't know if the default viewer can understand the significance of all this. Playing with binary will be too much.

From: bpbp on Mon Jan 16 20:22:08 2006. [Full View]

After a big fight for around a week, I got the activation of my account...here I am...

I am in US. I got Suntv connection in Oct 2005...I started watching CR though I didnt understand anything but still it's quite interesting...Luckily I found this website and I spent a whole week looking into each and every posts (all 42 pages) and made myself updated with the story...awesome...Hats off to Detective, TS, and others who are helping us to get the updates...And nice to see Naga in our discussion.

Thanks to Naga for giving such a great serial. But as the serial have been going for a long time with so many questions and so many puzzling characters, the end is not going to explain everything for us:-( I hope at least the end will be interesting enough for us to forget about all the questions.

From: ram.kbs on Tue Jan 17 3:54:06 2006.

detective, are you talking about this.

1110100
1101000
1101001
1101100
1101100
1100001
1101001
1100101
1101110
1100010
1100001
1110100
1101000
1110101

nothing but "thillai enbathu". ellamae onu than illaina 0 than. onnum puriyalla....

Hey! palani iranthathu dec5-7,

Someswaran (Somu) is a young journalist, working for the weekly "Neithal". His friend Padmarajan (Shakti in Annamalai) works as a photographer. Kumaraguru is their editor.

Somu once sees a beggar at the street who is talking about road kill and accident statistics. The beggar says that every 42 day, someone loses a limb in the Teynampet signal in a road accident. He also says that an accident involving a lorry is due and Somu might witness it...

That day, Somu and Padma witness an accident where a person gets crushed to death by a water tanker....

Introducing More characters....
Thulasi is the editor's daughter. She is a Phd in chemistry from a german university and is in a state of mental inbalance now. She is a schizophrenic...

thullasi was like this.

intha state irukkura thullasi patent rights pathi palani kku eppadi post panni irukka mudiyum?

start thinking on this .....

do you have any idea detective?

From: detective on Tue Jan 17 11:11:37 2006.

ram.kbs wrote:

Hey! palani iranthathu dec5-7,

Someswaran (Somu) is a young journalist, working for the weekly "Neithal". His friend Padmarajan (Shakti in Annamalai) works as a photographer. Kumaraguru is their editor.

That day, Somu and Padma witness an accident where a person gets crushed to death by a water tanker....

Introducing More characters....
Thulasi is the editor's daughter. She is a Phd in chemistry from a german university and is in a state of mental inbalance now. She is a schizophrenic...

thullasi was like this.
intha state irukkura thullasi patent rights pathi palani kku eppadi post panni irukka mudiyum?

First of all, TS started this thread and updated details (at least) FOUR MONTHS AFTER the serial actually started. I am positive that this started in the summer of 2004, while TS' postings started in November. If you look at the timestamps, you will realize that TS posted updates for many episodes in one shot. So, your dates are incorrect.

Secondly, are you trying to connect the dates on the serial and the REAL dates? I hope you are not doing this.........

Thirdly, it is almost an accepted assumption that thulasi is faking her schizophrenia. Even if she is not, people with such ailments can do many complex things right, but screw-up on simple things. For eg. Guna can pick locks on temple safes, but cannot realize that he is STEALING. Chinna thambi can sing a meaningful song, dance to the tune but ill not know what is thaali. Hence, this has become a darling for our directors as they can get away with almost ANYTHING - thulasi cannot keep her head still, but can discuss patent rights on the internet.

From: encrypter on Tue Jan 17 11:39:43 2006. [Full View]

i think detective is right. it seems tht thulasi is faking her illness to cover up for something. because if you remember back to the time when she got lost forthe first time nd was found at a hospital by savarimuthu, the doctor comments that she was behaving fine. The question is why is she faking her illness? we are given the picture that the her illness was due to the ailment she had for aids but is it? i think we can soon expect a falshback about how she met palani and hopefully how "kadavul" helped her in someway.

From: ram.kbs on Tue Jan 17 11:40:46 2006.

detective wrote:

ram.kbs wrote:

Hey! palani iranthathu dec5-7,

Someswaran (Somu) is a young journalist, working for the weekly "Neithal". His friend Padmarajan (Shakti in Annamalai) works as a photographer. Kumaraguru is their editor.

That day, Somu and Padma witness an accident where a person gets crushed to death by a water tanker....

Introducing More characters....
Thulasi is the editor's daughter. She is a Phd in chemistry from a german university and is in a state of mental inbalance now. She is a schizophrenic...

thullasi was like this.
intha state irukkura thullasi patent rights pathi palani kku eppadi post panni irukka mudiyum?

First of all, TS started this thread and updated details (at least) FOUR MONTHS AFTER the serial actually started. I am positive that this started in the summer of 2004, while TS' postings started in November. If you look at the timestamps, you will realize that TS posted updates for many episodes in one shot. So, your dates are incorrect.

Secondly, are you trying to connect the dates on the serial and the REAL dates? I hope you are not doing this.........

no i am not talking about that date. am talking about HUE's date.
now i am having cr78.avi (thx to gmax). did "pause and play" and got those info.
your second thing you know, i can't control my laughing. If so, should go to NIMHANS.

need your help gmax, am going out. hope you will upload cr79.
thx in adv.
see u guys on sunday morning.

From: ts on Tue Jan 17 13:34:13 2006. [Full View]

...so whats wrong with the date of posting at the HUE?

I dont get the point. As Detective said, i updated the first 20 or so episodes in one shot. There is no reason to suggest that Thulasi cannot hold meaningful conversations/chats/blogs. She seems normal and talks sense to her dad about mercury, origamy and her research. Also it might be that she contacted Palani in the forum when she was undergoing treatment for her aliment. We dont know the exact timeline when Palani sought his nadi, the postings and his death.

If you see the timelines from the post, the original post was done on 01-Dec-2003.

If you scroll down, the last few posts were done on "Mon Dec 05". This is obiviously not 2003 but 2005 - two years from the first post...

From: detective on Tue Jan 17 14:24:49 2006.

...so whats wrong with the date of posting at the HUE?

I dont get the point. As Detective said, i updated the first 20 or so episodes in one shot. There is no reason to suggest that Thulasi cannot hold meaningful conversations/chats/blogs. She seems normal and talks sense to her dad about mercury, origamy and her research. Also it might be that she contacted Palani in the forum when she was undergoing treatment for her aliment. We dont know the exact timeline when Palani sought his nadi, the postings and his death.

If you see the timelines from the post, the original post was done on 01-Dec-2003.

If you scroll down, the last few posts were done on "Mon Dec 05". This is obiviously not 2003 but 2005 - two years from the first post...

So the bottomline seems to be that Naga is not trying to convey anything through the dates. All we can deduce from HUE is that Pazhani sought his naadi, it had clues about 11/12 other naadis and together they may have a cure for AIDS, thulasi was interested in it and even willing to strike a business deal. This pazhani then gets killed in an accident, apparantly.

One thing is sure. The file gmax2k5 upload should be of great quality - I cannot make out a thing pausing my VCR

Sad

From: gaya3 on Tue Jan 17 18:48:38 2006. [Full View]

Hi:

I downloaded part 78. But I could only hear audio in windows media player, no video is visible. What's wrong with it?? Does everyone face the samething??
From: bpbp on Tue Jan 17 22:54:02 2006. [Full View]

gaya3 wrote:

Hi:

I downloaded part 78. But I could only hear audio in windows media player, no video is visible. What's wrong with it?? Does everyone face the samething??

It seems you dont have the required divx plugin to play AVIs. I would recommend the following open source software...

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
From: kssaran on Wed Jan 18 0:39:32 2006. [Full View]

Can We have the Update of Last week serial Please? GMax, If you have recorded it Can you please host the recorded file in the same manner?

From: ram.kbs on Wed Jan 18 5:00:36 2006.

If you see the timelines from the post, the original post was done on 01-Dec-2003.

If you scroll down, the last few posts were done on "Mon Dec 05". This is obiviously not 2003 but 2005 - two years from the first post...

yes, it is true.
But if you see the next post, it is dec 01 by paranjothi i guess. can't read properly. and he replied like "Paaratugal, olisuvadighali patri neengal Yaerkanavae Ezhuthiyathagha oru neenaivu". and next one is "ungal pooratam enna ayitru?" by muthu on dec 01.

based on this post you know, my mind is not accepting your point.

I think, it is a mistake.

Naga, waiting for your reply.

From: ts on Wed Jan 18 5:18:31 2006.

ram.kbs wrote:

If you see the timelines from the post, the original post was done on 01-Dec-2003.

If you scroll down, the last few posts were done on "Mon Dec 05". This is obiviously not 2003 but 2005 - two years from the first post...

yes, it is true.
But if you see the next post, it is dec 01 by paranjothi i guess. can't read properly. and he replied like "Paaratugal, olisuvadighali patri neengal Yaerkanavae Ezhuthiyathagha oru neenaivu". and next one is "ungal pooratam enna ayitru?" by muthu on dec 01.

based on this post you know, my mind is not accepting your point.

I think, it is a mistake.

Naga, waiting for your reply.

There are three Dec 01's between 01-Dec-2003 and 05-Dec-2005 01-Dec-2003
01-Dec-2004
01-Dec-2005

If you read it properly (underline properly)

The post on Monday 5th Dec is on 05-Dec-2005

The next post is on 07-Dec-2005 that informs of Palani's death.
In between them you see a 01-Dec post.. this says "palani ... sandehangal... krishnan".... This is not an actual post but a "quote" from the previous post from Krishnan. The date stamp is from the quote as well.

The next post is on Thu 15th Dec 2005. i dont see any confusion here!

From: Naaga on Wed Jan 18 5:45:18 2006.

ram.kbs wrote:

If you see the timelines from the post, the original post was done on 01-Dec-2003.

If you scroll down, the last few posts were done on "Mon Dec 05". This is obiviously not 2003 but 2005 - two years from the first post...

yes, it is true.
But if you see the next post, it is dec 01 by paranjothi i guess. can't read properly. and he replied like "Paaratugal, olisuvadighali patri neengal Yaerkanavae Ezhuthiyathagha oru neenaivu". and next one is "ungal pooratam enna ayitru?" by muthu on dec 01.

based on this post you know, my mind is not accepting your point.

I think, it is a mistake.

Naga, waiting for your reply.

There are three Dec 01's between 01-Dec-2003 and 05-Dec-2005 01-Dec-2003
01-Dec-2004
01-Dec-2005

If you read it properly (underline properly)

The post on Monday 5th Dec is on 05-Dec-2005

The next post is on 07-Dec-2005 that informs of Palani's death.
In between them you see a 01-Dec post.. this says "palani ... sandehangal... krishnan".... This is not an actual post but a "quote" from the previous post from Krishnan. The date stamp is from the quote as well.

The next post is on Thu 15th Dec 2005. i dont see any confusion here!

U r correct........the inbetween Dec 1 is of 2004........God! u guys are driving me nuts with ur detailing.......but its exciting...........!
I wonder, whether anybody keeping track of the screen time elapsed from the start of the serial till now!?.....that is, how long ago, in actual time, did Somu did that 'Makkal Peti'......? (I'm not talking about the telecast time)

From: ram.kbs on Wed Jan 18 5:55:42 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

The next post is on Thu 15th Dec 2005. i dont see any confusion here!

started thinking differently.
opinion differs (from mine) illaya?

this forum(HUE->palani) is like kulirkala kutta thodar mathiri irukku.........
ellame dec la than post agai irukku.

thx ts & naga.
From: ts on Wed Jan 18 6:08:39 2006. [Full View]

Thanks Naga for the clarification.

I knew that your middle name was "Meticulous" ...

From: detective on Wed Jan 18 10:42:10 2006.

There are three Dec 01's between 01-Dec-2003 and 05-Dec-2005 01-Dec-2003
01-Dec-2004
01-Dec-2005

If you read it properly (underline properly)

The post on Monday 5th Dec is on 05-Dec-2005

The next post is on 07-Dec-2005 that informs of Palani's death.
In between them you see a 01-Dec post.. this says "palani ... sandehangal... krishnan".... This is not an actual post but a "quote" from the previous post from Krishnan. The date stamp is from the quote as well.

The next post is on Thu 15th Dec 2005. i dont see any confusion here!

OK. Looks like this issue is solved. So finally, can you give us an account of WHAT happened WHEN - like Palani's first posting was Dec 2003, Thulasi's reply was in Jan 2004 etc.

From: detective on Wed Jan 18 10:48:03 2006.

Naaga wrote:

I wonder, whether anybody keeping track of the screen time elapsed from the start of the serial till now!?.....that is, how long ago, in actual time, did Somu did that 'Makkal Peti'......? (I'm not talking about the telecast time)

No idea. For those planning to do this, the info below may be handy:
1) These incidents happen around the dawn of Paarthiba year as per tamil (Hindu??) calender. There are some references to that in the serial.
2) Somu is expected to crack the puzzle in 15 after he starts solving it. If we assume he started solving it when he tracked the assistant of naadi joasiyar Mani, it is not 15 days yet!!. (Can you believe that??)

From: sangeetha_me on Wed Jan 18 12:51:50 2006. [Full View]

hey guys..iam sure today's episode is already over..what happened today? Waiting for the updates.. !
From: ts on Wed Jan 18 13:07:41 2006. [Full View]

sangeetha_me wrote:

hey guys..iam sure today's episode is already over..what happened today? Waiting for the updates.. !

Its over in India but not where i live
You will see an update early tomorrow morning
From: svasu_ani on Wed Jan 18 13:22:04 2006. [Full View]

hi

i happened to see jus one scene today.... n the inspector was telling somu tht it was kumaraguru behind these n somu wasnt ready to accept/ believe tht...n the inspector says he went thru the past of mangai n the other people who the police has arrested n it points to the editor...

waiting for ts/detective to update....

Anitha

From: detective on Wed Jan 18 13:29:49 2006.

svasu_ani wrote:

i happened to see jus one scene today.... n the inspector was telling somu tht it was kumaraguru behind these n somu wasnt ready to accept/ believe tht...n the inspector says he went thru the past of mangai n the other people who the police has arrested n it points to the editor...

Wow!! I am releived that 3 questions have been answered in that one (spoiler??) statement.

1) Mangai and others were indeed arrested by the cops
2) A/C ran out of Aquafina and hence decided to investigate
3) Somu at least is made to think in that direction

From: gaya3 on Wed Jan 18 13:35:46 2006.

bpbp wrote:

gaya3 wrote:

Hi:

I downloaded part 78. But I could only hear audio in windows media player, no video is visible. What's wrong with it?? Does everyone face the samething??

It seems you dont have the required divx plugin to play AVIs. I would recommend the following open source software...

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

Hi BPBP: Thanks for your suggestion. I am not a computer/software savvy. Do you mean should I download ' VLC media player for Windows'?? Or do I need to change the settings in windows media player. I do have a 'creative' sound card on my computer. Do you think that this sound card creating any problem??

From: bpbp on Wed Jan 18 23:03:58 2006.

gaya3 wrote:

bpbp wrote:

gaya3 wrote:

Hi:

I downloaded part 78. But I could only hear audio in windows media player, no video is visible. What's wrong with it?? Does everyone face the samething??

It seems you dont have the required divx plugin to play AVIs. I would recommend the following open source software...

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

Hi BPBP: Thanks for your suggestion. I am not a computer/software savvy. Do you mean should I download ' VLC media player for Windows'?? Or do I need to change the settings in windows media player. I do have a 'creative' sound card on my computer. Do you think that this sound card creating any problem??

VLC Media player is a software just like Media player. But it is so broad and able to play any kind of video format. I am 100 % sure no problem with the sound card. Just install the software and u will be able to view the video.

Go to this link and select any of the links to download the software:

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-windows.html

From: bpbp on Wed Jan 18 23:28:16 2006. [Full View]

Jan 18th
-----------

This is the first time I am trying to write something like this. so pls bear with me.

Somu goes to Neithal Office and searches for the old reports on Palani accident. The security guy helps him to find the file folder which contains the report and negatives of the accident pictures. The folder contains few photos but all the photos are showing only the mashed body not the face. The security tells Somu that one of the negative is showing the face. Somu takes the negative to the computer room and scans the negative using a scanner and inverts the image using Adobe Photoshop (Naga must be having good knowledge on computers...great!). Some is now able to see the real picture of the accident guy "Palani". Security guy tells somu that he has seen him before. Somu inquires more and the security guy says the victim has once come to neithal office to meet GOD (Kumaraguru) and Thulasi and he says they had a big fight. In the flashback, Palani comes out of Kumaraguru office yelling "It's mine you have cheated me..."...Kumaraguru pulls him out of the room and Palani gets angry and leaves the place. (They are not showing Thulasi at this time.)

Somu asks the Security guy when and What time Palani came to the office. After taking some time to recollect, the guy says Palani came around 2:30 PM on some day which Somu finds out to be the day in which the accident happened. And the accident happened at 3 PM, just 1/2 hr after this incident. Somu takes the negative and about to leave the place. The security guy sees the notepad (madha travel book) Somu carries. He tells somu that this Travel car has come to neithal office before. Somu leaves the place.

On the way, the A/C catches Somu and asks him to surrender and A/C says they are not having any suspect on Somu, they have almost found the guy who is responsible for everything. He wants Somu to come with him just to save himself not falling as victim to the bad guys. Somu is not believing A/C but A/C finally says the bad guy is no one but Kumaraguru. Somu still does not believe A/C. A/C says they have already arrested Mangai & others and found Kumaraguru as the ONE behind everything. (He finds it from the investigation of past of those arrested people). Somu steals the car key of A/C and runs away from the place. He is now blocked by a guy in a car. He says God has sent this car for you and asked you to come to farm house. Somu gets into the car. He is very nervous. He opens the dash board to take a towel to wipe the sweat; there he sees one more notepad with "Madha Travels" printed on top. He asks the driver what's Madha Travels. The driver says the car they are traveling also belongs to madha travels and the travel belongs to savurimuthu (or savurirajan). He asks the driver to go to Savuri's house.

They both go to savuri's house where there is a board saying "Madha Travels". He takes somu inside and wakes up Savuri. Savuri comes out and says he is going to wash his face and come. He asks somu to wait in the hall. One more guy in half sleeve baniyan enters the house. He looks little scary. He is doing some talk with the driver through eyes. Now Savuri comes out of bathroom (He is having a towel over his neck). He sits near Somu and asks why he went to Neithal office. Somu asks Savuri if he can develop some negatives. Savuri sends the driver to nearby place where they do negative development after hours. Somu asks Savuri that whether the notepad (madha travels pad) belongs to him or not...

Thodarum....
From: bpbp on Wed Jan 18 23:34:05 2006. [Full View]

Are we going towards the end of show?

Some hints I got from today:

1) There must be some fight between God and Palani regarding patents of what they found as the cure for Aids. It all started with this.
2) Thulasi may be with God in all these plots
3) The scar guy may be "Savuri" . I dont know whether I am right or wrong. I could see the scar in his neck little bit when he sits near Somu....people who have recorded the episode pls confirm this!

From: ts on Thu Jan 19 6:26:27 2006.

bpbp wrote:

Are we going towards the end of show? Very Happy

Very Happy

Mad

Some hints Idea

Idea

I got from today:

1) There must be some fight between God Twisted Evil

Twisted Evil

and Palani regarding patents of what they found as the cure for Aids. It all started with this.
2) Thulasi may be with God in all these plots
3) The scar guy may be "Savuri" Idea

Idea

. I dont know whether I am right or wrong. I could see the scar in his neck little bit when he sits near Somu....people who have recorded the episode pls confirm this!

79 episodes ... yes we are going towards the end

Smile

May be "god" has taken Palani's nadi and thats what palani is fighting for. Doesnt make sense though as the josiyars do not give away the nadi but write down the translation in a notebook and thats what you get. Must be something else...

Savarimuthu might be the scarman .. might not be.... could be a red herring (having known Naga from previous serials).

Whats running in Somu's mind?
If you were somu, would you go to the farm by hitching a ride with a total stranger, who "happens" to be around when the AC is after you, having understood from the AC that the editor is behind all this?????

From: gmax2k5 on Thu Jan 19 8:58:22 2006. [Full View]

hi ts. i think somu is acting like an idiot, he should have just went with the AC, instead of going with the driver. I dont know, I feel they want us to think that editor is the bad guy, it could be him, or it could be someone else. but yeah, i have a feeling that one person who was sleeping was the guy with the thazhumbu, he had the towel over his shoulders to cover the thazhumbu, again it could be just a misleading tactic used by naga. hopefully, we can get more clues to this mystery. I have my doubts on padmarajan, dont know why, but i just feel he is behind all this.
From: aanaa on Thu Jan 19 9:31:17 2006. [Full View]

however its coming to an end.

but now Somu is in jeopardy
From: laddu on Thu Jan 19 10:54:02 2006. [Full View]

Hey all,

I always wondered why Somu can't ask Aarthi to just write everything she found out. She could even write the name of the 'thalumbu guy' because she had seen him. Why is she always rushing him to the computer? why did they choose Aarthi to experiment on? How did they find out she knew who's behind the crime?

Where is Akash these days? And that letter...can't somu call 'Chaya' or 'Akash' to find out?

Now that they mention 'Editor' is behind it, I'm clear he's not the one. Who else could it be??hmmmm...

I may be rushing things but I really love this mystery.

This is probably the only serial that I liked from start to now and I haven't missed one episode..won't say I remember all without all you great updaters.

Naga keep up the good work! Hope after you finish this one, you can come up with something quick so we won't be bored with another 3 year long mega boring suspense from someone else.

Chao till next time --
From: detective on Thu Jan 19 10:58:52 2006. [Full View]

gmax2k5 wrote:

hi ts. i think somu is acting like an idiot, he should have just went with the AC, instead of going with the driver.

Yeah, right. Like he was acting very sensible all these days!!! He has been characterized as an idiot. Well, there is no rule that the leading character cannot be an idiot.

From: vekala on Thu Jan 19 11:05:58 2006.

bpbp wrote:

Are we going towards the end of show? Very Happy

Very Happy

Mad

Some hints Idea

Idea

I got from today:

1) There must be some fight between God Twisted Evil

Twisted Evil

and Palani regarding patents of what they found as the cure for Aids. It all started with this.
2) Thulasi may be with God in all these plots
3) The scar guy may be "Savuri" Idea

Idea

. I dont know whether I am right or wrong. I could see the scar in his neck little bit when he sits near Somu....people who have recorded the episode pls confirm this!

79 episodes ... yes we are going towards the end Smile

Smile

May be "god" has taken Palani's nadi and thats what palani is fighting for. Doesnt make sense though as the josiyars do not give away the nadi but write down the translation in a notebook and thats what you get. Must be something else...

Savarimuthu might be the scarman .. might not be.... could be a red herring (having known Naga from previous serials).

I am sure it's not Palani's Naadi that he is fighting for.... i guess...it could be some article or Patent rights or something written by Palani...which the editor had cheated by keeping that to himself....
For when Palani comes out of the room...he not only yells that the editor has cheated him...but he also says that " if not this press i can publish it in any other press" and asks the editor to give that back to him and also tries to enter the room to take that!!!...

From: detective on Thu Jan 19 11:12:01 2006.

seetha Suresh wrote:

2) Who is the scarman? The scarman could be Kumaraguru�s friend whose name is
Savirimuthu. He is the one who helps Kumaraguru to find Thulasi when she drove by herself the car to the AIDS hospital. Kumaraguru explain to Somu that Savirimuthu knows all the roads around here and he runs a TRAVEL. He also wear white shirt all the time and has curly hair and have the same body structure of the the scarman. The scarman ask Dr. Mohan to call him as DRIVER�.one more point is when Somu went to Ambarasu�s house with Padma where his daughter gave a letter pad which written as MADHA TRAVELS�..is also have connection to Savirimuthu.

Looks like you have a winner here!!

From: detective on Thu Jan 19 12:34:41 2006. [Full View]

laddu wrote:

How did they find out she knew who's behind the crime?

Scarman remembers he missed his phonebook at Anbarasu's place. He goes back there, only to learn that Aarthi had taken it. So they suspect she might have known too much and decide to incapacitate her. Keep in mind, though. Somu also knows a lot of stuff, but they still don't harm him, even when they captured him. The main guys are very close to Somu (his naadi says so, too) and hence will never harm him.

laddu wrote:

Now that they mention 'Editor' is behind it, I'm clear he's not the one. Who else could it be??hmmmm...

The only other possibility is someone is trying to frame the editor in these murders. He could be a rival editor, or someone like that. He comes to know that editor had a fight with Palani over the suvadi, learns about the 12 people, and hatches an elaborate plan. He uses people who are known to the editor, pays them enough and makes them testify against the editor...

From: bpbp on Thu Jan 19 14:22:10 2006.

bpbp wrote:

Whats running in Somu's mind?
If you were somu, would you go to the farm by hitching a ride with a total stranger, who "happens" to be around when the AC is after you, having understood from the AC that the editor is behind all this?????

If I were Somu, I would have gone with the AC...BTW, is AC a real policeman? I have never seen him in a proper police station before. I always see him with a laptop & aquafina inside a dark godown Shocked

Shocked

Anyway, Somu supposed to be the hero Poke

Poke

of this serial so I dont think a hero will give up...That's why he did not go with AC

But man, this is the only serial I dont want to miss...

From: Naaga on Thu Jan 19 14:27:47 2006.

May be "god" has taken Palani's nadi and thats what palani is fighting for. Doesnt make sense though as the josiyars do not give away the nadi but write down the translation in a notebook and thats what you get. Must be something else...

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vekala wrote:

For when Palani comes out of the room...he not only yells that the editor has cheated him...but he also says that " if not this press i can publish it in any other press" and asks the editor to give that back to him and also tries to enter the room to take that!!!...

Question

Question

Is that the correct translation.......? Then what is the editor's answer for that line?

detective wrote:

Well, there is no rule that the leading character cannot be an idiot.

Clap

Clap

Thumbs Up!

From: gaya3 on Thu Jan 19 15:59:41 2006.

bpbp wrote:

gaya3 wrote:

bpbp wrote:

gaya3 wrote:

Hi:

I downloaded part 78. But I could only hear audio in windows media player, no video is visible. What's wrong with it?? Does everyone face the samething??

It seems you dont have the required divx plugin to play AVIs. I would recommend the following open source software...

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

Hi BPBP: Thanks for your suggestion. I am not a computer/software savvy. Do you mean should I download ' VLC media player for Windows'?? Or do I need to change the settings in windows media player. I do have a 'creative' sound card on my computer. Do you think that this sound card creating any problem??

VLC Media player is a software just like Media player. But it is so broad and able to play any kind of video format. I am 100 % sure no problem with the sound card. Just install the software and u will be able to view the video.

Go to this link and select any of the links to download the software:

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-windows.html

Thank you BPBP. My friend downloaded divx plugins and now I could see the video too. Thanks again.

From: detective on Thu Jan 19 16:32:14 2006.

Naaga wrote:

May be "god" has taken Palani's nadi and thats what palani is fighting for. Doesnt make sense though as the josiyars do not give away the nadi but write down the translation in a notebook and thats what you get. Must be something else...

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Who is this Kadhir character?? Why should we think about him?

Naaga wrote:

vekala wrote:

For when Palani comes out of the room...he not only yells that the editor has cheated him...but he also says that " if not this press i can publish it in any other press" and asks the editor to give that back to him and also tries to enter the room to take that!!!...

Question

Question

Is that the correct translation.......? Then what is the editor's answer for that line?

Well, I thought about that too. But I decided to go home, replay the recording and double check. But from the top of my head, Palani says somthing like, "...that is mine...you stole it from me...i am gonna go another magazine and publish how you stole my stuff....". To which the editor says, "Go write about me anywhere. i dont care".

So I don't think Palani was trying to get anything published in neidhal. He must have come there because thulasi wanted to meet him to discuss patent rights.

From: gmax2k5 on Thu Jan 19 19:55:30 2006. [Full View]

but didn't the lady dr tell the scarman to go hide somewhere, and not come out for a few days. so i doubt the scarman is kumaraguru's assistant, or that guy. from behind when you look at the scarman, he doesn't look like kumaraguru's assistant. so i think they have nothing to do with the scarman. wat do u say naga?

From: bpbp on Thu Jan 19 20:34:36 2006.

detective wrote:

Naaga wrote:

May be "god" has taken Palani's nadi and thats what palani is fighting for. Doesnt make sense though as the josiyars do not give away the nadi but write down the translation in a notebook and thats what you get. Must be something else...

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Who is this Kadhir character?? Why should we think about him?

Naaga wrote:

vekala wrote:

For when Palani comes out of the room...he not only yells that the editor has cheated him...but he also says that " if not this press i can publish it in any other press" and asks the editor to give that back to him and also tries to enter the room to take that!!!...

Question

Question

Is that the correct translation.......? Then what is the editor's answer for that line?

Well, I thought about that too. But I decided to go home, replay the recording and double check. But from the top of my head, Palani says somthing like, "...that is mine...you stole it from me...i am gonna go another magazine and publish how you stole my stuff....". To which the editor says, "Go write about me anywhere. i dont care".

So I don't think Palani was trying to get anything published in neidhal. He must have come there because thulasi wanted to meet him to discuss patent rights.

You are right! Palani was saying "I am going to publish in another Magazine how Kumaraguru cheated ". That's how I interpreted...

From: ssanjinika on Fri Jan 20 9:10:11 2006. [Full View]

I dont think its the nadi(or the notebook) Palani was fighting for.that wouldnt make any sense coz Palani having realised that his nadi along with other nadis contain references to the cure for aids wouldnt(shouldnt) have given it to anyone.He would def look out for his interests(atleast thats what Id do).The fight could have something todo with Thulasi.
Can anyone confirm the fact that it was the Editor who asked somu to do an article on nado josiyam?I seem to vaguely recall something like that.
All things point to GOD..but I cant seem to accept that .Mainly because its Naga's serial and I keep expecting a twist which makes perfect sense and explains all .

From: detective on Fri Jan 20 14:03:18 2006.

May be "god" has taken Palani's nadi and thats what palani is fighting for. Doesnt make sense though as the josiyars do not give away the nadi but write down the translation in a notebook and thats what you get. Must be something else..

If josiyars never give away the actual suvadi, how did the bad guys have that many suvadis? If you give enough money and/or threat, I am sure you can get the naadi. At least that is what the serial says. Also Palani says he struggled to get "that". So it could be he tried real hard to get the suvadi because it is normally not given.

From: encrypter on Fri Jan 20 19:03:56 2006. [Full View]

i am glad the serial is nearing the end.

now tht we knw tht is a very small chance that GOD is behind this.... i've been watching this serial but i am sure tht we are missing something. . but wht......."thillai enbathu "LI'yin ethirmarai?" wht does this have to do with everything? my head is going to burst if it doesn't end soon.

hats offf to Naga for giving beggars importance in this serial with a mix of sense of humour. also i am currently trying to do a research on the real "sithambara ragasiyam", so if you can provide me with any think tht u know of, it;ll be great!
From: bpbp on Fri Jan 20 19:36:21 2006. [Full View]

Now-a-days computers/internet play a major role in all mega serials. Thanks to Naga for the scene in which Somu inverts the negative using Adobe Photoshop. That's commendable...but I could see some serial directors are really making scenes which are totally insane...Some for you to laugh:

One scene in Anandham:

Two cyber-crime guys come for investigation. They say, they are going to check the PC as part of the investigation. So one guy sits in front of the pc and takes a blank CD and puts in the CD-Rom drive, then he opens internet explorer. It shows "Page cannot be displated" error message. Then he puts a floppy drive into the floppy drive and looks into the monitor for sometime then he takes the CD and Floppy back and puts them into the carry case he brings. That's it, investigation over!

One scene in Selvi:

A guy from london is doing a master plan to defraud the bad guy gang in Chennai through internet. He acts like a businessman offering a cell phone company partnership to be franchised in India. The bad guy gang on seeing this offer somehow is about to fall into the trap. One guy asks the other lady (Maya) to get more details about this over internet. Then the lady is doing something, now you see the monitor,,mmm guess what is she doing? browsing in windows explorer.

One more scene from Selvi:

Over exaggerated web cam chat. They did some graphics and made the monitor of the PC to look like a TV, direclty broadcasting the chat persons to each other. They just talk with each other directly through the monitor (just like sci-fi movies), no camera, no headphones, no nothing....

From: detective on Fri Jan 20 20:39:11 2006.

bpbp wrote:

...inverts the negative using Adobe Photoshop. That's commendable...but I could see some serial directors are really making scenes which are totally insane...Some for you to laugh:

yeah, that was cool. i have the same HP Precision scanner, but never thought to do this to my negatives

Sad

Internet has always been used stupidly in Kodambakkam. Recollect 'kaadhalar dhinam'???

From: Naaga on Sat Jan 21 9:23:05 2006.

detective wrote:

bpbp wrote:

...inverts the negative using Adobe Photoshop. That's commendable...but I could see some serial directors are really making scenes which are totally insane...Some for you to laugh:

yeah, that was cool. i have the same HP Precision scanner, but never thought to do this to my negatives Sad

Sad

Internet has always been used stupidly in Kodambakkam. Recollect 'kaadhalar dhinam'???

Hey guys, hang-on.........u cant do a negative scan on a flat bed scanner......unless u have an adapter.....

I've taken some liberties there.......

Embarassed

From: svasu_ani on Sat Jan 21 14:19:57 2006. [Full View]

bpbp wrote:

One scene in Anandham:

then he opens internet explorer. It shows "Page cannot be displated" error message.

This is too much ...even i saw this n couldnt control my laugh..tht guy was higlighting the error messages.....as if he is reading something important....
From: ssanjinika on Sat Jan 21 19:58:57 2006. [Full View]

But atleast we didnt realise the liberties you have taken Naga..thats something commendable...
Sometimes the scenes are soo absurd like in one Vijaykanth movie he repaints a dark glass car window using MS paint and hes able to see what happened inside the car .Now thats DUMB!!!
From: detective on Sat Jan 21 20:15:44 2006. [Full View]

bpbp wrote:

I could see the scar in his neck little bit when he sits near Somu....people who have recorded the episode pls confirm this!

No. I still-advanced my tape, but cannot say anything for certain. But I am sure this Savuri character will roam around with a towel around his neck in the fothcoming episodes. That way, Naga can keep the hubbers guessing
From: rsathish on Sun Jan 22 6:31:36 2006. [Full View]

hello people,

this is my first post.

i think the real culpirt is the businessman. remember Somu-father's friend - the businessman.

the real motive behind all the murders is of course "Money" - from patent rights for the AIDS medicine.

Thulasi seeks help from Palani to discover it. Which fails. They kill Palani and start to unravel the process ( getting nadi from 12 people) by themselves.

The businessman funds all these, through the Editor.

I feel all others are red-herring.

May i know your views?
From: joshindas on Sun Jan 22 12:42:14 2006. [Full View]

Hi CR Fans,

We Malayalis too watch Rahasyam with greatest interest. This serial is the best I have ever seen in Malayalam and Tamil channels.

Characterisation is superb. We should apreciate all actors. Especially YG Mahendra. Naga deserves the credit.

We would like to see his talent in big screen.

Let all of us together request NAGA to make a Movie ,once he finish this serial.

Joshin Das

From: aanaa on Sun Jan 22 12:44:18 2006.

bpbp wrote:

One scene in Anandham:

Two cyber-crime guys come for investigation. They say, they are going to check the PC as part of the investigation. So one guy sits in front of the pc and takes a blank CD and puts in the CD-Rom drive, then he opens internet explorer. It shows "Page cannot be displated" error message. :

Smile

)))
thats shows - -clients- we are idiots

bpbp wrote:

One more scene from Selvi:

:

Naga takes interst on minute tech details.

From: detective on Sun Jan 22 21:52:56 2006. [Full View]

rsathish wrote:

i think the real culpirt is the businessman. remember Somu-father's friend - the businessman

Wasn't he the reddiyaar, who also got killed?
From: Aditya51 on Sun Jan 22 23:52:02 2006. [Full View]

Has anyone read the "Ten little Niggers" by Agatha Christie, where ten murders take place on an island, and yet there is no 11th person on the island. The guy who dies 5th is actually not dead, and commits all the murders, finally killing himself and making it look like he actually died 5th in the order.

What is the possibility that one of the 12 is actually undead, or not dead. Anyway, its a long shot and I myself dont believe it. Just thought of it as someone said it could be Reddiyar.

I personally believe that it is Thulasi and Mukilan, the gardener. Remember the look she gives the dumb siddhar when she is seated on Akash's thinnai. That one look is enough to show she is the mastermind behind all these murders. Mukilan may be the Periyavar as he is the one with the actual chuvadis from where Thulasi's research starts (so she says in one of the episodes).

Kumaraguru knows that something is going on, as he tries to shield Mukilan from police questioning, and is also growing exotic herbs in his ranch. Moreover, he is the one who asks Somu to start the naadi investigation, he is the one who asks Somu to go to the mortuary and obtain Tamil Vadhiyar's finger print, which is then taken to Josiyar Ponnambalam for analysis.

If we go with the two group theory, his group is the one which is obtaining the prints for getting the nadi, whilst Thulasi's group is the one which is bumping off people.

Mukilan is introduced into the serial as one working for Kumaraguru for ages. However, at some stage (I dont remember now) Kumaraguru himself says Mukilan has been around for 4 or 5 years. Could this just be an anomaly?

Vishnu is the wild card in the entire puzzle, who could bend either way.

All said and done, it is definitely Thulasi, with Mukilan as the prime choice for being the periyavar, the second choice being Somu's father.
From: seetha Suresh on Mon Jan 23 14:59:19 2006. [Full View]

Well, I don�t think Editor is the God. Maybe he also like the rest helping the KADAVUL. Detective, please recall�. in one of the epsiod Dr. Mangai talks to the �Periyayar� on the mobile and asks him to hold the phone so that he could hear Dr. Thillai explaining about the 12 peoples name. Who is that guy? When she dials she press �Periyayar� on her mobile. He must be the KADAVUL�.from the body structure and voice he doesn�t look like the Editor. WHO IS HE???? He looks like Arthi�s boss
Mangai goes to her car and asks the periyavar about the chat. He tells her that the 12th nadi can be found not without any problems. That is Somu�s nadi�..

Remember Somu�s nadi says that people around him will put him in trouble.
I have my doubts on padmarajan too. I think he is also helping the KADAVUL. Before Arthi got kidnapped, she was trying to contact Somu. She left message to Padma that it is not Manodaran and that she has a big lead. She again spoke to him asking for directions to the farmhouse. He gives her the details. She tells him that she will go there in a cab. My big question is how the Kidnaper knows that she is waiting for a cap and they also come there as a cap driver? It could be Padma who informs them and also about the earlier message.

Same goes to Akash�s photo, he is one who took the photo. He also told the AC a different name about the guy in the photo lab.

The guy with a big bangle in his hand took Akash photo look like the same guy who went to Anbarasu house and ask for the money, which he borrowed from his brother (Arthi�s boss).

When Palani came to see Editor, he was holding a cloth bag�there is something like suvadi inside. But when he was chased out from the office he was not having the bag. That�s what he wanted to take back but the Editor never let him in. What it could be

From: detective on Mon Jan 23 15:31:50 2006.

seetha Suresh wrote:

Dr. Mangai talks to the �Periyayar� on the mobile �.from the body structure and voice he doesn�t look like the Editor. WHO IS HE???? He looks like Arthi�s boss

Arthi's boss? Manoharan? He is one of the people killed!!!

seetha Suresh wrote:

Before Arthi got kidnapped, she was trying to contact Somu. She left message to Padma that it is not Manodaran and that she has a big lead..... My big question is how the Kidnaper knows that she is waiting for a cap and they also come there as a cap driver? It could be Padma who informs them and also about the earlier message.

Same goes to Akash�s photo, he is one who took the photo. He also told the AC a different name about the guy in the photo lab.

I agree with you here. Looks like Padma sure is involved.

It is possible that 'kadavuL' is managing 'God'

Wink

I mean, Editor. Now, all fingers point to the editor. But once questioned, he too may say he cannot betray 'kadavuL'. Each person is doing their bit to get the AIDS vaccine/cure. Editor cheats Palani off his suvadi. Each person has a reason to conspire with kadavuL. Editor wants the 'apple of his eye', cured.

From: pamrang on Tue Jan 24 0:33:54 2006. [Full View]

Hi People,
I have been reading all the posts for the last two days - excellant work by TS and all the others who have posted synopsis here. Thanks a lot!
I had watched Marma desam and Vidathu karuppu when I was in Madras and felt really, really bad about not being able watch Chidambara Rahasiyam. Your efforts here have kind of satisfied my yearning.
Anyway, these are a few points that I wanted to mention,
1. Could Kumaaraguru be the person who is the key to the whole mystery - the person that Somu is asked to get in touch with by the tea saamiyar or the Rs.10 guy (am not sure which) as the "aapanukke updesam seithavan". To my knowledge, kumaaraguru sounds like the name of thagappansaamy at swamimalai.
2. Somu's Olai suvadi says that in his earlier birth, he was supposed to marry a girl but did not and that girl became lethally ill or something like that, right? Akash's father was supposed to marry the Dikshitar's sis (who is now suffering frm leukemia) - and Somu is now going to marry Arthi with "immune deficiency". Any connections, there?
3. Why has nobody suspected the josiyar Mani as being kadavul? Since, in the nadi, it is said "padikkum manikandan seitha karumathaal or something to that effect; maybe the continuation that was torn would have read to mean that these murders or incidents/events happen due to the deeds of manikandan!
I may have gotten things completely confused - have been trying to cramp my brain with the whole story in 2 days - so, please correct me if I am wrong.
Thanks,
From: ganeshhg9 on Tue Jan 24 8:26:48 2006. [Full View]

kool
From: noddykanna on Tue Jan 24 16:06:40 2006. [Full View]

Can anyone upload episode 79 please??
From: rsathish on Wed Jan 25 13:00:54 2006. [Full View]

detective wrote:

rsathish wrote:

i think the real culpirt is the businessman. remember Somu-father's friend - the businessman

Wasn't he the reddiyaar, who also got killed?

No i meant the "Big Businessman" - a friend of Somu's Father not the reddiyaar.

The introduction of this "BIG Businessman" was brief (refer page 1) and given Naga's direction - I would pay attention to this character 'coz it has all the elements of being "kadavuL".

Quote from Page 1 of this Discussion:
"At somu's house, his father, an advocate is with his friend, a big businessman. While they are chatting, the business man hear somu's mother sing. Somu's dad tells him that she is a musician and does ad jingles. Just then, a christian priest enters the house and somu's mother welcomes him and takes him in. Somu's dad tells his friend that he follows Saibaba and his wife, eventhough hindu, has faith in Christianity and that each respect other's privacy and beliefs. Somu comes home and his dad introduces his friend. His friend then leaves the house and just then the phone rings. Somu picks the phone and a voice tells him to stay away of the murders and mind his business.
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Somu sees his dad's friend in his editor's room. He is sponsoring the magazine for some event and the editor wants somu to interview him and write a nice article about him.
Thulasi interrupts and speaks something unrelated and the editor scold her. She sneaks out of the room and goes to the street and lies down in the middle of the road. Everyone is embarassed. "

What do you think TS/Detective?

From: ts on Wed Jan 25 13:30:24 2006.

rsathish wrote:

detective wrote:

rsathish wrote:

i think the real culpirt is the businessman. remember Somu-father's friend - the businessman

Wasn't he the reddiyaar, who also got killed?

No i meant the "Big Businessman" - a friend of Somu's Father not the reddiyaar.

The introduction of this "BIG Businessman" was brief (refer page 1) and given Naga's direction - I would pay attention to this character 'coz it has all the elements of being "kadavuL".

Quote from Page 1 of this Discussion:
"At somu's house, his father, an advocate is with his friend, a big businessman. While they are chatting, the business man hear somu's mother sing. Somu's dad tells him that she is a musician and does ad jingles. Just then, a christian priest enters the house and somu's mother welcomes him and takes him in. Somu's dad tells his friend that he follows Saibaba and his wife, eventhough hindu, has faith in Christianity and that each respect other's privacy and beliefs. Somu comes home and his dad introduces his friend. His friend then leaves the house and just then the phone rings. Somu picks the phone and a voice tells him to stay away of the murders and mind his business.
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Somu sees his dad's friend in his editor's room. He is sponsoring the magazine for some event and the editor wants somu to interview him and write a nice article about him.
Thulasi interrupts and speaks something unrelated and the editor scold her. She sneaks out of the room and goes to the street and lies down in the middle of the road. Everyone is embarassed. "

What do you think TS/Detective?

This "big Businessman" is the Reddiar.

From: ts on Wed Jan 25 13:38:01 2006. [Full View]

I thought Chaya has something to do with this. She is the one who asks Padma to take his camera to Somu's house to take a picture of Akash. She visited Akash at chidambaram and thats how the group has his details. May be she fancies Somu and thats the reason she left a note for him with Akash. She could have given it to Padma... Why Akash? Could be that she didnt want it to go to the editor?

From: detective on Wed Jan 25 15:01:16 2006.

rsathish wrote:

detective wrote:

rsathish wrote:

i think the real culpirt is the businessman. remember Somu-father's friend - the businessman

Wasn't he the reddiyaar, who also got killed?

No i meant the "Big Businessman" - a friend of Somu's Father not the reddiyaar.

What do you think TS.....

This "big Businessman" is the Reddiar.

That's what I thought, too. So he is out of the equation.

Even otherwise, if the main guy is not someone who is around quite prominently, the suspence will not have an effect, in spite of the grand background music Rehan has in store for that scene.

Now that I am on that topic - we have to appreciate the background music, or the lack of it, in many scenes. This is in stark contrast to other serials. In yesterday's Selvi, there is this cute girl spying on Radhika and her husband, and you hear 100 people vomitting together in the background. You hear this "music" for 15 seconds...... Intolerable.

From: rein on Wed Jan 25 23:06:25 2006. [Full View]

I think you might be on to something with the whole Big business man.

God you guys are freaking amazing when it comes to the details.
From: sunmaster on Wed Jan 25 23:37:36 2006. [Full View]

Hello Guys,

I am new here too.
but is following the link for like 1 month and reading Naga's post and all that.
It shows the character of Naga as he patiently explains our misunderstandings and his liberties.
I think the 'ten little' stuff wont work here as it is clearly mentioned in the Naadi that they will die.
so 'GOD' has to be a living person and that too a male. remember the person in phone when mangai was talking to YGM.
His built makes me think its vishnu.
From: pamrang on Wed Jan 25 23:52:58 2006. [Full View]

"Thillai enbathu LI yin ethirmarai"

I don't know exactly what this means but, here are some clues:

Thillai is another name for Tiger's milk tree or blinding tree (excoecaria agallocha). A compound isolated from the leaves and stem of this tree has been shown to have anti-HIV properties in that, it inhibits re-activation of the virus and thus disease progression. Maybe this is the "ragasiyam" that everybody is in search of. But, as to what LI is, I have no idea.

BTW, while reading out the "tillai enbathu...", do they (Akash/Patti) pronounce LI as "Lai" or "lee"?
From: ts on Thu Jan 26 6:28:24 2006. [Full View]

Savari looks at the invoice book and tells Somu that it is one of their's. Somu asks if he can have the trip details for the vehicle. Savari meanwhile asks his wife to get some Coffee for Somu. He asks one of his men to
get the details from the log book. The man hesitates and tells them that it would be difficult to find it without a date. Somu thinks about it and realises what Anbarasu told him. It was a few days after they took Somu's prints as Anbarasu told him that the scarman had come for little Somu's and Somu's nadi. SOmu tells them that it was after Sep 21st. Savari's wife brings coffee in the meantime and just then the person who went to get the prints comes with the photos. Savari cuts him off and sends him out. All of them including Savari's wife seem dodgy. Savari's asst. brings the ledger and tells him that the last log for that car was on Sep 22nd and that they sold it to a cinema company (for a stunt scene where the car was destroyed). Somu goes thru the log and sees that the log for 22nd says Neithal (Padmarajan). He asks about it and the man tells him that they had a call from the farm that day and it was from Padma. Somu gets up and goes out in a hurry. Savari asks him to settle but Somu tells him that he has to go to the farm and rushes outside.

Somu goes to a secluded place and calls PAdma. Padma answers the phone and Somu asks him to come to Tamil Vadhiyar's house. Padma tells him that it is 2:30 in the morning. Somu asks him to come immediately for he needs Padma's help to nab someone. Padma comes to Vadhiyar's home and loooks out for Somu. Somu opens the window from inside and asks Padma to come in thru the back. PAdma goes inside and asks Somu why he had to break the lock. He looks around and sees the markings where the vadhiyar was found dead. He asks Somu about who he wanted to nab. Somu slaps him and pushes him down. Padma is shocked. Somu shows him the photos from the lab and asks him to explain why he had printed the fotos without the face. He tells padma that he thought padma was a friend but everyone around him are conspiring against him. He asks who he was trying to save. Padma tells him that he is still a friend and that he is trying to sae Somu. Somu asks him to tell him who is behind.. and padma says "Kadavulai katti kudukka mudiyaadhu". Somu thinks about it for a minute and (Finally, the important wiring inside Somu's brain gets connected) screams..."god"! (he is worse than a sodium vapour lamp)

Prabu, the lab owner is sitting nervoulsy at the AC's office. AC steps in and Prabu asks him why he had called him at this late hour. AC tells him that he had a few questions about Akash's photo and shows the photo to him. He asks if the photo was developed at Prabu's lab. Prabu nods his head. AC tells him that two copies of the photo were developed. One was requested by Padma and AC asks who he did the second one for. Ac tells him that Padma had already misguided them on this and that they knew for sure that Prabu is involved. Prabu says that if the AC can tell him where he got the photo then he would be able to tell who he gave it to. AC tells him that he got it from the place where Arthi was kept hostage. Prabu is in no agreement with the statement and tells that his kadavul wont do that. AC says that the group is connected with 11 murders. Prabu disagrees and says that his kadavul cant hurt anyone. AC tells him that he will be arrested if he refuses to cooperate. Just then Natarajan comes in and tells the AC that Prabu is his client. He asks prabu not to answer to the AC's questions. Prabu tells Natarajan that it was Kadavul who gave him a life, after rescuing him from the juvenile prison and now he comes for help. AC asks Natarajan who is his client. Natarajan tells him that Prabu was his client. AC asks who Kadavul was and Natarajan tells him that it doesnt matter. AC tell sNatarajan that he would have to arrest Natarajan for helping a murderer. Just then the phone rings and AC attends to it. The call is from his deputy who informs that Padma was in their custody and that Somu is going to the farm. Natarajan is upset after hearing this.

Somu rushes to the farm. He is in such hurry that he trips down at the editor's feet. Editor tells him that he was expecting Somu. Somu aks him if he was Kadavul. Kumaraguru says Yes hesitantly and adds that he has nothing to do with anything. Somu is not in a mood to listen. He asks the editor if what Mangai, Kanthan, Padma and others say was true. He asks the editor why he did that. Editor tries to pacify him but Somu wouldnt budge. Editor tells him that he is kadavul indeed but he didnt do anything... Somu gets hold of his shirt and shakes him violently and asks him why he did this to him and Arthi... and to stop everything... Thulasi seems very agitated and she is fuming with anger. Vishnu tries to settle her. The AC arrives at the farm and he tells Kumaraguru that he is arresting him....thodarum
From: ts on Thu Jan 26 7:11:06 2006. [Full View]

Thillai enbadhu �ellai�yin ethirmarai is what the granny said.

- Meaning Thillai is the opposite of limits � Thillai does not have any limits � he is the "akaNDam" himself

>>pamrang<<

Your observation is interesting. Thillai Sthalam (Chidambaram) got its name from the Mangrove forests or the
Thillai Forest. Does the name Tiger�s Milk tree have any relation to Vyagrapada ?

vyAgra-pADa in Sanskrit means Tiger Foot. This sage, out of sheer devotion, asked for the eyes and legs of the tiger, so that he could go very early in the dawn, even before the bees wake up, to pluck the flowers very fresh - not even touched by the bees to offer to God !
From: laddu on Thu Jan 26 9:35:58 2006. [Full View]

In yesterday's episode, God keeps saying "I'm behind this, but I'm not the one who did it!" and tries to explain but Somu won't listen and Thulasi is really looking weird now...could it be her?

We need to know the following:
Who's the talumbu guy?
What does Chaya's letter say?
Where is Akash?
What is Arthi's father going to find out in Chidambaram?
If god is really not 'Kadavul' then who is?
Why does Somu's Dad help release the suspected?
Why can't AC choke suspects neck to find out who's god or kaduvul and the motive?
Why won't Arthi write more details on her findings? She definitely knows the talumbu guy?

...ippadi pala kelvigal..

Chao
From: ts on Thu Jan 26 10:08:16 2006. [Full View]

I am coming back to the "two groups" theory again. "If it was not kadavul?" is the question that everyone is asking right now. Apart from God, only one person qualifies to be the one to whom thulasi is an apple to the eye... vishnu. May be all this is drafted and executed by Vishnu and Thulasi and "god" is torn between being a good citizen (journalist) and being a parent.

Real questions that come to mind are

1. Why cant the scarman get the thumb impressions himself? Why does he need a broker every time?
2. Is this group killing people as well? I doubt it...(exception might be little somu)
3. If God is behind all this, Kanthan's statement contradicts. He says that he didnt know god was
behind all this but he did leak out the messages to someone!!!
4. Is there a Super Kadavul who helped "god" as well and "god" is being faithful now?
5. Remember outside Akash's house a man sending a text message "Nadi Kanavillai" to "Periyavar".
Is Periyavar "Kadavul" or a different person?
6. The leads that somu follow to get to god - Are they telling the truth? Are they in any way
connected to the "group" and trying to mislead Somu?
7. How is that the "group" is able to find the correct 11? They have to be pretty accurate in
who they choose as there are no reports of any other killings.
8. How many of the 11 nadis are from Anbarasu's "factory"?

Hope that we will get some answers soon.
From: aanaa on Thu Jan 26 10:18:56 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Savari ....thodarum

thank you TS
From: aanaa on Thu Jan 26 10:22:41 2006. [Full View]

NAGA

I have seen 80 different paper figures in each epiode.
amazing figures made by paper

DO you have sketches?
Is it possible publish here those sketches

Thankyou in advance

From: detective on Thu Jan 26 11:16:14 2006.

pamrang wrote:

"Thillai enbathu LI yin ethirmarai"

I don't know exactly what this means but, here are some clues:

Thillai is another name for Tiger's milk tree or blinding tree (excoecaria agallocha). A compound isolated from the leaves and stem of this tree has been shown to have anti-HIV properties in that, it inhibits re-activation of the virus and thus disease progression. Maybe this is the "ragasiyam" that everybody is in search of. But, as to what LI is, I have no idea.

BTW, while reading out the "tillai enbathu...", do they (Akash/Patti) pronounce LI as "Lai" or "lee"?

Very interesting!!

Granny thinks LI is transliteration of 'ellai' (limit). She says thillai means sky and that has no ellai or confines. However, Akash says the beggar could have written everything in tamil characters. Why should he write L and I in English? Granny doesn't have a convincing answer.

As far as I remember, only the L and I where in English. But the same sentence, when shown in the titles, has more English characters.

Ultimately, I think this is one of the things that will be left unanswered in the serial.

From: detective on Thu Jan 26 11:53:24 2006.

I am coming back to the "two groups" theory again. "If it was not kadavul?" is the question that everyone is asking right now. Apart from God, only one person qualifies to be the one to whom thulasi is an apple to the eye... vishnu. May be all this is drafted and executed by Vishnu and Thulasi and "god" is torn between being a good citizen (journalist) and being a parent.

Editor=kadavuL. I will not suspect that further.

Editor agrees to have asked Padma to print without the head, he agrees that he knows Dr.Mangai, Anbarasu and Kandhan. But he says he did do anything. Maybe Thulasi did all the killings and the editor has just been using his 'devotees' to save her from the law?? They all do it to save the daughter of the man who gave them this life.

If Vishnu was involved and editor knew about it, then there is no need for the scenes where Vishnu suspects the editor and the editor defends himself.

The apple-of-the-eye posting was by kadavuL, and that is what any dad would say if her learns that his daughter has AIDS - that he would do anything to get her cured.

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From: fanatic on Thu Jan 26 19:05:31 2006. [Full View]

Guys, read my post from 2 weeks back. The character I was talking about in that was introduced last week and hes in this weeks episode too.

The 'thazumbu' guy is Savarimuthu....the travels company owner.

He was the guy I was talking about in my previous post 2 weeks back. Hes the one who goes in search of Thulasi when she was missing. Again its my guess but I have a strong feeling its the same guy.

Secondly, I also feel Dr.Thillairajan is involved in this a big way. We havent discussed him lately...but am sure he has an important role to play in this. Can anyone discuss and join the dots here....
From: fanatic on Thu Jan 26 19:21:22 2006. [Full View]

I'm coming to the above conclusion also coz Savarimuthu deliberately covers his neck with towel all the time.
From: pamrang on Thu Jan 26 19:40:45 2006. [Full View]

TS,
I don't know of any relation between the tillai tree and Vyagrapada (but, there might be a connection there, though)

Have been thinking about it for sometime now and the only LI that makes sense is exactly what Akash wrote - Leukemia and Immunodeficiency ( the tillai extract, seemingly has anti-tumor properties too). So, tillai should be antagonistic (ethirmarai) to L & I.

Also, the sap from this tree is capable of causing blindness (hence, it is also called the blinding tree). Maybe, Thillairajan (YGM) would be the one to discover this ragasiyam and while trying to get the sap (for curing Abirami's aunt and for his daughter, of course) blind himself?!! That then, would be why he would not be able to "see" his daughter (as per the prediction).

Detective,
The other english alphabets shown during the title - do they seem to make up Leukemia and Immunodeficiency?
From: pamrang on Thu Jan 26 19:49:19 2006. [Full View]

Also, is there any chance that the tree (with 16 leaves?) the beggar drew on Akash's thinnai is actually this tillai?

From: Naaga on Thu Jan 26 22:34:53 2006.

pamrang wrote:

TS,
I don't know of any relation between the tillai tree and Vyagrapada (but, there might be a connection there, though)

Have been thinking about it for sometime now and the only LI that makes sense is exactly what Akash wrote - Leukemia and Immunodeficiency ( the tillai extract, seemingly has anti-tumor properties too). So, tillai should be antagonistic (ethirmarai) to L & I.

That is really close and 50% of the Ragasiyam.........Pamrang!

Aanaa, for origami diagrams, try here...
http://dev.origami.com/diagram.cfm

detective wrote:

As far as I remember, only the L and I where in English. But the same sentence, when shown in the titles, has more English characters.

Detective, the difference in the letters used, is due to the number of title cards available........

detective wrote:

Ultimately, I think this is one of the things that will be left unanswered in the serial.

Exclamation

Is the "title sequence"........ part of the story's narration or not? Exclamation

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From: aanaa on Thu Jan 26 22:50:46 2006. [Full View]

fanatic wrote:

I'm coming to the above conclusion also coz Savarimuthu deliberately covers his neck with towel all the time.

I did notice
From: aanaa on Thu Jan 26 22:52:46 2006. [Full View]

Naaga wrote:

Aanaa, for origami diagrams, try here...
http://dev.origami.com/diagram.cfm

thank you Naga
From: Naaga on Thu Jan 26 23:50:05 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

(Finally, the important wiring inside Somu's brain gets connected) screams..."god"! (he is worse than a sodium vapour lamp)

I have always held........In a mystery story never let the audience feel that they know more than the character.....and in comedies do the reverse.....

This is one case where my screen play structuring, i feel, is a little loose..........

If you look at it TS, Somu had never been given the info on "GOD"....beforehand.......

He jus came to suspect. And, from the "10 rupees" guy guiding him to seek out Pazhani....to... him confronting God......happens within 24 hours...(real time)
From: kamban on Fri Jan 27 5:26:12 2006. [Full View]

hi i am new to chat Pl welcome me

From: ts on Fri Jan 27 5:30:46 2006.

Naaga wrote:

I have always held........In a mystery story never let the audience feel that they know more than the character.....and in comedies do the reverse.....

This is one case where my screen play structuring, i feel, is a little loose..........

If you look at it TS, Somu had never been given the info on "GOD"....beforehand.......

He jus came to suspect. And, from the "10 rupees" guy guiding him to seek out Pazhani....to... him confronting God......happens within 24 hours...(real time)

Naaga,

I have to agree with you on that. This is one script where the audience know (or made to believe that they know) a little bit more than the main character. To avoid this, you have to compromise on timescale and pace of the story and it might lead to other loose ends. It was just a comment and not a rant

Smile

.. was accusing Somu for being dumb and not the script

Smile

Thanks for your explanation anyway

Cool

From: kamban on Fri Jan 27 5:37:05 2006. [Full View]

I hope there is a answer for L in this link..
http://www.aidsmeds.com/news/v04190002.html.

Forgive me if it is stupied post from me..
From: arunvani on Fri Jan 27 5:40:23 2006. [Full View]

[Have been thinking about it for sometime now and the only LI that makes sense is exactly what Akash wrote - Leukemia and Immunodeficiency ( the tillai extract, seemingly has anti-tumor properties too). So, tillai should be antagonistic (ethirmarai) to L & I.
[/quote]

That is really close and 50% of the Ragasiyam.........Pamrang!

quote from earlier serial:
Anbarasu tells them that SOmu is a serial killer and has killed people for Chuvadis and asks them to be careful. When the Assistant returns, he sees the beggar drawing something in the wall. There he sees a tree and "Thillai Tharum" written under it.
unquote
quote

Granny tells him that he does not have any idea about what had happened to him and the state of the family and goes on speaking about someone who Akash's dad was to marry but called off the wedding and left for the US. This lady never married anyone and was suffering from Leukemia.

Akash writes "Leukemia" in a paper and underneath writes "Immune Deficiency" and circles around the first letters.. which is LI. He then visualises what the beggar had written..."Thillai enbadhu LIyin ethirmarai...."
unquote

quote
Granny tells her that the GGF used to be normal until he found the nadi. After that time, he would be very detatched, always researching into it, not giving importance to people, food or rest and speaking gibberish. She adds that the GGF used to say he has to protect the "sthala Vriksham" and noone knew what it was.
unquote.

Is this "sthala Vriksham" the ragasyam, which should other 50% ??
which will be revealed to world by Dr Thillai Rajan, who may be Agathyan. Normally SthalVriksham can be found in Temples which has medical properties. This one should be in Thillai Natarajar Temple.
From: shivadev on Fri Jan 27 7:15:22 2006. [Full View]

வணக்கம் தோழர்களே,
தங்களை சந்திப்பதில் மகிழ்ச்சி, ஷைனிங்ஸ்டார் மற்றும் தமிழ்ட்ரிக்ஸ் குழுமங்களின் மூலம் இங்கு வந்து உங்களிடம் இணைவதில் மகிழ்ச்சி அடைகின்றேன், நானும் அந்த வலைத்தளங்களில் இருந்து தொடர்ந்து இந்த சிதம்பர ரகசியத்தினை தரவிரக்கம் செய்து பார்த்துவருகின்றேன், நன்றிகள் , அதுபற்றி கருத்துரையாடல் குழுவில் கலந்துகொள்ள வாய்ப்பளித்தமைக்கு....என்னைப்பற்றி....நான் ஷிவா...வயது 32, தி.மு.(திருமணத்திற்கு முன்பான காலகட்டத்தில் உள்ளேன்) பணி: ஆராய்ச்சி, இந்திய தொழில்நுட்பக்கழகம் என்று அழைக்கப்படும் ஐஐடி யில் பிஹெச்டி, பயோமெக்கானிக்ஸ் என்னும் உயிரியந்திரவியலில் பணிபுரிகின்றேன், இடுப்பெலும்பிற்கு மாற்றுப்பொருள் கண்டறியும் பணி, இறுதிகட்டத்தில் உள்ளேன்...தங்களுடன் இணைவதில் மகிழ்ச்சி...வணக்கம்
ஷிவாதேவ்...
From: shivadev on Fri Jan 27 7:58:38 2006. [Full View]

will you people able to read in thamizh? I wrote it in unicode , beleiving that you people can read in thamizh, if not, I am sorry, the content of my message is, vanakkam friends, its nice to meet you all, I am a regular watcher of chidambara ragasiyam serial thru net, eventhough I dont have SUNTV facility in my institute I am seeing it thru tamiltricks and shiningstar webforums, thanks for giving me an opportunity to join with you in the discussions, just had a talk with a friend and he also explored the same that the person who took the car lastly willbe that scare man whois killing the people in order, well, about me, I am shiva from IIT Guwahati, Assam, India, a Ph.D scholar in mechanical stream, working with biomechanics of hip joints using different materials...good day.
shivaDEV...
From: aanaa on Fri Jan 27 10:19:21 2006. [Full View]

shivadev wrote:

will you people able to read in thamizh?
shivaDEV...

ofcourse YES

Windows XP by default has unicode embedded for Tamil font too.
others has to download latha font
then no issue in reading Tamil
From: ganeshhg9 on Fri Jan 27 10:36:06 2006. [Full View]

nice work

From: detective on Fri Jan 27 10:53:51 2006.

pamrang wrote:

Also, the sap from this tree is capable of causing blindness ....... YGM would be the one to discover this ragasiyam and while trying to get the sap blind himself?!! That then, would be why he would not be able to "see" his daughter (as per the prediction).

Detective,
The other english alphabets shown during the title - do they seem to make up Leukemia and Immunodeficiency?

Now, that is some serious lateral thinking!!! One problem though. It should take a while for Dr. Thillai to discover this. And I assume he will become only towards the end of his discovery. Won't that take some ''serial" time?

I don't remember the other English alphabets in the titles. I don't tape it regularly. These days, the titles are short because Naga has lot of stuff to fit in 30 minutes.

Can someone else check this?

From: detective on Fri Jan 27 11:02:31 2006.

Naaga wrote:

detective wrote:

Ultimately, I think this is one of the things that will be left unanswered in the serial.

Exclamation

Is the "title sequence"........ part of the story's narration or not? Exclamation

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Do you mean the "thillai enbadhu....edhirmarai" sentence? Then, my answer is, No. The story has some connection to Thillai - part of it happens in Chidhambaram and there is a prominent character called Thillai. Apart from that, I don't see any connection. This, of course, is the situation now. Once you explain what L I is and now thillai can be an "opposite", then it will make sense. But until then, No.

From: detective on Fri Jan 27 11:18:26 2006.

Naaga wrote:

I have always held........In a mystery story never let the audience feel that they know more than the character.....and in comedies do the reverse.....

This is one case where my screen play structuring, i feel, is a little loose..........

That sounds like a thumb rule in movie making. I will remember that. And thanks for taking the criticism positively.

Naaga wrote:

He jus came to suspect. And, from the "10 rupees" guy guiding him to seek out Pazhani....to... him confronting God......happens within 24 hours...(real time)

It is 24 hrs real time for Somu, but more than 24 days for us. As such, we are used to the hero being smart. After 75 episodes, when he sees a posting from kadavuL, that Thulasi is apple-to-his-eye, he should have got it immediately (duh!!)

From: ssanjinika on Fri Jan 27 11:56:01 2006. [Full View]

I actually like the fact that the hero is a bit dumb .Though its bugging,its a welcome change from all the heros who are supermans .
Somu is emotional and scared.Hes not thinking rationally.Agreed that he should have thought of GOD imm after he saw the post but being as emotional as he is about his mentor I guess he just wasnt thinking clearly.Must be the reason why he disregarded the inspectors words too.

From: vekala on Fri Jan 27 12:10:29 2006.

pamrang wrote:

TS,

Also, the sap from this tree is capable of causing blindness (hence, it is also called the blinding tree). Maybe, Thillairajan (YGM) would be the one to discover this ragasiyam and while trying to get the sap (for curing Abirami's aunt and for his daughter, of course) blind himself?!! That then, would be why he would not be able to "see" his daughter (as per the prediction).

Interesting discoveries pamrang!
Even i was wondering on how the prediction abt YG will not see his daughter... will come up!!
My guesses:
1.Now that since YG has become so much involved in astrology....now in Naadi...he might get carried away by all these astroligical stuffs just like Akash GGF and so might try to find a cure for Abirami aunt's cancer....which might lead him to find the "Ragasiyum"...and later he might kind-of become sithar himself...loitering or searching for the quest...thus trailing us to "Agathiyan" guess.
2.B'cos of this quest he might not return to his family ....and thus the prediction that he will not see his daughter again wld become true.

3. I also feel that Somu has got some connection with Akash family...with the clues that "....Akash's dad was to marry but called off the wedding and left for the US. This lady never married anyone and was suffering from Leukemia....."and that
"...in previous birth Somu cheated on a girl and the girl died a sick women...."
So looks like there's some connection here....

Question

Can ayone clarify If Akash dad is still alive or dead? If dead..i guess that Somu is his rebirth and that's how his Naadi is found in Akash house...ie Akash GGF have predicted that too. Since there's already a clue that the GGF has even predicted AKASH name in his suvadi....

4. Abt the 2 groups theory:
All these while or thru' what Somu was tracking ...we came across just the group who took the thumb impression ...but didn't harm anyone. But there has been someone following them ...and killed the victims. Could be a single person or a 2nd group!
But still not very clear why they have to kill those victims and who it cld be

Question

From: detective on Fri Jan 27 12:44:35 2006.

vekala wrote:

Question

Can ayone clarify If Akash dad is still alive or dead? If dead..i guess that Somu is his rebirth and that's how his Naadi is found in Akash house...ie Akash GGF have predicted that too. Since there's already a clue that the GGF has even predicted AKASH name in his suvadi....

The second good thinking today (after the blindness theory). Would be really nice, except that the naadi said Somu's previous birth was in a family belonging to some other caste. I am sure it was not a Brahmin family, like Akash is in right now. Will that refute your theory??

vekala wrote:

But still not very clear why they have to kill those victims and who it cld be Question

Question

Could be because the killers don't want anyone else to get the naadi - then there will be two groups trying to get to the AIDS drug. Their thinking was flawed anyway, because Somu DID get the fingerprint of one of the victims after he was killed. Killers should have cut and removed the thumb instead of (or in addition to) killing them.

From: fanatic on Fri Jan 27 12:46:43 2006. [Full View]

Guys....lets think about the timeframe in which all these incidents are happening. I feel all the incidents may be happening in different time periods. What makes me think so....

1) When Adiyapatham asks Kandan (In one of episodes in 70's) about anyone who died by the name of Pazhani...Kandan replies theres no one in the last 2 years who died of poisoning as per their records. (Or the statement doesnt have any significance and I'm looking too much into it??)

2) When Somu asks Savarimuthu in this weeks episode for records of all travel bookings he asks for only 3 months records. Why so?

Did you guys notice the date (just the date and not the month) been corrected a little to make it 22nd....or is it just me.

3) A few posts earlier Naga has mentioned between the time Somu meets the "10 rupees guy" and coming to God in this weeks episode.... its only 24hrs.

All the Thillai tree, Sthala vricham, ragasiyam etc included Naaga has penned this all well here in diff time periods I think....again I THINK.

Any thoughts/comments?
From: ts on Fri Jan 27 13:00:22 2006. [Full View]

Name Mode Who helped the Killer/group
---- ---- ---------------------------
Palani - Lorry Possibly scarman
Sankaran - OT (Oxytoxin) Possibly scarman
Ponnambalam - OT Dr MOhan
Natesa Sharma - OT Rowdy
Manoharan - OT Officeboy
Ismail - OT AC Mechanic
Perumal Reddy - OT Sekar
Priest - OT Villager
Nandan - OT Villager's friend
Isakki - OT His patient
Seethapathy - OT Mahadevan
Little Somu - OT Scarman

Looking at the list, poison was used on 11/12 cases.

After little somu's death, when Scarman goes to the hospital, mangai asks him not to feel for it and that its all over after just getting one more nadi. This indicates that the scarman was responsible for more deaths.

Scarman seems to get the help of locals to get the finger print and pays them money. Just before the prints are taken, he injects the victims with the poison, goes out and waits for the prints. This way, he has a perfect alibi to escape murder charge. Naaga might be using this to make us think of the two group theory.
Remember Scarman was in the scene of crime almost at all places.

Exception could be Natesa Sharma. Scarman must have given the poison to Dr Mohan asking him to give it to the rowdy.

What do you guys think of this?
From: laddu on Fri Jan 27 15:46:31 2006. [Full View]

You know..I don't understand why they have to kill to get the fingerprints? Group of people are responsible for this..not just kadavul..whoever he is...
It's easy to get their fingerprints, but why kill after taking the finger prints?
Nadi will lead to a cure for Thulasi?
Why inject on Arthi the same virus and return her back to her home?
it's confusing...or may I don't understand the whole story...

Or may be simply tried right now..

Take Care
From: ssanjinika on Fri Jan 27 16:03:27 2006. [Full View]

Quote:

Why inject on Arthi the same virus and return her back to her home?

Reason why they kidnap aarti is very simple.They need
a scapegoat to test the medicine on.Otherwise how will they know if what their medicine works or not.
Why was it aarti?Well it could be bcause she was there and she somehow was on to something.
She is back at her home,does this mean they have successfully discovered the medicine?
But they dont have somu's nadi rite.If somu's nadi is not required at all then,why take his thumb impression?Does this mean that his nadi doesnt contain a part of cure for AIDS?
Its totally confusing now.

From: detective on Fri Jan 27 16:19:36 2006.

ssanjinika wrote:

She is back at her home,does this mean they have successfully discovered the medicine? But they dont have somu's nadi rite.If somu's nadi is not required at all then,why take his thumb impression?Does this mean that his nadi doesnt contain a part of cure for AIDS? Its totally confusing now.

She is back home because the vilians could not trace Somu's naadi, which has the missing piece of the puzzle. They take Somu's fingerprint, go around naadi josiyars in vain, finally come to Anbarasu, only to learn that Akash has the naadi. They go to him and realize that Akash has lost it. The guy sends an SMS ("suvadi kaaNavillai") to periyavar and periyaver instructs to return Aarthi because now she is an overhead.

From: laddu on Fri Jan 27 16:25:47 2006. [Full View]

If they got Somu's nadi then they wouldn't have released Aarthi? how is that going to help them?...
From: ssanjinika on Fri Jan 27 16:30:45 2006. [Full View]

If the medicine has not been completed how come the virus in her body has been arrested?She is showing signs of improvement.It could only mean that even though the medicine is not complete ,its able to arrest the virus to a certain extent.Anyways this is besides the point.
I have also come to the concusion that there have to be 2 groups involved.One group collecting the suvadis and the other killing the people.Somu wasnt killed even though his thumb impression was taken.Which again supports the theory that another group is involved.
From: detective on Fri Jan 27 16:51:39 2006. [Full View]

laddu wrote:

If they got Somu's nadi then they wouldn't have released Aarthi? how is that going to help them?...

If Somu's naadi was found, that would lead them to the cure. Then, they need Aarthi to test the cure.

But Somu's naadi cannot be found. Without that, there is no complete cure. If Aarthi cannot be completely cured, there is no point holding on to her. So she has been returned.

Do I make sense now?
From: vekala on Fri Jan 27 16:55:08 2006. [Full View]

Even i have the same Question....When Tulasi has already experimented with herself why try again on Arthi?
That too SPECIFICALLY why Arthi...y not on some orphan
On what guts they sent Arthi back home...b'cos they know for sure she will be ok...and can identify the persons behind this...then won't they get caught!!!
All too confusing....
From: ssanjinika on Fri Jan 27 17:01:33 2006. [Full View]

They dont know if arthi will be ok..The medicine was not completed remember?They dont have somus nadi.
Thulasi could be totally ignorant of the proceedings.Also the medicine has not been tested on anyone yet.Why would "Kadavul" administer it to Thulasi who is the "apple of his eyes".
As I said earlier, the reason they selected arthi could be because she was available and also probably because she was getting close to them.She was investigating something rite.
From: vekala on Fri Jan 27 17:15:55 2006. [Full View]

But Dr. Mangai mentions that the virus has been arrested and as a side effect Arthi wld be like a vegetable for sometime but will RECOVER soon.
So they do know for sure, she will be ok, i mean.... even if she is not completely cured of AIDS but still mentally & physically she will be ok (...if thatz what they mean)...and if she is gonna get ok then she is for sure to identify them....then on what guts is she brought back home??? Really doesn't make any sense.
From: ssanjinika on Fri Jan 27 17:23:21 2006. [Full View]

Well..Dr Mangai could be lying .
She probably just said that coz she wanted to just ease the mothers mind...or cud be that she thought that kadavul will be able to get the last suvadi soon and they will complete the drug.One thing we know for sure is that without somu's suvadi the drug cant be completed..and they dont have it yet.
From: shivadev on Fri Jan 27 17:24:52 2006. [Full View]

and beyond this, that arthi's father's assistant lady doctor was known by arthi already and how they dare to release arthi again? wont she inform to her dad that it was his asst? its a bit confusing in this serial.....
From: vekala on Fri Jan 27 17:36:03 2006. [Full View]

Also the Asst comm character is not portrayed well....he is being so tender with all the suspects...That too with a case of 11 murders and a kidnap....no cop wld behave like this.
When a suspect says he will not utter a word against kaduval...won't the police have their own style/treatment (dishum...dishum...) to get the truth out of their mouth. But here the AC doesn't even touch them...he just shoots a few questions and that's it!
One way it's nice to see a soft cop like this...unlike the irritating and disgusting harsh and bad cops in almost all the serials and cinemas who yell n shout and kick the suspects all the time!!
From: vekala on Fri Jan 27 17:49:24 2006. [Full View]

ssanjinika wrote:

Well..Dr Mangai could be lying .
She probably just said that coz she wanted to just ease the mothers mind...

Just a recall ...
When Tulasi and editor visit Arthi....Thulasi tells them that Arthi cannot talk right now but will be okay. She tells them that she was in the same condition after she injected the Aids virus to herself and the key to cure is the Rahasiyam. Sivakami breaks down after listening to this. Editor pacifies her and asks her not to listen to Thulasi. Thulasi gives Archana an origamy of a golden leaf and tells them that it will take months for Arthi to speak but she will get well eventually....

So Arthi is expected to physically get well after a period....
From: detective on Fri Jan 27 17:58:56 2006. [Full View]

vekala wrote:

So Arthi is expected to physically get well after a period....

By which time Dr.Mangai would be in some "foreign country", in her own words.

From: vekala on Fri Jan 27 18:02:26 2006.

shivadev wrote:

and beyond this, that arthi's father's assistant lady doctor was known by arthi already and how they dare to release arthi again? wont she inform to her dad that it was his asst? its a bit confusing in this serial..... Smile

Smile

When Somu enquires Mangai...she admits everything and tells that she would be out of the country soon....and cannot be traced.

I think this answers to some extent why Arthi's is sent back home. So even if she recovers and points to Mangai she wil no longer be there!

From: vekala on Fri Jan 27 18:05:49 2006. [Full View]

Ahaa detective ...u r too quick
i was trying to reply on that ....and by the time i came back...u have already posted!
Anyhow thanks!
From: vekala on Fri Jan 27 18:10:13 2006. [Full View]

I knew the answer on Mangai already....but my doubt was that apart from Mangai there was some 2-3 guys around Arthi...and one for sure was the scar man. So won't she testify against them!

They had a plan to escape Managi...but what abt the others?

From: jaiganes on Sat Jan 28 3:55:23 2006.

detective wrote:

vekala wrote:

Question

Can ayone clarify If Akash dad is still alive or dead? If dead..i guess that Somu is his rebirth and that's how his Naadi is found in Akash house...ie Akash GGF have predicted that too. Since there's already a clue that the GGF has even predicted AKASH name in his suvadi....

The second good thinking today (after the blindness theory). Would be really nice, except that the naadi said Somu's previous birth was in a family belonging to some other caste. I am sure it was not a Brahmin family, like Akash is in right now. Will that refute your theory??

vekala wrote:

But still not very clear why they have to kill those victims and who it cld be Question

Question

Could be because the killers don't want anyone else to get the naadi - then there will be two groups trying to get to the AIDS drug. Their thinking was flawed anyway, because Somu DID get the fingerprint of one of the victims after he was killed. Killers should have cut and removed the thumb instead of (or in addition to) killing them.

Killers dont have to do that as it is a stated theory and belief that nadi should not be read for dead people. The main aim of the killer group is to prevent the nadis being read. Cutting fingers and carrying is a messy business you see. You might leave more trail there and it is easy to just finish off someone in Indian Thatha style. And Indian Thatha also used varma-k-kalai and attacked certain nadis didn't he?

From: jaiganes on Sat Jan 28 4:04:56 2006. [Full View]

As far as the scarman goes, it is a deliberate attempt . The scar is a fake and it is aimed at misleading the witnesses. I mean the scar is actually intended to distract the person from other features and focus more on the scar and of course to keep the audience guessing.
From: noddykanna on Sat Jan 28 5:20:55 2006. [Full View]

Can anyone please upload the lastest episodes if they have it in megaupload?
From: arunvani on Sat Jan 28 15:03:58 2006. [Full View]

There is two group theory. One is trying to get the naadi and other one is killing the the fellows whose naadi is taken. I think the group which kills is an opposite group, which tries to prevent naadi being read because naadi should/shall not be read for dead people. This killer group does not want the rahasyam to go to the finger print group.
This is just an assumption.
From: shivadev on Sat Jan 28 15:47:42 2006. [Full View]

good guess arun, may be possible???
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From: karthik_rcs on Sat Jan 28 23:22:13 2006. [Full View]

CHIDAMBARAM TEMPLE
http://www.templenet.com/Tamilnadu/s122.html

TILLAI found here
http://www.khandro.net/nature_trees.htm
From: rein on Sun Jan 29 15:45:48 2006. [Full View]

You guys I think the reason Arthi was kidnapped was in her Naadi it says she'll get Aids but can be cured you need 12 of the medicines, right? So I think part of the reason they started this was because the apple of "god's" eye injected herself with Aids. SO God is struggling to find a cure. The reason they sent her back is cause the disease is arrested just like for Thulasi but until the final suvadi( Somu's is found) they can't completely cure either Arthi or Thulasi.

This is just my 2 cents. I still haven't ruled out Vishnu as Thulasi could also be the 'apple' of his eye. And editor Kumaraguru isn't doing anything because Vishnu started it, I mean he too wants his daughter cured.

I don't know, I'm thinking its, editor, Kumaraguru or Akash's dad.

From: Naaga on Mon Jan 30 2:32:37 2006.

Name Mode Who helped the Killer/group
---- ---- ---------------------------
Palani - Lorry Possibly scarman
Sankaran - OT (Oxytoxin) Possibly scarman
Ponnambalam - OT Dr MOhan
Natesa Sharma - OT Rowdy
Manoharan - OT Officeboy
Ismail - OT AC Mechanic
Perumal Reddy - OT Sekar
Priest - OT Villager
Nandan - OT Villager's friend
Isakki - OT His patient
Seethapathy - OT Mahadevan
Little Somu - OT Scarman

Looking at the list, poison was used on 11/12 cases.

TS, a small correction in this.......Oxy(di)toxin is mentioned only once and that is in connection with Kizhambur Ponnambalam's death. Never before and never again.
Jus checked in after a long time....
(Incidentally did u notice my new signature.........that is an anagram of "Chidambara Ragasiyam"........was trying out a software called Anagram genius and came up with this......
Guess, what it threw up for "Metti Oli"......!!?!)

From: ts on Mon Jan 30 5:48:36 2006.

Naaga wrote:

Name Mode Who helped the Killer/group
---- ---- ---------------------------
Palani - Lorry Possibly scarman
Sankaran - OT (Oxytoxin) Possibly scarman
Ponnambalam - OT Dr MOhan
Natesa Sharma - OT Rowdy
Manoharan - OT Officeboy
Ismail - OT AC Mechanic
Perumal Reddy - OT Sekar
Priest - OT Villager
Nandan - OT Villager's friend
Isakki - OT His patient
Seethapathy - OT Mahadevan
Little Somu - OT Scarman

Looking at the list, poison was used on 11/12 cases.

TS, a small correction in this.......Oxy(di)toxin is mentioned only once and that is in connection with Kizhambur Ponnambalam's death. Never before and never again.
Jus checked in after a long time....
(Incidentally did u notice my new signature.........that is an anagram of "Chidambara Ragasiyam"........was trying out a software called Anagram genius and came up with this......
Guess, what it threw up for "Metti Oli"......!!?!)

I guess i took the liberty of extrapolating it to all cases..

Smile

... but then it must be some poison that killed them.

Naaga, you can get anagrams online at: http://www.wordsmith.org/anagram/

Anagrams for Metti Oli:

Time Toil Smile

Smile

Smile

Smile

I(')M Toilet
IO IT MELT (ayyo it melt)
Let i Omit (not perfect grammer)

From: Naaga on Mon Jan 30 7:41:31 2006. [Full View]

Thanx TS.......i've got the software "Anagram genius"......n its really cool.

Anagram for Metti Oli.........i thought "Toil Time" described the story........

From: detective on Mon Jan 30 10:52:51 2006.

jaiganes wrote:

As far as the scarman goes, it is a deliberate attempt . The scar is a fake and it is aimed at misleading the witnesses. I mean the scar is actually intended to distract the person from other features and focus more on the scar and of course to keep the audience guessing.

Then why does Dr.Mangai tell him to hide his scar as Somu is looking at the neck of everyone on the street??

From: detective on Mon Jan 30 11:03:47 2006.

arunvani wrote:

I think the group which kills is an opposite group, which tries to prevent naadi being read because naadi should/shall not be read for dead people. This killer group does not want the rahasyam to go to the finger print group

I don't think it is practical. With corruption pervading into every facet of our society, including religion, are the naadi joasiyars an exception? Is the killing group that naive?? It will be absolute foolishness to kill 12 people, assuming that naadi joasiyars will always be honest to their profession. There is already proof in the serial that the finger print group managed to get the actual naadi itself (not the notebook, which is the norm), of many, if not all, victims. I think this is proof enough that the motive of the ONLY group is that the naadi of the victim should not be available to anybody other than themselves.

From: ts on Mon Jan 30 11:37:35 2006. [Full View]

We saw a few nadi kattus at Ponnambalam's house, Sankaran Vadhiyar's place, Isakki's house and the priest's room in the church (chapel?) where he was killed. Were they collecting nadi josiya kattus too???

It could be that these people already knew that their nadis contained details about medication and taken the nadis/copies from their respective josiyars. Some of them could be trying to collect nadis of others in the list. The "group" in question killed them off so that they do not claim a share as they know what it was worth.

Also, there could be a super kadavul who our God is trying to protect and he must be the other 50% of the Chidambara Rahasiyam and like the rahasiyam in the temple, we might not even get to know/see this person.

From: detective on Mon Jan 30 12:21:20 2006.

It could be that these people already knew that their nadis contained details about medication and taken the nadis/copies from their respective josiyars. Some of them could be trying to collect nadis of others in the list. The "group" in question killed them off so that they do not claim a share as they know what it was worth

This is more probable. It would hold good for Palani as well; he knew for sure that his naadi was worth something.

Also, there could be a super kadavul who our God is trying to protect and he must be the other 50% of the Chidambara Rahasiyam and like the rahasiyam in the temple, we might not even get to know/see this person.

Not revealing the main villian will be a lame end to the serial. I am sure Naga wouldn't want to do that. The ragasiyam that will never be "understood", would probably be the cure to L and I.

From: laddu on Mon Jan 30 15:09:33 2006. [Full View]

I think of all the killings, someone faked their death. Akash is probably doing that reseach, he's been gone for a while now. He'll change God's fate by bringing in the evidence or the faker...or may be something might click on Somu's head like usual and run again searching for the real killer.......running my imagination wild.

From: pamrang on Mon Jan 30 16:47:58 2006.

laddu wrote:

I think of all the killings, someone faked their death. Akash is probably doing that reseach, he's been gone for a while now. He'll change God's fate by bringing in the evidence or the faker...or may be something might click on Somu's head like usual and run again searching for the real killer.......running my imagination wild. Idea

Idea

Weren't the police present at the scene of crime after every death? If so, how could anybody have faked a death (there seems to have been no foul play with the body)?

Also, I was wondering if "god", just like the others who work for "kadavul" and do not betray him, works for the real "kadavul" and used his nickname (god) to advantage here to protect "kadavul" and took up the blame! The AC did not say what kind of evidence (other than verbal - from Dr.Mangai and others) they had against Kumaraguru, did he?

From: sreeramtcs on Tue Jan 31 6:59:08 2006. [Full View]

[quote="ts"]We saw a few nadi kattus at Ponnambalam's house, Sankaran Vadhiyar's place, Isakki's house and the priest's room in the church (chapel?) where he was killed. Were they collecting nadi josiya kattus too???

It could be that these people already knew that their nadis contained details about medication and taken the nadis/copies from their respective josiyars. Some of them could be trying to collect nadis of others in the list. The "group" in question killed them off so that they do not claim a share as they know what it was worth.

I feel TS is correct. May be these 12(if not most of them) people should be knowing that their nadi has the ragasiyam. Also they may form a secret society hiding the secret(like Davinci code). And these people are killed to know the secret.
From: usfan on Tue Jan 31 16:33:11 2006. [Full View]

Hi all! I have been watching CR on TV and catching up on missed episodes via the excellent synopsis provided here by hubbers. Thanks!

CR is by far the most exciting serial on SUN TV (or any other TV!) and I look forward to wednesdays for the next chapter in this nail-biting mystery. Having Naga repond to this forum is icing on top of the cake

In all these posts, I haven't seen anyone point out the death of the beggar in the early episodes. I think he is the missing link in the puzzle.

I think that he is one of the people in the list of 12 and one of the victims has been bumped off accidently (either that or is faking death) That's the reason the total solution/cure has not been found yet. The fact that he was "covered with paper with complex mathematical workings" implies that there is more to him than meets/met the eye.

Keep in mind that Somu does have the beggars fingerprint so that when the lightbulb goes off in his head, he can retrieve the nadi josiyam and complete the missing piece of the puzzle. Perhaps a visit to the mortuary to get his name may be in order?

What do you guys think?
From: shivadev on Wed Feb 1 3:35:09 2006. [Full View]

he has already read the naadi of that begger , USFAN, the naadi said he is dead, then when somu comesout that time he sees the begger as a dead body out correct? so that link also gone...what else?
From: sangeetha_me on Wed Feb 1 23:22:25 2006. [Full View]

My guess is that there are 2 groups involved..one which kidnapped Aarthi..which is the God (editor) and group comprising of Kandan, Mangai, Padma etc and the other doing all the killings. The second group I believe consist of Parameshwara Dikshitar..and certain unsuspected characrters like Manikandan may be involved in it. This may be the group that may be doing the killings. Both the groups need the cure..one for the cure of "L" and the other for the cure of "I".
From: bpbp on Thu Feb 2 1:30:20 2006. [Full View]

Today's show is kind of disappointing...Nothing great revealed. Waited in front of the TV eagerly to find out the ragasiyam but it''s too dragging and ended bit early...

But still CR rockssssssssssssss....only serial I watch without missing.
From: shivadev on Thu Feb 2 3:52:26 2006. [Full View]

what happend in this week? any updates please??? hello? TS? r u there online? else detective? ennappa aachi? intha vaaram? seekiram kathai podunga...waiting...
From: ts on Thu Feb 2 5:43:26 2006. [Full View]

shivadev wrote:

what happend in this week? any updates please??? hello? TS? r u there online? else detective? ennappa aachi? intha vaaram? seekiram kathai podunga...waiting...

I live halfway around the world from you and Detective lives on the other side. So... the best thing to do is have some patience
From: ts on Thu Feb 2 5:45:45 2006. [Full View]

AC tells Kumaraguru that he is under arrest. Kumaraguru protests and pleads that he is innocent and that the AC has no evidence to arrest him. AC shows him a vintage watch and tells him that it was found at Tamil Vadhiyar's house. There are only 2 of them available, one is with some Dwaraknath in chennai and the other with the editor. Furthermore, he says, the watch had a few finger prints and they belonged to the editor. AC thanks vishnu for getting the editor's finger prints which helped them do the comparison. He tells the editor that based on the evidence, he is arresting him on murder charge. Editor asks the AC why he hadn�t done this before. He could have saved a few lives. AC tells him that he was a big shot in the society and they had to pin him down with evidence before they could approach him. He says that the case had come to his dept only after the murders. Thulasi gets wild and screams "murderer... did you kill..." repeatedly. Vishnu pacifies her... somu breaks down. Police take kumaraguru away. Mukilan comes from the backyard totally oblivious of what�s happened. They tell them that the editor has been arrested and he says that they made a big mistake. He goes outside and Somu asks him what he is up to. He tells them the Poojari (priest) belongs to wherever the Kadavul is... and leaves. Somu follows him.

AC interrogates editor but editor is adamant and says that he has no part in any of this. He says that he had been to the vadhiyar's house but could have missed the watch there anytime. AC tells him that the watch was fully wound and functioning when they found it. He shows him the nadis they got from where Arthi was kept and tells him that they were Palani's nadi and that he found the 12 names from Arthis nadi book that he took from Thillairajan. He says that he had run a background check on Mangai, Kanthan, Padma and Prabu and all lead to the editor. He shows the "Hue" printouts and reads out Kadavul's post there and comments that there is noone to whom Thulasi is an apple to the eye. It must be the editor. This proves editors involvement in the murders and hence he is under arrest. Editor rubbishes it and asks him why he had to kill the people, which makes no sense. AC tells him that he wanted the 12 thumb impressions and many in the list are not poor. Reddiar, Ismail an Manoharan would not readily give their thumb impression. Editor tells him that if the AC could get his fingerprints, he could have got the prints of the 12 as well. AC tells him that it is impossible to isolate the right thumb impression from an object that has many fingerprints.

The editor tries to say something when he notices Padma, Mangai, Kanthan etal coming inside the room. Ac lines them up. He tells the editor that he gathered information about each of them and that eveyone is indebted to the editor in someway. Padma was his driver's son and when the driver passed away, editor had brought him up. Mangai and Prabhu were from an orphanage and editor gave them a good life. He helped kanthan in many ways and the odd one out is anbarasu, who will do anything for money. The editor had paid his debts off and hence he is showing his allegiance.

AC tells the editor that he had taken lease of some properties from the reddiar and had setup a pharmaceutical company there. TK Pharma belonged to him and shows the lease agreement. He adds that T was for Thulasi and K for Kumaraguru and tells him that they are suspecting Thulasi as well in this case. Editor is shattered upon listening to this and tells the editor that he will confess and there is no reason to suspect or bring in Thulasi. Padma, mangai etc start to shout and tell the AC that they did the kidnap and other things and that the editor has no involvement. Editor shoos them off and tells them that he did all this for his daughter but if it should affect her, it makes no sense. He tells the AC that he is ready to confess and to let the others go. AC tells them that this is a serial murder case and that he cannot release someone just because the other party asks for it. He tells them that they will be under his custody until the case is finished.

AC sends the others off and asks the editor to begin. The editor has some water and starts and just then a policeman comes inside and informs them that mukilan and somu have come to visit him. AC asks Somu and mukilan to come inside and tells mukilan that he was after him. He asks them to have a seat. Editor hesitates to begin but AC tells him that he needs somu there so that he can cross verify things.

Editor starts to narrate what had happened. He tells them about Thulasi's second PhD research which started off with Mukilan's nadis. The nadis indicated that there was a cure for AIds but was missing details. Thulasi had seen Palani's posts and had replied to it and had asked the editor to trace him. Palani was living in Nesapakkam at that time and was complaining about lorry tankers sucking in too much ground water in his locality. He had protested against the companies and when things went pear shaped, he had to leave the area. Editor says that his men were unable to locate palani....thodarum
From: aanaa on Thu Feb 2 9:39:06 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

AC tells Kumaraguru ...thodarum

thank u

prompt upate is going on here by TS
donot know why people screeming yet?

almost at the end..?
From: shivadev on Thu Feb 2 9:56:28 2006. [Full View]

நல்ல ஒரு தொகுப்பு,
நன்றிகள் திரு. டி.எஸ்.

Its a nice update, thanks Mr.TS
good day
Shiva
From: vekala on Thu Feb 2 10:46:21 2006. [Full View]

When the AC was summing up everything.... i felt like a sum up of all the wild guesses we came across in hub. It seemed to be a confirmation....that's it! But still interesting.....

Though Kaduval is caught there's gonna be sure a twist as to who the actual murderer is....definetely he is trying to cover for someone......Who is it?!! i just cldn't wait till that!!! Mandeye vedichudum polla errukku....Ahhhhhh!!!
From: vekala on Thu Feb 2 10:52:58 2006. [Full View]

Now that the serial is so close to end...i feel soooo sad!
This is the ONE & ONLY gud serial in SUN which was worth watching. Especially discussing that on HUB was still more interesting!
All this fun is gonna end soon....

Naga, Whether i shld continue the SUN TV connection now depends on you. If u assure to give another wonderful creation like this...i wil have the con....otherwise i am gonna disconnect!

Hats off to u Naga...for such creativity! Our wishes, blessings and support will be there always!
From: laddu on Thu Feb 2 11:10:53 2006. [Full View]

Hey All,

Somehow I didn't feel like something new came out when AC confronted kumaraguru..it could be because of our discussions in the forum. Good and Bad.
Now the gardener says "if kadavul goes pujari goes too" and I'm finding it hard to understand his roll here - although at the end they say mukilan's nadi findings started everything. Still..he was always shown as a gardener talking to the plants.
They still didn't show the 'thalumbu guy' - I guess we'll know in the next couple of episodes who that is.
Why would the AC want Somu to confirm 'God's' answers?
Don't they usually know more than Somu?
Oh well, I'll wait for our fellow hubber's thoughts or may be Naga himself can give us tit bits on this.

Chao,
From: ts on Thu Feb 2 11:25:24 2006. [Full View]

AC wants to make sure editor is speaking the truth. Thats the reason he wants Somu when editor is confessing. This also puts pressure on the editor to speak the truth as he treats somu like his own son. Also, in most of the murder locations, only somu was present and he is the first witness. AC might want to make sure that what Editor says tallies with what Somu had seen.

Just because Kadavul has been captured doesnt mean end of the serial. We still have the rahasiyam to come, which i know will not come cheap and the Akash's side of story and Somu's nadi. Not much is known about the connection between Akash and Somu. We dont know whats ih Chaya's letter to Somu. Parameswara Dikshitar's sister has to be sorted. The prophecy about Mani is not known. Granny should first of all accept for them to read Somu's nadi.

Eventhough Kadavul has started to confess, there is no assurance that his story is firsthand. Between previous episode and this episode, what seemed to be a surrender by kadavul last week proved otherwise as he contested a lot. He gave up only when Thulasi's was brought up.

All this will take a good few episodes (Naaga please put us out of our misery by confirming my statement). All said and then... you never know the professionals... specially when they act like one
From: sangeetha_me on Thu Feb 2 11:50:40 2006. [Full View]

hi all,

There is something that keeps me wondering. The names of the 12 people whose chuvadi contains the cure for AIDS is given is Aarthi's oushadha kaandam. So, unless the killer group has read Aarthi's oushada kaandam already, they will not know which 12 to kill ! May be, in the case of Pazhani, they would have known that he is one of the 12, as he had himself posted it in the forum, that he had seen his naadi and that it contains the cure for AIDS along with the nadis of 11 others. But what about the rest. How could the killer group have determined the remaining 11 unless they have read Aarthi's naadi? And even after reading it, how will they know it is exactly those 11. Coz Thillai Rajan, even after reading Aarthi naadi and knowing the names of the 11, could not exactly determine which 12. As a matter of fact, even when it says "soma eeshan mutre", he still could not even connect Somu with it !

So I feel, it has to be someone who has already come into contact with Somu's naadi. And the only person, who could have come into contact with it already, that is, after Akash's great grandfather and before Akash is Parameshwara Dikshitar !
From: sangeetha_me on Thu Feb 2 11:59:27 2006. [Full View]

And Parameshwara Dikshitar's sister, Kamakshi is suffering from Leukemia. Right?

Remember what Kadhir says to the AC once about the nadis and Tamizh kaalam. Even the beggar who sits outside Akash's house draws a snake kind of a thing and writes "Kaalam" in it, which again denotes what Kadhir says, that every 60 yrs, Tamil kaalam repeats itself and the josiyam palan of a person who is born after 60 yrs will be the same(more or less) as that of a person who is born at the same time 60 yrs before.

So, that being the case, may be Kamakshi's naadi and Aarthi's naadi are similar. May be Kamakshi's naadi contains the same cure too, and has the names of the same 12 people. So if the killer group has not gotten to read Aarthi's naadi before all the killings started, may be they got to read Kamakshi's naadi. And who would be the first one to know if that is the case? It has to be someone who can read it..thats why I feel Parameshwara Dikshitar should be involved in it.

And remember the scene, when he comes back from his kshetralayam trip, and Akash is eating.. he asks Akash "Chuvadi yellam kadaichudha?" Since he calls Akash's GGF Gurunadhar and paati says he was the only one who understood GGF in his end days, I feel he already knows the contents of Somu's of chuvadi too. Plus, why does he call Akash on his cell phone from Chennai (he once calls him thinking that Akash is in chennai and says that he has to talk to Akash and asks him if he is free at work). Then Akash tells him that he is not in Chennai and that he is in Chidambaram. What does he want to talk to Akash about? I dont think it would have been about marrying Abirami..or would it??

From: Naaga on Thu Feb 2 12:07:30 2006.

Thanx TS for the update.....

Editor starts to narrate what had happened. He tells them about Thulasi's second PhD research which started off with Mukilan's nadis. The nadis indicated that there was a cure for AIds but was missing details.

That's a little misleading TS. Mukilan's Olais are Siddha vaithya Suvadis. Thulasi learns that the missing ingredients of the medicine mentioned in Mukilan's Olai....... is told in Nadi Suvadis from Pazhani's posting.

vekala wrote:

All this fun is gonna end soon....
Naga, Whether i shld continue the SUN TV connection now depends on you. If u assure to give another wonderful creation like this...i wil have the con....otherwise i am gonna disconnect!

Vekala, kindly read TS's post below.......

Eventhough Kadavul has started to confess, there is no assurance that his story is firsthand. Between previous episode and this episode, what seemed to be a surrender by kadavul last week proved otherwise as he contested a lot. He gave up only when Thulasi's was brought up.

All this will take a good few episodes...........

Sure.......it will, TS. Contrary to the belief that the serial is going to end.......I think it is just warming up.......(So much to say and tie-up....the fun part!!!)

From: vekala on Thu Feb 2 12:45:52 2006. [Full View]

Thanks Naga!

Even i agree with u and TS that the serial is sure to go for some more months!
But it wld be better if we know all the 'ragasiyums' soooon...so that we cld atleast save the left out hair in our head !

I am sure everyone is going mad with guesses. Can't take up the suspense for long!

From: ts on Thu Feb 2 13:27:25 2006.

Naaga wrote:

Thanx TS for the update.....

Editor starts to narrate what had happened. He tells them about Thulasi's second PhD research which started off with Mukilan's nadis. The nadis indicated that there was a cure for AIds but was missing details.

That's a little misleading TS. Mukilan's Olais are Siddha vaithya Suvadis. Thulasi learns that the missing ingredients of the medicine mentioned in Mukilan's Olai....... is told in Nadi Suvadis from Pazhani's posting....

Sure.......it will, TS. Contrary to the belief that the serial is going to end.......I think it is just warming up.......(So much to say and tie-up....the fun part!!!)

Yup.. thats what i call as a classic case of being over enthusiastic

Smile

Thanks Naaga for the corrections and your post. There is so much to unravel and i was sure that it will not be done in avasara kolam.

From: encrypter on Thu Feb 2 16:04:42 2006. [Full View]

i still don't think its the editor............
there is still a lot of open ends in the story................
Naaga if u can can u plzzzzzzzzzzz tell me whn the (thillai enbathu 'LI'yin ethirmarai is going to come up!!!
thats really mind boggling for me

From: bpbp on Thu Feb 2 16:05:32 2006.

Naaga wrote:

Thanx TS for the update.....

Editor starts to narrate what had happened. He tells them about Thulasi's second PhD research which started off with Mukilan's nadis. The nadis indicated that there was a cure for AIds but was missing details.

That's a little misleading TS. Mukilan's Olais are Siddha vaithya Suvadis. Thulasi learns that the missing ingredients of the medicine mentioned in Mukilan's Olai....... is told in Nadi Suvadis from Pazhani's posting.

vekala wrote:

All this fun is gonna end soon....
Naga, Whether i shld continue the SUN TV connection now depends on you. If u assure to give another wonderful creation like this...i wil have the con....otherwise i am gonna disconnect!

Vekala, kindly read TS's post below.......

Eventhough Kadavul has started to confess, there is no assurance that his story is firsthand. Between previous episode and this episode, what seemed to be a surrender by kadavul last week proved otherwise as he contested a lot. He gave up only when Thulasi's was brought up.

All this will take a good few episodes...........

Sure.......it will, TS. Contrary to the belief that the serial is going to end.......I think it is just warming up.......(So much to say and tie-up....the fun part!!!)

Naga, it's really happy to hear that the serial is not going to end very soon...bcos I don�t want to see any other dumb serial in that slot. I believe you are going to release each and every knots of the suspense completely. So I expect all the forthcoming episodes are going to be exciting rather than hair standing (even it was fun though)

I kindly request you not to give up the slot even after this serial. Next time, try to take a complete one hour slot. It's really horrible to see hare-brained serials like "Sindbad" & other weekend serials taking 1 hr.

I am expecting more serials like CR and some comedy serials (I don�t know why people are ready to give azhuvaachi serials over comedy serials & thriller...Is it bcos they don�t have to give any work to the brain?)

From: detective on Thu Feb 2 16:12:37 2006.

sangeetha_me wrote:

The names of the 12 people whose chuvadi contains the cure for AIDS is given is Aarthi's oushadha kaandam. So, unless the killer group has read Aarthi's oushada kaandam already, they will not know which 12 to kill !

Why only Aarthi's naadi? The naadi of every AIDS patient will have the same cure. Wouldn't it? Otherwise naadi josiyam will be inconsistant. By that logic, even Thulasi's naadi will have that info.

But how did they find the EXACT 12 is the million dollar q...

From: detective on Thu Feb 2 16:21:56 2006.

sangeetha_me wrote:

... that every 60 yrs, Tamil kaalam repeats itself and the josiyam palan of a person who is born after 60 yrs will be the same(more or less) as that of a person who is born at the same time 60 yrs before. So, that being the case, may be Kamakshi's naadi and Aarthi's naadi are similar. .....thats why I feel Parameshwara Dikshitar should be involved in it.

Are you saying Kamakshi and Aarthi were born 60 years apart? Aarthi should be at least 20 years old. Is Kamakshi 80?? Looks and logic suggest otherwise.

But it is possible that Kamakshi's suvadi also points to the same cure that is encrypted in 12 other suvadis. It is almost an accepted fact that the same ragasiyam cures both L and I. So it is possible that the same 12 were referred.

But does Pasameswara Deekshidhar (I will call him PD, to save myself from carpal tunnelling) have the means to do all this? He might be secretly funded by Akash's dad. Why would Akash's dad do this? Because he is guilty for refusing to marry Kamakshi and wants to help her now.

From: detective on Thu Feb 2 16:25:59 2006. [Full View]

Naaga wrote:

Contrary to the belief that the serial is going to end.......I think it is just warming up.......(So much to say and tie-up....the fun part!!!)

But are the "15 days" over?? I mean the time Somu will take to trace the main villian.

The editor would probably say that he took the prints all right. But did not do any killing and all the people were already dead or killed, paving way for the 2 group theory.
From: detective on Thu Feb 2 17:58:25 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

editor has some water and starts and

Did you notice the water bottle?? It is no longer Aquafina. AC's office has shifted allegiance from Pepsi to Coca-Cola. May be that is the reason why he is turned real smart now

From: sangeetha_me on Thu Feb 2 18:17:37 2006.

[quote="detective"]

sangeetha_me wrote:

... that every 60 yrs, Tamil kaalam repeats itself and the josiyam palan of a person who is born after 60 yrs will be the same(more or less) as that of a person who is born at the same time 60 yrs before. So, that being the case, may be Kamakshi's naadi and Aarthi's naadi are similar. .....thats why I feel Parameshwara Dikshitar should be involved in it.

Are you saying Kamakshi and Aarthi were born 60 years apart? Aarthi should be at least 20 years old. Is Kamakshi 80?? Looks and logic suggest otherwise.

Hi Detective..i dont know actually.. I did not watch the episode where Thillai Rajan meets PD's sis. So it was a guess. I just read the updates. How old does Kamakshi look? Aarthi is 22...yes..that would mean..Kamakshi should be 82 !! Somehow i feel that the 60 yrs thing and naadi repitition funda are used somewhere and some 2 people here have similar palans.

From: sangeetha_me on Thu Feb 2 18:25:25 2006.

detective wrote:

sangeetha_me wrote:

The names of the 12 people whose chuvadi contains the cure for AIDS is given is Aarthi's oushadha kaandam. So, unless the killer group has read Aarthi's oushada kaandam already, they will not know which 12 to kill !

Why only Aarthi's naadi? The naadi of every AIDS patient will have the same cure. Wouldn't it? Otherwise naadi josiyam will be inconsistant. By that logic, even Thulasi's naadi will have that info.

But how did they find the EXACT 12 is the million dollar q...

Remember the episode in which Mangai holds the phone and the man at the other end listens to all the conversations that happens at Thilla Rajan's house? Whatever Thillai Rajan reads, the man at the other end, has exactly the same thing written on a sheet of paper. So that must have been from Aarthi's oushadha kaandam only. Who else could have possibly read it before Thillai Rajan? Whoever it is, must have done it long before Thillai rajan did, as early as the time when the first killing started. So, wouldn't that be more than 4 to 5 months back? How could that person have gotten access to Aarthi's fingerprint then? I dont think their Met dept even had the finger print security system then..so how did the killer group get Aarthi's finger print so long back to check her naadi?

From: sangeetha_me on Thu Feb 2 18:34:04 2006. [Full View]

Mani has Aarthi's Oushada kaandam..but it was brought by him from the branch in Vaideeshwaran kovil. So does that mean the killer group checked Aarthi's oushada kaandam long before it came to Mani? How?

Besides, as this was already brought up once, I think may be, Tulasi is simply faking her illness. I dont think she injected the virus into herself at all ! Even Vishnu says he did not know what happened to her and he only read it from the univ website about her, then flew to India to see her after reading it. Right? So she might have simply said she injected AIDS virus into herself..and she might have actually not done anything like that at all ! There would be no one to deny the fact that she did not, just as there would be no one to confirm the fact ! Because, as per this episode, if it is the Editor and group that kidnapped Aarthi and tested the drug on her, they would know, the testing would exactly stop where it has stopped now..unless they get the 12th naadi ! So would it not have easier for them, to get only Somy's nadi and give only that left out part of the cure to Tulasi and try it? Why go through the whole experiment with Aarthi when they know the Tulasi has already done it to herself? Wouldnt they know, it would just be redundant?

From: detective on Thu Feb 2 18:36:53 2006.

sangeetha_me wrote:

Remember the episode in which Mangai holds the phone and the man at the other end listens to all the conversations that happens at Thilla Rajan's house? Whatever Thillai Rajan reads, the man at the other end, has exactly the same thing written on a sheet of paper. So that must have been from Aarthi's oushadha kaandam only.

Why should the list be ONLY in Aarthi's maruthuva gaandam? She does not belong to some Ivy league. If there is another person with AIDS, Thulasi for eg, the same cure will be in his/her maruthuva gaandam too.

From: sangeetha_me on Thu Feb 2 18:39:16 2006. [Full View]

And in the updates by TS, it was mentioned that after AArthi returns, editor, tulasi all of them go to see her. Then I think Tulasi says something like "Aarthi will get okay soon..and that she herself was like this once she had injected the virus into herself..".

But then, Tulasi could not have had access to the 11 nadis that are available to the killer group now. So how could she have had the medication stated in them? Does it mean that Mukilan's siddha olai chuvadi already has the info that is contained in all the other 11 nadi's except Somu's? If that is the case, then why kill those 11 people to collect it at all?

Too confusing..thats y..to make it simpler..i feel Tulasi would not have injected any AIDS Virus at all !

From: sangeetha_me on Thu Feb 2 18:46:49 2006.

detective wrote:

sangeetha_me wrote:

Remember the episode in which Mangai holds the phone and the man at the other end listens to all the conversations that happens at Thilla Rajan's house? Whatever Thillai Rajan reads, the man at the other end, has exactly the same thing written on a sheet of paper. So that must have been from Aarthi's oushadha kaandam only.

Why should the list be ONLY in Aarthi's maruthuva gaandam? She does not belong to some Ivy league. If there is another person with AIDS, Thulasi for eg, the same cure will be in his/her maruthuva gaandam too.

Yeah Detective, thats why I feel may be the other person we are talking about here, could be Kamakshi. But then..look..this repitition funda will apply to the 12 nadis in ques too !! would it not? Like..u want Pazhani's naadi..why bother killing him? Find a kid who is born 60 years after Pazhani..grr..okay Pazhani is not yet 60 ! Then try this with someone like Tamil Vaadhiyaar Nambi's naadi ! Then, there would be so many naadi's in which the killer group can find the cure ! So what is all the commotion about !

Shocked

God, this serial is driving me nuts !!! Grrrrrrrrr....Naaga !! Hats off to you..I have never thought so much about my studies too all my life like this !

Very Happy

From: detective on Thu Feb 2 18:50:55 2006.

sangeetha_me wrote:

if it is the Editor and group that kidnapped Aarthi and tested the drug on her, they would know, the testing would exactly stop where it has stopped now..unless they get the 12th naadi ! So would it not have easier for them, to get only Somy's nadi and give only that left out part of the cure to Tulasi and try it? Why go through the whole experiment with Aarthi when they know the Tulasi has already done it to herself? Wouldnt they know, it would just be redundant?

Maybe the 12th ingredient will not work separately. Maybe it will work ONLY if given alongwith the other 11. So giving that to Thulasi NOW will not work. They needed another person to start afresh and Aarthi was the chosen one.

But you have a good point. If thulasi already has the first 11 ingredients, why hunt for those 11 naadis?

We have asked many such questions. It may not be possible for Naga to answer these at this point. But he better be prepared with an answer 'cos we aint gonna give up!!!

From: detective on Thu Feb 2 18:58:51 2006.

sangeetha_me wrote:

Yeah Detective, thats why I feel may be the other person we are talking about here, could be Kamakshi. But then..look..this repitition funda will apply to the 12 nadis in ques too !! would it not?

No, I am not talking about the repetitive concept. I pooh-poohed it when it was referred to first, and I still do it now. It will hold good for horoscope, that the planets may realign in the same spot once in 60 years, but not naadi jOsiyam. Naadi jOsiyam is based on the thumb print and that NEVER REPEATS ITSELF.

What I am saying is: If there are a million people with AIDS, the maruthuva kaandam of ALL of them should have the same list of 12 people.

P.S. Use of upper case is merely to stress on a few words.

From: sangeetha_me on Thu Feb 2 19:17:57 2006.

detective wrote:

sangeetha_me wrote:

Yeah Detective, thats why I feel may be the other person we are talking about here, could be Kamakshi. But then..look..this repitition funda will apply to the 12 nadis in ques too !! would it not?

No, I am not talking about the repetitive concept. I pooh-poohed it when it was referred to first, and I still do it now. It will hold good for horoscope, that the planets may realign in the same spot once in 60 years, but not naadi jOsiyam. Naadi jOsiyam is based on the thumb print and that NEVER REPEATS ITSELF.

What I am saying is: If there are a million people with AIDS, the maruthuva kaandam of ALL of them should have the same list of 12 people.

P.S. Use of upper case is merely to stress on a few words.

Okay ! Makes sense..That would maintain the exclusivity of the cure too !

From: rshan on Thu Feb 2 20:05:30 2006. [Full View]

detective wrote:

What I am saying is: If there are a million people with AIDS, the maruthuva kaandam of ALL of them should have the same list of 12 people.

Not unless their Jathakam/Vidhi says they will survive, that too last 80 years!

From: ts on Fri Feb 3 2:17:38 2006.

detective wrote:

sangeetha_me wrote:

if it is the Editor and group that kidnapped Aarthi and tested the drug on her, they would know, the testing would exactly stop where it has stopped now..unless they get the 12th naadi ! So would it not have easier for them, to get only Somy's nadi and give only that left out part of the cure to Tulasi and try it? Why go through the whole experiment with Aarthi when they know the Tulasi has already done it to herself? Wouldnt they know, it would just be redundant?

Maybe the 12th ingredient will not work separately. Maybe it will work ONLY if given alongwith the other 11. So giving that to Thulasi NOW will not work. They needed another person to start afresh and Aarthi was the chosen one.

But you have a good point. If thulasi already has the first 11 ingredients, why hunt for those 11 naadis?

We have asked many such questions. It may not be possible for Naga to answer these at this point. But he better be prepared with an answer 'cos we aint gonna give up!!!

What Thulasi and Arthi had as medication was something to Arrest the spread of Aids and not a cure. The nadis speak of a total cure. This is the reason why the nadis are being sought. May be Thulasi's condition is a side effect of the medication and Arthi is heading the same way.

The group knows that they have the wong somu's nadi. May be there are a couple of "Anbarasu" nadis in them. Hence the medicine is not complete. They didnt want to kill Arthi and hence give her the same medication that Thulasi had...

From: shivadev on Fri Feb 3 3:50:34 2006. [Full View]

அடப்பாவமே????
இன்னும் வருமா? ஆனால் எல்லாமே சுவையா இருக்கு நாகா அருமையா கொண்டுபோறீங்க, வாழ்த்துக்கள்...வளர்க...
சிவா
From: arunvani on Fri Feb 3 7:28:18 2006. [Full View]

aanaa wrote:

ts wrote:

AC tells Kumaraguru ...thodarum

thank u

prompt upate is going on here by TS
donot know why people screeming yet?

almost at the end..?

It is not screaming. They want to know the story desperately. I know how I wait for thursday desperately.

From: arunvani on Fri Feb 3 8:54:43 2006.

arunvani wrote:

aanaa wrote:

AC tells Kumaraguru ...thodarum

thank u

prompt upate is going on here by TS
donot know why people screeming yet?

almost at the end..?

It is not screaming. They want to know the story desperately. I know how I wait for thursday desperately.

sorry it is wednesday

From: ram.kbs on Fri Feb 3 8:57:53 2006.

arunvani wrote:

aanaa wrote:

AC tells Kumaraguru ...thodarum

thank u

prompt upate is going on here by TS
donot know why people screeming yet?

almost at the end..?

It is not screaming. They want to know the story desperately. I know how I wait for thursday desperately.

u r right!!! Infact sent a mail to siva, coz couldn't control myself. But he asked the same to ts.

mr.ts, are you in europe?

mr.naga,
small request,
why don't you/team do it(in your page or here) for us?

cr-a book-a release pannara mathiri ethavathu idea irukka?

From: ssanjinika on Fri Feb 3 9:37:06 2006. [Full View]

Naaga wrote:

Sure.......it will, TS. Contrary to the belief that the serial is going to
end.......I think it is just warming up.......(So much to say and tie-up....the fun part!!!)

Oh Naga..was hoping it would end soon coz we'r likely to shift houses in about 2 months and Im not sure if we can put up a dish at our new apartment .I would then haveto just read the updates instead of watching the episodes.
Any chance of you releasing the DVD of this serial?

From: cres on Fri Feb 3 10:37:59 2006.

detective wrote:

sangeetha_me wrote:

if it is the Editor and group that kidnapped Aarthi and tested the drug on her, they would know, the testing would exactly stop where it has stopped now..unless they get the 12th naadi ! So would it not have easier for them, to get only Somy's nadi and give only that left out part of the cure to Tulasi and try it? Why go through the whole experiment with Aarthi when they know the Tulasi has already done it to herself? Wouldnt they know, it would just be redundant?

Maybe the 12th ingredient will not work separately. Maybe it will work ONLY if given alongwith the other 11. So giving that to Thulasi NOW will not work. They needed another person to start afresh and Aarthi was the chosen one.

But you have a good point. If thulasi already has the first 11 ingredients, why hunt for those 11 naadis?

We have asked many such questions. It may not be possible for Naga to answer these at this point. But he better be prepared with an answer 'cos we aint gonna give up!!!

What Thulasi and Arthi had as medication was something to Arrest the spread of Aids and not a cure. The nadis speak of a total cure. This is the reason why the nadis are being sought. May be Thulasi's condition is a side effect of the medication and Arthi is heading the same way.

The group knows that they have the wong somu's nadi. May be there are a couple of "Anbarasu" nadis in them. Hence the medicine is not complete. They didnt want to kill Arthi and hence give her the same medication that Thulasi had...

Maybe when the group found that, they had the wrong somu's nadi , they would have injected Arthi with the same medication that Thulasi had taken knowing that it would arrest the spread of aids .

From: ssanjinika on Fri Feb 3 10:57:15 2006. [Full View]

Detective :
You are assuming that the 12 million people affected with Aids are meant to live!! It could be that Tulasi is supposed to die from AIDS and hence her nadi dosent contain the names of the 12 people.The editor inorder to prevent that from happening at all costs is bent on finding a way to cure her and stumbles upon arti's nadi.Now heres where Im getting a bit confused.Does the group have arti's oushita gandam?I remember Thillai rajan having some trouble getting her oushidta gandam.I didnt watch this serial from the begining and so am a bit confused as to how they start this entire process of collecting the nadis.

From: detective on Fri Feb 3 11:11:04 2006.

sangeetha_me wrote:

So would it not have easier for them, to get only Somy's nadi and give only that left out part of the cure to Tulasi and try it? Why go through the whole experiment with Aarthi when they know the Tulasi has already done it to herself? Wouldnt they know, it would just be redundant?

Another point to refute your theory. Look at this situation.

Lets assume there are 12 ingredients. Mugilan's medicinal suvadis have only 11 of them and one (chi.ra) is missing. Thulasi tries a concoction of this 11 and gets partial cure. Thulasi and Editor try other means and come across naadi josiyam. The cure is written in the naadis of 12 different people, say. (Don't ask me why would anybody with a humanitarian thought come up with this stupid idea? Why can't they write everything in just one suvadi?)

Now, Thulasi has 11, but the 12th one is written in the suvadi of one of the 12 people. But who is the one? They wouldn't know unless they read the naadi. Their bad luck, the first 11 naadis they got, corresponded with the 11 they already had, and the 12th one still eludes them.

Do you buy this?

BTW, are we giving ideas to Naga through this forum on how to move the story?? I hope not.

From: detective on Fri Feb 3 11:26:03 2006.

ssanjinika wrote:

Detective :You are assuming that the 12 million people affected with Aids are meant to live!! It could be that Tulasi is supposed to die from AIDS and hence her nadi dosent contain the names of the 12 people

I got your point. Maybe only a few are destined to live. If thulasi is not destined to live, her naadi will not have those names. I understand now....

Embarassed

From: sangeetha_me on Fri Feb 3 12:22:19 2006.

detective wrote:

sangeetha_me wrote:

So would it not have easier for them, to get only Somy's nadi and give only that left out part of the cure to Tulasi and try it? Why go through the whole experiment with Aarthi when they know the Tulasi has already done it to herself? Wouldnt they know, it would just be redundant?

Another point to refute your theory. Look at this situation.

Now, Thulasi has 11, but the 12th one is written in the suvadi of one of the 12 people. But who is the one? They wouldn't know unless they read the naadi. Their bad luck, the first 11 naadis they got, corresponded with the 11 they already had, and the 12th one still eludes them.

Do you buy this?

Hi Detective..yupp..ur point makes sense. Like you said, may be Kumaraguru and Thulasi stumble upon Naadi josiyam when they are out to find a cure for AIDS. Remember one of those first episodes where GOD shows his Naadi Josiyam book and asks Somu to even keep it for reference if need be. Was there any mention about it after that?

And there was one episode where Ishraf goes to Natesa Sharma's house first to kill him. This is b4 he meet Dr Mohan and the scarman. Then when Ishraf calls up the guy who called him first to tell him that Natesa Sharma will be back at home after a week, this guy at the other end, says "No..dont kill him and all". Ishraf says this guys who initially asked him to kill Natesa Sharma, is someone called Balu. Does he belong to the other group which is involved in the killing? Did Somu follow up on that?

And when AC has arrested everyone incl padma, kandan etc what happ to the scarman (saviri muthu). Isnt he the main connection? How did they leave him out? Does Saviri muthu work for both the groups? Coz unlike the others involved like Mangai etc, he is not really indebted to GOD.

And is the Vaidhyar Mangai referring to actually Mukilan? Periyavar and Vaidhyar are referred to separately. So Mukilan must be the Vaidhyar..and periyavar is not GOD..shud be someone else..

From: sangeetha_me on Fri Feb 3 12:30:35 2006. [Full View]

And no true Naadi Josiyar would give away the suvadis. And most of all, they will not even see the suvadis of dead people. The how did the group that kidnapped Aarthi get those suvadis? That too..all the 11 that they have are original ones !! Agathiya Naadis...huh? So must be some very reliable group or true group of Agathiya Naadi Josiyars who are giving away those Naadis..but for what reason? They dont go after money..do they?

And Kadhir says, the suvadis were auctioned in 4 lots..3 went to Vaideeswaran kovil..and the other one shud be in Chennai (or was it Chidambaram? I missed that part of it?) and should be with some grand child of the person who took it in Auction. That could be Akash we are talking about..but then he has ONLY ONE savadi with him..not one whole lot ! So are we talking about Mani here? Could his family be the one that took the other lot?

Did the killers get the 11 nadis from Vaideeshwaran Kovil? Could it be that guy then..the one Poosamuthu refers to..when Thilla Rajan goes to him..that dark guy (agasthiya naadi josiyar)..who tells Thillai Rajan that they have all of Aarthi's suvadis except Oushada Kaandam and that must have gone to their branch? Could he be the one who is supplying the suvadis to the killer group or could the culprit be Mani?
From: sangeetha_me on Fri Feb 3 12:38:03 2006. [Full View]

And what I thought was..may be..the killer group is collecting the Nadis, but I dont think they are having it read by the Naadi Josiyars itself..may be Vaidhyar is reading it for them..

The lettering in Siddha olai suvadis will not be the same as the one in Naadi Josiya chuvadis. Coz Kadhir says, that Thulasi's suvadi (which is actually Mukilan's) are only 150 yrs old. So if Mukilan is indeed the Vaidhyar..he too, like others will not know how to read the medication specified in the 11 suvadis. Right? So someone defintely knows to read it..may be Periyavar..??

Which are the periyavars who would possible know...??

Not the editor..not Somu's dad..not Mukilan..not Thillai Rajan.. then who? Parameshwara Dikshitar? what abt Akash's dad?
From: sangeetha_me on Fri Feb 3 12:44:52 2006. [Full View]

And that beggar outside Akash's house writes (yenudam moovar..kadaisiyil Agathiyan). Somu is working backwards..starting from little Somu to Pazhani.. So then remember..the 1st episode and the interview with that Mathematician beggar..? At the end of the interview abt re-birth, when Somu asks the beggar what his name his..he says "Sri Sri Sri Agasthiya Maha Munivar-nu pottuko "

Could there be a connection between the two? Would not that be the last one..i mean it is actually the beginning..but since Somu is working backwards...wouldnt that be the last...KADAISIYIL AGATHIYAN..

Or will Somu get to meet him..only after this??
From: sunmaster on Fri Feb 3 12:52:26 2006. [Full View]

The reason for killing people and getting the nadi is simple.
Its patient rights. After the experience with Pazani Thulasi doesnt want the same thing to happen to 11 other people. so she or Vishnu or both decide to get rid of all the others and get their suvadis so that nobody who is 60 years younger or elder caomes and reads them and claims share in the spoils. As far as we know from first day Thulasi is acting the way she does and its after meeting with pazani. So we need to know how long Somu knows editor and thulasi and for what time she is like this. And in some other nadi it might have been written that somu will point all the 11 guys to them. thats why editor wanted somu to go after nadi josiyam
From: sunmaster on Fri Feb 3 12:56:24 2006. [Full View]

So its Thulasi and/or vishnu who is behind it. I bet the story will now make somu a little smarter and with the help of akash try to bring culprit to justice and free editor.

Naga,reg yoour signature, Chidambaram is Akasha sthalam. so "air" is may not be the right word as Thiruvanai koil is Vayu sthalam. so we might consider changing the spelling to "Chydambara Raksyam".
From: sunmaster on Fri Feb 3 12:59:43 2006. [Full View]

Or remember what happened in serial "Rahasiyam". Due to its popularity the actual story (which came in Ananda vikatan) which was supposed to end in the village itself was extended to the city. So the same might be happening for this thing to.
But I am really thrilled at the prospect of Somu teaming up with akash.

From: Naaga on Fri Feb 3 13:42:44 2006.

sunmaster wrote:

Naga,reg yoour signature, Chidambaram is Akasha sthalam. so "air" is may not be the right word as Thiruvanai koil is Vayu sthalam. so we might consider changing the spelling to "Chydambara Raksyam".

Sunmaster, correction...........its Kalahasthi...... which is the vayu sthalam........Thiruvanaikaval is theyu or water sthalam..........

Besides..........delivered by "air" = telecast.........i used air in this sense........

From: detective on Fri Feb 3 13:44:16 2006.

sangeetha_me wrote:

Does Saviri muthu work for both the groups? Coz unlike the others involved like Mangai etc, he is not really indebted to GOD.

And is the Vaidhyar Mangai referring to actually Mukilan? Periyavar and Vaidhyar are referred to separately. So Mukilan must be the Vaidhyar..and periyavar is not GOD..shud be someone else..

You never know. Maybe Savarimuthu is also indebted to God.

Yes, I too think Mugilan is the vaidhiyar. But if editor is not periyavar, and Mangai is in touch with periyavar, who is she actually working for? Is she working for periyavar without editor's knowledge?

From: bpbp on Fri Feb 3 15:29:13 2006.

ssanjinika wrote:

Naaga wrote:

Sure.......it will, TS. Contrary to the belief that the serial is going to
end.......I think it is just warming up.......(So much to say and tie-up....the fun part!!!)

Oh Naga..was hoping it would end soon coz we'r likely to shift houses in about 2 months and Im not sure if we can put up a dish at our new apartment Sad

Sad

.I would then haveto just read the updates instead of watching the episodes.
Any chance of you releasing the DVD of this serial?

Before going to a new apartment, go to dishnetwork.com and find out which direction the dish has to be faced in your city. For me (San Diego,CA), the dish has to be facing directly South or South East. Then pick up the apartment which suits ur need. We changed our apartment recently only for suntv!

From: ssanjinika on Fri Feb 3 15:51:09 2006. [Full View]

bpbp,
Wer moving to Jersey cant afford to be choosy about dish here.Too many people not enough apartments which is convienent,not that expensive and allows us to put up a dish out here.We found a townhome in an apartment complex which has a patio on the 2nd floor too.Im hoping that we can set up the dish there .

From: pamrang on Fri Feb 3 19:15:06 2006.

sangeetha_me wrote:

And Kadhir says, the suvadis were auctioned in 4 lots..3 went to Vaideeswaran kovil..and the other one shud be in Chennai (or was it Chidambaram? I missed that part of it?) and should be with some grand child of the person who took it in Auction. That could be Akash we are talking about..but then he has ONLY ONE savadi with him..not one whole lot ! So are we talking about Mani here? Could his family be the one that took the other lot?

Who is this Kadhir? (Sorry, I don't watch the serial so, am not very familiar with each and every one of the characters)

From: pamrang on Fri Feb 3 19:16:15 2006.

sangeetha_me wrote:

And Kadhir says, the suvadis were auctioned in 4 lots..3 went to Vaideeswaran kovil..and the other one shud be in Chennai (or was it Chidambaram? I missed that part of it?) and should be with some grand child of the person who took it in Auction. That could be Akash we are talking about..but then he has ONLY ONE savadi with him..not one whole lot ! So are we talking about Mani here? Could his family be the one that took the other lot?

Who is this Kadhir? Am asking this because Naga said something in one of his posts about Kadhir (Sorry, I don't watch the serial so, am not very familiar with each and every one of the characters)

From: sunmaster on Fri Feb 3 22:28:53 2006.

Naaga wrote:

sunmaster wrote:

Naga,reg yoour signature, Chidambaram is Akasha sthalam. so "air" is may not be the right word as Thiruvanai koil is Vayu sthalam. so we might consider changing the spelling to "Chydambara Raksyam".

Sunmaster, correction...........its Kalahasthi...... which is the vayu sthalam........Thiruvanaikaval is theyu or water sthalam..........

Besides..........delivered by "air" = telecast.........i used air in this sense........

I stand corrected..

From: sangeetha_me on Sat Feb 4 9:49:27 2006. [Full View]

Quote:

pamrang wrote:

Who is this Kadhir? (Sorry, I don't watch the serial so, am not very familiar with each and every one of the characters)

Kadhir is the guy from the Archaelogical dept who is researching on the olai chuvadis now for the AC. He was the one who confirmed that the suvadis that was acquired from the place in which Aarthi was kept, were 2000 yrs old. Now he is in Tanjore to find out who has the suvadis..the 4th lot.
From: jaiganes on Sat Feb 4 23:14:40 2006. [Full View]

One small thing to note.
When AC says that circumstantial evidence points to Kumaraguru and the evidences being so obvious, he is arresting Kumaraguru, Kumaraguru says "Suspect the Obvious" and "Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction". I think we have more surprises in store.

From: detective on Sun Feb 5 2:02:38 2006.

pamrang wrote:

Who is this Kadhir? Am asking this because Naga said something in one of his posts about Kadhir (Sorry, I don't watch the serial so, am not very familiar with each and every one of the characters)

Just to refresh memories: TS opined that one cannot get one's suvadi from a naadi joasiyar (you get only a transcript), and Naga said, "Think Kadhir..."

Kadhir, as rightly pointed out, is the archeology guy. He says that 75% of the suvadis from sarasvadhi mahaal went to Vaidheesvaran koavil. 25% went to a "stand alone" guy. That guy is not bound by the covenents of a naadi joasiyar. He will be willing to part with the original suvadi if need be.

So, everybody who thinks you cannot get the actual suvadi, think again. If the suvadi is with that independant guy, you can get it with enough convincing.

From: sangeetha_me on Sun Feb 5 16:02:34 2006.

detective wrote:

Kadhir, as rightly pointed out, is the archeology guy. He says that 75% of the suvadis from sarasvadhi mahaal went to Vaidheesvaran koavil. 25% went to a "stand alone" guy. That guy is not bound by the covenents of a naadi joasiyar. He will be willing to part with the original suvadi if need be.

yes detective..I agree with you. That would make perfect sense. BUt he might not have had all the 11 suvadis with him..may be that is why after killing Ponnamabalm, the killers looted all his suvadis too.

And I was just thinking..remember when Somu takes the Tamil Vaadhiyaar's suvadi to Ponnambalam. He says he will not read a dead man's suvadi. Then Somu gets the regai of the beggar and takes it to Anbarasu. Anbarasu says that he must have been a Maths teacher. Which could have been possible..even Somu feels so. But then Anbarasu also rightly says, that the beggar must be dead by then and declines to read it. How can Anbarasu give out that fact so correctly? Surely he himself has confirmed to the fact that all his suvadis are a fake and he himself wrote most of them..so how could he have stated the fate of the beggar from the savadi if is not an original one? Or did he already know that the beggar is going to be dead? Coz GOD is the only one to whom Somu tells that he has gotten the regai of a beggar..

From: sangeetha_me on Sun Feb 5 16:30:17 2006.

detective wrote:

Kadhir, as rightly pointed out, is the archeology guy. He says that 75% of the suvadis from sarasvadhi mahaal went to Vaidheesvaran koavil. 25% went to a "stand alone" guy. That guy is not bound by the covenents of a naadi joasiyar. He will be willing to part with the original suvadi if need be.

And, to add to that, the 'stand alone guy' might have given out some of the suvadis that he would have had..and may be the remaining ones..could have been from Ponnambalam. The guys who killed him robbed all the suvadis that he had. And we already know that Ponnambalam had Tamil Vaadhiyaar's original suvadi. So may be his lot would have had some more too.. !

From: sangeetha_me on Sun Feb 5 16:39:16 2006. [Full View]

But then I still do not understand the point behind killing those 11 guys..look at this..Ponnambalam had Tamil Vaadhiyaar's suvadi and may be of some other too, which we do not know for sure. So the killer group killed him..fine..and they robbed his suvadis too..

So if Tamil Vaadhiyaar were alive, and he had ever thought of checking his naadi josiyam, he would have gone to one of those many Naadi josiyars..and if they are genuine ones, they would have all said that they do not have his suvadi. And even if they fake something like Anbarasu, Tamil Vaadhiyar would have taken the explanation and been contented with it. He would have never ever known that someone had robbed his suvadi or that it might have contained the cure for AIDS.

The same can be extended to many others who were killed..like Ponnambalam himself...he for one would have never checked his suvadi at all (even if someone had given him Rs 1 crore...as he himself says..as it goes against what his guru nadhar had taught him).

Someone mentioned sometime back, that all the killings happened for Patent Rights..that may be the case for someone like Palani who had already gotten to read their original Nadis..but what abt people like Ponnambalam and others who might not have read it and who dont intend to read in the future too?

From: sunmaster on Mon Feb 6 14:02:26 2006.

sangeetha_me wrote:

But then I still do not understand the point behind killing those 11 guys..look at this..Ponnambalam had Tamil Vaadhiyaar's suvadi and may be of some other too, which we do not know for sure. So the killer group killed him..fine..and they robbed his suvadis too..

So if Tamil Vaadhiyaar were alive, and he had ever thought of checking his naadi josiyam, he would have gone to one of those many Naadi josiyars..and if they are genuine ones, they would have all said that they do not have his suvadi. And even if they fake something like Anbarasu, Tamil Vaadhiyar would have taken the explanation and been contented with it. He would have never ever known that someone had robbed his suvadi or that it might have contained the cure for AIDS.

The same can be extended to many others who were killed..like Ponnambalam himself...he for one would have never checked his suvadi at all (even if someone had given him Rs 1 crore...as he himself says..as it goes against what his guru nadhar had taught him).

Someone mentioned sometime back, that all the killings happened for Patent Rights..that may be the case for someone like Palani who had already gotten to read their original Nadis..but what abt people like Ponnambalam and others who might not have read it and who dont intend to read in the future too?

Thats the risk the killers dont want to take. Remembers we are talking of cure of AIDS. Its big money and they dont want the source or its origin at large. So the simple solution is to kill them. It is also possible that the villain is not yet intorduced too.

From: ram.kbs on Tue Feb 7 1:36:20 2006.

sunmaster wrote:

sangeetha_me wrote:

But then I still do not understand the point behind killing those 11 guys..look at this..Ponnambalam had Tamil Vaadhiyaar's suvadi and may be of some other too, which we do not know for sure. So the killer group killed him..fine..and they robbed his suvadis too..

So if Tamil Vaadhiyaar were alive, and he had ever thought of checking his naadi josiyam, he would have gone to one of those many Naadi josiyars..and if they are genuine ones, they would have all said that they do not have his suvadi. And even if they fake something like Anbarasu, Tamil Vaadhiyar would have taken the explanation and been contented with it. He would have never ever known that someone had robbed his suvadi or that it might have contained the cure for AIDS.

The same can be extended to many others who were killed..like Ponnambalam himself...he for one would have never checked his suvadi at all (even if someone had given him Rs 1 crore...as he himself says..as it goes against what his guru nadhar had taught him).

Someone mentioned sometime back, that all the killings happened for Patent Rights..that may be the case for someone like Palani who had already gotten to read their original Nadis..but what abt people like Ponnambalam and others who might not have read it and who dont intend to read in the future too?

Thats the risk the killers dont want to take. Remembers we are talking of cure of AIDS. Its big money and they dont want the source or its origin at large. So the simple solution is to kill them. It is also possible that the villain is not yet intorduced too.

might be introduced.
like rajendran - vidathu karupu, vaithiyar - marma desam.
naga eppavumae background process romba nalla pannuvaru. foreground la zombie process mathiri theriyum, but athu zombie a irukaathu.
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naga, asked one question, haven't get anything from you.
book-a release pannuvinghala?
answer varavarikkum ithu than ennoda footer msg!!!
vidai thaeriyamaal naan
vidai yodu nee
vidaipaerumoo innaikum palam....(HUB)
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From: sreeramtcs on Tue Feb 7 3:36:09 2006.

ram.kbs wrote:

sunmaster wrote:

sangeetha_me wrote:

But then I still do not understand the point behind killing those 11 guys..look at this..Ponnambalam had Tamil Vaadhiyaar's suvadi and may be of some other too, which we do not know for sure. So the killer group killed him..fine..and they robbed his suvadis too..

So if Tamil Vaadhiyaar were alive, and he had ever thought of checking his naadi josiyam, he would have gone to one of those many Naadi josiyars..and if they are genuine ones, they would have all said that they do not have his suvadi. And even if they fake something like Anbarasu, Tamil Vaadhiyar would have taken the explanation and been contented with it. He would have never ever known that someone had robbed his suvadi or that it might have contained the cure for AIDS.

The same can be extended to many others who were killed..like Ponnambalam himself...he for one would have never checked his suvadi at all (even if someone had given him Rs 1 crore...as he himself says..as it goes against what his guru nadhar had taught him).

Someone mentioned sometime back, that all the killings happened for Patent Rights..that may be the case for someone like Palani who had already gotten to read their original Nadis..but what abt people like Ponnambalam and others who might not have read it and who dont intend to read in the future too?

Thats the risk the killers dont want to take. Remembers we are talking of cure of AIDS. Its big money and they dont want the source or its origin at large. So the simple solution is to kill them. It is also possible that the villain is not yet intorduced too.

might be introduced.
like rajendran - vidathu karupu, vaithiyar - marma desam.
naga eppavumae background process romba nalla pannuvaru. foreground la zombie process mathiri theriyum, but athu zombie a irukaathu.

I dont think the killing is for Patent rights because its meaningles thing to kill a small kid(somu) who is mentally challenged for patent rights.

Further i dont think any other new villain will be introduced because when the AC arrests Kadavul, he says that this is not a story for a serial where the suspected guy finally becomes innocent and someone who is not suspected for any of the murders becomes the villain. And the kadavul also accepts this. I dont think these lines were just like that included by naga. I think naga includes these lines to tell the viewers that the ending of this serial is very simple and no complex twists are going to occur in this serial unlike his previous serials(like marmadesam etc).

From: Naaga on Tue Feb 7 6:18:48 2006.

ram.kbs wrote:

----------------------------------------------------------
naga, asked one question, haven't get anything from you.
book-a release pannuvinghala?
answer varavarikkum ithu than ennoda footer msg!!!
vidai thaeriyamaal naan
vidai yodu nee
vidaipaerumoo innaikum palam....(HUB)
----------------------------------------------------------

I am writing this story, for the screen only......And, a compilation of the scenes and dialogues might not make an interesting reading.......

So, if in future, i sit down to write the story of CR in a literary format, i assure you, ram.kbs, that you will be the first to hear about it.

From: shivadev on Tue Feb 7 15:58:42 2006. [Full View]

Thanks Naaga,
thanks for the info regarding the book issue, yes, for visual things we can get the things interesting but when you sit for a good reading, it is difficult to make the reader to get satisfy. Like five point someone of chetan bagath, it is nothing but the life of three college students in IIT for that four years in their B.Tech days, how he narated that in 400+ pages matters, infact he is also an IITian from the same IIT Delhi, like that, we too expect the same from you while you are publishing it as a book Naaga, can you do that?
anticipating your good book soon on my hands,
cheers,
shiv

From: aanaa on Tue Feb 7 22:26:20 2006.

Naaga wrote:

I am writing this story, for the screen only......And, a compilation of the scenes and dialogues might not make an interesting reading.......

So, if in future, i sit down to write the story of CR in a literary format, i assure you, ram.kbs, that you will be the first to hear about it.

Books

entirely different from TV show

Direction is different from writting
writting skills?

From: ram.kbs on Wed Feb 8 8:25:25 2006. [Full View]

he worked with Indra Soundararajan. So he can...
From: sangeetha_me on Wed Feb 8 21:47:30 2006. [Full View]

no updates for y'day's epdisode as yet? Iam waiting !
From: Poppoy on Wed Feb 8 22:40:51 2006. [Full View]

TS Paramadham!!! Ungal seevayai naan meegavum paratugireen.... ovvoru varamum tavaramal kadayai ingu megaa sirapana vadivamaipil tarugireereee.. mikka nandri.. ingu yengaluku sun tv connection illamal marama desam miss sigiroomee yendra yeekatai teerthu vaika ungali indha forum irukeeradhu.. naan veeru yendha oru serialali um ivvalavu aavalaga parthadhu illai.. yeen veeru yeendha serialai um parkavoo follow pannavoo veerumbavum illai... avvaigali taram avvaru...
Naga virku tara maana oru serial tandhamiku mikka nadri.. kudos to you. ungal indhaa maradesam toodarai naana migavum paratugireen...
Looking forward to participate in the tread more actively!!!!

Poppoy
From: sreeramtcs on Thu Feb 9 1:19:29 2006. [Full View]

As am simply wasting my time in company I decided to spend time useful by sending u this update. This is my first try and plz forgive me for any mistakes. Also any suggestions and corrections are welcomed.

Kadavul tells AC that he went in search of Palani but couldn�t find him because Palani ran away from his place as he had a fight with water Tanker lorry people. Mean while Tulasi was confident that her father will find Palani and thus the missing muligais for the medicine. She submits her report to the lab where she does her doctorate. But the laboratory rejects her report as they did not believe in Sidha vaithiyam. So she decides to inject AIDS virus into herself and test the medicine with her. She writes a post to the internet(HUB) about her decision. The editor read this post and was shocked. He kept his name as Kadavul and started writing post in HUB asking her not to do so. But she was so confident and tried the AIDS virus and medicine on her. The editor says that he was responsible for her stupid and adamant behaviors as he was not able to show his love and affection as a dad to Thulasi. Thulasi used to cut her hand and punish herself whenever she was in need of fathers love.

Now Thulasi returns to her father with AIDS. One day Palani comes to meet editor. Palani does not know that the editor was actually in search of him. He sees Thulasi and could not recognize her. Seeing this the editor understands that Thulasi and Palani have never met before. Thulasi leaves the editors room in the office to give privacy for Palani and editor to discuss. Palani shows editor his nadi josiya olayai and tells that it contains the cure of AIDS and the medicine is described in 11 other peoples nadi. Editor acts as if he is hearing this for the first time though he has read these details over internet. Palani says that agathiyar has said in his nadi that he has included the cure for AIDS just like that in these 12 peoples nadi. Editor asks Palani how he got his nadi. Palani says that he got it from Tamil vadiyar TamilNambi who he used to meet for discussing tamil literature. Once TamilNambi has taken his thumb print and read his nadi which stated his past so cleanly. From this only Palani came to know that his nadi contains AIDS cure. He then asked the nadi but TamilNambi refused to give. Then Palani accepts to marry Tamil Nambi�s daughter though he is not interested in her, just to get his nadi. Editor asks Palani y Palani came to meet him. Palani replies that he wanted Editor to arrange someone secretly to read this nadi for Palani. And that he does not want Tamil Nambi to be used for this purpose. (He doesn�t say the reason for this). Also he wants editor to set up a lab for the research to find a medicine and allow him to use the Panai house muligais for the research. He tells that he came to know about editors panai house from mugilan whom he accidentally met in Tamil Nambis house. He wants editor to advertise the medicine once if it is found successful. Also he wants editor to arrage for patent rights for the medicine which will be held by palani. Palani also says a 80% - 20% deal with editor. Since editor acts to be disinterested he comes to 70 � 30.

The editor now takes the Nadi and locks it in his almery. Seeing this palani is shocked and asks why editor is doing this. Editor says that he wants to get this nadi to its actual owner and wont help Palani to find the medicine since a medicine for AIDS should be made public and should not be held by a single person. Palani trys to take his nadi away but editor uses his office boy to push him out of the office. Palani comes out says that editor has cheated him and he will right about it in news paper.

Editor then leaves to panai to see mugilan. He gives mugilan this nadi and tells him that it contains the remaining muligai names for the medicine. The muligai name is actually spread in 11 other nadis which is with TamilNambi. Since mugilan knows tamilnambi he says that he can easily get it from him. But editor asks mugilan not to tell tamil nimbi about this and he will somehow get the nadi from him. With this the episode ends.

Finally i did some useful work sitting in my company.
From: crazy on Thu Feb 9 7:07:15 2006. [Full View]

hallo everybody,
iam stuck with the episode where akaash meet somu in chennai, where he ask the little boy to follow somu and where akaash wants somu to get his ollai, and just where arthi arrives home.
Could anybody plz resume what happened just after that! plz!

From: ts on Thu Feb 9 8:37:22 2006.

crazy wrote:

hallo everybody,
iam stuck with the episode where akaash meet somu in chennai, where he ask the little boy to follow somu and where akaash wants somu to get his ollai, and just where arthi arrives home.
Could anybody plz resume what happened just after that! plz!

Go back a few pages and put your reading glasses on

Rolling Eyes

From: aanaa on Thu Feb 9 9:24:47 2006. [Full View]

sreeramtcs wrote:

Finally i did some useful work sitting in my company.

keep up

thank u for the udate
From: sangeetha_me on Thu Feb 9 10:47:12 2006. [Full View]

Thanks for the update..good work
From: vekala on Thu Feb 9 11:19:12 2006. [Full View]

Good job sreeramtcs!

U just missed the last scene....

Next day the editor goes early to office since it's an issue day.
He comes to know abt the accident of Palani....and Padma shows him the photos taken in the accident spot! Editor asks him abt Somu. Padma replies that Somu will be coming late to office.
Editor fears that since he had an arguement with Palani last...this death wld create unnecessary commotion. So he asks Padma to develop the photos without the victims head! Padma says if then it wldn't be published! Editor doesn't give him any reasons...but just urges Padma to do this favour for him. Padma leaves the office!

Thodarum....
From: sreeramtcs on Thu Feb 9 12:42:31 2006. [Full View]

Oh ya thank u vekala, i missed it. Since am doing it for the first time i was over excited. Actually i dint want to mis even a single line from the episode in my update but i missed a whole scene. I will try to correct it if i continue doing this job.

From: detective on Thu Feb 9 15:08:52 2006.

Minor additions....

sreeramtcs wrote:

Palani replies that he wanted Editor to arrange someone secretly to read this nadi for Palani. And that he does not want Tamil Nambi to be used for this purpose. (He doesn�t say the reason for this).

It is not like the topic never comes up. The editor does ask why shouldn't Tamil Nambi know about this. Palani says that is how it is (adhu appadiththaan).

sreeramtcs wrote:

Palani also says a 80% - 20% deal with editor. Since editor acts to be disinterested he comes to 70 � 30. The editor now takes the Nadi and locks it in his almery

After Palani explains his plans, the editor first says that it is selfish to try and make money out of something that would cure millions. Researchers have sacrificied many things while inventing drugs. Palani says even he is sacrificing his married life as he does not really like Tamil Nambi's daughter. He also says everyone in this world is selfish. The editor then admits that his own selfish interests took the better of him and decides to amukkify the naadi.

From: laddu on Thu Feb 9 18:22:29 2006. [Full View]

looks like he didn't set up palani to be killed so far....awaiting for more...
From: sreeramtcs on Fri Feb 10 0:48:10 2006. [Full View]

I think the editor has set up for the killing of Tamil vadiyar Tamil Nambi. Even the AC arrests him for this killing and kidnapping of Arthi. But the AC has no proof that he was involved with the muder of the other 10. So i dont think editor is responsible for it. In the episodes to come the editor will accept the kidnapping of Arthi also.

From: arunvani on Fri Feb 10 5:56:21 2006.

sreeramtcs wrote:

I think the editor has set up for the killing of Tamil vadiyar Tamil Nambi. Even the AC arrests him for this killing and kidnapping of Arthi. But the AC has no proof that he was involved with the muder of the other 10. So i dont think editor is responsible for it. In the episodes to come the editor will accept the kidnapping of Arthi also.

I dont think editor is involved in the kidnapping Arthi. Otherwise why Kandan ( Police) informs editor about arthi's return to home.

From: arunvani on Fri Feb 10 6:07:05 2006. [Full View]

Dumb samiyar wries " Naangal moovar, pirahu Agathiyan" Can anybody ex[;ain who are these three.
Is this relate to Lord Siva, Brahma & Vishnu. Agathiyan is next to God and He is the founder of Tamil( Right?).
Last one pichakarar who came to Paatti house at Chidambaram says while arguing with Mani that he also sits in Thinnai and mani also sits in thinnai. I believe only Lord siva sits in thinnai.
The vettai medicine can only be given only by Agathiyan , who is master of Siddha medicines??.
Mystery about Mathematical genius PichakkaraR to be solved yet.

I hope we get answers for all this mysteries.
From: detective on Fri Feb 10 16:55:07 2006. [Full View]

Palani's idea seems conceited. He knows the stakes are high in discovering a drug for AIDS and his suvadi might contain a cure. Why would he give this to total stranger?

One might argue that all is not lost as he has the transcript. Then why does he create a scence?

Tamil Nambi wrote the entire transcript. Wasn't he thrilled to see there was a cure for AIDS?

Palani's maruthuva gaandam should have said that though his naadi contains a cure to AIDS, he will not live to see it happen. Actually, he is destined to die very soon. Right? Palani obviously believes in the naadi. Why wasn't he worried about his immediate future, or the absence of it, and started striking a deal with the editor?
From: vekala on Fri Feb 10 17:38:45 2006. [Full View]

sreeramtcs wrote:

Editor asks Palani how he got his nadi. Palani says that he got it from Tamil vadiyar TamilNambi who he used to meet for discussing tamil literature.

Minor additions here....
When the editor asked how he got the suvadi...Palani tells that he is interested in Tamil literature and happened to meet Tamil Nambi who had lot of suvadi's. Tamil Nambi's birth name is actually Sundaram ( i am not sure of the name...anyone pls correct!) but later he changed it to Tamil Nambi.
It seems when the suvadi's where auctioned from Saraswathi Mahal... a big lot was obtained by the ancestors of Tamil Nambi. When Palani came to know that they were actually Naadi suvadi's he asked Tamil Nambi to check whether his suvadi was there. Tamil Nambi then took his thumb print asked him several questions and finally found his suvadi!
From: detective on Fri Feb 10 17:49:11 2006. [Full View]

vekala wrote:

when the suvadi's where auctioned from Saraswathi Mahal... a big lot was obtained by the ancestors of Tamil Nambi

That is a very important information. Thanks for reminding us.

Tamil Nambi's previous name was Sangaran, BTW.....
From: vekala on Fri Feb 10 18:01:29 2006. [Full View]

detective wrote:

Palani's idea seems conceited. He knows the stakes are high in discovering a drug for AIDS and his suvadi might contain a cure. Why would he give this to total stranger?

The editor did pose a similar question to Palani...infact he keeps asking again and again.. "Why me?"...and Palani explains that
1. He has heard abt the Herbs in his farm house thru' Mukilan - So he thinks that the herbs reqd for the medicine can be grown there.
2. He might also help in getting an AIDS patient for the treatment and that can be done secretly in the farm house.
3. Since Kumaraguru is an editor- He might have wide links in all areas and so might look into the coverage and patent rights, etc.

Though it looks valid ....even i am puzzled ...that if Palani had thought so much on the pros for choosing the editor as his partner...i think he forgot to ponder over the cons in selecting the editor...what if the editor who is so powerful cheat him after knowing the facts (Infact thatz what happened!) Sure he seems silly!

From: vekala on Fri Feb 10 18:08:02 2006.

detective wrote:

vekala wrote:

when the suvadi's where auctioned from Saraswathi Mahal... a big lot was obtained by the ancestors of Tamil Nambi

That is a very important information. Thanks for reminding us.

Indeed i felt the same too ...since we had been discussing on who wld have acquired those suvadi's....
So now we know...

detective wrote:

[Tamil Nambi's previous name was Sangaran, BTW.....

Thanks for the correction....

From: detective on Fri Feb 10 18:36:48 2006.

vekala wrote:

The editor did pose a similar question to Palani...infact he keeps asking again and again.. "Why me?"...and Palani explains that
1. He has heard abt the Herbs in his farm house thru' Mukilan - So he thinks that the herbs reqd for the medicine can be grown there.
2. He might also help in getting an AIDS patient for the treatment and that can be done secretly in the farm house.
3. Since Kumaraguru is an editor- He might have wide links in all areas and so might look into the coverage and patent rights, etc.

I am not questioning why he chose the editor; I am just asking why would he give the actual suvadi to him. The editor cannot read it; his brain does not have an inbuilt radiocarbon dating machine to authenticate it; the transcript is readily available........

Anyway, the editor takes it from him against his wishes and let's leave it there. I guess we should not worry how he gets it.

From: gmax2k5 on Fri Feb 10 23:01:15 2006. [Full View]

do you guys believe that Editor(GOD) is the person behind all this murders, although he is saying he is responsible for everything? I dont think this is the end, Akash has not discusses somu nadi with him, akash has been out of the picture for a few episodes now. So, I think there is more to this, unless Naga is trying to finish it up quickly by going with the obvious. I think Editor is just making up stories as it goes, like the movie usual suspects. Palani doesn't seem like the type of guy that editor described, when you look at him, he looks like a decent guy, but in editor's story, he portrays him as a selfish guy, so I have my doubts on his story to the AC. Hopefully, chidambar ragasiyam moves a little faster, and enough of the flashbacks, and come to the present.
From: aanaa on Sat Feb 11 17:15:26 2006. [Full View]

NAGA!!!

Are u playing any role in CR
- like KSR - smaal part at least?
Just want to see the powerful man
From: crazy on Sun Feb 12 5:12:17 2006. [Full View]

TS thank u for ur advice, I PUT MY READING GLASSES ON and went a lot of pages to get in.
I have been missing a lot of episode. Iam waiting for someone to upload Chidambara Ragasiyam on the internett.

By the way, people have anyone of u ever seen ur nadi jyodhidam?
Ever since I started to watch Chidambara Ragasiyam I started to believe in it! unfortunately I haven't seen my nadi yet:

From: ts on Mon Feb 13 5:10:00 2006.

detective wrote:

Palani's idea seems conceited. He knows the stakes are high in discovering a drug for AIDS and his suvadi might contain a cure. Why would he give this to total stranger?

One might argue that all is not lost as he has the transcript. Then why does he create a scence?

Must be that he had "borrowed" that chuvadi from Tamil nambi. May be it is not his chuvadi but belongs to some other palani. Remember, Palani read only the general kandam which says that the rahasiyam is in the nadis of 12 people. He might not have the "maruthuva" kandam translated yet.

Tamil Nambi wrote the entire transcript. Wasn't he thrilled to see there was a cure for AIDS?

"borrowed" within quotes again. Must be that Tamil nambi doesnt even know about this yet.

Palani's maruthuva gaandam should have said that though his naadi contains a cure to AIDS, he will not live to see it happen. Actually, he is destined to die very soon. Right? Palani obviously believes in the naadi. Why wasn't he worried about his immediate future, or the absence of it, and started striking a deal with the editor?

Again, this could be some other Palani's kattu. Our Palani went to Tamilnambi to seek his nadi but tamil nambi read him some other palani's nadi by mistake (he is not a professional nadi josiyar). Our palani realises the secret written in the nadi and gets it from Tamilnambi. May be TamilNambi knows about it too. They could have had some sort of an understanding between them, which palani agreed to on face value and is double crossing him when he met the editor.

From: ram.kbs on Mon Feb 13 9:08:27 2006. [Full View]

crazy,
chinna advice, if you don't know anything about it, don't trust. What this serial is, is a story about nadi josiyum. So my question is, The next serial would be based on kili josiyum, can you sit and see kili josiyum?
crazy, don't be crazy.
From: crazy on Mon Feb 13 10:29:20 2006. [Full View]

ram.kbs,
I may say that u r right about the kili josiyam ,but I believe in siddharhal, thats why I trust in nadi jyodhidam!
I may sound crazy, but people believe in different things!

From: detective on Mon Feb 13 11:18:25 2006.

May be it is not his chuvadi but belongs to some other palani. Remember, Palani read only the general kandam which says that the rahasiyam is in the nadis of 12 people. He might not have the "maruthuva" kandam translated yet.

Nope, I don't agree with either of those assumptions. Palani says that the naadi was darn accurate about his past. So there is no reason to think it was someone else's. Also, he explicitly says the the list of 12 was found in maruthuva gaandam. So that should have said about his longevity too.

Of course, if we assume the editor is lying then we can forget my questions. I hope we don't have to sit through another flashback, that too replete with lies, for the next few weeks.

The serial goes in cycles. The killings start with Palani and end with Little Somu. Hero Somu's discoveries take the reverse path. No the editor's defense again starts with Palani. In about 2-3 months, he will finish saying he employed the scarman to take all the naadi's, but did not kill anybody. AC will start his investigation with Little Somu and take the reverse route to reach the truth in another 2-3 months.

By that time we (at least I) will be exhausted.....

From: ts on Mon Feb 13 12:19:56 2006.

Nope, I don't agree with either of those assumptions. Palani says that the naadi was darn accurate about his past. So there is no reason to think it was someone else's. Also, he explicitly says the the list of 12 was found in maruthuva gaandam. So that should have said about his longevity too.

...and you want to belive that Palani is a honest guy ???

Of course, if we assume the editor is lying then we can forget my questions. I hope we don't have to sit through another flashback, that too replete with lies, for the next few weeks.

The editor could be lying as well.

Remember, in the flash back where Manoharan (office boy) narrates about what happened when palani visited the editor, there was no mention of palani screaming "This is my nadi". All that was said was that palani was asking the editor to give "it" to him. Last week though, when editor narrated it, we heard palani scream "it is my nadi" outside the editor's office...

[quote]The serial goes in cycles. The killings start with Palani and end with Little Somu. Hero Somu's discoveries take the reverse path. No the editor's defense again starts with Palani. In about 2-3 months, he will finish saying he employed the scarman to take all the naadi's, but did not kill anybody. AC will start his investigation with Little Somu and take the reverse route to reach the truth in another 2-3 months.[quote]

You may be right. This may be the case. We may have to go thru different point of views (like in the movie andha naal ?)

By that time we (at least I) will be exhausted.....

Smile

Smile

Smile

From: detective on Mon Feb 13 12:28:37 2006.

...and you want to belive that Palani is a honest guy ???

We cannot say anything about Palani because we have never "seen" him. Everything we know about him (except his accident) is a narrated version. So it depends on who is true/right or lying/wrong.

Remember, in the flash back where Manoharan (office boy) narrates about what happened when palani visited the editor, there was no mention of palani screaming "This is my nadi". All that was said was that palani was asking the editor to give "it" to him. Last week though, when editor narrated it, we heard palani scream "it is my nadi" outside the editor's office...

I noticed that. It is either a directional error, or one of them is wrong. Note I am using the word 'wrong' here instead of 'lying', because Manohar has no reason to lie. He probably was incorrect when he was narrating what he saw. He is portrayed as an absent minded guy too.

From: bpbp on Tue Feb 14 0:05:17 2006.

detective wrote:

...and you want to belive that Palani is a honest guy ???

We cannot say anything about Palani because we have never "seen" him. Everything we know about him (except his accident) is a narrated version. So it depends on who is true/right or lying/wrong.

Remember, in the flash back where Manoharan (office boy) narrates about what happened when palani visited the editor, there was no mention of palani screaming "This is my nadi". All that was said was that palani was asking the editor to give "it" to him. Last week though, when editor narrated it, we heard palani scream "it is my nadi" outside the editor's office...

I noticed that. It is either a directional error, or one of them is wrong. Note I am using the word 'wrong' here instead of 'lying', because Manohar has no reason to lie. He probably was incorrect when he was narrating what he saw. He is portrayed as an absent minded guy too.

Yeah that's correct. Not everyone can remember all the past incidents exactly as it is...it's practical...and I accept it...

From: detective on Tue Feb 14 14:12:45 2006. [Full View]

vekala wrote:

Editor fears that since he had an arguement with Palani last...this death wld create unnecessary commotion. So he asks Padma to develop the photos without the victims head!

I had another question on this.

By hiding the victim's head in the story published by his magazine, the editor is trying to avoid unnecessary speculations by his staff. Right? So does he assume that none of his staff would read any other magazine?? Because all the other magazine's will show the victim with the head and the story will be out!!!

So is this another character that is a moron (the list is really long now), or is the editor just plain bluffing??
From: ssanjinika on Tue Feb 14 15:06:28 2006. [Full View]

How many magazines print pictures of people killed in accidents ?I assumed that "Neidhal" printed the pictures,coz one of the reporters(Somu) and a photographer(Prabha) were on the scene coincidently.
From: kamban on Thu Feb 16 1:22:36 2006. [Full View]

Hi all,
I whould like to appreciate the music director REHAN. his performances is excellent.
Naga has to thank Rehan for delivering such a master pice music to his serial
PS : I am big fan of Rehan.
-Kamban
From: ts on Thu Feb 16 5:48:34 2006. [Full View]

Editor is continuing with his confession. He says that he sent a messenger to Tamilnambi for negotiation but Tamilnambi refused any money and told them that the chuvadis are his family propery and will end up in some museum after his time. Editor says that Somu has the knack and ability to get anything done and hence he had asked Somu to do an interview with Tamilnambi on U Ve Sa Iyer. Somu was not very much interested in the project and editor feared that he would not go to interview Tamilnambi. Hence he wanted to negotiate with Tamilnambi himself and had set out to go to his house but changed his mind in the last minute and went to the farm.

At the farm, he has a discussion with mukilan and mukilan tells him that he will ask Tamilnambi on the editor's behalf and being a friend, Tamilnambi wouldnt refuse. Mukilan asks the car driver (matha travels) to stay at the farm and goes to Tamilnambi's house with the editor. He knocks the door but there is no response. He asks the editor to drive up to the street at the back and come by the back entrance and walks thru the pathway besides the house. Editor drives up as directed and Mukilan takes him to the back door. They knock the door again and find it open. Inside, Tamilnambi is on the floor and blood everywhere. Editor,allergic to seeing blood, almost collapses but gains control and asks mukilan to check up on tamilnambi. Mukilan tells him that Tamilnambi is dead and he can see it from Tamilnambi's eyes. Editor tries to call the police and mukilan stops him. He tells the editor that there is nobody in Tamilnambi's family and it seems like a murder. The police will sweep the area and take away all the chuvadis with them and it will be impossible for them to get it back. He suggests they take the chuvadis with them and editor agrees. They pack the chuvadis in a towel and mukilan carries it to the car. Meanwhile they hear someone knocking the door and it is somu. They sneak out of the house before Somu could see them. They arrive at the farm and the editor asks mukilan to take the chuvadis to TK Pharma immediately and lock them up as they might not be safe at the farm.

Just after mukilan leaves, padma calls editor and tells him that the police had arrested Somu. He calls Savari and asks for another car and goes to tamilnambi's house again.

He tells them that palani had left his nadi notebook as well when he came to meet the editor and the second name in the list was Sankaran. Editor thought that it could as well be tamilnambi. He wanted proof and hence had asked Somu to get his fingerprint after his death. Somu had taken it to Ponnambalam to check it but had an altercation with him. He says that he realised that it was the same ponnambalam whose name is third in the list. He couldnt believe his eyes and was wondering if what he sees is real. To confirm the facts, he wanted to get Ponnambalam's finger print but could not send somu. Hence he sought the help of another friend.

AC interrupts and asks who the friend was. He asks the editor if this is the scarman who was seen at all the crime scenes. Editor tells them that the friend has nothing to do with anything. Just them AC gets a phone call and one of his men tells him that there is someone who has come to meet him. The person is none other than the scarman. Editor jumps from his seat and screams at thim and asks him why he was there. The person is none other than Savarimuthu. (atleast one assumption of fellow hubbers is correct). He shows his scar to the AC and tells him that Editor is innocent. He says that they did not kill anybody but only thing they did was kidnapping Arthi and it was him who did it. AC asks his men to take him to a different room and tells them that he will interrogate him seperately.

Just then Somu's dad comes there and Editor asks him if he managed to get a bail. Natarajan says that the case was strong and hence he could not get bail for any of them. Somu sees his dad and runs to him. He shouts at his dad for helping the criminals. Natarajan tries to pacify somu but somu is very furious. AC asks them to take their domestic quarrel to their home. Somu, irked and furious, leaves the place. Natarajan asks Editor if he has confessed. Editor tells him that he is in the process of doing it. Natarajan advises him to tell the AC everything, which would help them later.....thodarum...
From: vekala on Thu Feb 16 10:47:55 2006. [Full View]

I don't understand why the editor is trying to hide Savarimuthu's name while confessing...and again he also shouts at him for coming to the Police station(??... though the place doesn't look like one!)
Anyhow he is on the verge of confessing everything....then why this kinda reaction?!!!

Something really fishy!!!! Have to wait and see...
From: detective on Thu Feb 16 12:51:28 2006. [Full View]

vekala wrote:

I don't understand why the editor is trying to hide Savarimuthu's name while confessing...

Well, he may just be trying to minimize the number of people who will be behind bars in this elaborate scam.

So far, the editor claims to have a noble motive behind his acts - to cure an AIDS patient (though it is his daughter). He has not physically harmed anyone either. Let us see how he justifies injecting the AIDS virus into Aarthi.
From: aanaa on Thu Feb 16 15:22:17 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Editor is continuing with his confession.
..thodarum...

thank u
From: sangeetha_me on Thu Feb 16 18:17:14 2006. [Full View]

Thanks for the update TS
From: bpbp on Fri Feb 17 20:30:40 2006. [Full View]

So, now it's clear that 2 groups are involved...one being Editor & Co.

Editor & Co is having all the chuvadis and just trying to match the fingerprints and the chuvadis....so they are typically in search of fingerprints.

Another group killed all the people in the olai chuvadi...The question is...how are they killing those people in proper order as in the chuvadi? What are they making out by just killing?

So, is there anyone else having the same set of chuvadis?
From: arunvani on Sat Feb 18 13:04:16 2006. [Full View]

Other killer group may be thulasi and periyavar group which is not known to Editor and thulasi is acting like this to avoid being known to anyone. I feel she does not have that disease and is acting like she has.

Now one question is how Somu's chuvadi has gone to Great grand father(GGF) of akash and who wrote the word Akash on that. How is GGF is related to tAMIL NAMBI?
Somebody knew long long ago( Agathiyar) that somu's chuvadi will reach Akash's GGF and finally akash.

From: vekala on Sat Feb 18 17:03:17 2006.

bpbp wrote:

Another group killed all the people in the olai chuvadi...The question is...how are they killing those people in proper order as in the chuvadi? What are they making out by just killing?

So, is there anyone else having the same set of chuvadis?

As far as we know till now that Palani is the only guy who knew abt the 11 people in the chuvadi...then editor knew..and he is having the chuvadi now. Then how come the killer group too know abt that!!!!!
Not only is this puzzling but also...how come the killer group kill persons whose thumb print is taken...or going to be taken!
Why don't they kill them earlier?(.....if in case they knew the order of the persons)
How do they know the moves of editor & co to take the thumb print?
Does then the editor group is watched 24/7?
B'cos the scar man assigns the job to some one else...and that person takes his own time to get the thumb print. Then how come the murder happens at around the same time when the thumb print is taken?
All too puzzling and entangled...let's wait and see how Naga untangles all the knots!!!

From: crazy on Sun Feb 19 5:14:25 2006. [Full View]

this is interesting, I wonder what happened to akaash meanwhile and who could be the next group?
From: svasu_ani on Wed Feb 22 12:50:11 2006. [Full View]

Waiting for the update....
From: ts on Thu Feb 23 6:12:47 2006. [Full View]

...coming up in 5 mts...
From: ts on Thu Feb 23 7:03:44 2006. [Full View]

You guessed it right.. thats how long an "indian" 5 mts is

Now for the update...

Somu comes home and his mother tells him that his dad had called and told her that he was coming. He asks his mum why dad was helping the criminals. Mum tells him that she doesnt know anything about it and asks him to wash up and get ready for lunch. Somu is in the dinner table and just then his dad comes back home. He sees somu and tries to slip thtu him. Somu stops him and asks him why he was helping the criminals. natarajan tells him that he was just doing his job. Somu is not convinced. He asks his dad to explain and natarajan tells him that Editor did not kill anybody. Somu asks him to explain the deaths and the kidnapping. Natarajan asks him to have lunch and tells him that they will discuss about it later. Somu gets very angry and tells them that he could smell blood in the food...blood of innocent people and that he is ashamed of eating this food for so long. He tells them that he will never return and gets out of the house in his bike. His mum pleads to his dad to stop him. Natarajan tells her that he knows very well as to where he is up to.

Somu goes to Arthi's house and Tea Samiyar is at the gate. He asks Somu if he had a fight with his parents over the "fruit" like lord Muruga. He tells Somu that they know that he is here and will come for him and change him into what they want him to be. Somu goes inside and Sivakami welcomes him. Somu tells Sivakami that he found the criminals and the police have them now. He tells her that it was the editor, someone who he thought was his godfather. He exclaims that if his biological father was no good, why blame the godfather. Sivakami is shocked to hear that and asks him about Natarajan. He tells her that "Mr Natarajan" was their counsel and that he walked out of the house in protest. He tells her that he is an orphan now and asks her if he can stay with them. Sivakami tries to calm him down and they hear a car.

Natarajan and wife arrive there and somu shouts at them. He asks them if they will not let him live in peace. Mum asks him to come home. Sivakami confronts Nandini (somu's mum) and takes her to Arthi's room. She asks her if they can justify what they did to Arthi. She asks Natarajan if he can justify it. Natarajan tells her that it was not the editor who did the murders and the kidnap and it was someone near him who conspired the entire thing. Somu asks him to tell everything he knows. Natarajan tells them that He was the one who finalised the deal about TK Pharma so that Thulasi can continue her research. He says that he did not know at that time that the editor's people had kidnapped Arthi. He came to know about it later from the editor who pleaded not guilty to him and had asked for his help. He says that the editor had transferred all the property belonging to Neithal into Somu's name and wanted somu to succeed him. He says that the editor had told him that he has no part in the killings and had asked him to keep quiet about Arthi as it would affect the research if otherwise. He says that he had no other choice but to go with the editor, the damage to arthi having been done already. The only way ouyt was to finish the research so that Arthi can be back. Sivakami intervenes and tells them that she doesnt believe in the chuvadis and the so called cure written in them. Somu asks them to leave and tells them to forget about him. Natarajan tells nandini that somu will find peace in Arthis house and will come home.

AC is interviewing the suspects one by one. AC asks Savari to tell him about the murders. Savari tells him that they did not kill anyone. He just helped the editor in getting the finger prints. He tells AC that he came out of his house in nagercoil with the dream of making it to the silver screen. He was stranded when he ran out of money and started thieving around. One day the editor caught him stealing from his house, took pity on him and kept him in the farm. He says that the editor arranged for him to act in a movie but that didnt work out and then had setup a travel agency for him and help him settle in life. AC tells him that like the others, he was paying his debt back by killing innocent people.

Mangai tells him that she was instrumental in setting up TK pharma and was helping Thulasi by performing some tests. AC asks her to detail. She says that they were testing Tissues and the effects of certain chemicals on them... chemicals being poisons. She tells AC that Thulasi's original research was about a poison and its use in medicine and they were supporting her. He asks about the kidnapping of Arthi.

Padma tells him that it was his idea. He was worried that the research would not complete and got the idea of getting Arthi into it. It was a mistake he did in an impulse he says. AC asks him when did he know about the chuvadi and other details. Padma tells him that he got suspicious about it after Natesa Sharma's death and the editor wanted to talk to him one day.

That day, editor tells padma that he and Mukilan had stolen the chuvadis from Tamilnambi. Editor tells him about the 12 chuvadis but didnt know who the 12 people were. Luckily for them, the names of the ones that somu had visited fit in the list. Editor says that they had taken the fingerprints from them and and that there was something common in their chuvadis. It was the line about the medicine in their maruthuva kandam. Unfortunately, editor says, all of them died...thodarum...
From: aanaa on Thu Feb 23 9:18:15 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Editor is continuing with his confession.
.....thodarum...

thank u for the update

moving slowly
From: ssanjinika on Thu Feb 23 10:25:12 2006. [Full View]

Yes the serial seems to be moving too slowly.There dosent seem to be an ending in sight and Im really getting the feeling that its being streched for the sake of...

From: pamrang on Thu Feb 23 11:52:24 2006.

Somu goes to Arthi's house and Tea Samiyar is at the gate. He asks Somu if he had a fight with his parents over the "fruit" like lord Muruga. He tells Somu that they know that he is here and will come for him and change him into what they want him to be. ...

A little change, ts, if I may - Tea saamiyar says "appanukke upadesam seithavanai kandu piduchitta - aanaal avan unnai avana maadiri maathaama vida maataan. Ippa, yellorum unnai thedi varuvanga" - something like that - so, he means, I think that Kumaruguru will change Somu into someone like himself. Maybe this could mean - a journalist - this kind of makes sense in the light of Kumaruguru having left Neidhal to Somu, does it not?

From: nacdaman on Thu Feb 23 13:23:41 2006. [Full View]

With the advertisements , beginning and ending credits the actual time for one episode is aroung 17 minutes. I would be better if SUn TV makes it an hr long and moves it to weekend. It becoming a pain to wait for a week and watch only 17 minutes of good action.

Naaga ..Do you have a control over any of this?? Or is it totally upto Sun tv??

Also what is your profile?? are you a film institue student? age group???

Thanks

Nac
From: bingleguy on Fri Feb 24 3:13:10 2006. [Full View]

Greetings everybody ....

Needless to say, ideologies are my favourites.

Naga is a gifted man with great orientation. I had been a great admirer of his works right from marmadesam, but i ve recently adjudicated that i shld share my thoughts,the content of my congnition towards his works.

To begin with, I wish Naga a great fortune n future ..... n ofcourse Thanks to all the active contributors to this forum

Expect more !

Rgds
An Avid Naga fan
Vasanth

From: Naaga on Fri Feb 24 4:45:34 2006.

nacdaman wrote:

With the advertisements , beginning and ending credits the actual time for one episode is aroung 17 minutes. I would be better if SUn TV makes it an hr long and moves it to weekend. It becoming a pain to wait for a week and watch only 17 minutes of good action.

Correction Nac.......its minimum 18 minutes of original footage......(+ 30 second).......beyond which the scissors fall on the titles....and during the festive seasons the titles go even if i give 16 minutes.

nacdaman wrote:

Naaga ..Do you have a control over any of this?? Or is it totally upto Sun tv??

Regarding the slot time and timing.......absolutely no say from the producer or the directors' side......it IS totally upto Sun.

And this slot has been well known for this kind of serials......and generally recognised as my slot in the TV-industry circles.....

And about making it an hour long.........mmmm.......as i take around 2 days to shoot one half-hour episode.......and i've already committed to do another one hour 3D serial.............i dunno

Rolling Eyes

.................may be,if YOU can spare a couple of days from YOUR week..........

nacdaman wrote:

Also what is your profile?? are you a film institue student? age group???

My profile.......Naga (M/43) passed out as a cameraman from FTII-Pune (83-86)........worked as cam-man till 95.......turned director with Nambinal Nambungal.........Marmadesam in 96......

From: bingleguy on Fri Feb 24 5:18:46 2006. [Full View]

Hi Naga,

Interesting to know that you ve been indulged in the making of a 3D serial !

Can u share some info reg the same ....

n how do u 3D on the small screen ?

Rgds
An Avid Naga Fan
Vasanth

From: ts on Fri Feb 24 5:27:01 2006.

Naaga wrote:

And about making it an hour long.........mmmm.......as i take around 2 days to shoot one half-hour episode.......and I�ve already committed to do another one hour 3D serial.............i dunno Rolling Eyes

Rolling Eyes

.................may be,if YOU can spare a couple of days from YOUR week..........

3D as in 3 Dimensional? for Tele?? Didn�t know anyone did a 3D TV after the fall of NikkyTasha

Could you please give us more info on this (only if you could... we understand your contractual obligations).
...and is this for SunTV ??? (so many question marks !)

One thing that you say and can be proud of is about the 7:30 slot on Wednesday. No Matter who does a serial in this slot, it will always be remembered as Naaga's slot

Smile

From: arunvani on Fri Feb 24 5:44:41 2006. [Full View]

TS, A small correction. It is 8.30 slot at India. For us in Dubai, it is 700 pm slot.
From: KanthaMoorthy on Fri Feb 24 7:14:22 2006. [Full View]

hi ts,

Thanks for the update.
From: ts on Fri Feb 24 7:27:34 2006. [Full View]

arunvani wrote:

TS, A small correction. It is 8.30 slot at India. For us in Dubai, it is 700 pm slot.

7:30pm for us .. just in the middle of the world

From: aanaa on Fri Feb 24 9:29:31 2006.

Naaga wrote:

My profile.......Naga (M/43) passed out as a cameraman from FTII-Pune (83-86)........worked as cam-man till 95.......turned director with Nambinal Nambungal.........Marmadesam in 96......

keep it up

congrats!!

the photo

Sad

(((

PS
why do they chagne the actress(?) halfway in the serials

From: aanaa on Fri Feb 24 9:30:51 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

arunvani wrote:

TS, A small correction. It is 8.30 slot at India. For us in Dubai, it is 700 pm slot.

7:30pm for us .. just in the middle of the world

9.30 pm here - EST = GMT +5
From: nacdaman on Fri Feb 24 12:43:59 2006. [Full View]

Naga

First i would not mind coming and helping with you on the serials ..... that would be so much better than kuppa kotting in this place,.......Let me know when and where and i can pack my bags and move out of this land.....

Secondly , thanks for sharing your profile.

Wanted to share a story with you ....about the power of TV Serial Creators

Joss Whedon of Buffy the Vampire Slayer fame started a tv series here called Firefly which is about a space ship (set in a distant future). The tv series developed a cult following . When the tv company decided to give the series a boot, the fans began to grow and started requesting for the series. In the end the creators owing to the fan pressure decided to make a movie (serenity) with the same start casts that of the tv series.

Joss is a superstar here and i pretty much rate you right up there....

The 20 dollars a month i spend for sun tv is for one and only reason which is a "RAHAYSAM"

Nac

Narasimman for family ..nachee for friends.....nac for white skinners
From: crazy on Fri Feb 24 13:19:39 2006. [Full View]

HI Naga,
congrats and keep it up! how did the idea of making a serial about nadi jodhidam come to ur mind? I feel interesting!
thank u againg for ur wonderful chidambara ragasiyam!
From: crazy on Fri Feb 24 13:20:24 2006. [Full View]

thank u ts for ur updates!
From: joshindas on Sun Feb 26 9:01:36 2006. [Full View]

Naga,

1) can we see ur foto.
2) please tell us , about " script" ...
is it like u made a completed story first and now u r shooting OR story of chidambara rahasyam is evolving week by week?

...i wonder TS,Detective, and 1000s of brains like us around the world are trying to decode this "mystery"..... is it out come of a single brain-naga-?

Joshin Das
From: Naaga on Sun Feb 26 12:09:03 2006. [Full View]

Yes TS........3D is as in 3rd dimensional........

bingleguy.........it is done using anaglyph technology......there is a load of anaglyph images floating in the cyber-space.....just that you need to procure those glasses (from a toy-shop maybe)needed for viewing them.

aanaa.......the actors are changed because of various reasons.....non-availability, non-viability, non-liability, non-ability........but they all fit into the first.....availability

nachee..........thanx.........n i'll keep your offer in mind.

joshindas .........my photo is here........
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Image%28134%29.jpg
A story is like a journey.......anyone who had written a story would vouch for this.........when we start we generally know the destination and our starting point is given.......there is one direct route to the destination we would have charted out..........but then we can take a detour to visit an interesting place as long as we know that 1)we are not having a set-back in our forward movement.......and 2) where we would land on our charted path, when we return.

From: aanaa on Sun Feb 26 19:56:52 2006.

Naaga wrote:

aanaa.......the actors are changed because of various reasons.....non-availability, non-viability, non-liability, non-ability........but they all fit into the first.....availability

thank u for the clarifications

joshindas .........my photo is here........
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Image%28134%29.jpg

I have seen this photo before .

Is it really ?

From: bingleguy on Mon Feb 27 4:31:42 2006. [Full View]

Hi Naga !

Amazing.... Anaglyph on TV .... Very interesting ...

What i knew abt anaglyph is that it requires the simple device of complementary colored lenses for each eye.The greatest thing about anaglyphs is it makes viewing 3D almost foolproof for everybody, whereas autostereograms: 3D images requiring no device ("freeviewing") may take practice, and still remain elusive to a great many people. The downside of anaglyphs is a substantial loss of color rendering, i guess.....

I guess, it would take a Great Deal of time to make such a trial on TV. You are really giving a breakthrough to today's Television. We are expecting more of you ! Kudos ... Keep up the excellent work ....

Is it again for a Thriller ? is that 3D gonna come as a serial or a short film ?
From: bingleguy on Mon Feb 27 7:43:56 2006. [Full View]

Hi Naga ...

Just a trial -> to give one more anagram for the title

A diagram by a charisma (Chidambara Ragasiyam)
by Graced to Rain (Director Naga)
From: ts on Mon Feb 27 9:07:56 2006. [Full View]

Here is a nice article from Hindu that has a picture of Naaga as well.

Thanks Naga for clarifying regarding the 3D Serial. Is it in Tamil (SunTV i hope) or another language - as indicated in the article above?

From: aanaa on Mon Feb 27 9:28:25 2006.

Here is a nice article from Hindu that has a picture of Naaga as well.

Thanks Naga for clarifying regarding the 3D Serial. Is it in Tamil (SunTV i hope) or another language - as indicated in the article above?

thank u ts for high lighting NAgA's effort

hats off NAGA!!!

From: vekala on Mon Feb 27 11:32:16 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Here is a nice article from Hindu that has a picture of Naaga as well.

Thanks TS for sharing this!

Naga: U sure are a "Guru" (as mentioned in the article) and u do look like one too
U are definitely a trend setter....with such great thrillers and now for the 3D serial. When all others are still beating around the bush!!
Hats off to u, for such great innovations! Wish u all the very best.
From: AJ on Mon Feb 27 17:44:18 2006. [Full View]

Hello all,
I've been a regular reader of this forum for a while now. Great job everyone.
A special thanks to TS for the wonderful updates. I personally know of a few people who do not have access to SUN TV and thereby greatly benefit from these regular updates. Congrats on a job well done.
Mr. Naga, your sheer ingenuity never ceases to amaze your viewers. Your active participation in this forum and your prompt responses to questions/comments is awe inspiring. You are truly a class apart. Kudos to you sir! Keep up the good work. Just out of curiosity, is there another serial in the immediate offing, after CR? I would hate to see someone else take over the coveted Wednesday night time slot.
And last but not least, the seasoned/new hubbers are doing a great job keeping this forum alive and kicking, with their thought provoking ideas and discussions. Thankyou all!
From: nandhunaren on Mon Feb 27 20:56:26 2006. [Full View]

i was not really surprised to learn from mr. naaga himself that 'nambinal nambungal' was his brain child, although i didn't know this all along. i remember watching this show when i was in 8th grade and thinking that the show was way ahead of its time. he had all kinds of interesting stuff on it and off the top of my head, "telepathy", "imaginary limbs" are a couple. i guess i was sucked into naaga's shows right from the beginning. once again it was a story about a reporter (kavithalaya krishnan) who goes researching about 'freaky real life experiences' of people to write for his article. are we looking at a trend here? (most of his shows have been like this; a skeptic sets off to unearth the mystery only to get sucked into it) i am not complaining though. anything that tickles your brain is gotta be a good show.
From: bingleguy on Mon Feb 27 23:31:38 2006. [Full View]

Brilliant finding TS,( btw i wish to know ur real name too)... No wonder ur thread has been the most sought and most visited in this forum ! Keep the good work, n any help, do let us know .....

The article in THE HINDU was really exiting ! Our GURU Naga, is being celebrated as "The pioneer of serial BOOM on tamil satellite channels". We, as his avid fans are brimming with happiness.

Looking forward for a very corking 3D serial .. Guess the first of its kind ????

GURU (Ofcourse who else, Naga),
Is this 3D, the first of its kind on TV ? Is this too based on occult and unknown phenomena ? Who do u wish to be ur audience?
From: bingleguy on Tue Feb 28 4:42:49 2006. [Full View]

Hi All.....

As for the lot of supernatural thrillers n Naga's new venture - the 3D serial .... i thought of adding a suggestion !

It would be really excellent to bring in Bianural Sound(3D Sound) for such kind of serials....That would really make the person who is watching the serial, go together with the movie. If the Binaural sound could be heard thru a headphone, it can be heard thru TV speakers, i believe ... Ofcourse, our Guru would have known this better ...

For those who are new to Binaural Sound, it is the 3 Dimensional Sound, which can make the voice be heard at different angles n at different paces ... For instance, u would really feel like being in that very scene. The audio for instance, like if a person talks, u can identify from where is he talking, from which direction s he talking, is he near u or far away, or talking from below orm above ... All these would be clearly differentiated in Bianural Sound ...

This 3 D sound in TV will definitely be a Revolution !
From: nacdaman on Tue Feb 28 13:58:09 2006. [Full View]

Nambinal Nambungal came along with this other serial in DD called honee anhonee ..Very similar concept.

Mr. Naaga did you work under Mr. Balachander??

Also do you know your wednesday time slot is going against one of the most watched TV series here in the U.S "LOST" . Lost(i do not know if this comes in india) is about a group of people who survive a plane crash only to find themselves stranded in an island where they encounter all sortsa para normal activities. Also all of them are connected in the past one way or another. In all the episode there is a set of scenes from the current even and then a set of scenes from the past is shown.

A la marma desam where the b&w scenes from the past is shown..

How interesting....

From: Naaga on Tue Feb 28 15:55:09 2006.

bingleguy wrote:

What i knew abt anaglyph is that it requires the simple device of complementary colored lenses for each eye.The greatest thing about anaglyphs is it makes viewing 3D almost foolproof for everybody, whereas autostereograms: 3D images requiring no device ("freeviewing") may take practice, and still remain elusive to a great many people. The downside of anaglyphs is a substantial loss of color rendering, i guess.....

All this applies to print media.......n in moving pictures such as cinema & TV, the clash is between anaglyph and polarised light viewing.

bingleguy wrote:

Is it again for a Thriller ? is that 3D gonna come as a serial or a short film ?

Its going to be a fantasy serial......

Is it in Tamil (SunTV i hope) or another language

It is going to be primarily shot in Hindi, and dubbed in various languages.....n most probably it will be on Jaya for Tamizh.

Just out of curiosity, is there another serial in the immediate offing, after CR?

Jus working on it........at the moment in Bangalore after a trip to Belur, Halebid and Somnathpur.....the next serial will be on Indian architecture and Buddhism.

bingleguy wrote:

It would be really excellent to bring in Bianural Sound(3D Sound) for such kind of serials....

That's right, bingleguy......but none of our satellite channels are yet transmitting sound in stereo or surround........and not many of our TV sets are stereo enabled.

nacdaman wrote:

Nambinal Nambungal came along with this other serial in DD called honee anhonee ..Very similar concept.

Bulls eye! not just 'similar concept', both are the same, because NN started as a remake of Honee Anhonee........but we used just six of the stories from the original...and Mr.S.Ramakrishnan dug up some and cooked up some to make up the rest.

nacdaman wrote:

Mr. Naaga did you work under Mr. Balachander??

Yes, i shot his Kaialavu Manasu as his cameraman.

From: ssanjinika on Tue Feb 28 16:45:53 2006. [Full View]

*Phew*
Thats quite an impressive profile you have there Mr.Naaga.Though I am not familiar with quite a few of your serials I have watched Rudrai Veenai,Marma Desam and another serial from Min Bimbangal (had I think a story called Swarna Regai staring a detective called Anwar).Actually come to think of it I am not sure if it was infact your serial.Anyways just wanted to say that these serials are exceedingly wellmade and Ive enjoyed watching them like nobodys business .CR seems to be following in your previous serials footsteps though I must say I am ready for your next offering .

P.S Saw your picture..somehow Id imagined a person in his early 30s probably coz your ideas are so very modern.
From: vekala on Tue Feb 28 17:04:42 2006. [Full View]

ssanjinika wrote:

*Phew*
P.S Saw your picture..somehow Id imagined a person in his early 30s probably coz your ideas are so very modern.

Me tooo....
From: AJ on Tue Feb 28 17:16:30 2006. [Full View]

AJ wrote:

Just out of curiosity, is there another serial in the immediate offing, after CR?

Jus working on it........at the moment in Bangalore after a trip to Belur, Halebid and Somnathpur.....the next serial will be on Indian architecture and Buddhism.

Thanks for the response Mr. Naga. Wish you all the very best in all your endeavours. Looking forward to more such gems from you in the future.

From: bingleguy on Wed Mar 1 0:16:03 2006.

Naaga wrote:

All this applies to print media.......n in moving pictures such as cinema & TV, the clash is between anaglyph and polarised light viewing.

True, what i was talking abt was absolutely on print ! Could u briefly explain what is Polarised light viewing, is that our normal view of the TV?

Naaga wrote:

Its going to be a fantasy serial......

Smile

We expect more new things from this ....

Naaga wrote:

It is going to be primarily shot in Hindi, and dubbed in various languages.....n most probably it will be on Jaya for Tamizh.

Oh my ! Tis gonna be dubbed??? Am still not comfortable with serials getting dubbed, n from Hindi to Tamil -> i get remebered of those serials like Shanti .... -> I do not know, how many like that ? Anyways, guess your cinematography shld overcome this barrier !

Naaga wrote:

Jus working on it........at the moment in Bangalore after a trip to Belur, Halebid and Somnathpur.....the next serial will be on Indian architecture and Buddhism.

Marvellous, Welcome to Bangalore - The Garden City of India... Hoping to get a darshan of my guru - the incredible Naga !

Naaga wrote:

That's right, bingleguy......but none of our satellite channels are yet transmitting sound in stereo or surround........and not many of our TV sets are stereo enabled.

The primary expectation would be from the Satellite channels... coz we are having a lot of HDTVs n many of our TV sets, nowadays, are stereo enabled.....

Naaga wrote:

Bulls eye! not just 'similar concept', both are the same, because NN started as a remake of Honee Anhonee........but we used just six of the stories from the original...and Mr.S.Ramakrishnan dug up some and cooked up some to make up the rest.

I really wish, the 3D serial also would get re-made instead of dubbing .....

Naaga wrote:

Yes, i shot his Kaialavu Manasu as his cameraman.

Thats simply wonderful ! KB is a gem in our Industry, who made a revolution in the Indian Cinema and ofcourse, did a stir to TV to prove that he can achieve heights anywhere ! Rayil Payanangalil was his first TV debut, i guess .... Kaiyalavu Manasu is an awesome work by KB ... Kudos to ur skills handling KBs Camera !

ssanjinika wrote:

*Phew*

P.S Saw your picture..somehow Id imagined a person in his early 30s Embarassed

Embarassed

probably coz your ideas are so very modern.

Sanjinika n Vekala,
Guru proved that thoughts are beyond age ! Btw i didnt have the slightest idea abt his age ! Man, the very look proved him Maven !

From: ts on Wed Mar 1 5:26:33 2006. [Full View]

vekala wrote:

ssanjinika wrote:

*Phew*
P.S Saw your picture..somehow Id imagined a person in his early 30s probably coz your ideas are so very modern.

Me tooo....

I must say i knew that . This is one reason for me to post the link
From: ts on Wed Mar 1 5:30:17 2006. [Full View]

Naaga wrote:

Jus working on it........at the moment in Bangalore after a trip to Belur, Halebid and Somnathpur.....the next serial will be on Indian architecture and Buddhism.

Wow... Looking forward to that.
From: bingleguy on Wed Mar 1 7:51:03 2006. [Full View]

Hurrah !

Wednesday is here ... Naga time....

TS, i may not be able to see CR today ... so depending solely on ur updates .... Please yaar ... dont deceive us ....

An Avid Naga Fan
Vasanth

From: ts on Wed Mar 1 9:05:56 2006.

bingleguy wrote:

Hurrah !

Wednesday is here ... Naga time....

TS, i may not be able to see CR today ... so depending solely on ur updates .... Please yaar ... dont deceive us ....

An Avid Naga Fan
Vasanth

You don't have to worry. You will have an update as long as SunTV Telecasts it. Over the weeks, we have worked out on a few "safety nets" . Just Relax and be patient

Smile

From: arunvani on Wed Mar 1 15:01:59 2006. [Full View]

Today Editor says he gives telephone calls to Savarimuthu for taking rekhai of people and also he tells for the first four were got killed when Somu was near them. Does that mean whenever he calls Savarimuthu, somebody is evedropping editor's convesation with Savari so that they excute the person whose rekhai is taken??.
From: CR001 on Wed Mar 1 23:02:32 2006. [Full View]

exactly my thoughts!!!!!!! It must be something along those lines, and usually Nagas serials have a very twisted end, the person in suspect is usually a very different , unexpected, least shown character.....if you look at rudra veenai, who would have suspected the vettiyan to be that guy?
CR001
From: rein on Thu Mar 2 0:15:26 2006. [Full View]

Bahhh But who?
I mean I think we've pretty much gone through all the suspects.

It could be Thulasi, Krishna, Dr.Thillairajan. Hell, for all we know it could be the vellai kari from the Farm or even as far fetched as the "Tea samiyar"( I mean he likes to 'listen in', whose to say he doesn't have a PhD in molecular chemistry and is after the secret, all along!).... bahhh...

Naga must be having fun watching us squirm.

Naga I just have one question for you, have anyone one of us EVER actually guessed the right culprit or are we totally off the mark?
From: bingleguy on Thu Mar 2 3:50:27 2006. [Full View]

Hey guys

Only a Shakespeare can understand Shakespeare !

We know that our Guru s not a novice but Proficient ! So he would really have a meaning in his twists n turns ..... Lets be a lil patient to get the pancake completely ready to taste !

An Avid Naga Fan,
Vasanth
From: Naaga on Thu Mar 2 3:52:40 2006. [Full View]

rein wrote:

Naga I just have one question for you, have anyone one of us EVER actually guessed the right culprit or are we totally off the mark?

Bahhh ...............

"right"?????????"culprit"????????????????????........Maathi Yosi.....
From: ts on Thu Mar 2 5:53:33 2006. [Full View]

Editor tells Padma about the deaths. He says Palani died in the accident, Tamilnambi died instantly of his injuries, Ponnambalam died of poisoning and Natesa Sharma died of the fall. He tells them that he doesnt want to use somu anymore as there is a death wherever he goes. He says that there might be someone who is killing the people that somu visits and that he doesnt want the police or anyone else to jeopardise the search as he is desperate to get Thulasi's aliment cured. He says that they have to find the cure and Thulasi will produce the medicine at TK Pharma and together they will help the world. He pleads them for help. They owe him their alleigance.

Padma continues his confession. He says that when Arthi had called him to tell him that it was not manoharan who was the culprit, he suspected that their secret was already out. When she asked for the farm's address, he had given her the address and had called Savari to inform him that Arthi might knew a few things. He says that Savari was in the same area, test driving a car at a local call taxi firm that he was thinking of buying, and that he had asked Savari to kidnap Arthi.

Savari continues. He says that he picked up Arthi near her house. He confirmed that it was her when she had asked him to take her to the farm. Enroute, she spotted Somu and wanted to stop but he continued to drive and at a secluded place, he slapped her so hard that she passed out. Then, he says, he took her to the old school and called Padma to inform him about it. He says that the editor had come there and was very angry that they kidnapped arthi. He asked them to take her back home. Padma and Mangai do not agree to it. They say that Arthi had seen Savari and knows things and it is not a good idea to let her go, atleast until the research is complete.He says that when they saw arthi getting her conscious back they had asked the editor to leave. He was very furious but could not hep the situation. He says that Mangai had asked him to to tie her up and he did so.

Savari starts to cry out loud saying that he shouldnt have kidnapped her. Ac laughs at him and asks him why he did not cry when he did the 12 murders and when he gave Arthi the injection but now? Savari tells him that they did not kill anybody. Starting from Ismail, until Seethapathy, He says that he used the locals to get the fingerprint of the person and the next instant, the person would be dead. He says that he was so scared about it. In case of the little Somu, he took the finger print himself and Somu died instantly. He says that it made him very scared.

Anbarasu says that it was his idea to give Arthi the injection and that the editor doesnt know anything about the murders or th injection. AC asks him if he knew Editor before. Anbarasu says that he knew the editor only for a short time. He says that he knew Savari for some time. He says that Savari brought Ponnambalam's fingerprint to him he had read the duplicate nadi to him. He adds that Savari had told him that he had Ponnambalam's original nadi and wanted him to read it for him. He says that he had read ponnambalam's original nadi when Savari told him that tey had a few other such nadis that they wanted him to read. AC asks him how he could read the vattezhuthu, him being a duplicate josiyar. He tells the AC that he was an M.Phil in tamil and was a tamil teacher. He wanted to make quick money and hence had come to chennai and started his business. He says that he would write tamil songs with proper "edhugai monai" and its all anthadi, and had made the duplicate nadis with them. His business was not as good as he thought it would be and soon he had accumulated huge debts, mostly with Manoharan. Once Savari had taken him to the editor, who wanted him to read the nadis. He says that he told him that he could but hesitated when the editor told him that he had cleared all his debts and had bought him the house that he was renting. Anbarasu says that such a nice man would not kill people. He says that he read the nadis and would tell them about the herbs. Ac asks him if he is the one who prepares the medicine as well.

Mukilan intervenes and tells him that that was his job. Preparing medicine is a delicate process and anbarasu wouldnt know a thing about it. AC asks if the medicine was completed. Mukilan tells him that Thulasi would be okay if the medicine was ready and that one of the nadis was from the wrong person. AC asks him if there is no cure in Sidda medicine for this. Mukilan tells him that they thought that they had a cure and thats the reason for Thulasi to infect herself. But the medicine is not perfect, which left her with so much side effects. He says that only the nadi josiyam olais had the perfect cure.

AC asks the editor if he had to kill another person to get the medicine complete. Editor tells him that they did not kill anybody. AC asks about the injection to Arthi and editor accepts guilt. Mangai hastily says hat she was responsible for that. She says that she was about to inject it to herself. Padma had asked her why she was doing that and she had said that Thulasi's original research in germany had the readings but it was not possible to get it to them. They need the readings to prove about the cure but could not find someone who would help. Padma calls her crazy and asks her to think for some other plan. She tells him that all other doors were shut and the only way would be to kidnap someone for that purpose. She tells him that they already have kidnapped someone and are in danger of the project collapsing if they attempt to do it again. Anbarasu sujjects that they give the injection to Arthi. He says that they are not letting her out atleast until the project is finished. Padma starts to think. Mangai is totally against it and asks then what if they didnt find a cure. They tell her that if they can't cure thulasi, why should they bother about others. Savari sets off with the injection and injects Arthi. She struggeles and asks him what he had injected. He tells he that it was the blood from an Aids patient.... thodarum...
From: crazy on Thu Mar 2 7:11:26 2006. [Full View]

thank u ts! i am waiting every thursday to read the updates!
well done, keep writting!
From: vekala on Thu Mar 2 10:19:05 2006. [Full View]

I think we can rule out Dikshidar (Akash Uncle) from the suspicion list....
we suspected him since he was the only one (as far as we knew) capable of reading the old vatteZhuthu....but yesterday Anbarasu has confessed that he is capable of reading that!!!

As usual Naga's touch here:
All this while we knew Anbarasu as a fake nAdi joSiyar and we didn't have the least idea that he wld be capable of reading the suvadi's...But he is!

From: ts on Thu Mar 2 10:29:06 2006.

vekala wrote:

I think we can rule out Dikshidar (Akash Uncle) from the suspicion list....
we suspected him since he was the only one (as far as we knew) capable of reading the old vatteZhuthu....but yesterday Manohar has confessed that he is capable of reading that!!!

As usual Naga's touch here:
All this while we knew Manohar as a fake nAdi joSiyar and we didn't have the least idea that he wld be capable of reading the suvadi's...But he is!

Anbarasu not Manoharan

Smile

From: vekala on Thu Mar 2 10:29:21 2006. [Full View]

Also it was pleasing to follow in y'day's episode....that all the questions and doubts of the viewers were getting clarified/answered just like that in a neat and continuous flow without any holes!
I really apprecite Naga's effort in that!

Especially the narration why Arthi was chosen for their experiment was really ...(EtHuKu pOi naAm yellam Aepadi mudIya piChikiTom )

From: vekala on Thu Mar 2 10:35:58 2006.

vekala wrote:

I think we can rule out Dikshidar (Akash Uncle) from the suspicion list....
we suspected him since he was the only one (as far as we knew) capable of reading the old vatteZhuthu....but yesterday Manohar has confessed that he is capable of reading that!!!

As usual Naga's touch here:
All this while we knew Manohar as a fake nAdi joSiyar and we didn't have the least idea that he wld be capable of reading the suvadi's...But he is!

Anbarasu not Manoharan Smile

Smile

Oops! got confused with the names...thanks TS!
I have edited in my post itself

Smile

From: arunvani on Thu Mar 2 10:49:24 2006.

rein wrote:

Confused

But who?
I mean I think we've pretty much gone through all the suspects.

It could be Thulasi, Krishna, Dr.Thillairajan. Hell, for all we know it could be the vellai kari from the Farm or even as far fetched as the "Tea samiyar"( I mean he likes to 'listen in', whose to say he doesn't have a PhD in molecular chemistry and is after the secret, all along!).... bahhh...

Naga must be having fun watching us squirm.

Naga I just have one question for you, have anyone one of us EVER actually guessed the right culprit or are we totally off the mark?

Thulasi is possible ( I still fell she is only acting that she is having the disease)
Who is this Krishna?.
I feel Vishnu also possible suspect. He came after couple of killings took place and why is he here by the way?? ( He is only ex husband of Thulasi). Why thulasi got agitated when Editor had a quarrel with Vishnu eventhough she is diversed( This came long back). Editor didn't know about their marriage as well as diverse.

Once vishnu was watching editor taking down the number of Chatthiram where Somu was staying with eunuchs. I feel Vishnu is a real suspect.

Dr Thillai is out of question, as his daughter is an affected person.

Tea samiyar is being shown as someone who knows future and I feel he is not involved with murders. He is sending Dr Thillai to chidambaram for answers to his problems.

From: awatal on Thu Mar 2 12:31:06 2006.

Naaga wrote:

rein wrote:

Naga I just have one question for you, have anyone one of us EVER actually guessed the right culprit or are we totally off the mark?

Confused

...............

"right"?????????"culprit"????????????????????........Maathi Yosi.....

Does this mean that there is no "right" or no "culprit"?
I think we should read a lot more into this statement "Maathi Yosi"....

Any thoughts from others?

From: detective on Thu Mar 2 12:38:37 2006.

vekala wrote:

....that all the questions and doubts of the viewers were getting clarified/answered just like that in a neat and continuous flow without any holes!

Especially the narration why Arthi was chosen for their experiment was really Cool

Cool

...(EtHuKu pOi naAm yellam Aepadi mudIya piChikiTom Razz

Razz

I don't understand what makes you say that. Which of our questions was answered? In my opinion, more questions were raised than answered.

For e.g, a big question still remains unanswered. Savarimuthu just says matter-of-factly, that the editor tells him whose fingerprint to get, and Savari gets it. Well, among the 1000s of Ismails, how did he zero out one? Palani's list has just the names, not addresses!!! Will this ever be explained?? Only time will tell!!

There was no second opinion on why Aarthi was kidnapped. Almost all hubbers guessed that she was kidnapped because she knew too much. You are right that we were not "smart" enough to guess why she was chosen as a subject. That is because none of us are as insane, idiotic and senseless as the characters. Well, there is no rule that at least one character in the serial should have commonsense. All of them can be idiots, can't they??

In Naga's words, "...when we start we generally know the destination and our starting point is given.......there is one direct route to the destination we would have charted out..........but then we can take a detour to visit an interesting place as long as we know that we are not having a set-back in our forward movement.......".

I think CR is a classic example of 'having a set-back in our forward movement'. It started out well, but got lengthy beyond comfort. It has meandered to an ordinary serial filled with lame explanations for everything. I don't know long we have to endure all this "kaadhula poo".

Hope Naga does not end the serial saying the 12 people killed were killed for different reasons and there were 12 different killers and none of them had any idea about the naadi and Somu was just destined to be there and there is no real culprit.

Excuse me for the lengthy posting, but I am just venting my frustrations.

From: detective on Thu Mar 2 12:47:02 2006.

awatal wrote:

Naaga wrote:

rein wrote:

Naga I just have one question for you, have anyone one of us EVER actually guessed the right culprit or are we totally off the mark?

Confused

...............

"right"?????????"culprit"????????????????????........Maathi Yosi.....

Does this mean that there is no "right" or no "culprit"?
I think we should read a lot more into this statement "Maathi Yosi"....

Any thoughts from others?

Oh, I know, I know....Hurray...EUREKA.... I found out.... This is it...

All the 12 people dead were indebted to Kumaraguru. They treat him as their kadavuL. They knew Kumaraguru was looking for their naadis and a potential cure for his daughter. So they decided to kill themselves and get themselves out of Kumaraguru's way. That way, he will not worry about royalty issues.

So all the deaths are suicides, you see. There is no real culprit. Natesh Sharma jumped from the balcony, Manoharan and Father injected the venom themselves. It is difficult to explain a few deaths, but there is no rule that we should explain everything, isn't it????

From: laddu on Thu Mar 2 16:56:25 2006. [Full View]

Guys,
I'm really ready for an end on this...
Like God said he didn't do it but the people who tried to help him got insane and did some of the things that wasn't intentionally done for e.g is injecting Arthi with HIV blood or whatever.
None of these guys really killed all those people..the other group I don't know when Naga will bring them to light then we'll be able to guess who's really done it..we have to wait....

chao

From: bingleguy on Thu Mar 2 22:59:24 2006.

detective wrote:

Oh, I know, I know....Hurray...EUREKA.... I found out.... This is it...

All the 12 people dead were indebted to Kumaraguru. They treat him as their kadavuL. They knew Kumaraguru was looking for their naadis and a potential cure for his daughter. So they decided to kill themselves and get themselves out of Kumaraguru's way. That way, he will not worry about royalty issues.

So all the deaths are suicides, you see. There is no real culprit. Natesh Sharma jumped from the balcony, Manoharan and Father injected the venom themselves. It is difficult to explain a few deaths, but there is no rule that we should explain everything, isn't it????

Well, this seems to be a bit logical .... But if they wanted to get out of their way, is suicide the only way ? They could have given the naadis n helped their Kadavul ! This bothers .....

Guess there is no real culprit ! Probably we might find the part that explains their deaths very interesting ... coz Naga has a very great challenge of proving 12 deaths ... if there is NO CULPRIT !

Detective, Good find dude .... but we will come to know about the truth in ur investigation, in a short while ...... from now ......

An Avid Naga Fan
Vasanth

From: ts on Fri Mar 3 5:22:26 2006.

detective wrote:

Oh, I know, I know....Hurray...EUREKA.... I found out.... This is it...

All the 12 people dead were indebted to Kumaraguru. They treat him as their kadavuL. They knew Kumaraguru was looking for their naadis and a potential cure for his daughter. So they decided to kill themselves and get themselves out of Kumaraguru's way. That way, he will not worry about royalty issues.

So all the deaths are suicides, you see. There is no real culprit. Natesh Sharma jumped from the balcony, Manoharan and Father injected the venom themselves. It is difficult to explain a few deaths, but there is no rule that we should explain everything, isn't it????

hmmm.... i can see some sarcasm in your frustration... but the line between frustration and hostility is really thin...i hope you dont turn hostile

Smile

As Naaga had said earlier, the main character knows less than the audience and thats why people feel that the serial has suddenly applied the brakes (without ABS that is)

Smile

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I think counting chicks too early is not a good idea. All of the depositions could as well be choreographed by the editor or someone else... never know. Lets have some patience.

From: awatal on Fri Mar 3 9:52:55 2006.

detective wrote:

awatal wrote:

Naaga wrote:

rein wrote:

Naga I just have one question for you, have anyone one of us EVER actually guessed the right culprit or are we totally off the mark?

Confused

...............

"right"?????????"culprit"????????????????????........Maathi Yosi.....

Does this mean that there is no "right" or no "culprit"?
I think we should read a lot more into this statement "Maathi Yosi"....

Any thoughts from others?

Oh, I know, I know....Hurray...EUREKA.... I found out.... This is it...

All the 12 people dead were indebted to Kumaraguru. They treat him as their kadavuL. They knew Kumaraguru was looking for their naadis and a potential cure for his daughter. So they decided to kill themselves and get themselves out of Kumaraguru's way. That way, he will not worry about royalty issues.

So all the deaths are suicides, you see. There is no real culprit. Natesh Sharma jumped from the balcony, Manoharan and Father injected the venom themselves. It is difficult to explain a few deaths, but there is no rule that we should explain everything, isn't it????

I thought the same but I am not convinced. Am sure there is more to just individual deaths......cos everytime after the fingerprints were taken, the person died immediately. So there is no way this could be a suicide esp when those people did not know when their fingerprints were going to be taken....
"Maathi Yosi"nu sonnathula....we need to twist "right and culprit" and think laterally......let me ponder and see if I can come up with something else...
Naaga...I hope you really meant "Maathi Yosi" so that we go towards the right direction...

From: rein on Fri Mar 3 10:31:46 2006. [Full View]

Thanks soooo much for the clarification Naga... Bahhhh...
Only you would make a simple yes or no question into another riddle!

culprit, right person mathi yosi? ( doesn't that mean along the same lines) or did you mean matthi yosi( think differently)

Anyways, I'll try to think outside the box, ... what if one of them is lying? What if there is a mole within Editor's group, it's possible isn't it?

Masters in philosophy can make one learned in the arts of vattai elzuthu, eh? I really want to know Akash's side of the story. I'm not so sure if everything is neat( tidy) as we think it is. I mean we now assume for sure that Kadavul=editor but what abt the whole Periyavar business that was going on for a while? Remember back in the day when Dr. Mangai let Periyavar listen to Dr.Thillai conclusion of who the 12 ppl were going to be? Can we real assume that Periyavar and Kadavul are one and the same, I mean it could really be a tiny detail such as this that get us. Why would Naga use Kadavul and Periyavar intermittently? Am I just crazy and reading too much into it? Or is Periyavar still missing in action or has he also been arrested?

The reason, I have a love/hate relationship with this serial is because it's so damn intriguing and it always leaves me asking more questions than with answers. Great job Naga.

From: Naaga on Fri Mar 3 11:14:34 2006.

Welcome back, Detective..........i was missing your posts Very Happy

Very Happy

detective wrote:

Hope Naga does not end the serial saying the 12 people killed were killed for different reasons and there were 12 different killers and none of them had any idea about the naadi and Somu was just destined to be there

Wow........why not??????!!!!!!!

detective wrote:

and there is no real culprit.

Wow again........
"real"??????????????"culprit"??????????????

I am just reacting to the choice of words you guys use to describe the character...........

Is this a tele-serial or a real happening?.........i wonder (like my characters....)!!!

detective wrote:

Excuse me for the lengthy posting, but I am just venting my frustrations.

I quote TS..... Sad

Sad

hmmm.... i can see some sarcasm in your frustration... but the line between frustration and hostility is really thin...i hope you dont turn hostile

From: AJ on Fri Mar 3 13:49:05 2006.

detective wrote:

vekala wrote:

....that all the questions and doubts of the viewers were getting clarified/answered just like that in a neat and continuous flow without any holes!

Especially the narration why Arthi was chosen for their experiment was really Cool

Cool

...(EtHuKu pOi naAm yellam Aepadi mudIya piChikiTom Razz

Razz

I don't understand what makes you say that. Which of our questions was answered? In my opinion, more questions were raised than answered.

For e.g, a big question still remains unanswered. Savarimuthu just says matter-of-factly, that the editor tells him whose fingerprint to get, and Savari gets it. Well, among the 1000s of Ismails, how did he zero out one? Palani's list has just the names, not addresses!!! Will this ever be explained?? Only time will tell!!

I think detective has a good point here. How did the editor figure out the exact twelve people whose fingerprints he needed? I believe an explanation hasn't been given to this question yet. Or are we missing something?

From: detective on Fri Mar 3 14:45:32 2006.

Naaga wrote:

I quote TS..... Sad

Sad

hmmm.... i can see some sarcasm in your frustration... but the line between frustration and hostility is really thin...i hope you dont turn hostile

You raised so many questions in the past year and a half. When the answers start coming, several questions just go unanswered. And when I say unanswered, you are not just avoiding the question, but you are evading it.

Difference??

Not explaining how the editor zeroed in on his targets is avoiding. You did this all these days and it is acceptable because it heightens the suspense.

But the AC knows KG got his list from Palani, identified the person somehow and asked Savari to get the FP. But the AC is not curious how the editor found out the right person. He is not asking for that explanation to either of them. Is he that dumb? This is evading and I personally cannot accept that.

In short, you have started answering the questions you raised but you are conveniently skipping some key ones. There can only be 2 explanations for that. Either you want to keep the viewers guessing beyond a year and a half OR you just want them to forget those questions in the plethora of answers offered.

I hope it is not the latter.

Even if it is the former, I want to quote your words here (from the article in Hindu). If 600 episodes is "silly" for a dumb serial like Selvi, 85 is silly for an intelligent (yes, I mean it) serial like CR. Nobody thinks anything about Selvi, but here, people are really anxious. Stretching their anxiety beyond this, by evading questions is not right.

From: bpbp on Fri Mar 3 18:32:32 2006.

detective wrote:

Naaga wrote:

I quote TS..... Sad

Sad

hmmm.... i can see some sarcasm in your frustration... but the line between frustration and hostility is really thin...i hope you dont turn hostile

You raised so many questions in the past year and a half. When the answers start coming, several questions just go unanswered. And when I say unanswered, you are not just avoiding the question, but you are evading it.

Difference??

Not explaining how the editor zeroed in on his targets is avoiding. You did this all these days and it is acceptable because it heightens the suspense.

But the AC knows KG got his list from Palani, identified the person somehow and asked Savari to get the FP. But the AC is not curious how the editor found out the right person. He is not asking for that explanation to either of them. Is he that dumb? This is evading and I personally cannot accept that.

In short, you have started answering the questions you raised but you are conveniently skipping some key ones. There can only be 2 explanations for that. Either you want to keep the viewers guessing beyond a year and a half OR you just want them to forget those questions in the plethora of answers offered.

I hope it is not the latter.

Even if it is the former, I want to quote your words here (from the article in Hindu). If 600 episodes is "silly" for a dumb serial like Selvi, 85 is silly for an intelligent (yes, I mean it) serial like CR. Nobody thinks anything about Selvi, but here, people are really anxious. Stretching their anxiety beyond this, by evading questions is not right.

Detective,

Kumaraguru said he is surprised to see how the 12 persons got identified themselves through Somu. So even he is not aware of how he found them....

The confession is from Kumaraguru & co, not from Naga. Naga knows all the answers but It's Kumaraguru & Co who is confessing. So they could tell only what they know...

I may join your team if it's the end of the serial but as Naga told, we have still some more weeks to come....lets wait and see.

My guess:

1) It is one of the followers of Editor who has done all the murders bcos of over enthu...He may be either one of the 4 guys (doctor, savuri, gardener, padma) or any other follower...

From: detective on Fri Mar 3 18:49:26 2006. [Full View]

bpbp wrote:

Kumaraguru said he is surprised to see how the 12 persons got identified themselves through Somu. So even he is not aware of how he found them....

That is good only for Keezhaamboor Ponnambalam. Pazhani idenitified himself to the editor. He also lead them to Sangaran. Somu then goes to Ponnambalam. Thats it. Editor himself says he wanted Somu to be out of the loop and hence resorted to Savari. Somu did not identify all 12.
From: Naaga on Sat Mar 4 5:54:55 2006. [Full View]

detective wrote:

Somu did not identify all 12.

Does the editor say so......?
From: sangeetha_me on Sun Mar 5 0:20:22 2006. [Full View]

hey..thanks for the updates TS..

Remember this Balu character in Kumaraguru's office? I mean he was shown only once in the entire serial...when he shows Reddiar in..when he comes to meet the editor...

And if you connect back to one of the episodes in which Natesa Sharma was killed..Ishraf goes to do the job the first time..and then finds out that Natesa Sharma is out of station and that he will be back only after a week. Then he calls this guy called "Balu" and tells him that the Natesa Sharma is out of station and he will do the job after a week when he gets back.

Are these two "Balu's " the same ? or are they 2 different characters?

Iam raising this coz in one of the earlier posts, there was this thought raised that someone might be eavesdropping the editor's conversations..if this Balu is the one involved, then it would make sense coz he works with the editor and eavesdropping might just be easy for him.
From: detective on Sun Mar 5 13:57:45 2006. [Full View]

Naaga wrote:

Welcome back, Detective..........i was missing your posts

Thanks, Naaga.

Tell me something. In last week's episode, Padma is in Neidhal, giving directions to Aarthi. At that time, there is this bearded, bespectacled guy (apparantly a co-worker) walking behind him into the editor's office.

Was that you??

From: Naaga on Sun Mar 5 15:35:14 2006.

detective wrote:

Tell me something. In last week's episode, Padma is in Neidhal, giving directions to Aarthi. At that time, there is this bearded, bespectacled guy (apparantly a co-worker) walking behind him into the editor's office.

Was that you??

Don't you think that guy has much more hair than me?

Laughing

From: aanaa on Mon Mar 6 9:20:40 2006. [Full View]

Naaga wrote:

Don't you think that guy has much more hair than me?

????
From: Poppoy on Mon Mar 6 19:35:22 2006. [Full View]

Hi Naga
The serial is coming out great.. just like all your series even this one is unfolding well... Just like in yendira paravai when Ponnabalam starts his confession we were mislead to think the there was the end and then came the story that valari was the culprit helping ponnabalam... there came ending to the story... in swarna reegai... when we were lead to think that Kasi(Talaivasal vijai's character) was the soul culprit.. there came DAS to be the ultimate greedy person... In veedadhu karupu series when every one was lead to think that the puusari was the Karupu... out came cheetan to be the original karupu...in the original marma deesam.. when every one thought of the borthers to be the culprit... out came the doctor(Played by delhi ganesh) as the real greedy guy...

In similar lines can we expect there to be a different kadavul or person behind all this and not kumaraguru being the culprit....

Detective: why not approch things in line....

Naga: also I have a suggetion to make.. why not release your serials in DVD format for all of us to cherish... just like how the production companies does here for majore serials. like Friends, Sienfiled, Law & Order etc....

Till Next Great Hunting guys...

From: crazy on Tue Mar 7 5:30:46 2006.

Poppoy wrote:

Naga: also I have a suggetion to make.. why not release your serials in DVD format for all of us to cherish... just like how the production companies does here for majore serials. like Friends, Sienfiled, Law & Order etc....

yeah great idea!

From: bingleguy on Tue Mar 7 7:44:46 2006. [Full View]

Good observation Poppey ! Nice findings ....

BTW we cannot really expect anything directly from Naaga

Lets wait n watch

From: vekala on Tue Mar 7 11:28:17 2006.

detective wrote:

vekala wrote:

....that all the questions and doubts of the viewers were getting clarified/answered just like that in a neat and continuous flow without any holes!

Especially the narration why Arthi was chosen for their experiment was really Cool

Cool

...(EtHuKu pOi naAm yellam Aepadi mudIya piChikiTom Razz

Razz

I don't understand what makes you say that. Which of our questions was answered? In my opinion, more questions were raised than answered.

I do agree with u that there are lot of questions that are YET to be answered (Am saying 'YET to be answered' and not as 'unanswered 'cos am sure Naga will answer them in the coming episodes... Moreover i feel thatz how the flow can be! (Even bpbp has mentioned a similar view)

detective wrote:

For e.g, a big question still remains unanswered. Savarimuthu just says matter-of-factly, that the editor tells him whose fingerprint to get, and Savari gets it. Well, among the 1000s of Ismails, how did he zero out one? Palani's list has just the names, not addresses!!! Will this ever be explained?? Only time will tell!!

I feel u r expecting too much in an 1/2 hr show....If things were explained the way u expect ....then it wld not be a thriller..but end up as a normal Mega serial.
The confession here, is not from JUST one person but from several persons. If u had noticed the shots...not all of them are interrogated at the same time...The info from each individual is shown as a continuous shot to the viewers.
I guess that when the details abt the murderer(if one) is revealed there has to be one more round of explanation as to how he followed the scar man to kill the person whose thumb print was to be taken...then ur above asked questions will be answered. (This is what i meant at the begining...as thatz how the flow can be.)
But as u had mentioned there is a possibility of it being left unanswered too!!!
Let's wait n c...there are still many more weeks to go....even Naga had mentioned that the serial is just warming up now...not ending!

From: nacdaman on Tue Mar 7 13:30:40 2006. [Full View]

Did any one notice dr.mangayarkarasi talk about thulasi's first thesis was on Poisonous medicines. Also there is this quack doctor who claims to have supplied these guys with poison.

I feel this is strongly connected to the murders.
From: nacdaman on Tue Mar 7 13:35:14 2006. [Full View]

Hey i also love the idea about releasing naaga's old series in DVD format. RIght now swathi soft solutions is doing old Mouli classics (like flight 172 etc ) , cho dramas and Crazy mohan's maadhu - cheenu etc. I had a blast seeing flight 172 after such a long time. I started seeing marma desam, a little bit of swarna regai .. In between for 3 years i was out of tamilnadu and couln't follow any of Naaga' serials. I would be the first in line to buy the DVD's if and when they come out.

Mr. Naaga Who has the copy right to those serials ?? You were doing it for mimbangal right??
From: karthik_rcs on Wed Mar 8 11:57:02 2006. [Full View]

Hello Naga,
Can you tell us about the song played at the end of the serial
"ATHIYUM ANTHAMAMUM..."
Is it composed or taken from old tamil scripts.

Can we get the lyrics of what said in that please?
From: karthik_rcs on Wed Mar 8 12:07:07 2006. [Full View]

Naga Serials in DVD. That would be great
At least we need this chidambara ragasiyam. It covered many things
and concepts. I am spiritually enlightened by this serial. Every wednesday and thursday will make my soul fresh.

Naga Sir,
I feel proud to live in the same era you live. Thanks to creator.
From: bpbp on Thu Mar 9 0:44:57 2006. [Full View]

I feel now-a-days the episode is ending very early, at least 5 mins before the end of the 1/2 hr slot....
From: bingleguy on Thu Mar 9 1:40:09 2006. [Full View]

did u notice a DIALOGUE yesterday ... said by GOD to the inspector

" The TRUTH can be strange than what u and i can imagine "

Guess Naga wishes to make us think deeply ! this is what is the real situational answer for all the guesses now ! Kudos Naga !

Naga sir,
Also one observation, when YGM calls from Chidambaram or may be calls from somewhere ... the ppl here(somu or aunty) can use a phone that has a caller ID to find from where is he calling ... i guess he is there in Chidambaram for some time .... Just a thought Naga !
From: ts on Thu Mar 9 6:26:55 2006. [Full View]

Savari sobs and says that he had personally gone to take little Somu's fingerprint and the boy dropped dead in an instant. He says that he was so afraid at that point and feared as to how many more deaths should he witness. He says that when they knew that the little somu was the wrong person, the editor told him that he feels the big somu was the 12th person and had asked them to leve him peace for now.

Padma says that eventhough Somu was his friend, God came first to him and he had to do something. Hence he arranged for Somu to be kidnapped from the farm with Savari's help. He says that he was attacked too as the men did not know about his involvement. Somu was then taken to TK Pharma and his fingerprint taken.

Editor says that he knew that it could be these idiots as they had left the mobile phone with Somu. He says that he had asked somu to stay where he was but the over zealous Somu had escaped and had called the police.

Kanthan says that he had sent an SMS to the editor when he was going to TK Pharma with the AC for the raid, thus helping them to escape. Kanthan says that he was a good friend of Savari and savari had told him about the kidnap and the aids injection. He wanted to arrest Savari but he feared it would affect God and hence did not do it. He says that Arthi was moved to Mangai's house for a few days and he did not know about it. When they felt that it was not safe to have Arthi at Mangai's house, they had left her in her drive way. He says that he knew about it when they got a call from the Neelangarai police station and that he didnt want the AC to know about it as he feared that the AC would know everything if he speaks to Arthi. He says that he informed GOD, who had gone to Arthi's house and made sure that she couldnt speak. Kanthan says the AC knows the rest. (this part of the "story" is a bit sloppy).

AC asks why he tried to protect Prabhu. Kanthan rejects the claim and says that he never did. AC asks prabhu why he took another copy of Akash's photo. Prabhu says that he got a call from Padma after he gave the prints for development. Padma had asked him to take a second copy of Akash's photo and had wanted him to make sure Chaya doesnt know of it. He wanted Prabhu to give the photo to some guy. AC asks padma who that was. Padma says that the editor felt that Akash was following Somu and wanted to monitor him. Ac asks the editor where he kept the olaichuvadis as they cant find them in the farm house or anywhere else. Editor says he doesnt know. AC tells him that there he knows ways to make him speak. Natarajan comes inside and and asks the AC not to harass his clients.Editor runs to Natarajan and asks him what happened. Natarajan tells him that the bail has been rejected. Editor asks him to forget about the bail and asks him about Somu. Natarajan tells him taht he will speak about it later and hands over the bail order for Prabhu and Mukilan to the AC. AC asks his deputy to let them go and the others to go inside. He stops the editor and tells him that his "story" was so good and that he proved to be a good writer. Editor tells him that not all stories told by writers are fictitious and that when he comes to know the "real truth", never know, it might be stranger than fiction.

Akash (yes you heard it right.. he is alive and well ) gets a call from the AC who informs him of the case. It seems Akash had been touring around the Chola mandalam temples. Akash is surprised/shocked to hear that Editor is behind it. AC asks Akash to come to chennai to talk about little somu. Akash tells the granny about the case and she is shocked. He tells her that Arthi is back home. Granny asks him to inform Thillairajan about it. He says that he will do it later and locks himself in his room. He seems to be concerned and confused.

Mani's assistant goes to Parameswaradikshitar's house and informs Thillairajan about Arthi. They rush back to Akash's house to call his home from Mani's phone. Sivakami attends the phone and he asks her about Arthi. Sivakami breaks down and tells him about Arthi's aids. He says that he knows about it as it was written in her nadi. Somu takes the phone and asks him where he was. Thillai tells somu that he is after a cure for the disease and shall return when he has it. Somu tells him that the kidnapping was for getting the cure and that all the culprits have been nabbed. There is no one seeking the medicine any more he says. Thillai sings him the song from Arthi's nadi which says the medicine will reveal itself at Thillai sthalam and hangs up....thodarum...
From: crazy on Thu Mar 9 11:50:16 2006. [Full View]

[quote="ts"e. Thillai sings him the song from Arthi's nadi which says the medicine will reveal itself at Thillai sthalam and hangs up....thodarum...[/quote]
wow very interesting,
thank u ts. for ur updates
From: AJ on Thu Mar 9 12:01:49 2006. [Full View]

Akash's reaction when the paati asked him to convey the news of Arthi's return to YGM seemed very suspicious, as if he was disappointed or perturbed about something.
Looks like editor and co. have nothing to do with the murders after all....now, the focus shifts to Akash, YGM, or Dikshitar as the possible suspects..or, that's what we are being led to believe.
In the editor's own words, "Truth can be stranger that what you and I can imagine"!
After a few weeks of slack, the goings are getting interesting again. It was refreshing to see Akash, Paati, YGM etc on last night's episode. I guess I kinda started to miss them
From: AJ on Thu Mar 9 12:24:18 2006. [Full View]

TS, just one small addition to your update. Somu is at Arthi's place and Archana is serving him food, when they hear a rattling noise from Arthi's room. They get startled, and go check on Arthi, who, tries to get up and sit upright. Somu is delighted that Arthi can move her upper body now. Arthi asks Somu to seat her upright against the pillow. Somu holds her in his arms affectionately, and Sivakami is touched by Somu's gesture.
From: detective on Thu Mar 9 12:42:23 2006. [Full View]

AJ wrote:

Akash's reaction when the paati asked him to convey the news of Arthi's return to YGM seemed very suspicious, as if he was disappointed or perturbed about something.

I think that is a decoy; it is to mislead us into suspecting Akash. It will be a big suspense if Akash was indeed a (the??) bad guy. Why would Naaga unnecessarily dilute it??
From: arunvani on Thu Mar 9 13:15:16 2006. [Full View]

I believe sthlavritsham will grow at Thillai which akashsthalam,. I believe the sthalavriksham is at present dead ( as per story) and it will grow and show itself in the Temple. When that happens, then the medicine will be ready
From: Naaga on Thu Mar 9 14:51:12 2006. [Full View]

arunvani wrote:

I believe the sthalavriksham is at present dead ( as per story) and it will grow and show itself in the Temple.

As per story...?????????? That is THE reality. Visit Chidambaram and find out for yourself.

Some interesting facts about Thillai..........It is a poisonous tree. Belief is that, even the air that passes through it acquires toxicity. Most of the Sthalavrikshams in various temples are generally useful trees or plants (if not for food/medicinal values then other utility values). But the Sthalavriksham of the so called "THE Temple" is a poisonous and useless tree (that is if you could discount the usage of its poison in a destructive mode).

It grows at the level of the high-tides in the coastal marshlands. Therefore, we can infer that the sea waters must have been reaching the Temple premises sometimes in the past........and, that would also explain the placement of the Vriksham (or atleast the marker for the place where it stood once) close to the east-gopuram and the very absence of the vriksham itself. (Would it also have some connection to the story of the vishnu idol in the temple, being thrown into the sea by one of the kings? one wonders!)

The some of the other names for the tree, blinding-tree, tiger-tree, buta-buta.
From: Pannu on Thu Mar 9 15:46:24 2006. [Full View]

Hello Everybody,

I am a new one in the forum. I was watching CR for a long time. Unfoutunately couldnt able to watch the last 4 months episodes. But I got the story updates from this forum only...Nice work...
From: Pannu on Thu Mar 9 15:55:36 2006. [Full View]

In one of the earlier episodes,
The scar man(suvari gives Akash's photo to someone in the dark at the place where Aarthi was locked and asks him to follow him. At that time the scar man shows the photo to Aarthi and says that she knows him and Aarthi gets shocked...There is no explanation from KG and co. of how did they know that Aarthi knows about Aakash. It seems like Padma just suspected Aakash because he saw him at Somu's house. Also they seem not to know how deep Aarthi knows about the stuff happening.

I guess that KG and co. are not fully telling the truth...they are still hiding something.
From: vekala on Thu Mar 9 17:31:25 2006. [Full View]

Up until last week they showed editor and co's confession as somewhat honest. But in y'day's episode the way editor denies the whereabouts of the Chuvadi's....almost confirms the suspicion that he is hiding something/someone!...and may be not everything they confessed so far is true!!! They all r surely holding back SOMETHING!!
Also when Prabhu said that he gave the other copy of Akash photo to some guy whom Padma asked to give to...here again they didn't show that guys face... only his bracelet and neither did the commisioner drill down to who it was. Seems fishy!
Even Akash's reaction for commisioner's call and the way grandma said that he had been away touring around raises a suspicion on him....but am sure....he is definitely not behind this.
Let's see!
From: vekala on Thu Mar 9 17:53:09 2006. [Full View]

I feel Arthi's knowledge abt this whole thing is still not explained clearly.
All this while they showed zealous Somu so anxious and restless to find the culprit. Hence wherever he went to find the truth he was always in a hurry...... Even when he came to Arthi's house.
But now that he is free...he could have asked Arthi abt her knowledge on this matter.....since she is capable of using her hands now. But they showed nothing on this yet!
Does that mean... all that Arthi found was just those forum pages associated with Tulasi and Neidal phone number from the phone-diary ????
or
Did she really find out that the editor was behind all this.....if so HOW? Just the forum pages and phone number is not enof to make the judgement....infact in that case Tulasi must have been Arthi's suspect.
So what really did she find out?

From: detective on Thu Mar 9 17:56:49 2006.

Naaga wrote:

Most of the Sthalavrikshams in various temples are generally useful trees or plants (if not for food/medicinal values then other utility values). But the Sthalavriksham of the so called "THE Temple" is a poisonous and useless tree

What is meant by "sthalavriksham"? Is there an easily pronouncable tamil equivalent for that - like kodimaram, 'maruthuva' kaaNdam etc....

From: aanaa on Thu Mar 9 19:31:23 2006. [Full View]

Naaga wrote:

The some of the other names for the tree, blinding-tree, tiger-tree, buta-buta.

again another character changed

malavika
now

Where I can find the charactors and their real names
From: aanaa on Thu Mar 9 19:32:05 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

up....thodarum...

thanks
From: nacdaman on Fri Mar 10 12:10:40 2006. [Full View]

Thulasi does her first phd on Poisonous medicines . And vishnu says he worked with her on the first research together. He is there in the farm house watching every move of GOD. Also it looks like he is the one who picks up Akash's foto from the Lab.

Also Naaga's mention about "Some interesting facts about Thillai..........It is a poisonous tree" makes my belief even stronger that its Vishnu / Thulasi who are behind the whole thing
From: ts on Fri Mar 10 13:35:17 2006. [Full View]

Kanthan said previously that he was not aware that his Kadavul was involved in all this. He said that he came to know of it only later. From last episode we see him chatting with Savari and knows pretty well that all they do is for kadavul. When he gave one of those statements, he was clearly lying thru his teeth.. but which one is it ???

From: arunvani on Fri Mar 10 14:04:55 2006.

Naaga wrote:

arunvani wrote:

I believe the sthalavriksham is at present dead ( as per story) and it will grow and show itself in the Temple.

As per story...?????????? That is THE reality. Visit Chidambaram and find out for yourself.

Some interesting facts about Thillai..........It is a poisonous tree. Belief is that, even the air that passes through it acquires toxicity. Most of the Sthalavrikshams in various temples are generally useful trees or plants (if not for food/medicinal values then other utility values). But the Sthalavriksham of the so called "THE Temple" is a poisonous and useless tree (that is if you could discount the usage of its poison in a destructive mode).

It grows at the level of the high-tides in the coastal marshlands. Therefore, we can infer that the sea waters must have been reaching the Temple premises sometimes in the past........and, that would also explain the placement of the Vriksham (or atleast the marker for the place where it stood once) close to the east-gopuram and the very absence of the vriksham itself. (Would it also have some connection to the story of the vishnu idol in the temple, being thrown into the sea by one of the kings? one wonders!)

The some of the other names for the tree, blinding-tree, tiger-tree, buta-buta.

Naaga Sir,
one of our forum friend sometime back has written that the blinding tree has anti-AIDS medicinal properties.
Does the CR also based on that scientific fact ??

If so, it is really fantastic to mix Naadi and Science
.
So our Dr Thillai will find the same and during preparation of medicine he may lose his eye( ??? ) so that the astroiloger's prediction of him not seeing his daughter again may also come true.

Akash's reaction to the news was surprising. He once said to Somu that he is researching about different type of regai's where some identical type of regai people are dying by same way.
Is he the culprit who kills those people with poisons and researching about those people regai whether their regai's are same type.
I am confusing myself too much???

From: arunvani on Fri Mar 10 14:06:26 2006.

Naaga wrote:

arunvani wrote:

I believe the sthalavriksham is at present dead ( as per story) and it will grow and show itself in the Temple.

As per story...?????????? That is THE reality. Visit Chidambaram and find out for yourself.

Some interesting facts about Thillai..........It is a poisonous tree. Belief is that, even the air that passes through it acquires toxicity. Most of the Sthalavrikshams in various temples are generally useful trees or plants (if not for food/medicinal values then other utility values). But the Sthalavriksham of the so called "THE Temple" is a poisonous and useless tree (that is if you could discount the usage of its poison in a destructive mode).

It grows at the level of the high-tides in the coastal marshlands. Therefore, we can infer that the sea waters must have been reaching the Temple premises sometimes in the past........and, that would also explain the placement of the Vriksham (or atleast the marker for the place where it stood once) close to the east-gopuram and the very absence of the vriksham itself. (Would it also have some connection to the story of the vishnu idol in the temple, being thrown into the sea by one of the kings? one wonders!)

The some of the other names for the tree, blinding-tree, tiger-tree, buta-buta.

Naaga Sir,
one of our forum friend sometime back has written that the blinding tree has anti-AIDS medicinal properties.
Does the CR also based on that scientific fact ??

If so, it is really fantastic to mix Naadi and Science
.
So our Dr Thillai will find the same and during preparation of medicine he may lose his eye( ??? ) so that the astroiloger's prediction of him not seeing his daughter again may also come true.

Akash's reaction to the news was surprising. He once said to Somu that he is researching about different type of regai's where some identical type of regai people are dying by same way.
Is he the culprit who kills those people with poisons and researching about those people regai whether their regai's are same type.
I am confusing myself too much???

From: detective on Fri Mar 10 14:28:44 2006. [Full View]

Naaga wrote:

detective wrote:

Somu did not identify all 12.

Does the editor say so......?

Editor doesn't have to say that in as many words. I said that myself based on what has happened so far.

Pazhani identifies himself to the editor. He also identifies Sangaran. Somu takes Sangaran's FP to Ponnambalam. So he identifies Ponnambalam to the editor. Then Somu goes to interview Nadesa Sharma. He probably told the editor about it and hence "identifies" nadesan as well. But here, the editor says all the people identified by Somu (that is just two people, though the way editor speaks makes you believe there were 10 people) are dead and hence he will not use Somu for this purpose anymore. This was at the beginning of the episode that aired on Mar 01.

After that there is nothing said about how the people were identified. How can we assume that Somu identified them to the editor?
From: arunvani on Fri Mar 10 14:35:06 2006. [Full View]

In one of the previous episodes, this appears :
Quote:
When the AC visits the farm house ..Tulasi holds out the origamy of a golden leaf and a red leaf....and she tells that one denotes a dried leaf and the red one denotes a fresh leaf....
she tells some poetic lines and explains that some herb which is red in color - it's tender fresh leaves and the same herb's dried leaves plus something else...(???) when mixed together wld yield the medicine. The details abt the leaf is the ragasiyum....
unquote.

Does the sthalavriksham has the same type of leaves??
From: arunvani on Fri Mar 10 14:50:42 2006. [Full View]

In one earlier episode

Somu also asks Akash, y he is so interested in all this. Akash then tells him that when in US he has done a reserach with the Thumb prints and have analysed a certain pattern with similar thumb prints. Like the persons who had a certain pattern where all divorcee and another group of persons with similar prints didn't stay in a job for long and so on....
But when he shared this with his collegues they had mocked at him. Then he had to come to India..where he came across the Nadi josiyum where again the same thumb print is used. So Somu is a CASE STUDY for hiim now to prove his theory.
Somu gets angry on listening to this..and asks Akash whether he is gunea pig for his research.
unquote :
I start suspecting Akash as he may researching the some people's death by poison???

Quote:
..but Akash asks somu to hang on as he has one more thing of Somu's. He hurries inside to take an envelope from his bag ....but Somu leaves the place.
unquote

When somu is going to get that envelope and what is in it. Is it the research paper on Mercury?? and its use in Siddha medicine??
From: mirunmanish on Mon Mar 13 11:06:55 2006. [Full View]

thanks a lot ts& detective.
i'm a class 12 students with my board exams gong on.and i couldn't few episodes.ur updates & ur comments on it by each of the hubber is reallly amazing(how keenly u observe things in wat u see)

Dear naga,
ur work on this serial is really amazing.hope u end it by june(i mite not be able to watch after june due to admission to a coll)

Manish
From: kathir on Tue Mar 14 23:46:47 2006. [Full View]

hai,,

just curious about Abirami's dad... He too knows very well about nadi josiyam..
maybe he also one of the key person in this plot....

my 2 cents...

kathir
From: Poppoy on Wed Mar 15 15:03:47 2006. [Full View]

TS: Waiting anxiously for the Update.. Great Job! Keep it up

Poppoy
From: kalaavathi on Wed Mar 15 20:47:06 2006. [Full View]

hi all hubbers!
I happened to miss Chitambara ragasiyam, on googling the title,this was the best site I came across!!! grt work u all!
And I am so glad to see NAGA sir too interacting here!!
NAGA, I loved ur VIDATHU KARUPU...I really love to own a copy of tht serial. is it availible anywhere????
From: kalaavathi on Wed Mar 15 20:51:12 2006. [Full View]

talking abt CR!!!
I doubt Thulasi's Ex husband!! he seems to be too slient( as per NAGA's style)...LOL !
now tht we r trying to think in the lines of NAGA!, I guess NAGA will have a tough time satisfying all of us!!! ...LOL!...so I really dont want to guess!!!

I guess some ppl take serials way too serious!
but I guess we should all just enjoy the way the story unfolding !!!!

From: arunvani on Thu Mar 16 4:30:37 2006.

kalaavathi wrote:

talking abt CR!!!
I doubt Thulasi's Ex husband!! he seems to be too slient( as per NAGA's style)...LOL !
now tht we r trying to think in the lines of NAGA!, I guess NAGA will have a tough time satisfying all of us!!! ...LOL!...so I really dont want to guess!!!

I guess some ppl take serials way too serious!
but I guess we should all just enjoy the way the story unfolding !!!!

Yes possibility is there for Thulasi's ex husband. No explanation why he is here. He helped AC to get the finger prints of Editor. He may be interested in Editor to be behind the bar???

From: ts on Thu Mar 16 6:36:43 2006. [Full View]

Granny asks Thillai about Arthi and Thillai tells her that he knew that she would get the disease and it has been confirmed now. He tells her that things have happened according to her nadi and the nadi also says about the cure and he is sure to get it. Granny rubbishes nadi josiyam and asks him to look out for a cure for Arthi. Thillai tells her that he is so sure that he will get the cure and that he doesnt have to seek it elsewhere. He tells the granny that it was mani who read Arthi's nadi and things have happened as it is given. Akash comes there and Thillai asks him where he had been all these days. Akash tells him that he had been visiting temples.
Thillai And Parameswara Dikshitar leave for PD's house.

Akash asks granny if she really didnt believe in nadi josiyam. Granny tells him that Thillai should not hear to some josiyar but should look for a real cure. Akash says that Mani is a fraud then and asks her why she supports him. He asks mani to pack up. Granny intervenes and asks mani to continue with his work. Mani leaves the place. Akash asks granny about the chuvadi and she asks him not to speak about it ever again. Frustrated Akash tells her that there is nothing else that he can speak to her about. Granny gets angry and asks him to go away. She tells him that his dad has stopped speaking with her and that he can stop speaking as well and go back to America.

Thillai is sitting in the oonjal and Kamakshi (PD's sister) comes near him and asks him to give her some poison. Thillai asks her to take rest. SHe tells him that according to her nadi, the cure has to come from him and that she would be happy to take visham as she cannot bear the pain any more. Thillai and PD make her go back to bed. PD tells him about what his guru (Akash's ggranddad) said to him. He says that it was pUrajanma karma that kamakshi was suffering from. He says that Kamakshi was a landlady in her previous birth when she tortured her servent. Her kids had left her in her old age and it was the servent who took care of her. She was sorry for what she did to the servent and gave her all her jewels. PD says that in this birth she had to suffer in the first part and will live happily in the latter part... thats according to the nadi. He says that Abirami seperated her brother from her sister-in-law in her previous birth. Thus in this birth she lost her husband. PD says that if one seeks his nadi, he can see what he did in his previous birth and can have a better understanding of why he is suffering in this birth. Thillai says that he has a similar experience. He says that when he was seeking the 12 people from the nadi, he had come across a few, whose nadi had the same line - about the killing of 14 innocent people. When he brought them together, all these people were involved in an accident that lead to 14 deaths. PD says that it was all a kanakku. He says that Thillai, by arranging for these people to meet, enabled these people to get rid of their guilty consciousness. THillai sees Kamakshi still whining and asks Abirami to get a paper and pen so that he can prescribe some pain killer for her. While he is writing his presciption, kamakshi brings in a box of medicines and throws them on the desk. She tells him that she has all pain killers, asprin to morphine but they are of no use and asks him to prescribe some poison.

Granny asks Akash to take some stuff over to PD's house. Akash refuses. Granny asks him as to why he was refusing to go to PD's house. He tells her that there was nothing like that. Granny says that she had been noticing him for a few days and he has been behaving odd. She asks him if he doesnt like anything at PD's house or if he was hiding something from her. Akash asks the granny if she was hiding anything from him. Granny vehimently refuses. Akash says that they knew that it was Somu's nadi that is in the house and the killers have been captured. He asks the granny why she was still hiding the nadi and says that he feels something sinister. Granny tells him that he doesnt have to go to PD's house and asks Mani's assistant to take the things to PD's house. Akash seems to smell something fishy....thodarum.
From: detective on Thu Mar 16 11:21:28 2006. [Full View]

kalaavathi wrote:

I guess some ppl take serials way too serious!

That is because it is a serious serial which showed lot of promise in the beginning. Do you think anybody cares about Alli Raajjiyam??

From: detective on Thu Mar 16 11:37:08 2006.

Granny asks Thillai about Arthi ...... Thillai And Parameswara Dikshitar leave for PD's house.

Just before they leave, Granny asks Thillai about Somu - she heard Thillai talking to some 'Somu' when he called home. Thillai says he is just a family friend and asks granny why is she curious about it. Granny mazhuppifies.....

He says that it was pUrajanma karma that kamakshi was suffering from....... Thillai says that he has a similar experience...... She tells him that she has all pain killers, asprin to morphine but they are of no use and asks him to prescribe some poison.

Almost throughout the scene, there is some "suspenseful", "inquisitive" music. I don't know if that was meant to emphasize the importance of the scene. But I couldn't help thinking about the post-tea session on the final day of a test match that is heading towards an obvious draw......

From: AJ on Thu Mar 16 12:50:36 2006. [Full View]

I did not get the significance of the whole narration by Dikshitar about karma from previous birth, and its consequences in the current birth etc. I thought it would lead to something towards the end of the episode, but it didn't.
Looks like granny has some secret of her own. Have to wait and watch how it unfolds. Thillai is in Chidambaram to seek a cure for his daughter's ailment. But he seems to be complacent...shouldn't he be proactive and get to the bottom of it? What is he waiting for? Divine intervention?
From: bpbp on Thu Mar 16 15:02:33 2006. [Full View]

In the last episode, PD's sister is asking the doctor to prescribe poison. I guess the real medicine is something to do with the toxic tree....
From: bpbp on Thu Mar 16 15:04:12 2006. [Full View]

Why Akash is very interested in getting Somu's olaichuvadi? Is he also in search of the medicine?

Who knows Granny could be the serial killer
From: kalaavathi on Thu Mar 16 16:57:10 2006. [Full View]

serious serial...u r rite...so lets just enjoy the way it goes!!!

I am also thinking of the granny now...seems like she knows something more about Nadijoshiyam....indirectly she seem to be the block for the completion of the medicine......
From: detective on Thu Mar 16 18:31:42 2006. [Full View]

bpbp wrote:

PD's sister is asking the doctor to prescribe poison. I guess the real medicine is something to do with the toxic tree....

yeah....that may be the connection.... sister will be asking for poison ad nauseum and one fine day, it will dawn on Dr.Thillai to really give her poison, may even be with euthanizing intentions

kalaavathi wrote:

I am also thinking of the granny now...seems like she knows something more about Nadijoshiyam....indirectly she seem to be the block for the completion of the medicine......

I don't think it has to do with the medicene. She just doesn't want Akash to read that naadi. There may be something in that naadi that will disturb Akash??? Maybe some disturbing fact about Akash's future??
From: crazy on Fri Mar 17 3:49:50 2006. [Full View]

bpbp wrote:

Who knows Granny could be the serial killer
From: arunvani on Fri Mar 17 7:09:35 2006. [Full View]

bpbp wrote:

In the last episode, PD's sister is asking the doctor to prescribe poison. I guess the real medicine is something to do with the toxic tree....

It is like sword for sword, blood for blood, poison for poisonous killer diseases like L & I.
Dr Thillai has to think that in Siddha medicine, strong compound like Mercury is being used for toughest disease. Here Dr has to realise that sthalavriksham is a toxic tree/poisonous tree and so it is a medicine for L & I.
From: arunvani on Fri Mar 17 7:17:26 2006. [Full View]

.[/quote]
I don't think it has to do with the medicene. She just doesn't want Akash to read that naadi. There may be something in that naadi that will disturb Akash??? Maybe some disturbing fact about Akash's future??[/quote]

Akash id doing the research on Rekhai patterns and so he could be a killer and that fact may be in that somu's chuvadi. Patti may be knowing that and she does not want akash to read that.

However, if she knows some disturbing fact about Akash, then why should allow tha marriage proposal of Akash with Abirami?.
From: fanatic on Fri Mar 17 17:47:09 2006. [Full View]

I've been religiously following Chidambara Rahasiyam and a great fan of Naga for his brilliant work in redefining the way tamil serials are to be made. All his serials have been a virtuoso piece of film making, however the last few episodes of CR has been so much of a drag that so much of it is so un-surprising. Idiosyncratic turn-ons can be tedious and off-putting.

Just to bring some life to those serious discussion lets talk about the new episode. Theres no pun intended here and with all due respect to Naga
------------

The next episode in making is Directed by Kaga. It is about finding the cure for the killer disease Bird Flu.

Ellame muttai thaan.

So far there are 12 reported cases of bird flu deaths. All those 12 people who died have one thing in common. Theres a bird feather next to each of them when they die.

Inspector Kazhugu is investigating these cases with the clues leading to a bunch of people preparing 'Chittu kuruvi legiyam' with the help of one Mr.Thenappan who runs a magazine called "Then Koodu".

The grandson 'Mayilvaganan' comes to vedanthangal to meet his granny 'Paravai Muniamma' to find out the real cure for Bird Flu.Its been speculated that theres a cure for Bird Flu in (Parrot) 'Kili josiyam'. Mayilvaganan tries to get the 'Kili Josiyam' cards (seetu) from the josiyar 'Kakha Radhakrishnan' who sits outside their house who refuses to share it.

Mayilvaganan meets a local 'Koravan' who tells him "Ellame Muttai thaan. Kakha ennathan karuppa irundhalum muttai vellaiya thaan irukkum. Muttai vellai a irundhalum veliye vara kunju karuppa thaan irukkum".

While Mayilvaganan tries to find the muttai which the korvan is reffering to, the koravan dies due to a mosquito bite (kosu kadi)...with a bird feather next to him.

With the music of musician 'Baygon' the first episode ends. Dir. Kakha (myself) have decided to take 125 more episodes to
find the ultimate secret in Krutha,Thretha, Dhvaparam and Kali yugams.

Kaga
Aha! magic dramas by "air"

-------------------

Based on the ideas I get from your discussion...and if CR gets too boring, Kaga shall write up his next episode and present in forum.

From: arunvani on Sat Mar 18 9:35:37 2006.

fanatic wrote:

I've been religiously following Chidambara
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Based on the ideas I get from your discussion...and if CR gets too boring, Kaga shall write up his next episode and present in forum.

WOW. YOU ARE GREAT. IT IS A GREAT IMAGINARY WORK.

From: Naaga on Sat Mar 18 20:45:47 2006.

fanatic wrote:

The next episode in making is Directed by Kaga. It is about finding the cure for the killer disease Bird Flu.

Ellame muttai thaan.....................................................................

ROTFL

ROTFL

ROTFL

ROTFL

Laughing

Laughing

Laughing

Clap

Clap

Clap

Clap

From: detective on Mon Mar 20 12:20:18 2006.

fanatic wrote:

The next episode in making is Directed by Kaga. It is about finding the cure for the killer disease Bird Flu.

Ellame muttai thaan.

So far there are 12 reported cases of bird flu deaths. All those 12 people who died have one thing in common. Theres a bird feather next to each of them when they die.

Awesome... you should sell this to SunTV after the serial is finished, to use it on Top 10 songs on tuesday...

From: AJ on Mon Mar 20 18:51:59 2006. [Full View]

fanatic wrote:

The next episode in making is Directed by Kaga. It is about finding the cure for the killer disease Bird Flu.

Ellame muttai thaan.....

That was funny Good job!

From: vekala on Tue Mar 21 10:20:35 2006.

fanatic wrote:

The next episode in making is Directed by Kaga. It is about finding the cure for the killer disease Bird Flu.

Ellame muttai thaan.
-------------------

Based on the ideas I get from your discussion...and if CR gets too boring, Kaga shall write up his next episode and present in forum.

That's awesome fanatic!

Clap

ROTFL

Great imagination!!!

Thumbs Up!

Looking forward for more episodes!

From: bpbp on Tue Mar 21 20:10:20 2006.

fanatic wrote:

....
Kaga
Aha! magic dramas by "air"

-------------------

Based on the ideas I get from your discussion...and if CR gets too boring, Kaga shall write up his next episode and present in forum.

Wowwwwwwww awesome...

From: singularthing on Wed Mar 22 0:39:09 2006. [Full View]

hi all,
i am new to this forum and this thread, its really amazing that naga sir s part of this thread, more over i am pleased with the efforts of TS. its very helpful for all who have missed some episodes. TS plz continue ur updates

fanatic u clearly made this thread more livelier, (lollu sabha partha effect)

From: arunvani on Wed Mar 22 13:41:13 2006.

arunvani wrote:

bpbp wrote:

In the last episode, PD's sister is asking the doctor to prescribe poison. I guess the real medicine is something to do with the toxic tree....

It is like sword for sword, blood for blood, poison for poisonous killer diseases like L & I.
Dr Thillai has to think that in Siddha medicine, strong compound like Mercury is being used for toughest disease. Here Dr has to realise that sthalavriksham is a toxic tree/poisonous tree and so it is a medicine for L & I.

In today's serial " Ellame poison thaan, coffee is poison, medicine is also poison and poison is also medicine. " Toxic tree ie the sthalavriksham ( blind tree ) is the medicine. When our Dr tHILLAI WILL FIND THIS. ??

From: ts on Thu Mar 23 5:24:58 2006. [Full View]

Granny asks Mani's asst to get the things over to PD's house.There is this new beggar sitting in the thinnai and asks granny to feed him. mani gets offended and asks him if he is not ashamed of asking for food. Granny joins in and asks him the same question. The beggar asks mani a few questions about god and tells him that it is only those who have the guilt in them, who will feel ashamed about things and that he is clean and neednt be ashamed of asking food. He says that it applies to granny also...

Somu is feeding Arthi and Sivakami is pleased about it. Just then Vishnu and Thulasi srrive and vishnu asks permission to come inside. Sivakami welcomes them and Thulasi goes straight to arthi and says sorry. She tells them that she is sorry for whatever her dad did. Somu seems irked and Thulasi tells vishnu that somu is angry. She says sorry to Sivakami and sivakami asks if she would like some coffee. Vishnu says no but Thulasi demands some, saying that coffee is visham but a medicine if taken carefully. Thulasi has coffee and vishnnu asks Somu to keep in touch and they leave. Outside, Tea samiyar stands in the road, blocking their car. Thulasi seems to be frightened to have seen him. They look deep into each other and vishnu interrupts. Tea samiyar comes by the window, shows up his tea glass and asks if coffee is visham. He says that Tea is visham too in that case and that many people have been put to death by visham off late and giggles. Vishnu drives away.

Abirami is doing pooja and Thillai is doing nothing (as usual). He sees an olaichuvadi and tries to read it. He asks abi if she can read it and she tells him that she can read a bit. PDikshitar comes there and Thillai asks him about the chuvadi. PD says that it was a song - kind of a nindana kirthanam, written on Nataraja. Thillai asks him to read it and PD reads it and says that it was pure tamil and in old days they never leave a space between words, thus maaking it a bit difficult to read. He asks Thillai to continue reading but thillai exclaims that he feels that he was wasting time there and wants to go to Vaidheeswaran Koil. PD is shocked to hear that but insists Thillai stays there for a while. He says that the chuvadis went to Vaidheeswaran koil from Chidambaram and Thillai is amazed to hear that. he asks for more details and PD says that Thillai is considered as the centre of the world and thus the siddhars made sure that the chuvadis were left there. Thillai is surprised and asks if the millions of chuvadis (one for each person) were left in that place. PD says that it was not that many but far fewer than that. Thillai is confused. PD says that time is circular, like the world and Thillai is the centre. What goes around comes around and says that for each life, there are many people living it at various times. Thus it is enough that one chuvadi is done for all of them. Thillai doesnt understand. PD says that the chuvadis are created in fill-up-the-blanks style, the names, places, aliments may differ but the pattern is the same for certain set of pepole. Thillai says in that case, there was someone,who was his parallel, who could have found out a cure for aids. PD says that his parallel may not have been seeking cure for aids but for something else and that Thillai would find a cure for Aids/Leukemia at thillai sthalam. TR seems convinced but unsatisfied at the same time. Kamakshi again asks them to give her some poison.

AC is working in his laptop and Natarajan is by his side. a policeman brings editor to the conference room and editor asks AC if the charge sheet is ready and if they want his signature somewhere. AC says that he wants to talk about something else. Editor asks natarajan to apply for bail again as the chargesheet has not been filed yet. Natarajan asks editor to be calm and to have a seat. AC asks editor to cooperate. editor askw what was that all about. he says that he accepts the fact that he was after the 12 regais and 12 nadis and thats as much that he has done. Ac asks about the murders. Editor tells him that he didnt do them and if he was to do them, he wouldnt have paid money to get the regais and leave the witnesses alive...thodarum...
From: crazy on Thu Mar 23 7:11:31 2006. [Full View]

i don't have an idea about who might be the murderer?
From: arunvani on Thu Mar 23 8:02:23 2006. [Full View]

crazy wrote:

i don't have an idea about who might be the murderer?

AKASH???
From: arunvani on Thu Mar 23 8:07:45 2006. [Full View]

[quote="arunvani"]
crazy wrote:

i don't have an idea about who might be the murderer?

AKASH??? [/quote

Why Vishnu is thanking Somu for all the help to catch editor???
Why Vishnu is happy?
From: aanaa on Thu Mar 23 9:15:19 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

...thodarum...

thank you for weekly updating
From: aanaa on Thu Mar 23 9:18:03 2006. [Full View]

arunvani wrote:

Why Vishnu is thanking Somu for all the help to catch editor???
Why Vishnu is happy?

Vishnu always suspects the editor
so he's happy??
From: goldkiddo on Thu Mar 23 9:54:01 2006. [Full View]

Hi Guys!

I have been tracking this forum for quite some time now. I am an avid fan of CR and was desperately searching the net for an update on an episode I missed. That's when I came across this forum. Thanks TS, Detective and others! And great to see Naga posting here too.

Ok . For my 2 cents worth, I really suspect padma. I think he is sort of envious of somu, what with the editor wanting to leave the mag to him and all. So he must be framing somu to get him out of the pic.

Well now I think naga is having a hearty laugh at the way I have been misled...

I also find abi's and granny's insistence on nadis being a fraud a bit sinister. Something like in the movie skeleton key where nothing is supposed to happen to people who have no belief in ghosts.
Real Odd...
From: ts on Thu Mar 23 10:39:28 2006. [Full View]

goldkiddo wrote:

Hi Guys!
Something like in the movie skeleton key where nothing is supposed to happen to people who have no belief in ghosts.
Real Odd...

The part where Caroline paints herself into the trap at the end... something like this is what we are to expect from Naaga...
From: AJ on Thu Mar 23 12:35:32 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Granny asks Mani's asst to get the things over to PD's house....thodarum...

Thanks for the update TS. Thulasi talks about the 3 elements and their significance..I can't quite remember what those 3 elements were, I think one of them was 'Mandhiram'. Can you or someone (Mr. Naga?) throw some light on what she had explained? It was quite interesting.
Thanks.

From: detective on Thu Mar 23 14:03:06 2006.

Tea samiyar stands in the road, blocking their car. Thulasi seems to be frightened to have seen him. They look deep into each other and vishnu interrupts. Tea samiyar comes by the window, shows up his tea glass and asks if coffee is visham. He says that Tea is visham too in that case and that many people have been put to death by visham off late and giggles. Vishnu drives away.

This is the second time Thulasi has done this i.e being shocked at seeing someone, the first being the dumb beggar (what happened to him). And both happened in Vishnu's presence. But, as expected, Vishnu is not curious about it and does not ask her anything about it!!!

What goes around comes around and says that for each life, there are many people living it at various times. Thus it is enough that one chuvadi is done for all of them.

Doesn't that mean all of them have the same fingerprint?? Isn't this the second time this false information is being given? Won't an OB/GYN like Thillai question that??

Kamakshi again asks them to give her some poison.

She even says, "Pretend you are giving me medicene and give me poison". She will probably repeat this sentence in different ways, and one fine day, Thillai would say, "Wait a minute!!! What did you say??? Yes, medicene is poison and poison is medicene!!! singaari dhaan kaavEri, kaavEri dhaan singaari"

From: Naaga on Thu Mar 23 14:18:20 2006.

He says that Tea is visham too in that case and that many people have been put to death by visham off late and giggles.

Sorry TS........he says that it has become a habit for our country to supply visham to the whole world.....(remember.....'the spice as visham produced by the plants to ward of the insects' dialogues........."Someone's poison is someone-else's spice")

Thulasi talks about the 3 elements and their significance..I can't quite remember what those 3 elements were, I think one of them was 'Mandhiram'. Can you or someone (Mr. Naga?) throw some light on what she had explained?

Three things the rishis seem to have worked-on (in the Tharukavanam).........
Jyothisham, Manthiram and Oushadham.

From: Naaga on Thu Mar 23 14:25:07 2006.

detective wrote:

......and one fine day, Thillai would say, "Wait a minute!!! What did you say??? Yes, medicene is poison and poison is medicene!!! singaari dhaan kaavEri, kaavEri dhaan singaari"

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From: AJ on Thu Mar 23 19:42:32 2006.

Naaga wrote:

Three things the rishis seem to have worked-on (in the Tharukavanam).........
Jyothisham, Manthiram and Oushadham.

Thanks for the explanation Mr. Naga.

On a different note, when Mani asks the beggar, "don't you have any feeling of guilt that you are asking for food again, after having eaten just a short while ago?", the beggar replies that even God is guilty...if that weren't the case, why fight over a 'gnana pazham'?
And then he looks at Mani and granny and says, "hence, both of you are guilty too".
I wonder if that means something, or if I'm reading too much between the lines.

From: Naaga on Thu Mar 23 20:11:33 2006.

On a different note, when Mani asks the beggar, "don't you have any feeling of guilt that you are asking for food again, after having eaten just a short while ago?", the beggar replies that even God is guilty...if that weren't the case, why fight over a 'gnana pazham'?
And then he looks at Mani and granny and says, "hence, both of you are guilty too".

Correction AJ, Mani asks the beggar whether he doesnt have any vekkam (can be read as shame, remorse or guilt) to be so selfish..........and the beggar replies who isn't and muses whether God is selfish or not...if he isn't, then why fight over a 'gnana pazham'?

Anybody who understands it will neither have shame nor guilt.

From: AJ on Thu Mar 23 21:25:22 2006.

Naaga wrote:

Correction AJ, Mani asks the beggar whether he doesnt have any vekkam (can be read as shame, remorse or guilt) to be so selfish..........and the beggar replies who isn't and muses whether God is selfish or not...if he isn't, then why fight over a 'gnana pazham'?

Anybody who understands it will neither have shame nor guilt.

Yes, you are right Mr. Naga. I stand corrected.
Thanks for the clarification.

From: bingleguy on Thu Mar 23 23:32:10 2006. [Full View]

Hello all ! Naaga sir ! yeppadi irukeenga ? 3-4 weeks i was totally held up with work ... n missing all the episodes ... but i still know that i can count on TS for the updates !

Naaga sir ... adutha Bangalore trip yeppo ?
From: karthik_rcs on Fri Mar 24 2:59:50 2006. [Full View]

Hello Naga sir,
One small request, Reg,The Song played at the end of the episode

Where the stanzas are taken from ?
Athiyum andamum illada nayaganai
ayirankarathanai....

Suddenly In the middle,kuttram illai ,kuzhapamo illai..
can we get the lyrics, the sound overlaps the lyrics and not able to get it.

Most spiritual series of all. Blend of Thriller, mythology mysteries, fascinating...
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TS: Hello ts, thanks for your updates.
TS reminds me of one character in CR... .Tea Samiyar

heee, just kidding. I really want to thank detective, TS and others for giving great info covering biometrics, TILLAI TREE .
Worth watching ...

Is it possible to get the complete episode and have it
From: aanaa on Fri Mar 24 9:10:42 2006. [Full View]

Naaga wrote:

whether God is selfish or not...if he isn't, then why fight over a 'gnana pazham'?

Anybody who understands it will neither have shame nor guilt.

not only 'gnana pazham'

dance between siva/ Kali - ego?= selfish
and so on

even Thirukkural says - minimum selfish always required
From: ts on Fri Mar 24 9:44:46 2006. [Full View]

According to Hindu mythology, Lord Shiva dances during the creation, protection and destruction of the worlds, though the kind of His dance varies with respect to the action. (Ananda tAnDava, sandhyA tAnDava, Urdhva tANDava, rudra tANDava, samhAra tANDava etc.). The dance of the Lord takes place in every minute particle, for all of us to exist and act. That is the source of all the energy. His movement is shakti. The Ananda Thandavam at Chidambaram was done upon request from Pathanjali and Vyagrapada to see god's blissful dance.

The competition happened at Thiruvalangadu not at Chidambaram. While dancing, the Lord's left ear ring is said to have fallen on the ground, and Shiva without interrupting his dance is said to have caught this ring and lifted it up with his leg back to his ear. Kali being unable to perform this rather masculine gesture accepted defeat. It was done as a lesson to everyone, no matter what their level is, not to get too much to one's head. garvanigraham is what was indicated here.

From: bpbp on Fri Mar 24 18:50:59 2006.

detective wrote:

She even says, "Pretend you are giving me medicene and give me poison". She will probably repeat this sentence in different ways, and one fine day, Thillai would say, "Wait a minute!!! What did you say??? Yes, medicene is poison and poison is medicene!!! singaari dhaan kaavEri, kaavEri dhaan singaari"

That's a good one

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From: arunvani on Sat Mar 25 15:05:18 2006.

Naaga wrote:

Three things the rishis seem to have worked-on (in the Tharukavanam).........
Jyothisham, Manthiram and Oushadham.

Thanks for the explanation Mr. Naga.

On a different note, when Mani asks the beggar, "don't you have any feeling of guilt that you are asking for food again, after having eaten just a short while ago?", the beggar replies that even God is guilty...if that weren't the case, why fight over a 'gnana pazham'?
And then he looks at Mani and granny and says, "hence, both of you are guilty too".
I wonder if that means something, or if I'm reading too much between the lines.

Both Mani and Granny will be guilty of hiding somu's chuvadi.
I dont think him as beggar even though he asks for alm.

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From: kalaavathi on Sun Mar 26 15:47:09 2006. [Full View]

hey,
I am so doubtful on y...abi's dad doesnt really want to allow Dr. Thilai out!!! is he Stopping him from getting to meet the ppl involved in the murder Cases(GOD, somu's dad etc.)??

I also dont understand the logic behind wht Abi's dad says... that many Athama's live the life of each person at different time period...

According to my understanding........Isnt ATHMA the indestructable one...taking rebirth...(so shouldnt the Logic be..tht the ATHMA....lives different lives at different time periods in different names but with pretty much the same basic characteristics)......

I guess NAGA Sir can help me here......
From: jaykayuk on Sun Mar 26 18:36:08 2006. [Full View]

Hi ,
I have just been granted admission into the Hall of Fame CR hub!!
I have recently moved to the UK and missed watching my one and only favourite tamil serial !! So u can imagine my pleasure when I discovered The Hub!!

My heartiest to TS and all others for their wonderful contributions!! It is indeed a bonus to have Naaga sir amongst us. Thank you sir for finding time to interact with us!!

eppadi maathi yosikkalam endru yosithu kondirukkiren!

jaykay
From: bingleguy on Sun Mar 26 23:16:20 2006. [Full View]

Great entry JayKayUK !

Varuga Velga !

From: ts on Mon Mar 27 4:33:35 2006.

kalaavathi wrote:

hey,

I also dont understand the logic behind wht Abi's dad says... that many Athama's live the life of each person at different time period...

According to my understanding........Isnt ATHMA the indestructable one...taking rebirth...(so shouldnt the Logic be..tht the ATHMA....lives different lives at different time periods in different names but with pretty much the same basic characteristics)......

I guess NAGA Sir can help me here......

I think "athmas with similar characteristics, live similar lives" is what was emphasized here. By Similar characteristics, i mean ones who lived similar lives in previous births and whose "karma" is similar.

"na jAyatE mryatEva kadAcci
nyAyam bhUtvA bhavitA vANa bhUyaH
ajO nityaH sAshvatOyam purANOH
na hanyatE hanyamAnE sharIrE" from Bhagavat Gita is what you say... whats said here is a bit different (according to my understanding).

From: Thiruvidai on Mon Mar 27 8:26:57 2006. [Full View]

Hi Friends,

I just joined this forum.

I am based in Singapore and just joined this group. In Singapore , the serial is aired one week later than India. So, I find the updates by TS on this forum very useful. TS , thanks very much.

I also followed the discussion on the possible killer/killers. I would like to contribute to this discussion, by sharing my guess work.

There is no one killer .. These killings(or some may even be genuine
accidental deaths ) are individual events which take place for different
reasons but are connected by the common thread of "medicinal cure for
diseases".

This is as per what is called as "Syncrocity" and "meaningful
coincidences" theory. By using this theory approach, the coincidences
happen in the killing/ accidental deaths with the larger pattern to
establish the medicine for AIDS.

This type of thinking is slightly different from the conventional cause and effect
logic Using this pattern thinking,
we can establish the following.

A. Per the Destiny and as per Naadi, Dr.Thillai Rajan has to find the
Medicine.
B. Presently, he has studied different medicine branch and by normal
life pattern, will not have any motive/inclination to go to Chidambaram
and search for a medicine for this disease.
C. The motive/driving force to get Dr. Thailli Rajan to take action is his
daughter (Aarti)falling sick with the disease.
D. For Aarti to fall sick, she needs to come in contact with people who
are in search of the medicine
E. That will happens when Somu gets to work on Nadi Josiyam and involves her also, which in
turn is because of the deaths he witnesses ..which ls linked with other events
described in the serial..

Thus, a lot of individual events happen which are by themselves
unconnected but fit into a overall big pattern.How does this explain the deaths in the serial?

Let us take the case of small boy by name Somu. Someone intends to kill
either Akash or Mani (Nadi Josiyar).
The food is poisoned. Instead of the person whom it is intended by the
killer, the posion is eaten by the small boy.
By the meaningful coincidence theory, the thumbprint of the boy is taken by
the man with the scar (I forgot his name)just before the boy dies ..
This incident (of thumb print taking) is coincidental to the actual killing but
it serves other connected purposes...like Somu gets to reflect on the killing and finds a clue to suspect the man who brings the food , thereby leading back to the chain
of deaths etc..

Another Example - In this serial , Dr. Thillai rajan finds a few people
who are themselves unconnected and unaware of each other , but by their separate individual acts, contribute to
an unfortunate train accident
From: ts on Mon Mar 27 8:59:14 2006. [Full View]

The Rs.10 man speaks about Chaos theory while talking to Somu about Palani. Dont know if your exlanation can fit into it

From: detective on Mon Mar 27 11:46:12 2006.

Thiruvidai wrote:

There is no one killer .. These killings(or some may even be genuine accidental deaths ) are individual events which take place for different reasons but are connected by the common thread of "medicinal cure for diseases". This is as per what is called as "Syncrocity" and "meaningful coincidences" theory. By using this theory approach, the coincidences happen in the killing/ accidental deaths with the larger pattern to establish the medicine for AIDS. This type of thinking is slightly different from the conventional cause and effect logic

That is a different line of thinking.... and a good one.

If the testimonies of the editor et al are true, it is quite possible that the killings are unrelated. I had a suspicion to that effect and said that in the forum as well. Some, like Natesh Sharma, can be an accident too. And maybe the poison in Little Somu's idli was meant for Mani.

But making the viewers (and cops alike

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) believe for nearly 2 years that the killlings are by one group, though not explicitly, and finally saying otherwise, will be a bland end to the serial.

From: AJ on Mon Mar 27 14:42:13 2006.

detective wrote:

Thiruvidai wrote:

There is no one killer .. These killings(or some may even be genuine accidental deaths ) are individual events which take place for different reasons but are connected by the common thread of "medicinal cure for diseases". ...

That is a different line of thinking.... and a good one.

If the testimonies of the editor et al are true, it is quite possible that the killings are unrelated.....

I find it hard to believe that the murders could be coincidental...most of the victims were poisoned...how can each of those deaths be considered a coincidence?
"Poison" seems to form the basic premise in the serial...Thulasi's research was on poisonous medicine.....most of the deaths were due to poisoning...Thillai is seeking the medicine which is believed to be 'poison'. I am not willing to discount these as mere coincidences.

From: detective on Mon Mar 27 15:35:26 2006.

I find it hard to believe that the murders could be coincidental...most of the victims were poisoned...how can each of those deaths be considered a coincidence?
"Poison" seems to form the basic premise in the serial...Thulasi's research was on poisonous medicine.....most of the deaths were due to poisoning...Thillai is seeking the medicine which is believed to be 'poison'. I am not willing to discount these as mere coincidences.

Good.... We want more people like you ON and OFF the forum.

From: kalaavathi on Mon Mar 27 19:20:25 2006. [Full View]

Thiruvidai seems to have done a really good research......grt work!!!

the theroy of coincidence has to be considered! but 12 deaths.....is a little more than pure coincidence.....also given the fact tht they all die rite after the figure print is taken and when Somu reaches the spot....
mmmm o well...I know you can say ....anything is possible with Coincidence.......But still hard believe.....

also considering all the hard work ppl in this forum did, trying to guess the killer......LOL!!!!Pure coincidence will be a big blow....
From: Thiruvidai on Tue Mar 28 6:43:06 2006. [Full View]

Hi Friends,

Thank you for your kind welcome and for taking the time to review and comment.

Based on TS feedback, I did some searching on the Chaos theory . It turned out to be quite interesting. This theory can be summarized as �small change in initial condition of the system, which causes a chain of events leading to large scale phenomena. The popular example of this theory is that a butterfly flapping its wings creates tiny changes in atmosphere, which could over time cause a tornado to occur.(in theory..)

It also turns out that Chaos theory is now a branch of mathematics and has got lot of practical applications. Since Chaos theory also talks about a chain of events leading to large scale phenomena , it appears to be complimentary to the �meaningful coincidences� theory from the aspect of �chain of events (meaningful coincidences) leading to a large scale phenomena. (overall pattern)

Regarding other friends comments, You are correct that it cannot be �pure coincidence� or �mere coincidence� . I am sorry that my earlier mail was not clear. I was intending to say � meaningful coincidences� with the emphasis on the qualifier �meaningful�. This is very different. If you run a web search on this term, you will find a lot of material on this . It has some mathematical workings too. Typical example is that, in a random selection of twenty-three persons there is a 50 percent chance that at least two of them celebrate the same birthdate.

By the way, I am putting this up to invite more comments /sharing of thoughts from the friends and not to support/ advance the �No single killer� guess.

Another approach we can take is to make a list of the characters whom we suspect to be possible killers and can try to eliminate them based on the information we have so far.
Since I am viewing this site for last 2 months only, not sure if this has already been done. If yes, please help me with the date of posting so I can learn from it.
From: detective on Tue Mar 28 10:53:40 2006. [Full View]

Thiruvidai wrote:

Typical example is that, in a random selection of twenty-three persons there is a 50 percent chance that at least two of them celebrate the same birthdate.

Reminds me of a scene from a very old episode - more than a year ago (so pardon me for minor inaccuracies, if any). One of the victims, Ismail (referenced as mugamadhu in Somu's naadi), says one can connect any two persons in the world, with just 3 other people between them. For ex, he says, the mechanic working on his bike can be linked to Bill Gates, with just 3 other people between them: Mechanic knows his boss, the boss is a friend of Ismail, Ismail's friend works in MSFT and he knows Gates personally. So with just 3 other people (his own boss, Ismail and Ismail's friend in MSFT), the mechanic boy can be linked to Gates and the chain is complete.

Point is: Several such theories are thrown in the serial here and there. Is there any connection between any of those and the serial?? Only time will tell. Same things applies to the ramblings of the ragamuffins.

From: singularthing on Tue Mar 28 23:52:51 2006.

detective wrote:

Thiruvidai wrote:

Typical example is that, in a random selection of twenty-three persons there is a 50 percent chance that at least two of them celebrate the same birthdate.

Point is: Several such theories are thrown in the serial here and there. Is there any connection between any of those and the serial?? Only time will tell. Same things applies to the ramblings of the ragamuffins.

gr8 research by thiruvidai and detective, plz continue ur contributions,

As far as i am concern, i am suspicious on thillai also, but as detective said only time will tell.

the real challenge of these type of trillers is not to allow the viewers to predict the killer or killers correctly and confindently, i think, so far naaga sir had a gr8 success in this

Clap

. hope he will give gr8 climax like in the movie 'SAW'

From: eezee on Wed Mar 29 14:19:47 2006.

Thiruvidai wrote:

Hi Friends,

It also turns out that Chaos theory is now a branch of mathematics and has got lot of practical applications. Since Chaos theory also talks about a chain of events leading to large scale phenomena , it appears to be complimentary to the �meaningful coincidences� theory from the aspect of �chain of events (meaningful coincidences) leading to a large scale phenomena. (overall pattern)

Typical example is that, in a random selection of twenty-three persons there is a 50 percent chance that at least two of them celebrate the same birthdate.

I had this thought of all murders being unrelated. Like take for instance the killing of Pazhani, he had an issue with Lorry Drivers so he was knocked down deliberately and not with the context of him having Naadi cure for Aids and so we can tell about two or three murders. On the contrary, atleast more than three murders are due to oxytoxin. To go down from a more generic "poison deaths" to a lot more specific poison of oxytoxin being used made me think they are probably not unrelated.

But "meaningful coincidences" may just be the factor and I think Naga has already given more than one clue to that effect when PD explains that "its not that these 12 ppl will lead to the cure but those 12 ppl should be encountered through Thillai is what is important". Also, through that train deaths he probably hinted this effect.

I wanted to cite an example which we tried. We had a class of 200 ppl and it was considered a waste of time trying to check attendances for each one of them (not to mention ppl from different nationalities and so pronounciation is next to impossible) so we used this statistical tool, we created a program to randomly choose 25 names and according to the "theory" if 10 ppl didnt make it to the class, the chances were, 5 of their names would be in the 20. Believe me and I am not lying, we got better results.

From: rami on Thu Mar 30 6:52:18 2006. [Full View]

There are atleast 2 hubbers who are related to Chidambara rahasiyam ...
1. Naaga
2. Mohanram..

who else pa?
From: detective on Thu Mar 30 11:31:24 2006. [Full View]

AC continues to interrogate Mr.Kumaraguru. He asks KG how he zeroed in on his victims, when there are so many Manoharans and Muhammeds. KG says he did it through Somu. He hears Somu talk about one person after the other on that list, exactly in that order. We see B/W clippings of those scenes, where KG hears (directly and indirectly) Somu talk about those people. For the first time, AC is not convinced and questions like a real policeman. He asks how KG was sure it was the correct Manoharan and correct Perumal. Then KG says a particular line was repeated in the medical chapter (my translation of maruththuva kaaNdam) of all those people, and that was when how was sure. He also says little Somu was the only exception, and that was when he thought that Big Somu could be the Soma Eesan on that list. So he tries to safeguard Somu, as everyone on that list gets killed, and also tries to get his naadi. He learns from Anbarasu that Akash has it, but before he could pursue that further, he gets apprehended.

AC then asks where the suvadis are, to which KG refuses to answer. AC asks him to at least reveal what the repeated line is, and KG refuses again. AC says cure to AIDS is public property and KG cannot use it just for personal purposes. But KG says it becomes personal property only after Thulasi uses it and regains her life, and until then, it is his property (not sure what he means by this). So AC says he will be filing the chargesheet the next day, suspecting KG on all 12 murders. KG says some punch-dialogue (ala Sivagaasi) and leaves.

Akash is kodanjufying the entire house looking for Somu's naadi. Granny tells him he will never find it; nor will she give it to him. She refuses to give a reason. While searching a wooden cupboard, some heavy things fall on Akash's feet and cuts his skin. Granny then says this is all because of the naadi. She says her FIL had warned her that this suvadi will come out one day, and will cause lot of bloodshed. Granny says she cannot see anymore bloodshed and hence will not allow the suvadi to come out again. Akash goes to his room.

Mani, who has been watching the entire episode, tries to get the suvadi from Granny. He says he wants it because his name was on it, and it curious about it. Granny shooes him away as well. When Mani comes out, the beggar outside starts his nonsense. He says nobody can eat without killing somebody. All plants have life and so even vegetarians kill for food, he says. He also says we kill millions of microorganisms just by breathing. He then asks Mani, how many people has he killed. Mani has a weird expression on his face, but does not answer. The beggar completes saying only God can keep count of how many lives he has killed, and His count is always correct.

Abirami enters the house and learns about Akash's feet. Granny tells her it is all because of that naadi. Abirami suggests Granny should give the naadi to her, so that she can throw it in a lake. But Granny doesn't budge. She in turns suggests that Abirami should take Akash to her house, as Akash is restless there. Abirami says she asked Akash several times, but Akash refused saying he will go only after their wedding. Granny accuses both Akash and Abirami of hiding something...........

thodarum......
From: jaykayuk on Thu Mar 30 11:37:00 2006. [Full View]

sorry I seem to have overlooked posts by Mohanram. Can someone enlighten me pls
From: AJ on Thu Mar 30 13:19:19 2006. [Full View]

detective wrote:

AC continues to interrogate Mr.Kumaraguru. ...
thodarum......

Granny asks Akash why he is so interested in reading the olais, now that everything is over and the culprit has been arrested. Akash says he wants to write a book about all this, and such a story will fetch lakhs of dollars abroad. Grany says even if it fetches crores, she will not give him the olais.
From: Naaga on Thu Mar 30 13:50:56 2006. [Full View]

detective wrote:

KG says some punch-dialogue (ala Sivagaasi) and leaves.

rami wrote:

There are atleast 2 hubbers who are related to Chidambara rahasiyam ...
1. Naaga
2. Mohanram..

who else pa?

Athaane!...........anybody else pa?

From: detective on Thu Mar 30 14:54:07 2006.

Granny asks Akash why he is so interested in reading the olais, now that everything is over and the culprit has been arrested. Akash says he wants to write a book about all this, and such a story will fetch lakhs of dollars abroad. Grany says even if it fetches crores, she will not give him the olais.

Thanks, AJ. That slipped through the cracks.......

From: aanaa on Thu Mar 30 19:09:27 2006. [Full View]

has to wait to find the real killer
but akhash - needs all finger prints for his office work
-opening the door ?
collecting in computer ?
From: rami on Fri Mar 31 6:40:45 2006. [Full View]

jaykayuk wrote:

sorry I seem to have overlooked posts by Mohanram. Can someone enlighten me pls

As replied by MohanRam C&Pd here

"I stick to a few forums(if that is the plural though fora is probably correct.) like nadigar thilakam, old tamil serials etc.
As the creator is himself here, interacting with this lovely audience, I stick my nose elsewhere.In fact a few discussions in the indian history section are so filled with hate and divisiveness that I refrain from participating in most subjects.....Tamils vs Sanskrits, vedics
vs god knows what....even a string bashing poor kattabomman, not on historic facts only, but using a lot of personal bias/prejudice etc.....I find the participants of the chidambara rahasiyam thread to be a very amiable and knowledgeable lot...even "detective" who at times appears abrasive does a lot of original thinking.My best wishes to all.......and as Naga is part of this, let us all pat ourselves on the back....and all of us YOU."...............
From: jaykayuk on Fri Mar 31 11:06:04 2006. [Full View]

Thank you rami
From: crazy on Fri Mar 31 12:09:25 2006. [Full View]

i guess thulasi is the culprit!
maybe she is pretending as if she is sick!(innncent)
From: aanaa on Sat Apr 1 10:41:28 2006. [Full View]

crazy wrote:

i guess thulasi is the culprit!
maybe she is pretending as if she is sick!(innncent)

could be
another angle
From: crazy on Sat Apr 1 11:27:52 2006. [Full View]

i even think that there is somebody from germany who is behind all those murders!
they heard about thulasi's research and wants to get the cure for aids before her!(it sounds weird, but anything is possible)

who knows, heaven knows
no naga knows!

From: arunvani on Sat Apr 1 14:38:51 2006.

crazy wrote:

i even think that there is somebody from germany who is behind all those murders!
they heard about thulasi's research and wants to get the cure for aids before her!(it sounds weird, but anything is possible) Laughing

Laughing

who knows, heaven knows
no naga knows!

You may be surprized that Germany has a lot of Tamil olaichuvadi's on Siddha medinces. Your point directs the suspision to Vishnu, who came from Germany all of a sudden and staying with Thulasi who is ex-wife. What for he came is not explained.

From: crazy on Sat Apr 1 14:46:33 2006.

arunvani wrote:

crazy wrote:

i even think that there is somebody from germany who is behind all those murders!
they heard about thulasi's research and wants to get the cure for aids before her!(it sounds weird, but anything is possible) Laughing

Laughing

who knows, heaven knows
no naga knows!

You may be surprized that Germany has a lot of Tamil olaichuvadi's on Siddha medinces. Your point directs the suspision to Vishnu, who came from Germany all of a sudden and staying with Thulasi who is ex-wife. What for he came is not explained.

u must be kidding?really? i know there is a quite an amount of tamil ppl but not suvadis, maybe these tamils brought their suvadis there after reading their olai's in india?!

Rolling Eyes

From: rein on Sat Apr 1 19:54:45 2006. [Full View]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you guys just said that Akash wanted to write a book about the whole thing, right? I don't know, something abt Akash wanting to make more money after living in his grandma's house and understanding the old way is a bit disturbing.

I'm not sure, maybe it's Akash or someone is following Akash and granny knows this( hence her refusal to allow Akash to continue his quest!) I mean why would Akashes(in binary) name be written in Somu's olai. I still need to know how they are connected to each other!
From: Sadhana on Mon Apr 3 1:26:14 2006. [Full View]

I am not sure where the serial stands at this point in India. I get to watch a collection of them once a month and therefore some of the things I might have observed would be outdated. Anyhow, here are a few of my observations and questions that might open up discussions...

- Vishnu is definitely involved in this somehow. The person that comes to get Agash's photograph from Prabhu is not shown but part of his back and right hand is shown. It looks very much like that of Vishnu's... what do you people think?

- Akash is not keen on making money out of this but that was just a ploy to get his grandma to give him the Suvadi's. But Akash does have a secret agenda of his own as far as him and Abirami are concerned. Why is he hesitating to go to her house?

- Either grandma is hiding something or she is simply concerned about Akash's well being. It is still a mystery of some sort up to the point I have watched the serial.

- Dr. Thillai is for sure going to find Somu's Suvadi which has the last bit of information about the medicine. However, I wonder if he would actually take it to Chennai to publish it to the world as I think it might pose a threat to Somu's life and he might actually decide to leave it behind at Chithamparam. I say this because, grandma once said the Suvadi would see a lot of bloodshed between the times it comes out and goes in. Therefore, there is a high chance all this would remain a "ragasiyam" to the end and might not be revealed to all. On the other hand, the doctor might use it only for his daughter and will choose to not reveal it to anyone else. Yes, it is very selfish on his part but lately I notice that many characters say things that justifies one of being selfish...

Ahh... it is all a mystery
From: ts on Mon Apr 3 4:39:30 2006. [Full View]

Naaga wrote:

Athaane!...........anybody else pa?

Joyson's (Vishnu) wife Priya did a few posts here. Dont know if she can be considered for the head count
From: aanaa on Mon Apr 3 8:18:16 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Joyson's (Vishnu) wife Priya did a few posts here. Dont know if she can be considered for the head count

how come we got ???
From: mirunmanish on Mon Apr 3 9:34:47 2006. [Full View]

i just feel naaga is trying to increase the number of wpisodes than coming to an end. it is really boring these days showing so many unneccessary scenes & wasting time(like that always coughing lady in chidambaram).i wish he concludes the serial as early as possible.it is becoming like a mega serial

Manish
From: goldkiddo on Mon Apr 3 11:33:34 2006. [Full View]

I was just googling for aids and siddha and came upon this interesting link

http://www.healthmantra.com/siddha/siddha2.htm

And there somewhere at the bottom of the page you find "thillai"

Will someone get the doc to take a boat ride out to pichavaram?
He is likely to stumble upon some tillai bushes there.

From: AJ on Mon Apr 3 12:49:07 2006.

goldkiddo wrote:

I was just googling for aids and siddha and came upon this interesting link

http://www.healthmantra.com/siddha/siddha2.htm

And there somewhere at the bottom of the page you find "thillai"

Will someone get the doc to take a boat ride out to pichavaram?
He is likely to stumble upon some tillai bushes there.

Good find goldkiddo. A search on the botanical name of thillai which is Excoecaria agallocha yielded this interesting link
http://www.naturia.per.sg/buloh/plants/blind%20your%20eye.htm
which talks about its unique colored leaves - bright red (Thulasi made an origami once of a golden leaf and a red leaf) and the site also mentions the plant's anti-HIV and anti-cancer properties. It's a mangrove tree and as you mentioned grows in Pichavaram in Tamilnadu.

From: Naaga on Mon Apr 3 13:24:52 2006.

goldkiddo wrote:

Will someone get the doc to take a boat ride out to pichavaram?
He is likely to stumble upon some tillai bushes there.

Good find goldkiddo. A search on the botanical name of thillai which is Excoecaria agallocha yielded this interesting link
http://www.naturia.per.sg/buloh/plants/blind%20your%20eye.htm
which talks about its unique colored leaves - bright red (Thulasi made an origami once of a golden leaf and a red leaf) and the site also mentions the plant's anti-HIV and anti-cancer properties. It's a mangrove tree and as you mentioned grows in Pichavaram in Tamilnadu.

Just returned from Chidambaram and Pichavaram...........and here you guys are discussing Thillai and Pichavaram!!!............."meaningful coincidence", eh?

BTW, it seems that there were a couple of saplings of the thillai planted in Chidambaram temple's nandavanam near the North Gopuram sometime back. They were standing a good six feet till 20 days back........

Guess what!!......they were cut down (in the name of cleaning-up) just before the Kumbabishekam by a drunk, reckless worker of the temple......even though he was warned by the old man who takes care of the nandavanam to be careful about them (The old man had some of the choicest of expletives for him as he narrated it). So........still, there is no Sthalavriksham at Chidambaram temple.

There are some Thillai trees in Pichavaram.....a mangrove forest near chidambaram. It is a declared "reserved forest". So, if you are caught plucking leaves, you could be fined an amount of Rs.500/- per leaf......so says the forest personnel who was manning the boating area inside.

And guess what, we found a large belt of thillai trees on both the sides of the road enroute to Cuddalore from Chidambaram........

Anybody travelling from Chidambaram to Cuddalore, look-out for a railway crossing midway...........cross it........stop.....all those trees along the track are thillai.....just be careful with the sap......(it can blind you or atleast give you a rash if it touches your skin.)

From: vekala on Mon Apr 3 14:10:21 2006. [Full View]

Thanks goldkiddo , AJ and Naga for so much info on Thillai.
This serial seems to drag many to a real quest!!!
From: rein on Mon Apr 3 21:31:05 2006. [Full View]

u know what we are all crazy. To be actually looking up the properties of these plants and then to go read up on it, God what a bunch obsessed ppl we are.

and Naga Sir, if you just went to pichivipuram to look for thillai trees, how will that translate to when Dr. Thillai will go see them, will he see them in an episode next month, the month after that? Baggghhhh... I'm getting soo frustrated, could you please stop torturing us so and put an end to our misery, I mean, we've are obviously dedicated fans and will watch whatever else you make ( even if decide to take up the Avian flu virus episodes with Kaaga) but can you conclude this one soon?

From: ts on Tue Apr 4 5:10:59 2006.

rein wrote:

u know what we are all crazy. To be actually looking up the properties of these plants and then to go read up on it, God what a bunch obsessed ppl we are.

and Naga Sir, if you just went to pichivipuram to look for thillai trees, how will that translate to when Dr. Thillai will go see them, will he see them in an episode next month, the month after that? Baggghhhh... I'm getting soo frustrated, could you please stop torturing us so and put an end to our misery, I mean, we've are obviously dedicated fans and will watch whatever else you make ( even if decide to take up the Avian flu virus episodes with Kaaga) but can you conclude this one soon?

I cant help but think of the proverb "arasa marathai suthittu adi vayitha thottu pArthALAm...." . Patience is the virtue...

Pun intended.. no offense meant.

From: bingleguy on Tue Apr 4 6:48:09 2006. [Full View]

That was an info to be noted Naaga sir .... will look for it when i travel from Chidambaram to Cuddalore
From: Thiruvidai on Tue Apr 4 8:06:10 2006. [Full View]

detective wrote:

Point is: Several such theories are thrown in the serial here and there. Is there any connection between any of those and the serial?? Only time will tell.

That is very true. I agree with Detective�s point. As the story evolves, we will come to know more information in due course of time.That brings up another point on the topic of �Guessing the Killer/Killers�.

As the story evolves, if the creative team wishes to, they may even make dynamic changes to the story line. I say this because one of my interests is on interactive story telling models and mathematical algorithms . Without boring you with lot of theory like �plot based story telling� �Character based story telling�etc., will try to summarize it as follows.

What we have with us is a set of information/facts, as told to us at this point of time. If they wish to, the creative team may do any of the following actions, as part of their story line development or to provide a change/ twist to the story line.

a. Providing higher order information.

In this method, new information is provided which is of a higher order, than what is provided till now. How this works? Example below.

Higher order information - X (Any one of the characters shown in the serial) is part of an international gang which comes to know of the Olaisuvadi through Tulasi�s posting in the net and is looking to get this medicine.

With this higher order information, many of the happenings can be explained as follows. Since it is international gang, they are trailing Somu, eavesdropping on Editor�s phone etc., killing all the people after taking the fingerprint.(International gangs are supposed to be resourceful, right!)

X could be anyone � Akash, Tulasi, her husband , Mani Josier, Abhirami�s father , any of the men employed by the scar mark man, even Somu�s father (if another new fact is presented that he was threatened about Somu�s life if he did not cooperate).

This approach has many variations, including not just having one X as the killer but 2 or 3 characters as part of the gang.

B. Changing/ creating new Inter relationship behavior rules for characters

Here, if two/ three characters are shown to act together which was not known earlier (example- Akash and Tulasi husband know each other from when they were abroad and are working together hand in glove), a whole new set of possibilities exist.

C. Change of state - from �True� to �False�

For example, if Editor can be shown as lying (under some pressure like a threat to his daughter or deliberately), then a whole new set of possibilities open up. Variation in this approach is a sub threaded change (two of editor�s accomplices form a separate alliance and are doing all these activities, without the Editor�s knowledge and are simply lying during the police interrogation). After all, there is no rule that , what the characters are saying is �True� always.

Hence, there are many possibilities that exist from a theoretical point and even if the plot and its ending has been already fixed by the creative team which produces the serial, (without planning to make any dynamic changes), there is no certainty of making a correct guess until the final episode.

While mathematics and algorithms can predict many variations and storylines, there are only a few variations which will appeal to the audience and this is where the success of the creative team comes, in keeping its audience engaged and absorbed in the serial. (which no computer/mathematics can accomplish). Going by the interest shown in this forum, the creative team of this serial seem to be it doing it great.

From: goldkiddo on Tue Apr 4 8:26:20 2006.

Naaga wrote:

There are some Thillai trees in Pichavaram.....a mangrove forest near chidambaram. It is a declared "reserved forest". So, if you are caught plucking leaves, you could be fined an amount of Rs.500/- per leaf......so says the forest personnel who was manning the boating area inside.

Embarassed

So picking leaves at pichavaram is unlawful. Now we don't want the doc in trouble, do we?
Ok let's wait for him to take a trip to cuddalore by road.

And thanks Mr. Naga for the update on the cdm temple tree. Trees inside temples are supposed to be sacred. People worship them, right? Very callous to let someone chop it down.

From: goldkiddo on Tue Apr 4 8:51:02 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

I cant help but think of the proverb "arasa marathai suthittu adi vayitha thottu pArthALAm...." . Patience is the virtue...

ts is right. This is the only serial that makes us think. Why not enjoy each episode?

Where every other serial on tv is just a different combination of sugar syrup and onion juice, CR is like fine wine.
So sip and swirl!
Not to be gulped like sarayam
From: pavalamani pragasam on Tue Apr 4 9:36:27 2006. [Full View]

How lucky the Hub is to attract the serial personalities here with their interesting postings!!!
From: nacdaman on Tue Apr 4 12:50:24 2006. [Full View]

did you finalize the entire script before starting the first episode. I mean di you know how many episodes you were going to shoot etc. The reason that i am asking is here in the u.s there are some shows that started off and then became a huge hit and the writers extended the show for 2 more seasons by changing the story line etc. Do you do that??

Also do you reveal the entire plot to the cast / lead characters??? Or are they as curious as us fans

I personally feel , CR was slacking in between and has picked up pace of late.

Enjoying the Rahasyam

Nachi
From: fanatic on Tue Apr 4 16:27:18 2006. [Full View]

Being ardent forum members we decided to publish the next weeks episode on popular demand.
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அடுத்த வாரம் வரவிருக்கும்(எப்போதும்) 'சிதம்பர ரகசியத்தின்' உரையாடல்கள்.(காட்சி அமைப்புகள் கூட).

ஆகாஷ் பாட்டி - வாடாப்பா..சித்த இரு..நான் போய் காப்பி எடுதுண்ட்டு வரேன்..நீ எத்தனை தடவை கேட்டாலும் நான் 'அதை'ப் பற்றி சொல்ல மாட்டேன்..(ஏன்னா என்க்கே 'அது' தெரியாது)..

பிச்சைக்காரன் 1 - கிரீம் பிஸ்கட்டில் கிரீம் இருக்கும்.நாய் பிஸ்கட்டில் நாய் இருக்காது! யோசி..பிரிட்ஜில லைட் எரியுதுன்னு அங்கே போய் இரந்து படிக்க முடியுமா? யோசி.

குடோனில்(அதாவது போலீஸ் ஸடேசன்). - ஒரு 40 வாட்ஸ் பல்பு கீழ்..எடிட்டர் உட்கார்ந்திருக்கிறார்.

ஆரியபாதம் - சொல்லுங்க குமரகுரு ஏன் இப்படி பண்ணீங்க??

இந்த கேள்வியைக் கேட்ட உடன் ஒரு 'அஜீரண' எபக்ட்டில் ,முடி எல்லாம் சிலிர்த்து ஒரு லுக் விடுகிறார் எடிட்டர்.

குமரகுரு - நான் ஏன் அப்படி பண்ணணும் ??

ஆரியபாதம் - So .நீங்க இதை பண்ணலை...

(இந்த நேரத்தில் நம்ம Regan ஒரு 'சங்கு' எபக்ட்டில் ஒரு சவு்டு விடறார்..அதே நேரத்தில் நம்ம கேமரா ஒரு 360+180+360 ஆங்கிளில் திரும்பி ஒரு வாட்டர் பாட்டில் பக்கம் வந்து நிற்கும்).

அபிராமி(கதாநாயகி!!) - ஏன்னா..(ஆகாஷைப் பார்த்து) உங்களுக்கு தோஷம் இருகுன்னு என்னோட தோப்பனாருடைய குருவோட கொள்ளுத்தாவோட சின்ன மாமனார் அடிக்கடி சொல்லுவார்..அது இப்போ உண்மையாடுத்துதே..இருங்கோ போய் விக்ஸ் எடுத்துண்டு வரேன்...(ஜல தோஷத்திற்கு)..

ஆகாஷ்(மனதிற்குள் சந்திரமுகி பிரபு ஸ்டைலில்) - என்ன கொடுமைda இது..எங்கயாவது ஒரு America ரிடனுக்கு இப்படி ஒரு ஜோடியா??

தீட்ச்சதர் (தில்லைராஜனைப் பார்த்து) - அரிசி கொட்டினா வேற அரிசி வாங்கலாம்... பால் கொட்டினா வேற பால் வாங்கலாம்.. ஆனா தேள் கொட்டினா வேற தேள் வாங்க முடியாது. டீ கப்ல டீ இருக்கும்.. ஆனா வேர்ல்டு கப்ல வேர்ல்டு இருக்காது. இவ்ளோதான் உலகம்..புரிஞ்சுக்கோங்கோ(என்னா நாகா சார் டயலாக்கை கரெக்டா சொல்லிட்டேனா ? )

அந்த சமயம் தீட்சதரின் சகோதரி... - அண்ணா விஷம் கொடுங்கண்ணா...

தீட்சதர் - இவ பண்ணிண பாயாசம் பத்து நாள் ஆனா பாய்சன் ஆயிடும்... ஆனா பாய்சன் பத்து நாள் ஆனாலும் பாயாசம் ஆக முடியாது.

இதைக் கேட்டதும் தில்லை ராஜன் ஏதோ புரிந்தது போல விரல்களை வைத்து 'கணக்கு' போடுகிறார்.

தில்லைராஜன் - நீங்க சொல்லறத்து கரெக்்டுதான்..அது..வந்து ..இப்போ எஞ்சினியர் காலேஜ்ல படிச்சிட்டு எஞ்சினியர் ஆகலாம். பிரசிடென்சி காலேஜ்ல படிச்சிட்டு பிரசிடெண்ட் ஆகமுடியுமா?

பத்மராஜன்(அழுது கொண்டே) - உன்க்கு நான் இருக்கேன்மா..நீ எதுக்கும் கவலைப்படாதே..இந்த அண்ணன் காலம் முழுக்க வச்சு காப்பாத்துவேன்..

நாகா - கட்.. கட்..டேய்..[b]மலர்கள்[/b] சீரியலில் பேசற டயலாக்கை இங்க பேசாதே..(மனதிற்குள்) இதான்பா பல சீரியல்கள நடிகறவன் போட்டா வர தொல்லை...

Forum Members(Afer this serial)

Member
பாயசம்,பாயசன்..ஏதோ மேட்டர் இருக்க்கு..நீங்க நல்லா பார்த்தீங்கனா ஒன்னு புரியும்..தில்லை விரல்களை ஆட்டி ஒரு சைகை பண்ணுவார்..அதுல ஒரு க்ளு இருக்கு...

நாகா(வடிவேலு டைலில்): ஆகா..கெளம்பிட்டாங்கய்யா...கெளம்பிட்டாங்கய்யா

Member 2 - தேள் கொட்டும் அப்படினு தீட்சதர் சொன்னார்..நான் என்ன நினக்கிறேனா..எல்லா கொலையையும் பண்ணினது தேள் தான் அதைத்தான் தீட்சதர் சொல்லாமல் சொல்லறார்.

Member 3 - கண்டிப்பாக தேள் இருக்க முடியாது ஏன்னா நாயைப் ப்தியும் சொல்லியிருகிறாரே..

நாகா(வடிவேலு ஸ்டைலில்) - இப்படியே உசுப்பேத்தி உசுப்பேத்தி ரணகளம் ஆக்கிட்டாங்கய்யா...

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Thodarum.....

Hope this discussion provides ideas for the future episodes. Not sure how to end the same though.

Hoping the forum members can read the same in tamil....if any difficulty I shall publish the same in english.

-Kaagha
Ellame muttai thaan
From: detective on Tue Apr 4 16:50:32 2006. [Full View]

fanatic wrote:

Being ardent forum members we decided to publish the next weeks episode on popular demand.

Once again, ROTFL....

BTW, can someone give easy instructions on how to post with tamil characters??
From: aanaa on Tue Apr 4 17:00:07 2006. [Full View]

Naaga wrote:

Guess what!!......they were cut down (in the name of cleaning-up) just before the Kumbabishekam by a drunk, reckless worker of the temple.)

ruining our fortune

Friend of mine - keeps telling :

"we tamilians - are sitting in a hut over the golden piles."

donot know the value of our treasures - (
From: aanaa on Tue Apr 4 17:05:55 2006. [Full View]

rein wrote:

but can you conclude this one soon?

Since Naga is here
u r requesting -unfavourable ???

Naga - professionally done - keep it up!!
From: aanaa on Tue Apr 4 17:10:51 2006. [Full View]

the list: real name ------------ charactors
-----------------------------
Abirami ------------ Abirami
Arun ------------ Mohammed Ismail
Arunadevi ------------ Dr. Mangayarkarasi
Ashok ------------ Armugam
Barani ------------ Mahadvan
Baskar- �Kunrathur� ------------ Savarimuthu
Devadarshini ------------ Thulasi
George ------------ nandan
Gnanam - Bombay ------------ Visalakshi (Akash�s Patti)
Gnanavel ------------ reddunna enna ?
Joyson ------------ Vishnu
Kannan ------------ Pirabu
Kannan - villan ------------ Seethapathi
Krishna ------------ Somu
MahendranYG ------------ Thillairajan
Malavika ------------ Thulasi
Manickaraj ------------ Natarajn
Menon-Bijoy ------------ Adiyapatham
Mohan Raman ------------ Kumaraguru
Mohan Vydya ------------ Natsh sarma
Murali ------------ Palani
Nagaladsmy ------------ Kammadsi
Natarajan - vappa ------------ tea samyar
Nithiya Ravendar ------------ Sivagami
Prithvija ------------ Archana
Raghavendar ------------ Parameswara Dikshitar
Rajkumar Roy ------------ Oomai
Ramachandran ------------ Mani (naadi josyar)
Ranjith ------------ Akash
Ravi ------------ Manohar
Ravi Kanth ------------ Perumal reddy
Sadasivam ------------ father Arumainayagam
Santhanam ------------ Parameswara Dikshitar
sathyamoorthy ------------ pathurupa man
Sathyendra ------------ ellame koduthan- ?
Shanmugam ------------ Isakki
Shekar ------------ Kanthan
Soniya ------------ kannamma
Sorna ------------ Arthi
Sundar-�Ponmalai� ------------ Mukilan
Sureshwar ------------ Padmarajan
vallinayagam ------------ vathiyar - sankaran
Viji Kanna ------------ Nandini
yuan-tsang ------------ ponnampalam
From: aanaa on Tue Apr 4 17:23:10 2006. [Full View]

detective wrote:

BTW, can someone give easy instructions on how to post with tamil characters??

either u need TSC font family or unicode

1. TSC avalaible for free at
http://www.murasu.com/
or
http://thamizha.com/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=3
or
http://www.kuralsoft.com/
or
http://www.tamil.net/tscii/tools.html

2. unicode family - comes with windows Xp

all available with help file
for murasu
http://www.murasu.com/help/
for kural
http://www.kuralsoft.com/download_e.htm

enjoy tamil reading/writing
From: RR on Wed Apr 5 6:30:08 2006. [Full View]

[quote="detective"]
fanatic wrote:

BTW, can someone give easy instructions on how to post with tamil characters??

detective,
A brief tutorial on posting in tamil is here: http://forumhub.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?t=57
From: rein on Wed Apr 5 10:08:25 2006. [Full View]

I don't know I don't necessarily want the serial to end, I just don't want the integrity of the show to be gone, I'm just concerned that if we continue going through this cycle of Inspector asking questions and getting no where and Patty never giving the chuvadu, and Dr. Thillai not figuring out the link btwn poison, how can we continue on?

So let me rephrase, I don't want it to end immediately, I'm just frustrated. I mean so far Naaga sir has done an amazing job, but I'm just concerned that if we keep at this pace, it may not. Besides, it's not like this story will never end, he will eventually have to end it, and since we are ardent fans, like I said, even if he decides to take up the story of Kaga and Killi josiyam we will watch it, that's all.

I'm not trying to upset anyone, just expressing my feelings.
From: aanaa on Wed Apr 5 17:59:38 2006. [Full View]

rein wrote:

he will eventually have to end it,

I'm not trying to upset anyone, just expressing my feelings.

understand your feeling/concern

as u said everything has come to an end....
matter of time
waiting ...
From: crazy on Thu Apr 6 3:18:42 2006. [Full View]

fanatic that was so funny
From: ts on Thu Apr 6 5:37:39 2006. [Full View]

The annoying beggar drags mani outside of the thinnai, takes him to the hand pump in the street an and asks him to pump water saying he is hungry. He takes a shower when a passerby tells them that the mami in the neighbourhood had committed suicide. Mani runs to the house and it is Little Somu's mum hanging from the ceiling. Mani is in utter shock and locals gather. Beggar runs into Akash's house and tells them of the news. Granny, Akash and Abi go to check up on her. Little Somu's dad is in shock and speaks incoherently. Granny asks Akash to take him away and Akash brings him to the thinnai. Beggar asks Akash to go inside and tells him that he will take care of the man. He asks the man to be left alone. Mani gets up to leave and beggar asks him to stay. He tells mani that he has to realise how is it to lose a wife. He asks Somu's dad to cry and the man starts to sob. Mani cant stand it and gets up but the beggar insists that he stats and tells him that the josiyar has to witness the Athma seperate and tells him that he has to see it. The man tells mani that he knew Somu was not his son but he always treated somu as his own son and had saved 300k for him. Mani is shocked to hear that .. seems mani has a part to play here, being Somu's biological dad...

Somu is wandering in the portico. Rs 10 man is in the street and he sees SOmu and greets him. Somu asks him if he did not get any poison. The man tells somu that it is a long story and asks him to come down. SOmu comes to the front of the house. The man gives him Rs 10 and says that it is the money that Somu gave him. Somu asks him if he did not get poison to kill himself. The man tells him that noone was ready to give him the poison but it was because f the poison that he is alive. He seems to be well and dressed okay. Somu asks him about that. The man tells him that he was suffering from Cancer and the doctors gave him a date. He lost his job and came out of the house and was suffering from severe stomach pain. He couldnt get the poison from anyone and finally got something from an Irula. This poison was made from a green sea snake, a red desert scorpion and few other ingredients and supposed to be very potent that it can kill an elephant in an instant. The man says that he had taken the poison and slept for 3 days. When he woke up, his stomach ache was gone and the doctors told him that there was no sign of the disease. Archana and Sivakami come out of the house and Archana tells them that it was her ex physics teacher. The man tells Archana that he was off to school for an interview and starts to leave. The tea samiyar confronts him at the gate and asks him to give him the poison. The man refuses and tea samiyar pesters him and goes behind him.

KG is back at the conference room and the AC informs that the charge sheet is ready. Natarajan tells him that he has been included as suspect for all 12 murders. AC interrupts and askas KG about how he found out of the 12 people (araicha maavu this...) KG tells him the same story and concludes by saying that true events are stranger than fiction. AC says that the judges may not buy his stories about "all that happened was a mere coincidence". KG chuckles and tells the AC that if something strange like this had happened to the judge, he would belive the so called stories...

Thodarum.
From: crazy on Thu Apr 6 6:12:07 2006. [Full View]

thank ts for ur updates!
From: vekala on Thu Apr 6 10:12:49 2006. [Full View]

fanatic wrote:

Being ardent forum members we decided to publish the next weeks episode on popular demand.
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really awesome fanatic!!
From: vekala on Thu Apr 6 10:24:29 2006. [Full View]

In yesterday's epsiode:
Mani acted weird ...sure something fishy here!
Guess that the poison the 10Rs guy has got is the main ingredient thats searched for the AIDS medicine to complete....
For on recollecting - the poem that the Tea samiyar said yesterday abt that poison was the same mentioned by Tulasi sometime back as the one ingredient still required!
Editors interrogation seemed just to fill the time ....as TS mentioned it was just "araicha maavu".
Naaga pls avoid such dragging! It was boring!
From: AJ on Thu Apr 6 11:34:13 2006. [Full View]

AC's interrogation and editor's response is getting too repetitive...will the AC ever get anywhere with the case? Why does he keep prodding the editor when the editor has nothing else to admit? All this in spite of the editor's insistence that he is not stupid enough to have left evidence in the crime scene if in fact he did commit the murders. The AC has to seriously start thinking along different lines.
TS, no offense meant, but you seem to miss certain subtle points in your narration. Not that they would make a whole lot of difference as far as the story line is concerned, but for people who do not actually get to see the episodes, but get their updates from this forum, it would be better if the narration follows each scene closely.
For example, in last night's episode, little Somu's dad in his state of shock, explains that he is a tour guide and tells Akash he can speak Spanish, French, Italian etc.
The beggar asks lil' Somu's dad to cry his grief off, but the poor man says, "I'm not able to cry.". The beggar then asks Akash to go inside and leave him alone, and says, only if he's alone he will cry. Then lil' Somu's dad goes about explaining how he knew that little Somu was not his child even before he was born but he never queried his wife about it. They would have small fights occasionally. He only wanted to keep his family happy. He worked very hard to earn the Rs. 3 lakhs, and was only short of Rs. 150, and he thought he would tell his wife about it after he made that sum, but unfortunately she killed herself before that. And he treated lil' Somu as his own son, and would not let other kids tease him because of his mental disability.

Once again, no offense meant. This is just a suggestion.
Thanks.
From: ts on Thu Apr 6 12:02:22 2006. [Full View]

I see what you mean but then i do not see this being any significant wrt the story. I think it was mentioned here just to indicate that the man does a lot of travelling and that someone (mani probably) had a good time at his expense ... you know what i am talking about...
From: pavalamani pragasam on Thu Apr 6 12:12:30 2006. [Full View]

This angle seems quite possible, considering how the beggar chased Akash inside and made the guide pour out his grief in front of Mani! It makes sense why Mani was compelled by the beggar to witness the guide's inconsolable grief!
From: aanaa on Thu Apr 6 17:52:43 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Thodarum.

thank you

From: detective on Thu Apr 6 18:02:42 2006.

detective wrote:

I might have missed some small points. Could anyone (detective) fill up the blanks please.

Only one minor thing, TS.

Just before he continues to read Somu's naadi, Mani is wiping his tears. When questioned, he still cannot digest the death of little Somu. To console him, Akash says Mani was crying as if he lost his own son.

I don't know if it is some kind of a pervert thought, but is it possible that Mani was indeed the father of little Somu?? We have not seen his father, have we?

I wrote that on Jul 14, 2005, immediately after little Somu's killing........

Read in Anna-Nagar-Mudhal-theru-Janagaraj style....(murasu must be running to see tamil characters)

detective, ��ʼ� �� ʦ��ġ� idea ��?

From: eezee on Thu Apr 6 19:42:00 2006. [Full View]

There has been lot of interest in the idea that the murders were non-related. While not totally disapproving that, here is a hypothetical scenario that can be told for "Two group theory"

There was a guy getting his naadi read by Mani and he is seen outside SMS'ing someone by name "Periyavar" that Somu's naadi kattu is not gettable. So far we havent seen that guy and neither do we know who periyavar is. Periyavar could logically be the head of the other group.

Looking at Mani's reaction in the last episode, its quite likely that he fathered that little boy Somu. Probably, that group is constantly harassing Mani to somehow get the naadi kattu from Paatti else his personal stories would be made public, thats why he keeps asking Paati to hand him over Somu's naadi in the pretext that his name is mentioned in the naadi. One such blackmailing incident may have made Somu's mother commit suicide.

But given the disinterest between Akash and Mani. Somehow, I feel Akash may not be involved with the murders.
From: pavalamani pragasam on Thu Apr 6 23:26:54 2006. [Full View]

Sounds logical!
From: pavalamani pragasam on Thu Apr 6 23:30:42 2006. [Full View]

detective, you are great!

From: ts on Fri Apr 7 4:22:22 2006.

eezee wrote:

There has been lot of interest in the idea that the murders were non-related. While not totally disapproving that, here is a hypothetical scenario that can be told for "Two group theory"

There was a guy getting his naadi read by Mani and he is seen outside SMS'ing someone by name "Periyavar" that Somu's naadi kattu is not gettable. So far we havent seen that guy and neither do we know who periyavar is. Periyavar could logically be the head of the other group.

Looking at Mani's reaction in the last episode, its quite likely that he fathered that little boy Somu. Probably, that group is constantly harassing Mani to somehow get the naadi kattu from Paatti else his personal stories would be made public, thats why he keeps asking Paati to hand him over Somu's naadi in the pretext that his name is mentioned in the naadi. One such blackmailing incident may have made Somu's mother commit suicide.

But given the disinterest between Akash and Mani. Somehow, I feel Akash may not be involved with the murders.

Good thinking... and it makes sense when Anbarasu is in the opposite side

Smile

. He must have known about his BIL's past that they are using for blackmail. May be that is how the man who gave SMS knows that the "nadi kANavillai".

Kudos ... Detective. �� ...

From: rein on Fri Apr 7 11:59:55 2006. [Full View]

I really think your on to something. I mean Anbarasu never had the loyalty from his early childhood like the other guys, so if Editor bought him his house and Periyavar gave him a swiss bank account, one can just imagine where Anbarasu's loyalty will lie.

From: detective on Fri Apr 7 12:03:43 2006.

eezee wrote:

... constantly harassing Mani to somehow get the naadi kattu from Paatti else his personal stories would be made public, thats why he keeps asking Paati to hand him over Somu's naadi in the pretext that his name is mentioned in the naadi. One such blackmailing incident may have made Somu's mother commit suicide

I don't think so. Mani is obviously remorseful about his act and is curious to know his fate. Since there is a mention of 'manigandan's deeds' in the naadi, he thinks it should have info about the punishment that is due to him, or a parihaaram.

From: detective on Fri Apr 7 12:07:15 2006.

... and it makes sense when Anbarasu is in the opposite side Smile

Smile

. He must have known about his BIL's past that they are using for blackmail. May be that is how the man who gave SMS knows that the "nadi kANavillai".

Also, when that is man is outside waiting for his own naadi, Akash comes out and says that the suvadi is missing. The man hears that and sends the SMS.

From: eezee on Fri Apr 7 13:10:34 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

....He must have known about his BIL's past that they are using for blackmail. May be that is how the man who gave SMS knows that the "nadi kANavillai".

Maybe I am just stretching my imagination too far but its also possible that one or more from Kadavul's group is also helping Periyavar's group(if there is one). I remember Dr. Mangai dialing a number while she is talking to Thillai validating the names on his list with the names the "person in dark room's" list. I dont remember the sequence if that was after little boy Somu's death or before. That person though could easily be the editor, but according to the editor he gets to know each one's name through Somu, so he didnt have to go through Thillai.

Detective though has a valid point about Mani's intents.
From: Aathav52 on Sat Apr 8 4:34:59 2006. [Full View]

Periavar may be Natarajan.
Because nobody suspect him. Wait and see.
From: jimit2007 on Sat Apr 8 15:14:45 2006. [Full View]

jhu

From: bpbp on Sat Apr 8 18:13:24 2006.

fanatic wrote:

Being ardent forum members we decided to publish the next weeks episode on popular demand.
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.......................இப்படியே உசுப்பேத்தி உசுப்பேத்தி ரணகளம் ஆக்கிட்டாங்கய்யா...

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Thodarum.....

Hope this discussion provides ideas for the future episodes. Not sure how to end the same though.

Hoping the forum members can read the same in tamil....if any difficulty I shall publish the same in english.

-Kaagha
Ellame muttai thaan

that's good one

Laughing

Laughing

Laughing

Not Worthy

Clap

From: bpbp on Sat Apr 8 19:30:45 2006.

aanaa wrote:

rein wrote:

he will eventually have to end it,

I'm not trying to upset anyone, just expressing my feelings.

understand your feeling/concern

as u said everything has come to an end....
matter of time
waiting ...

Thalaiya vittutu vaal la pidicha kathaiya iruku....The first half of the story was too lengthyyyyyyyy and now we cant make the second half short without answering all the questions...

"Manaivi" serial went for years and when the director wanted to end it and start a new one (the new bullshit "Penn") it took only 4 or 5 episodes for him to make it end....

So it's not Manaivi, it's Chidambara Ragasiyam....we got to wait patiently as Naga cannot do the same for CR....

But I still agree, even now some of the scenes are getting repeated in every episode and making us lose the patient; For example:

1) Inspector and Editor conversation
2) Loose loganathans (pichai samiyar, tea samiyar, suicide party) blabberings
3) Doc sitting idle
4) and the most frustrating scene: patti hiding the suvadi....

I prefer Akash to kill his patti to get the suvadi...that would be much more interesting...

From: pavalamani pragasam on Sat Apr 8 22:24:37 2006. [Full View]

"I prefer Akash to kill his patti to get the suvadi...that would be much more interesting... "
From: aanaa on Mon Apr 10 8:11:56 2006. [Full View]

pavalamani pragasam wrote:

"I prefer Akash to kill his patti to get the suvadi...that would be much more interesting... "

killing becomes common
changing everybody's attitude!!!!
From: bingleguy on Mon Apr 10 8:16:40 2006. [Full View]
From: jaykayuk on Tue Apr 11 13:22:09 2006. [Full View]

Hi,

While browsing I came across this site.
http://www.rick.harrison.net

It seemed quite novel and I was astonished to come across "Li" and opposite of "LI"

U can check it out if interested

Ro is an a priori �philosophical language,� meaning you can guess what category of meaning a word falls into merely by looking at the first letters. For example, bofoc means red, bofod means orange, and bofof means yellow. It was created by the Reverend Edward Powell Foster.

Ro adopts the alphabet that it finds ready-made, and approved by centuries of use, with the existing form of letters and order of sequence. They already symbolize elementary SOUNDS. Ro makes of them its ideograms. That is, Ro uses them as symbols of elementary IDEAS. Grammarians have already classified words into what they call 'Parts of Speech.' This is but another expression for ELEMENTS OF LANGUAGE.

The categories of Ro's vocabulary are presented here:

li life libo - alive , ligeb - to eat
lo "opposite li" lobod - dead , logeb - to fast

Cheers
jaykayuk

From: Naaga on Tue Apr 11 20:51:01 2006.

jaykayuk wrote:

Hi,

While browsing I came across this site.
http://www.rick.harrison.net

It seemed quite novel and I was astonished to come across "Li" and opposite of "LI"

U can check it out if interested

................................................................
The categories of Ro's vocabulary are presented here:

li life libo - alive , ligeb - to eat
lo "opposite li" lobod - dead , logeb - to fast

Cheers
jaykayuk

That is very interesting J.K.uk.............but the link was leading to a dead-page for me with no links. (Wondering why!!?!)
The full link is working better.........
http://www.rick.harrison.net/langlab/ro1.html
And you can check this one too.....
http://www.rickharrison.com/language/index.html

From: vekala on Wed Apr 12 14:56:36 2006. [Full View]

Hi all,
Today i came across this news and was a bit ....not just a bit but very much disappointed!!! When i read the title I began to read the news with a pride that it's not a new NEWS to us but when i read who the director was for the first 3D serial to be telecasted in Jaya Tv ......Oopps!!!.........
Was not Naaga directing the first 3D serial ???
Check this out : http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/gallery/Events/9466.html
From: ts on Thu Apr 13 5:01:48 2006. [Full View]

Akash gets a call from Adiyapatham. AC asks him if he forgot something. Akash apologises and asks him as to when he wants to meet him. AC asks Akash to come to Chennai the next day. Akash agrees and calls a cab company and arranges for transport. Granny is puzzled and asks him as to who he was talking to. Akash tells her that it was the AC and that he wanted to meet Akash. Granny seems annoyed. She tells him that the case has been solved now and exclaism as to why the AC wanted to meet him. Akash tells her that he doesnt know and that he has to leave for chennai the next day.

Thillai is packing once again. Abirami suspects that he is leaving and goes to her dad and tells her about it. PD comes inside and asks Thillai where was he going. Thillai tells him that he doesnt want to be a burden to them and is thinking of going to a hotel. PD stops him and asks him to be patient for some more time. Meanwhile Kamakshi comes inside and PD asks her to keep something (poonal) in the pooja room and asks Thillai to come with him. PD takes Thillai outside and tells him that he has seen a lot of change in his sister since Thillai's arrival and she seems more confident. Its only her lips that asks for poison but her will to live has grown a lot. Thillai rubbishes his theory and tells him that he feels rusted. He says that he is not doing enough to get the medicine for his daughter's aliment. PD asks him to be patient for a few more days and recites the poem from the nadi that says "Thillai arasan... aarthi.. archanai..." etc etc and tells him that it was him who will bring the cure to kamakshi's disease. Thillai gets wild and tells him that he was after the cure to his daughter's disease and has not done anything about it. He says that the Parthiba year, mentioned in the nadi, is about to finish but still nothing has shown up. PD tells him that his guru had told him that at the end of the Parthiba year, cure to two deadly diseases will surface. He says that he didnt give much thought about it but it makes a lot of sense at this moment. He says that his guru had told him that the 11 nadis will come to Chidambaram, searching for the 12th nadi. Thillai asks him about the 12th nadi. PD says that his Mamiyar (granny) has the 12th nadi. Thillai asks if she will give it to him. PD replies that he will try to get it from her. Abirami interrupts and says that she wont give it to anybody and goes inside murmuring that she better not give it. Thillai asks PD why she says so, PD tells him that his guru had done research on that nadi and granny thinks that she became insane after that and Abirami doesnt want the same to happen to Akash. Thillai is doubtful about getting the Nadi. kamakshi opens the window and tells them "kEtkaravA kEttAl koduppA".

Archana is dancing in the square in the house and Arthi comes out tumbling. Seems she has gained some strength in her legs and starts to walk. Somu and Sivakami are happy to see her walk. Somu gets a call from AC, who asks him to come to his office.

AC is reading a few copies of neithal and somu arrives. He congratulates somu for writing nice articles. He asks somu if he was working elsewhere before joining neithal. Somu tells him that it was his first job. He asks AC if editor had confesed about the murders. AC chuckles and tells him that his mentor was many times more adamant than him but will eventually agree to everything. He says that each murder had been committed with perfect planning and is difficult to crack them. Akash arrives there and AC tries to introduce him to Somu but before that Akash greets Somu. AC asks him how he knew somu and he tells him that he had met somu and taken him to his apartment once. AC tells him that they were seeking somu at that time and asks him why he had not reported about this. Akash mazhuppufies. AC calls him a liar and tells him that he had lied about the reason for him to go to somu's house. Akash tells him that he had gone to Somu's house to visit him and not to give him money that Ismail owed. AC brings out a letter and tells Akash that it was his resignation letter from Cherios biometrics that he had sent to them 2 months back. AC asks him what he was up to and why he was seeking somu. Akash tells him that he had seen Somu's nadi and wanted to write a book about the finger print and behaviour pattern. He says that he was doing some research on them and the book woule make him richer and more popular. Ac asks him about the assignment for which he had come to chennai. Akash tells him that he had come to sort out some problem with the system in one of his customers. The problem was that one of the person's right and left thumb impressions were very similar and that their systems couldnt cope with it. He says that they had raised the scan accuracy which sorted the problem.

AC asks who the customer was. Akash says that it was Telengana Chemicals. AC asks if he knew Perumal Reddy. Akash says that he knew him but had not met him. AC tells him that he knew Perumal Reddy, Ismail, Manoharan and possibly Isakki - connection thru Ismail. Akash asks him what he is up to. AC says that since Akash knows 4 victims why should he not suspect Akash... he can be accounted for a third of the murders...Thodarum
From: aanaa on Thu Apr 13 8:19:52 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

...Thodarum

Thank you for quick 1
From: aanaa on Thu Apr 13 8:20:23 2006. [Full View]

HappyTamil new year
From: laddu on Thu Apr 13 10:19:34 2006. [Full View]

Hello All,
Happy Tamil New Year!

I was kind of frustrated with the repetitions myself and stopped posting but I hope things get heated up in CR once more.

Yes, we have many times didn't suspect Akash..why not him? May be he wants money by finding cure to Aids. All characters know that then may be we have to suspect all of them and what about the "Letter" left by "Chaya" why isn't anyone interested in reading it? I think that will help unwrap the secret...let's see..
From: ts on Thu Apr 13 10:28:57 2006. [Full View]

Also AC knows that the 12th nadi is in Akash's house. He seems to have done nothing to procure it. For some reason i suspect someone from the police force to have a hand in the killings. Remember Anbarasu once told the AC that it could be a policemen behind it and AC chuckled at him.
From: AJ on Thu Apr 13 10:55:38 2006. [Full View]

Akash could definitely be a suspect. He openly expresses his desire to become rich and famous overnight. Reading Somu's naadi and finding a cure to AIDS would help him do exactly that.
Maybe Paati knows that Akash is a part of this, and hence she does not want Akash to get a hold of the naadi and fulfill his evil ambitions.
Could it be that Mani and Abirami have a part to play as well in this grand scheme? I wonder.
From: detective on Thu Apr 13 12:30:49 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

AC tells him that he knew Perumal Reddy, Ismail, Manoharan and possibly Isakki - connection thru Ismail

AC speculates that Akash knows Father Arumai Nayagam- not Isakki, through Ismail. But Akash replies in the negative. So AC says he knows Reddy, Manoharan, Ismal and Little Somu, which makes is 4/12, or one third of the victims.....

AJ wrote:

Akash openly expresses his desire to become rich and famous overnight.... Maybe Paati knows that and hence does not want Akash to fulfill his evil ambitions

Wanting to become rich and famous overnight is not an "evil ambition". Is it??

From: AJ on Thu Apr 13 12:46:51 2006.

detective wrote:

Akash openly expresses his desire to become rich and famous overnight.... Maybe Paati knows that and hence does not want Akash to fulfill his evil ambitions

Wanting to become rich and famous overnight is not an "evil ambition". Is it??

If a person commits a bunch of murders to become rich and famous, then yes, it is an evil ambition. I was only speculating patti's point of view.

From: kanya_kris on Thu Apr 13 13:57:41 2006. [Full View]

till now how many weeks CR serial is over and what is the latest happening in CR serial.

From: Poppoy on Thu Apr 13 16:08:51 2006.

detective wrote:

AC tells him that he knew Perumal Reddy, Ismail, Manoharan and possibly Isakki - connection thru Ismail

AC speculates that Akash knows Father Arumai Nayagam- not Isakki, through Ismail. But Akash replies in the negative. So AC says he knows Reddy, Manoharan, Ismal and Little Somu, which makes is 4/12, or one third of the victims.....

Akash definitely knows Father Arumai Nayagam.. Akash was present in the crime spot when Ismail was murdered so was Father Arumai Nayagam & Somu.. that�s when Akash spots Somu for the first time�

But at this point all Akash knows about is that he has Somu�s nadi and he would not be aware that his nadi and 11 other nadi would lead to the medicine for AIDS� Its only after Mani reads Arti�s nadi he gets to know that the nadi talks about cure for aids and 12 people would loose their life in the course to find the same� this iswell after five or murders have been already commited: Palani, Tamiz Vadiyar Shakaran, Keezambur Ponnabalam, Nataraja sharma , Ismail & Manoharan (If my memory serves me right)

We can rule out Akash being involved right from the start.. But might be he got involved after he came to know about the content of Arti's Nadi

That's my two centsyenna sollreenga..

From: Poppoy on Thu Apr 13 16:24:41 2006.

He says that the Parthiba year, mentioned in the nadi, is about to finish but still nothing has shown up. PD tells him that his guru had told him that at the end of the Parthiba year, cure to two deadly diseases will surface. He says that he didnt give much thought about it but it makes a lot of sense at this moment. He says that his guru had told him that the 11 nadis will come to Chidambaram, searching for the 12th nadi. Thillai asks him about the 12th nadi. PD says that his Mamiyar (granny) has the 12th nadi. ....

At present all the 11 nadi's are with AC Adiyapadha(Police).. I presume... in due corse while investigating Akash AC would get the know that Somu�s nadi is with Akash�s Paati in Chidambaram.. Hence they would go to chidambaram to recover that with the 11 other one�s as Mani would read the aushada gandams from these 12.. Thillairajan would recognize it�s Thillai tree�s sap that they talk about and there you go.. Kamakshi is cured and Arthi is cured� Thillairajan accidentally get he sap spilled in his eye�s a becomes temporarily blind� But gets cured after arthi�s decease gets cured�Thus proving the josiyar�s point that Thillairajan wouldn�t see his daughter in that state.. Tulasi also get cured and confesses on the murders� The END

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From: kanya_kris on Thu Apr 13 17:24:46 2006. [Full View]

Thanks for the updates. I would like to know on how many episodes were completed till now?
Thanks.
From: aanaa on Thu Apr 13 21:28:56 2006. [Full View]

kanya_kris wrote:

till now how many weeks CR serial is over and what is the latest happening in CR serial.

ONLY 91 episode so far

way to go
From: pamrang on Fri Apr 14 8:28:00 2006. [Full View]

Anybody keeping track of how many days is past since somu started investigating the murders? He has to solve it within 15 days, right?
From: detective on Fri Apr 14 13:35:59 2006. [Full View]

pamrang wrote:

Anybody keeping track of how many days is past since somu started investigating the murders? He has to solve it within 15 days, right?

I have heard that, as per hindu mythology, one day for the heavenly people is about 1000 human days (or something close to that). Since Somu is somewhere in between a mere mortal and a godly person, his 15 days is equivalent to our 15 months.

From: Naaga on Fri Apr 14 14:46:40 2006.

detective wrote:

I have heard that, as per hindu mythology, one day for the heavenly people is about 1000 human days (or something close to that). Since Somu is somewhere in between a mere mortal and a godly person, his 15 days is equivalent to our 15 months.

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From: crazy on Sun Apr 16 6:57:03 2006.

detective wrote:

pamrang wrote:

Anybody keeping track of how many days is past since somu started investigating the murders? He has to solve it within 15 days, right?

I have heard that, as per hindu mythology, one day for the heavenly people is about 1000 human days (or something close to that). Since Somu is somewhere in between a mere mortal and a godly person, his 15 days is equivalent to our 15 months.

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From: vekala on Mon Apr 17 9:28:11 2006.

Poppoy wrote:

At present all the 11 nadi's are with AC Adiyapadha(Police).. I presume... in due corse while investigating Akash AC would get the know that Somu�s nadi is with Akash�s Paati in Chidambaram..

The 11 Naadi's are still with Kumaraguru...but he is not revealing where it is to the AC!

From: Poppoy on Mon Apr 17 11:00:25 2006.

vekala wrote:

Poppoy wrote:

At present all the 11 nadi's are with AC Adiyapadha(Police).. I presume... in due corse while investigating Akash AC would get the know that Somu�s nadi is with Akash�s Paati in Chidambaram..

The 11 Naadi's are still with Kumaraguru...but he is not revealing where it is to the AC!

Thanks for the correction vekala..
now a day all we hear from naga is his laugther (

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)... have we become very funny... nice to know we are able to relax him amidts all serious work... So how many days is it really from the day somu started his search? That would be a baseline for us to know how long we are headed...

From: Naaga on Tue Apr 18 2:44:10 2006. [Full View]

Poppoy wrote:

now a day all we hear from naga is his laugther ( )... have we become very funny...

No Poppoy.......i'm very much here and following the thread. Just that a little busy to post any long ones.

Regarding those ( )s.......i couldnt help myself laughing, seeing those sarcastic lines from detective.
From: bingleguy on Tue Apr 18 2:47:39 2006. [Full View]

Vanakkam Naaga sir ! Puththaandu Nal Vaazhthukkal !
From: Aathav52 on Tue Apr 18 6:49:10 2006. [Full View]

From one of the episode (Mangai... talking with Periyavar on mobile at Thillairajan's compound) Periyavar looked like Adiyapatham.

Am I correct
From: gmax2k5 on Tue Apr 18 12:07:37 2006. [Full View]

so naga, i want to ask you a question, do you mention in thsi serial, that all this is just fiction. what if some people actually think ur serial is real, and try finding the cure for aids, and cancer in nadis.

From: Poppoy on Tue Apr 18 13:22:27 2006.

Naaga wrote:

goldkiddo wrote:

Will someone get the doc to take a boat ride out to pichavaram?
He is likely to stumble upon some tillai bushes there.

Good find goldkiddo. A search on the botanical name of thillai which is Excoecaria agallocha yielded this interesting link
http://www.naturia.per.sg/buloh/plants/blind%20your%20eye.htm
which talks about its unique colored leaves - bright red (Thulasi made an origami once of a golden leaf and a red leaf) and the site also mentions the plant's anti-HIV and anti-cancer properties. It's a mangrove tree and as you mentioned grows in Pichavaram in Tamilnadu.

Just returned from Chidambaram and Pichavaram...........and here you guys are discussing Thillai and Pichavaram!!!............."meaningful coincidence", eh?

BTW, it seems that there were a couple of saplings of the thillai planted in Chidambaram temple's nandavanam near the North Gopuram sometime back. They were standing a good six feet till 20 days back........

Guess what!!......they were cut down (in the name of cleaning-up) just before the Kumbabishekam by a drunk, reckless worker of the temple......even though he was warned by the old man who takes care of the nandavanam to be careful about them (The old man had some of the choicest of expletives for him as he narrated it). So........still, there is no Sthalavriksham at Chidambaram temple.

There are some Thillai trees in Pichavaram.....a mangrove forest near chidambaram. It is a declared "reserved forest". So, if you are caught plucking leaves, you could be fined an amount of Rs.500/- per leaf......so says the forest personnel who was manning the boating area inside.

And guess what, we found a large belt of thillai trees on both the sides of the road enroute to Cuddalore from Chidambaram........

Anybody travelling from Chidambaram to Cuddalore, look-out for a railway crossing midway...........cross it........stop.....all those trees along the track are thillai.....just be careful with the sap......(it can blind you or atleast give you a rash if it touches your skin.)

Naaga's subject seems to be based on a non fiction subject... Yes! Why not someone investigate and do the world some good...

From: ssanjinika on Tue Apr 18 13:46:13 2006.

gmax2k5 wrote:

so naga, i want to ask you a question, do you mention in thsi serial, that all this is just fiction. what if some people actually think ur serial is real, and try finding the cure for aids, and cancer in nadis.

Oh!! Comeon dude!!!
There are already people researching the cure of aids,in mulligais and in what not!Why not let them search for it in naadis too

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From: Poppoy on Tue Apr 18 14:13:09 2006.

Naaga wrote:

Poppoy wrote:

now a day all we hear from naga is his laugther ( Laughing

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ROTFL

)... have we become very funny...

No Poppoy.......i'm very much here and following the thread. Just that a little busy to post any long ones.

Regarding those (

Laughing

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)s.......i couldnt help myself laughing, seeing those sarcastic lines from detective.

Naaga: no offence meant... apologize if it hurt you�.
Those posts from detective, fanatic, and a few others have been hilarious� Kudos (Especially fanatic�s Bird flu one was a great one�

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Just eager to hear more informative contribution�s from you... lots of those stuff you have posted in the forum have been very enlightening... we are learning a lot of new things... Thanks for all those post's

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pamrang wrote:

Anybody keeping track of how many days is past since somu started investigating the murders? He has to solve it within 15 days, right?

BTW... folks did we hear from anyone as to how much real time has passed since somu started his search? My guess is 14 days have gone by� he is my analogy
one day in chidambaram to get info from Mani's assistant [Day1]
one day at seetapati's house to get info from mahadevan [Day2]
one day to search for iisaki's assistant(or is it the same day) [Day3]
one day for nanda's friend [Day4]
one day for father's trail & same night for perumal reddy's assistant�s trail [Day5]
one day to travel to Chennai and trace the A/C mechanic (ISmail�s man) [Day6]
one day to trace mannohar�s office boy( am sure its not the same day) [Day7]
same day travel to gooduvancheri to trace that rowdy�what was his name? [Day7]
one more day to travel back and catch hold of the doctor or two day�s [Day8]
then traveling to Tamil vadiyar�s house to loose trail of Padma [Day8]
one day at aarti�s house to get info from here�trace mangai & Anbarasu [Day9]
one day back to arthi�s house to trace palani�s info [Day10]
one day with ten rupee man[Day11]
one day to trace back to office and trace padma�s involvement, escape AC�s trail,
meet savari� trace it to kadavul(the gyanoodayam..God Kadavul..Kadavul..God.. ho! No� Enlightened) [Day12]
next day fall at kadavul feet ) and get enlightened kadavul�s arrest [Day13]
next day meet 10 rupee man again.. go to AC�s office to be with AC for Akash�s interrogation [Day14]

I have tried to compile the above list in the best sequence I can.. please correct me if I am wrong

So most likely� few more episode�s and we would have the solution.. Aha! magic dramas by "air"A get�s reveled

Thumbs Up!

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(hopefully its not very silly one like yeandira paravai or swarna regai

Huh?!

From: nacdaman on Wed Apr 19 22:06:13 2006. [Full View]

Nice twist today....with differrent ppl claiming responibilities for the different murders. But another interesting twist is all of them done by poison.

Today's episode was one of the best in a long time....Going back and Forth ...true Naaga Ishtyle.....
From: Poppoy on Thu Apr 20 0:07:20 2006. [Full View]

Hi .. Today for the first time I took connection for suntv and was able to view Chidambara Ragasiyam for the first time as the show gets telecast�

Let me try and provide the update for this week.. TS/Detective & others I may not be able to come up to your mark

please do correct me if I missed something or posted something wrong.. here we go

AC Adiyapadham is interrogating Akash in the warehouse house or so called AC�s office/conference room� Adiyapadam says that Since Akash knows Perumal Reddy, Ismail, Manoharan, somu and Father Arumai Nayagam- connection thru Ismail why should he not suspect him. For this Akash says that it doesn�t sould logical. He says that any one in this world can be connected with 4 or five people ( same concept said by Ismail earlier in the serial).. Akash:�for example the constable out there he know you.. you know me.. so can we say that he knows Akash� similarly I don�t know George Bush.. but I know a security officer who works in white house and he�s acquainted to GB.. so shall we say that since the constable out there knows you, you know me and I know the security officer.. the Constable know GB?�.. at this time another constable interrupts and says that this person has come to see you�
.. Mani enters the conference room.. Akash is shocked to see him.. he goes towards him saying� �Mani� why are you here� did you come to see me�� at this point as akash tries to hold him, Mani slips down to the floor; starts crying and mumbles � � I can�t tolerate this any more� I need to speak the truth...� He says that he is the main reason for somu�s death.. every one in the room is shocked. starts saying the story.. That little somu his illicit son and sahradha was fed up with her husband always being a drunkard and they had relationship while he was away� as little some was mentally unstable.. they were disheartened� the flash back scene shows little somu�s mother pleading with mani to show her a way for lively hood as she and treat en�s to take drastic measures if he does not oblige.
Then in another flash back mani describes how he reveled his worries about somu and about sharadha�s treat to his friend Neelakandan, a candy vendor.. Mani mumbles out that it would be good if little somu were gone for good by some accident or so.. at this mani�s friend ask�s him if he really means that..
The scene shift back to AC�s conference room where mani continues the story that through unfortunate incident some die�s and after some day� his friend, neelakandan came asking if he was relieved with his worries and confessed he was the one who had set up a poisoned candy to finish little somu.. quick flash back of sr.somu running from scene were little somu is dieing� Mani says he was not more able to concentrate on his work at his shop where little somu died and so shifted the shop to Patti�s thinnai� he says that sharadha would still come to him and poolambify about him finishing off her sick son.. no quick flash back from Akash�s side remembering the same�.
AC call�s Chidambaram Police station and ask them to trace neelagandan.. at this time a woman police comes in announcing that there was a lady who had come in confessing for a murder that AC is investigating� In come seetapati's daughter (don�t remember her name).. She comes in hysterically announcing that she was the one who killed her father and starts telling the story� the flashback goes where mahadevan asks for her hand and her father refusing.. mahadavan in the range shouts to him saying at this rate the father is going to have his daughter all through his life like his wife.. she says that her father took it to words and started abusing her and misbehaved with her.. she couldn�t tolerate it for long�
At this time flashback goes to a scene where mahadevan comes with a bottle of poison and ask�s her if they can run away to live happily or drink that poison and die together happily.. she convinces him and send him off� but she holds on to the bottle�
Then seetapati's daughter says that she found that somu who was at their house had a series of murder on his head and tried to use it for her circumstance .. she poisoned the dosa�s that she was serving for them using the one that mahadevan had left.. (To be Cont�)
From: Poppoy on Thu Apr 20 0:23:01 2006. [Full View]

Hey.. On watching today's episode I remembered one of our fellow huber (don�t remember the name)who correctly predicted that all the 12 murders were committed by 12 different and the 12 would come forward confessing.. There ends the story...
looks like Naaga has picked up the que from there and the story is heading that way...
Here is my guess of the list of murder's(off course first two confirmed from today's episode).. naaga sir pls confirm heehehe.. ( just on the lighter side)
Little some -> Mani/friend
Seetapati-> his daugther
Issaki -> Anbarasu(or assistant)
Nandhan -> His fed up wife
Father -> one of his unhappy disciple
Perumal reddy-> his wife(2nd or first?)
Ismail -> The office girl whom he tries to misbehave with
Manohar -> Anbarasu/one of his borrowers
Natesha sharma -> an accident
Poonambalam -> His disciple
Tamil vadiyar -> His student (the one somu & Padma meet)
Paalani -> Trunk driver association

How about that�
From: bingleguy on Thu Apr 20 2:04:18 2006. [Full View]

good guesses
From: crazy on Thu Apr 20 2:57:34 2006. [Full View]

maybe u r right poppy. at last the seriel will end telling like this
i cant still believe that daughter poisened her own father
From: ts on Thu Apr 20 4:18:10 2006. [Full View]

Tamil vadhiyar - Mukilan... Remember he was the one who came from the front door...must be that he poisoned the vadhiyar with some mooligai...
From: jaykayuk on Thu Apr 20 10:57:36 2006. [Full View]

After the wedding, seetapathi's daughter accuses mahadevan of killing her father and she is hysterical. Cant believe that she killed her own father.
Also, no one will commit a murder just like that for a friend(Mani-Somu)
This does not look logical.
From: ssanjinika on Thu Apr 20 11:27:11 2006. [Full View]

good guesses poppy

On a more serious note..I would be dissappointed if all the murders were not connected in any way.That does seem too much of a coincidence esp since all of them were poisioned.

From: Poppoy on Thu Apr 20 11:31:03 2006.

.... Thillai gets wild and tells him that he was after the cure to his daughter's disease and has not done anything about it. He says that the Parthiba year, mentioned in the nadi, is about to finish but still nothing has shown up. PD tells him that his guru had told him that at the end of the Parthiba year, cure to two deadly diseases will surface. He says that he didnt give much thought about it but it makes a lot of sense at this moment. He says that his guru had told him that the 11 nadis will come to Chidambaram, searching for the 12th nadi. Thillai asks him about the 12th nadi. PD says that his Mamiyar (granny) has the 12th nadi.....

So guys now that Parthiba varusam is over and we are into Viya varusam. As per the nadi now is the right time for all the 12 nadis to come together...anxious to see how naga is going to handle that part.. solving of the murder mystery is getting a bit too silly just as in his other marma desam series. That�s my opinion.. not to ridicule the great effort naga is putting into it�just my two cents

From: Poppoy on Thu Apr 20 11:31:26 2006.

.... Thillai gets wild and tells him that he was after the cure to his daughter's disease and has not done anything about it. He says that the Parthiba year, mentioned in the nadi, is about to finish but still nothing has shown up. PD tells him that his guru had told him that at the end of the Parthiba year, cure to two deadly diseases will surface. He says that he didnt give much thought about it but it makes a lot of sense at this moment. He says that his guru had told him that the 11 nadis will come to Chidambaram, searching for the 12th nadi. Thillai asks him about the 12th nadi. PD says that his Mamiyar (granny) has the 12th nadi.....

So guys now that Parthiba varusam is over and we are into Viya varusam. As per the nadi now is the right time for all the 12 nadis to come together...anxious to see how naga is going to handle that part.. solving of the murder mystery is getting a bit too silly just as in his other marma desam series. That�s my opinion.. not to ridicule the great effort naga is putting into it�just my two cents

From: AJ on Thu Apr 20 13:08:19 2006.

detective wrote:

If the testimonies of the editor et al are true, it is quite possible that the killings are unrelated. I had a suspicion to that effect and said that in the forum as well. Some, like Natesh Sharma, can be an accident too. And maybe the poison in Little Somu's idli was meant for Mani.

But making the viewers (and cops alike Smile

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) believe for nearly 2 years that the killlings are by one group, though not explicitly, and finally saying otherwise, will be a bland end to the serial.

Detective, you were spot on. If all the murders turn out to be unrelated, then CR will have an uninteresting ending. The murders will have been �meaningful coincidences�, Thillai will find a cure for HIV and cancer in the thillai tree, and �THE END!
It was unrealistic on last night�s episode that no sooner does Mani complete his confession, than the girl comes in with her confession of murdering her father. The AC doesn�t have to put in any effort�the murderers will automatically come in one after the other with their confessions (in exact reverse chronological order mind you!..starting with Little Somu and ending with Palani!)., and we have to sit through a few more of these episodes.

From: eezee on Thu Apr 20 13:17:20 2006. [Full View]

Now, the story is kind of drifting towards the possibility that all 12 murders are not related to a single person. It will be interesting to see how Naaga explains the use of Oxytoxin in most murders if they are unrelated. Anyway, oxytoxin is not so uncommon, rarely they do use it in very small doses on pregnant women to induce labor.

Secondly, I had a wild thought hoping to see a relation of murders where the next killed person is actually the one that killed the previous so no trace is left, slowly we are going away from that direction too, though its rationally possible that the little boy Somu couldnt have killed Seethapathi and maybe the sequence still could follow from Seethapathi onwards........
From: detective on Thu Apr 20 13:47:05 2006. [Full View]

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in exact reverse chronological order mind you!..starting with Little Somu and ending with Palani!

That will probably be the most childish aspect of the serial

From: Naaga on Thu Apr 20 13:49:14 2006.

[tscii]Thanx Poppoy for the update.

Tamil vadhiyar - Mukilan... Remember he was the one who came from the front door...must be that he poisoned the vadhiyar with some mooligai...

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After the wedding, seetapathi's daughter accuses mahadevan of killing her father and she is hysterical. Cant believe that she killed her own father.

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That does seem too much of a coincidence esp Exclamation

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The AC doesn�t have to put in any effort�the murderers will automatically come in one after the other with their confessions (in exact reverse chronological order mind you!..starting with Little Somu and ending with Palani!).

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It will be interesting to see how Naaga explains the use of Oxytoxin in most murders if they are unrelated.

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Kindly check again the name of the poison and the number of murders it is associated in the serial, pleeeeeeeeeeeease.

From: ssanjinika on Thu Apr 20 14:02:52 2006. [Full View]

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all of them poisioned

oops!! sorry!!
started watching the serial late..and all the murders I saw happened with the help of poision and I forgot about the murders before that.

From: detective on Thu Apr 20 15:06:46 2006.

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Neither of them could enter through the front door b'cos it was locked from the inside. So Mugilan asks editor to drive to the back of the house (on the parellell street) and walks through the narrow lane.

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jaykayuk wrote:

After the wedding, seetapathi's daughter accuses mahadevan of killing her father and she is hysterical. Cant believe that she killed her own father.

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Well, I don't remember the exact dialogues, but she was hysterical and did cast some blame on Mahadevan - that was just before Somu interrogates him inside that locked room.

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Naaga, that is how the confessions start - in reverse chron. order. It definitely makes a viewer believe that it will continue in that pattern. You can change the screeplay easily to change the order of confessions/investigation, so that there is no order whatsoever. Maybe you had it that way in the first place. But when you end an episode with two confessions following a pattern, it will lead to assumptions

From: eezee on Thu Apr 20 15:32:29 2006.

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Kindly check again the name of the poison and the number of murders it is associated in the serial, pleeeeeeeeeeeease.

Name Mode Who helped the Killer/group
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Palani - Lorry Possibly scarman
Sankaran - OT (Oxytoxin) Possibly scarman
Ponnambalam - OT Dr MOhan
Natesa Sharma - OT Rowdy
Manoharan - OT Officeboy
Ismail - OT AC Mechanic
Perumal Reddy - OT Sekar
Priest - OT Villager
Nandan - OT Villager's friend
Isakki - OT His patient
Seethapathy - OT Mahadevan
Little Somu - OT Scarman

Looking at the list, poison was used on 11/12 cases.

No offense meant, but I got Sun TV connection only last year so I had to rely on the updates. Now, searching through the forum I do see that you had earlier corrected the name of the poison from Oxytoxin to Oxyditoxin. Point well taken.

My two cents on the last episode - to show an abusive father in a father-daughter relationship is a bold move, not sure if everyone would receive it well.

From: AJ on Thu Apr 20 17:09:32 2006.

detective wrote:

Naaga wrote:

The AC doesn�t have to put in any effort�the murderers will automatically come in one after the other with their confessions (in exact reverse chronological order mind you!..starting with Little Somu and ending with Palani!).

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Naaga, that is how the confessions start - in reverse chron. order. It definitely makes a viewer believe that it will continue in that pattern. You can change the screeplay easily to change the order of confessions/investigation, so that there is no order whatsoever. Maybe you had it that way in the first place. But when you end an episode with two confessions following a pattern, it will lead to assumptions

Mr. Naga, I quote detective. Couldn't have said it better myself. Maybe it's too early to make assumptions, maybe not. But the 2 confessions on last night's episode were for back to back murders - in the reverse order, thereby giving the impression of a pattern being followed, akin to the pattern which evolved when Somu went about investigating the truth.
And as I said before, it is unlikely that both Mani and Seetapathi's daughter, who until this point were totally unrelated, would all of a sudden realize their folly and show up at AC's door to confess at the exact same time, give or take a few minutes.

From: Poppoy on Thu Apr 20 17:57:13 2006.

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Naaga wrote:

The AC doesn�t have to put in any effort�the murderers will automatically come in one after the other with their confessions (in exact reverse chronological order mind you!..starting with Little Somu and ending with Palani!).

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Naaga, that is how the confessions start - in reverse chron. order. It definitely makes a viewer believe that it will continue in that pattern. You can change the screeplay easily to change the order of confessions/investigation, so that there is no order whatsoever. Maybe you had it that way in the first place. But when you end an episode with two confessions following a pattern, it will lead to assumptions

Mr. Naga, I quote detective. Couldn't have said it better myself. Maybe it's too early to make assumptions, maybe not. But the 2 confessions on last night's episode were for back to back murders - in the reverse order, thereby giving the impression of a pattern being followed, akin to the pattern which evolved when Somu went about investigating the truth.
And as I said before, it is unlikely that both Mani and Seetapathi's daughter, who until this point were totally unrelated, would all of a sudden realize their folly and show up at AC's door to confess at the exact same time, give or take a few minutes.

I agree with you on the pattern here... first as the incedent ahppend the 12 murders with somu at every murder spot.. then some traced it back up till palani in his investigation.. and then the editor walks AC throug the murder in sequence from planai to little somu and now its trun of the murderer's to come in reverse cronologics order

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From: bpbp on Thu Apr 20 23:16:05 2006. [Full View]

The daughter - father relation was kind of indigestible...could have done little better�.

The coincidence seems too much to be believed�.kaathula pooooooo
From: goldkiddo on Fri Apr 21 2:29:09 2006. [Full View]

Me thinks there's more to it than meets the eye. Two people have only confessed their guilt. Mani did not feed the chocolate to little somu and we are yet to see the scene where devi hands the poisoned dosa to her father.

So how did li'l somu get to the poisoned sweet? Did his mother knowingly buy it for him? Did she commit suicide because of her own guilt?
And the mittai guy doesnt really explain how he got li'l somu to eat it.

Something like the 4 guys confessing their guilt to doc thillai about the train disaster, maybe more people will walk in to ac's godown from here on confessing their part in the gruesome murders:

'Nan than , nan than konnuten', ' ennai kaithu seyunga, ac sir'
Sob sob sob boo hoo hoo sniff sniff

And ac with great foresight has rented a huge godown with sufficient chairs to accomodate every guilty sobbing soul

From: ts on Fri Apr 21 2:43:55 2006.

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[tscii]Thanx Poppoy for the update.

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When Kumaraguru and Mukilan went to visit Tamil Nambi. Mukilan asked KG to come from the rear of the house...again i am basingwhatever i said on the "bed time story" Kumaraguru read to the AC

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From: ts on Fri Apr 21 2:47:57 2006. [Full View]

bpbp wrote:

The daughter - father relation was kind of indigestible...could have done little better�.

The coincidence seems too much to be believed�.kaathula pooooooo

Trust be "bpbp", i know someone in chennai with striking coincidence. The man is a very pious overall! but very dirty inside. The daughter ran away from the family at the age of 16 because of such problems
From: pavalamani pragasam on Fri Apr 21 2:59:56 2006. [Full View]

Even if such 'dirty' creatures may exist( thanks, as a rarity only) it irks to see one in an otherwise wholly entertaining, interesting serial!

From: Naaga on Fri Apr 21 3:17:54 2006.

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When Kumaraguru and Mukilan went to visit Tamil Nambi. Mukilan asked KG to come from the rear of the house...again i am basingwhatever i said on the "bed time story" Kumaraguru read to the AC Smile

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No TS, when KG and Mukilan come in the same car and Mukilan goes knocks on the door, comes back to KG and says the door is locked and tells him to bring the car around to the road behind the house as he himself takes a walk to the backside in the same route taken by Somu and Padma............when did he have the time to kill the vathiyar?

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So how did li'l somu get to the poisoned sweet? Did his mother knowingly buy it for him? Did she commit suicide because of her own guilt?
And the mittai guy doesnt really explain how he got li'l somu to eat it.

Check the scenes when little Somu dies and Arumugam's confession to Somu.

From: aanaa on Fri Apr 21 8:23:31 2006.

Trust be "bpbp", i know someone in chennai with striking coincidence. The man is a very pious overall! but very dirty inside. The daughter ran away from the family at the age of 16 because of such problems

From: vekala on Fri Apr 21 10:32:30 2006.

Thiruvidai wrote:

I also followed the discussion on the possible killer/killers. I would like to contribute to this discussion, by sharing my guess work.

There is no one killer .. These killings(or some may even be genuine
accidental deaths ) are individual events which take place for different
reasons but are connected by the common thread of "medicinal cure for
diseases".

This is as per what is called as "Syncrocity" and "meaningful
coincidences" theory. By using this theory approach, the coincidences
happen in the killing/ accidental deaths with the larger pattern to
establish the medicine for AIDS.

This type of thinking is slightly different from the conventional cause and effect
logic Using this pattern thinking,
we can establish the following.

A. Per the Destiny and as per Naadi, Dr.Thillai Rajan has to find the
Medicine.
B. Presently, he has studied different medicine branch and by normal
life pattern, will not have any motive/inclination to go to Chidambaram
and search for a medicine for this disease.
C. The motive/driving force to get Dr. Thailli Rajan to take action is his
daughter (Aarti)falling sick with the disease.
D. For Aarti to fall sick, she needs to come in contact with people who
are in search of the medicine
E. That will happens when Somu gets to work on Nadi Josiyam and involves her also, which in
turn is because of the deaths he witnesses ..which ls linked with other events
described in the serial..

Thus, a lot of individual events happen which are by themselves
unconnected but fit into a overall big pattern.How does this explain the deaths in the serial?

Let us take the case of small boy by name Somu. Someone intends to kill either Akash or Mani (Nadi Josiyar). The food is poisoned. Instead of the person whom it is intended by the killer, the posion is eaten by the small boy.
By the meaningful coincidence theory, the thumbprint of the boy is taken by the man with the scar (I forgot his name)just before the boy dies ..
This incident (of thumb print taking) is coincidental to the actual killing but it serves other connected purposes...like Somu gets to reflect on the killing and finds a clue to suspect the man who brings the food , thereby leading back to the chain
of deaths etc..

Another Example - In this serial , Dr. Thillai rajan finds a few people
who are themselves unconnected and unaware of each other , but by their separate individual acts, contribute to
an unfortunate train accident

Guddos Thiruvidai

Thumbs Up!

... Great guess!!!

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Your guess and theory seems right!!!

From: pamrang on Fri Apr 21 11:25:03 2006.

eezee wrote:

It will be interesting to see how Naaga explains the use of Oxytoxin in most murders if they are unrelated. Anyway, oxytoxin is not so uncommon, rarely they do use it in very small doses on pregnant women to induce labor..

A little correction - the poison mentioned in the serial is oxytoxin or oxyditoxin - the one used to induce labor is oxytocin - it is a hormone produced in the body to induce muscle contractions, it is also administered exogenously to induce labor.

From: detective on Fri Apr 21 13:14:06 2006.

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eezee wrote:

It will be interesting to see how Naaga explains the use of Oxytoxin in most murders if they are unrelated. Anyway, oxytoxin is not so uncommon, rarely they do use it in very small doses on pregnant women to induce labor..

A little correction - the poison mentioned in the serial is oxytoxin or oxyditoxin - the one used to induce labor is oxytocin - it is a hormone produced in the body to induce muscle contractions, it is also administered exogenously to induce labor.

Wow!! This looks like an accident waiting to happen!! Have there been incidents where a pregnant woman was given oxytoxin, by mistake, instead of oxytocin? I dread to think of the outcome. In reality, how poisonous is this oxytoxin?? Can it cause serious complications, including death??

From: detective on Fri Apr 21 13:21:11 2006.

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goldkiddo wrote:

So how did li'l somu get to the poisoned sweet? Did his mother knowingly buy it for him? Did she commit suicide because of her own guilt?
And the mittai guy doesnt really explain how he got li'l somu to eat it.

Check the scenes when little Somu dies and Arumugam's confession to Somu.

I distinctly remember some arbitrary guy giving a 'chocolate' to jr.Somu, minutes before sr.Somu sees him foaming. I also remember me writing about it in the forum.

From: laddu on Mon Apr 24 14:57:13 2006. [Full View]

so, really we have multiple killers all or most related to the victim. I'm wondering how Naga will explain the timing for all these...
From: aanaa on Mon Apr 24 18:11:59 2006. [Full View]

laddu wrote:

so, really we have multiple killers all or most related to the victim. I'm wondering how Naga will explain the timing for all these...

looks like broken chain - no links
12 murders may have 12 reasons and 12 murderers

From: karthik_rcs on Mon Apr 24 20:15:11 2006.

Apparantly, Seethapadhi had refused to give his daughter's hand to Mahadevan, citing his joblessness. Isakki is also there, trying to talk on behalf of Mahadevan. Seethapadhi challenges Mahadevan to earn Rs. 100,000 first. Mahadevan walks out and is accosted by Paadhi Paramasivam. PP is another useless guy always found outside Isakki's house. (Somu recalls seeing PP there, when he went into Isakki's house to find Isakki dead.)

PP introduces Mahadevan to the scarman, who promises to pay the money in turn for Seethapadhi's finger print. Mahadevan agrees and goes stealthily to Seethapadhi's house in the night. He playfully takes the plate of dosai from the daughter, and the scarman takes it from him and mixes something without her knowledge (though Mahadevan sees it).

Last week the scene ended with seetapadi daughter taking already poisened dosai to back entrance where mahadevan is standing.

IT seems the scarman mixes something in that too....

From: AJ on Tue Apr 25 11:01:47 2006. [Full View]

That's not exactly true...when the scarman takes the dosa plate, he turns, and only his back is visible to us. Whether he mixes something in it or not, we do not know for a fact.
From: detective on Tue Apr 25 11:44:36 2006. [Full View]

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That's not exactly true...when the scarman takes the dosa plate, he turns, and only his back is visible to us. Whether he mixes something in it or not, we do not know for a fact.

You are right. We do not know.

From the writing style, looks like I had provided the updates for that week. Savarimuthu (I guess we don't have to call him scarman anymore) turns his back to us with the dosai in hand. We don't see what he does to it. But in that frame of mind, I was sure he turned back to mix something and hence said so.

Coming to think of it..... Mahadevan takes the plate from the daughter playfully, and the daughter lets him take it, after just a minor refusal. Will anyone let their lover take poisoned food in their hand?? Agreed she cannot say that out in as many words. But she should have resisted aggressively or at least toppled it out of Mahadevan's hand. But in accordance with all other characters in the serial, her character has no common sense either.

Seriously, I doubt if this was the original story Naga had written. I am forced to think he changed/extended the story owing to pressure from sponsorers. If I am right, the next few episodes will have absolute nonsense in them. I am sorry if I am being 'abrasive'.
From: AJ on Tue Apr 25 12:53:40 2006. [Full View]

Detective,
My best guess is that she didn't resist as much for fear of being caught in the act. Her plan would have been foiled too. But you are correct in a sense..what if Mahadevan or his 'friend' for that matter took a bite of the dosai? Didn't that thought occur to her?
As you said, the whole 'father taking advantage of daughter and daughter killing father' scenario seems forced, like it was introduced into the script later in time. It would have made better sense if Mahadevan had killed Seetapathi instead. He had enough motive, one can assume.

From: Poppoy on Tue Apr 25 12:55:45 2006.

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That's not exactly true...when the scarman takes the dosa plate, he turns, and only his back is visible to us. Whether he mixes something in it or not, we do not know for a fact.

You are right. We do not know.

From the writing style, looks like I had provided the updates for that week. Savarimuthu (I guess we don't have to call him scarman anymore) turns his back to us with the dosai in hand. We don't see what he does to it. But in that frame of mind, I was sure he turned back to mix something and hence said so.

Coming to think of it..... Mahadevan takes the plate from the daughter playfully, and the daughter lets him take it, after just a minor refusal. Will anyone let their lover take poisoned food in their hand?? Agreed she cannot say that out in as many words. But she should have resisted aggressively or at least toppled it out of Mahadevan's hand. But in accordance with all other characters in the serial, her character has no common sense either.

Seriously, I doubt if this was the original story Naga had written. I am forced to think he changed/extended the story owing to pressure from sponsorers. If I am right, the next few episodes will have absolute nonsense in them. I am sorry if I am being 'abrasive'.

One other observation that would fit with every murder... there is a syringe needle sticking out of every victims neck side.. How would you explain that if somu dies with poisoned candy and seethapathi with the poisoned dosa (presumed).. I guess this is something to ponder
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From: Poppoy on Tue Apr 25 13:11:27 2006.

[quote="Naaga"]Welcome back, Detective..........i was missing your posts Very Happy

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Hope Naga does not end the serial saying the 12 people killed were killed for different reasons and there were 12 different killers and none of them had any idea about the naadi and Somu was just destined to be there

Wow........why not??????!!!!!!!

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and there is no real culprit.

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"real"??????????????"culprit"??????????????

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From: detective on Tue Apr 25 14:09:55 2006.

Poppoy wrote:

One other observation that would fit with every murder... there is a syringe needle sticking out of every victims neck side.. How would you explain that if somu dies with poisoned candy and seethapathi with the poisoned dosa (presumed).. I guess this is something to ponder My two cents Confused

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That is not right. Not all victims have a syringe sticking out. Pazhani, Sangakaran, Ismail, Nandhan also did not have a syringe involved. There is a chance that Nandhan was poisoned, but in case of the other three, no involvement of poison was shown.

BUT..... when the police were discussing these murders, weren't they aware of the cause of death?? I thought an autopsy would have revealed as much. Maybe the police already know the causes of death, which are different, but still attribute them to one person because of the ink on the thumb.

Look at it this way.... if the police department knew that the killings were independent, they would not have given any importance to it. Since they thought the killings were linked, they assigned the case to a "brilliant" AC. Why did they think the killings were linked? Because of the ink-doused thumb. Who did that?? Kumaraguru. So Kumaraguru, indirectly, was responsible for these murders to attain a serial status. That is the message of the story. That is the 'Meaningful Concidence' or 'Irresponsible Responsibility' theory.

From: MaxOne on Tue Apr 25 15:28:24 2006.

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Naaga wrote:

Welcome back, Detective..........i was missing your posts Very Happy

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Hope Naga does not end the serial saying the 12 people killed were killed for different reasons and there were 12 different killers and none of them had any idea about the naadi and Somu was just destined to be there

Wow........why not??????!!!!!!!

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"real"??????????????"culprit"??????????????

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Dear CR hubbers, Glad to join you finally. (waited for my Id to get approved Surprised

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I had the same line of thought as quoted above for quite some time and got so excited/inspired, I dared to visualize this :

At some scene down the road a nadi (maybe Somu's) comes out like below and spells it out for everyone..

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Ţĸ�� Ƣ�¡ ��

At that point we uncover something like:
Dr.Thulasi used a special solution in an inkpad that has Oxyditoxin... (remember in a scene when Vishnu goes thru the stuff in her room and asks about a green bottle)

Somehow this pad gets to Savarimuthu who mistakenly or by 'mislead' advice, tries to get thumb prints of people who either die to the inkpad's poison or of some other cause, but the autopsy flags it as a death caused by poison in the blood stream anyway.

So going along with the potentially crazy 'Inkpad theory' Shocked

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Maybe thulasi or someone had some specific intentions to fuse the Oxyditoxin or some other poison in the pad (unintended or to hide it)

- Unintended : As a scientific tool used for tests like litmus paper but an unfortunate coincidence that this poison is formed when it reacts with water (in body sweat)
- Intended : THS IS THE ACTUAL POISON that will cure AIDS after combining with the Thillai leaves that Dr TR is going to find !!!!!

But as my pretend nadi song goes all this would be either brought to 'Light' or actually orchestrated by the "patham that dances" ...

(bow Tongue Out

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Also want to highlight:
- Points about needle sticking out might be weak (experts please confirm) it was shown only for some murders like Priest who has to put in Insulin injections anyway (Maybe naga is pulling strings here Wink

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like the dosa scene - making us assume)
- Thulasi indicated that the final ingredient 'rahasiyam' is a cross pollination between two other plants, so watch out.
- Why not the Sub-Editor?? (He put the title "ellame koduthan" for the series)

Anyways - Great job Naga and proud to be part of you CR Hubbers!

From: pavalamani pragasam on Tue Apr 25 22:05:21 2006. [Full View]

Very deep! Deep! Deep!
From: ssanjinika on Thu Apr 27 11:10:43 2006. [Full View]

Did CR telecast this week ?I cant find the update..or was the seethapathis daughter cofession this week's episode?
From: detective on Thu Apr 27 12:11:28 2006. [Full View]

Devi (Seethapadhi's daughter) explains the killing further. Last week, she said she planned to use Somu as a scapegoat, as he was already a suspect. This week, she says she poisoned both the dosais. Ideally, she was planning to kill Somu too. (Why should she kill Somu and what would happen to her using-Somu-as-a-scapegoat plan??? Ask Naaga)

That was when Mahadevan takes the plate from her and in her tension, she forgets that it is poisoned!!! But she remembers in a few minutes, runs back and gets the dosai back. She then gives it to Seethapadhi who eats it and dies. Devi screams Somu killed her dad and Somu runs away.

Devi says she was guilty about this all along. But could not keep quite any longer because she was reminded of her dad whenever she gets intimate with her husband. She could not live any longer and hence decides to turn herself in. Mahadevan comes into the room sobbing. He admits he knew his wife killed her own dad, but could not tell it out.

Somu then says he does not believe in these stories. He says the editor must have bought these confessors so that he can escape. AC agrees. Akash is frustrated that the AC is accusing innocent people, like him, and ignoring confessors. Somu says Akash is not innocent - he lied to Somu's parents that he was Somu's friend and he lied to Somu about the suvadi. Somu claims there is no such suvadi. Akash says the suvadi is true and the AC asks where it is now. Akash says it is with his granny and she will not give it away. Somu loses his temper and gets rough with Akash. But AC admit he himself is quite confused at the happenings and asks Akash to leave. Mahadevan continues to sob, as if he too is guilty of hiding something.

Back in Chidhambaram (How far is Chidhambaram from Chennai??), Mani's assistant is dismantling his stuff, preparing to leave. Granny is visibly shaken that Mani was such a rogue. She regrets treating him like her son. Akash tries to dig into Mani's suvadi reserves to see if THE suvadi is there, but in vain. Assistant leaves, taking the beggar with him, but not before the beggar talks somemore nonsense.

AC is in his office. For a change, this looks like an office, different from the storytelling godown. Couple of cops tell him that they caught the driver who drove his water-truck into Palani. AC asks them to bring the driver to his office. He calls Somu too. Once both are there, AC confirms that the police and Somu are consistant in one thing - the truck has "U.K.Transport" written on it. AC interrogates the driver, but he pleads innocent. Just then, the owner of U.K.Transport comes in (I don't remember seeing him before) and says that the driver is innocent and it was he who had problems with Palani.

thodarum........
From: jaykayuk on Thu Apr 27 12:30:20 2006. [Full View]

Thanks Detective for a brilliant update as usual. I was checking this page every few minutes!!

I too feel that the confessions do not look credible. Let us wait and see how Naaga sir takes the story forward from this point.

Waiting for new twists Naaga sir and no tame ending please!!!

cheers
jaykayuk

From: AJ on Thu Apr 27 12:39:19 2006.

detective wrote:

Back in Chidhambaram (How far is Chidhambaram from Chennai??), Mani's assistant is dismantling his stuff, preparing to leave. Granny is visibly shaken that Mani was such a rogue. She regrets treating him like her son. Akash tries to dig into Mani's suvadi reserves to see if THE suvadi is there, but in vain. Assistant leaves, taking the beggar with him, but not before the beggar talks somemore nonsense.

Smile

Let me elaborate, for what it's worth. The beggar just before leaving gives the stick to Akash and says "here, take this. Kadavul will come. Hand it over to Him".

Oh, and Granny looks at Akash and says she just cannot trust anyone anymore.

From: AJ on Thu Apr 27 12:44:48 2006. [Full View]

I think the kadavul the beggar alludes to is Thillai. Thillai will ultimately make a visit to Granny's house to request Somu's nadi, and the tea samiyar in one of the earlier episodes handed Thillai a similar stick and a coconut shell as well, right?
From: aanaa on Thu Apr 27 16:52:37 2006. [Full View]

detective wrote:

thodarum........

thank u

From: rami on Fri Apr 28 2:17:30 2006.

detective wrote:

Back in Chidhambaram (How far is Chidhambaram from Chennai??), Mani's assistant is dismantling his stuff, preparing to leave. Granny is visibly shaken that Mani was such a rogue. She regrets treating him like her son. Akash tries to dig into Mani's suvadi reserves to see if THE suvadi is there, but in vain. Assistant leaves, taking the beggar with him, but not before the beggar talks somemore nonsense.

Smile

Let me elaborate, for what it's worth. The beggar just before leaving gives the stick to Akash and says "here, take this. Kadavul will come. Hand it over to Him".

Oh, and Granny looks at Akash and says she just cannot trust anyone anymore.

Kadavul might be Kumaraguru - GOD..

From: goldkiddo on Fri Apr 28 10:14:37 2006. [Full View]

detective wrote:

Back in Chidhambaram (How far is Chidhambaram from Chennai??),

by road - 220 km
on tv - 1 commercial break
From: goldkiddo on Fri Apr 28 10:24:22 2006. [Full View]

Some stuff I recall about the last episode:

Somu remembers that the water tanker had the words 'Ellai kaliamman thunai" on the back, but the water tanker that the cops find with blood marks does not have those words.

Actually somu is in arthi's house having payasam when ac calls him over. Arthi is now able to walk around, but not without difficulty.

The beggar at patti's house is offended that patti has lost faith in "manushaall". He leaves in a huff saying that if you take food from those who have no faith it will turn to poison
From: laddu on Fri Apr 28 13:18:20 2006. [Full View]

ennaiya...kadaichila onnum puriyalayey....hmmm?!
From: aravindbose on Sat Apr 29 1:41:44 2006. [Full View]

Saw CR in Doha,Qatar for the first time after installing SunTV. Have been reading the updates regularly for over a year.

Granny mentions in front of everyone "all my sons have betrayed me and cannot believe anyone now". Akash appears shocked by this statement. My feeling after this is that he is not her real grandson and a fake.

From: aanaa on Sat Apr 29 11:08:43 2006.

aravindbose wrote:

Granny mentions in front of everyone "all my sons have betrayed me and cannot believe anyone now". Akash appears shocked by this statement. My feeling after this is that he is not her real grandson and a fake.

could be grandson
but
may be for something else

From: ts on Tue May 2 6:30:45 2006.

aravindbose wrote:

Saw CR in Doha,Qatar for the first time after installing SunTV. Have been reading the updates regularly for over a year.

Granny mentions in front of everyone "all my sons have betrayed me and cannot believe anyone now". Akash appears shocked by this statement. My feeling after this is that he is not her real grandson and a fake.

Could be that her son (Akash's dad) is the real culprit. He must be the actual "kadavul" and granny knows about it.

From: Poppoy on Tue May 2 15:52:04 2006.

aravindbose wrote:

Saw CR in Doha,Qatar for the first time after installing SunTV. Have been reading the updates regularly for over a year.

Granny mentions in front of everyone "all my sons have betrayed me and cannot believe anyone now". Akash appears shocked by this statement. My feeling after this is that he is not her real grandson and a fake.

Could be that her son (Akash's dad) is the real culprit. He must be the actual "kadavul" and granny knows about it.

earlier I had given the same idea... let's wait and watch were naga leads us to.. naga sir.. looks like you have become very sillent this week..busy?

From: aravindbose on Wed May 3 15:24:47 2006. [Full View]

Thank you Vijaya T Rajender, today's episode was hilarious
From: AJ on Wed May 3 22:04:47 2006. [Full View]

What a total letdown! Here we are, eagerly awaiting 30 minutes of CR, only to see Ape Man display his histrionics instead. Bah!
From: ts on Thu May 4 5:14:38 2006. [Full View]

"SunTv la Naaga sollaraar rahasiyam...
Vaikoku 40 kodila JJ vechchaar vasiyam...
6 kodi tamizhargal nenjula ratham kasiyum...
adanaala ellarum kalaignarkku vote podanam avasiyam...

Enna forumla thittaraar AJ
andha amma peyaro JJ
TR aayittan ippo TS'su
CRku nethu pudingiyaachu fuse"

From: kathir on Thu May 4 5:29:50 2006.

aravindbose wrote:

Saw CR in Doha,Qatar for the first time after installing SunTV. Have been reading the updates regularly for over a year.

Granny mentions in front of everyone "all my sons have betrayed me and cannot believe anyone now". Akash appears shocked by this statement. My feeling after this is that he is not her real grandson and a fake.

Actually Pathi said, all who came as my son, ....
one of the son she is refering to is Mani who has disappointed her in little somu case........
not her real son. So she must experienced something bad from someone else that she accept as her own son too...

my 2 cents...

...kathir

From: kathir on Thu May 4 5:32:50 2006.

"SunTv la Naaga sollaraar rahasiyam...
Vaikoku 40 kodila JJ vechchaar vasiyam...
6 kodi tamizhargal nenjula ratham kasiyum...
adanaala ellarum kalaignarkku vote podanam avasiyam...

Enna forumla thittaraar AJ
andha amma peyaro JJ
TR aayittan ippo TS'su
CRku nethu pudingiyaachu fuse"

Laughing

Laughing

Laughing

Laughing

Very Happy

From: aanaa on Thu May 4 8:11:02 2006. [Full View]

did telecast after news on
Monday - alli_raj
tuesday - top 10
why not CR???

longggggggg 1 week wait ???
From: AJ on Thu May 4 10:35:19 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

"SunTv la Naaga sollaraar rahasiyam...
.
.
CRku nethu pudingiyaachu fuse"

That was brilliant TS!
From: laddu on Thu May 4 12:50:25 2006. [Full View]

I was so disappointed yesterday to see the thadi guy instead of our serial....couldn't they substitute the news time instead..its the show that makes everyone fall asleep....frustration..i'm probably too criticle...
From: ssanjinika on Thu May 4 14:33:36 2006. [Full View]

what ?what ?whats happening??
CR-kku fuse pudingiyacha ??
Appo serial oda end???
From: singularthing on Thu May 4 15:00:35 2006. [Full View]

really got irritated to see TR taking CR's time. they could hav telecasted that in sun news.
From: aanaa on Thu May 4 18:11:53 2006. [Full View]

Naga

your opinion please
on TR on CR schedule?
From: Naaga on Fri May 5 1:21:32 2006. [Full View]

aanaa wrote:

Naga

your opinion please
on TR on CR schedule?

It came as a surprise to us too.....
When channels have political leanings and the election is around the bend, we can expect more of these to come.
CR loses just one episode and will resume on the 10th of May (Hopefully)........lest they decide to have special programmes for the poll-results eve.
From: aadhirai on Fri May 5 4:38:25 2006. [Full View]

Hi guys, I do understand that this serail is of diferent genre and class. But elections are goin to decide fate of crores. I personally belive election news , manifesto should be given main priority in all TV including Sun, Jaya, Vijay and etc . Serials can WAIT.

From: ts on Fri May 5 4:53:49 2006.

aadhirai wrote:

Hi guys, I do understand that this serail is of diferent genre and class. But elections are goin to decide fate of crores. I personally belive election news , manifesto should be given main priority in all TV including Sun, Jaya, Vijay and etc . Serials can WAIT.

Not starting a debate but just answering to your post !

...Cant control it� didn�t know TR will have such an effect on me �

"Ungal karuthukku nandri Aadhirai �
Election programukku illai china thirai
Dmk vukku venum muthirai
Adhukku enga mudhugil en kuthurai�.."

"Suntv ku India vil illai sandhaa
Adanaala panraanga romba bandhaa
Velinaatil naanga kattanam kaasu
Adhaiyum konjam yosichchu pesu�"

ssajjinika wrote:

what ?what ?whats happening??
CR-kku fuse pudingiyacha ??
Appo serial oda end???

let me re-phrase it...
"CRku indha vaaram pudingiyaachu fuse"

From: aanaa on Fri May 5 8:11:25 2006. [Full View]

Naaga wrote:

It came as a surprise to us too.....
.

same Thursday too
so today too the same - election ??

cross our fingers on next Wednesday

From: ssanjinika on Fri May 5 16:48:50 2006.

[tscii]
Not starting a debate but just answering to your post !

...Cant control it� didn�t know TR will have such an effect on me �

"Ungal karuthukku nandri Aadhirai �
Election programukku illai china thirai
Dmk vukku venum muthirai
Adhukku enga mudhugil en kuthurai�.."

Laughing

appadiyE paesarenga

Laughing

From: Sanguine Sridhar on Fri May 5 18:05:12 2006. [Full View]

Since i am coming in night shift these days i missed CR and i used to read the updation here in this thread.Last wednesday was off for me.Eagerly i switched on the TV first i got later Good show TR!!

From: aanaa on Sat May 6 8:17:42 2006.

Sanguine Sridhar wrote:

Since i am coming in night shift these days i missed CR and i used to read the updation here in this thread.Last wednesday was off for me.Eagerly i switched on the TV first i got Evil or Very Mad

Evil or Very Mad

Mad

ROTFL

Good show TR!! Laughing

Laughing

thats life
"naayai kandaal kallai kaNam
kallaik kannadaal nyai kanam"

take it easssyy

From: VENKIRAJA on Thu May 11 4:50:05 2006. [Full View]

NAAGA'S serials have aroused hype from its inception.
now they telecast vidaathu karuippu on raj tv everyday 9.30
it was not long that marma dhesam-
part one-ragasiyam,
part two-iyanthirapparavai
part three-swarnaregai
were over.now its vidaathu karuppu.
however his best i think is C.R [his other one is rudhraveenai]
naaga has done even comedy-ramany vs ramany-1&2
-V.R,an ardent fan ofNAAGA
From: ts on Thu May 11 5:05:57 2006. [Full View]

The lorry company owner tells them about how he knew Palani. He says that palani was living in the same street where he was operating from and they came to know each other. Palani had asked him for some help to release a book and he was thinking of giving him a few thousands. One day, he says, Palani had come to his office regarding the book and had asked him Rs 2 Lakhs to release it. The lorry owner says that he didnt have that much money and was only thinking of giving a few thousands anyway. When palani started to demand, the lorry owner says that he told him off and Palani was abusive and very grumpy. Some employees saw this and they threated palani of dire consequences if he messes with the owner and hence palani left the area.

The AC asks him to tell more. The owner reluctantly says that Palani, who was absconding for 6 months came back one day and had started a rumour in the area that he had an extra marital affair with the owner's wife. This had put a lot of pressure on the owner that he sent his family to their village. Th owner says that palani had started to extort him on the issue and started to demand 5 lakhs now. He says that he was ready to give him the money. One day, when he was bringing a lorry back from the shed, he says that he saw Palani in the street when Somu was scolding him for bad driving. When palani drove past, he says that he turned the lorry and cornered palani thus crushing him to death. The owner says that it was not preplanned but he is to be blamed and asks his driver to be released. He says that he had changed the punctured tyre and when the police came around, he was adamant in saying that none of his drivers were on duty that day, thus diverting the police elsewhere. He pleads guilty and asks the driver to be released.

AC and somu are alone in the room and AC asks somu for his opinion. Somu asks him if he believes in the story... AC says that may be he made a mistake arresting the editor...

Somu comes to Arthis house and the tea samiyar is there to intimidate him asking him where he had been. Somu gets irritated and asks him if he can understand anything that somu might say. He says that he had been to see Adiyapatham. Tea samiyar tells him that Adiyapatham is in pancha sabai. He asks somu to go to and see Akasam. Somu ignores him and goes inside. He asks Sivakami why the man is hanging around. Sivakami says that he had once asked Thillai to go and meet sivakami. She says that she didnt know if he was referring to her or the ambal at Chidambaram. She says that he probably wants Somu to go to Chidambaram as it is the Akasa sthalam. Somu gets a spark in his brain and the rusted cog wheels start to turn. He realises what Thillai told him on the phone and tells Sivakami that he knows where Thillai might be. He says that he has to leave for Chidambaram as soon as possible and promises to bring Thillai back.

PD is defeated by the granny who refuses to give the nadi. She requests him not to speak of the nadi again. He is so dejected and leaves the house worrying about what he will tell Thillai. Abi goes to Akash and asks for a promise not to look for the nadi again. Akash gets very miffed and asks her to mind her own business and goes inside the house looking for the nadi. Abi goes to the granny crying, and asks her for the nadi. She tells hte granny that she will burn it so that Akash will never look for it. Granny tells her that she will do it for her. Abi is not happy and pesters the granny for the chuvadi. Granny asks her to bring the Neithal magazines from Akash's room. She looks for them and finds one on top of the shelf. She clears the mess there and finds a nadi wrapped in a plastic paper...thodarum...
From: AJ on Thu May 11 11:12:26 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

The lorry company owner tells them about how he knew Palani. She clears the mess there and finds a nadi wrapped in a plastic paper...thodarum...

The lorry company owner tells he wanted his wife to have a good education and hence he let her study. She earned quite a few degrees. Once she wanted to go to Anamalai university to take a practical exam and was gone for a couple of weeks. Palani somehow came to know if this and came back on the exact same day his wife returned from the exam. Then he spread the rumor that him and the owner's wife had absconded for a couple of weeks and that they were having an affair.
The owner tells the AC that he had only meant to intimidate Palani when he followed him in his lorry, and had no intention of killing him. It was just an accident.
Tea samiyar tells Somu to go see Akasam and only when he does that the ragasiyam will unfold. The ragasiyam is with Akasam. He also says Somu is blinded by his anger and haste and hence is not able to comprehend the ragasiyam.

Somu at Arthi's place and tells Sivakami that he doesn't know if the tea beggar wants him to see Akash, or Akasam. He asks Sivakami if he knows who Akash is. She says she doesn't, but recalls Thillai mentioning in the past that he had stayed at their place in Chidambaram once. Somu tells her, Akash is one of the reasons for all this confusion and mess. Sivakami convinces him that the tea beggar meant Akasa Sthalam which is Chidambaram, and Somu gets reminded of his conversation with Thillai rajan over the phone, when Thillai recites a couple of verses of the nadi which says the medicine (oudatham) exists in Akasa Sthalam. Somu immediately connects Akasa Sthalam to Chidambaram and says he overlooked this fact at that time. If he hadn't, he could have fetched Thillai back home long ago. He also says, he was in such a soup all the while, as he failed to pay attention to a lot of such details. He tells Sivakami he will leave for Chidambaram right away to bring Thillai home.

Dikshitar says if granny doesn't give the naadi, his gurunathar's work and wish will be incomplete. Granny asks why Thillai is interested in the naadi. What has he got to do with it. Dikshitar explains that his sister's cure is in Thillai's hands. But granny is unrelenting.

Granny asks Abirami to look for the two neithal magazines in Akash's room. Abi finally finds the magazines and naadi kattu on top of the cabinet (remember the cabinet which almost falls on Akash once when he kodanjifies for the naadi inside it?).
From: laddu on Thu May 11 13:42:53 2006. [Full View]

This Abirami was the one who was helping him in the beginning to find the nadi and now she wants him to promise he won't look for it again...I guess editor wants her character to be perceived as innocent but if she could make a good looking guy (for her) to fall in love with her madly can't she be smart enough to get the nadi to him so he can be deprieved of all the tension he's been going through lately?

I thought the lorry story was such a drag...city's or places are not so small to spread a rumor like that if it wasn't valid. Our tamilnadu friends will beat him up to death if he had to ruin a woman's reputation. CR can be dragged a bit but make it a little more interesting than this Naga...and also this investigation...is really..really torture for us viewers...may be an other form of investigation will be a good idea like just let somu do the investigation..because the cop believes somu...so much..again friends this is only my view..so don't take it too personal ok...plus I've had the "Fuze" drink which is making me a bit hyper...
From: singularthing on Thu May 11 14:32:58 2006. [Full View]

thanks a lot ts &aj, for giving the updates

From: AJ on Thu May 11 15:55:36 2006.

laddu wrote:

This Abirami was the one who was helping him in the beginning to find the nadi and now she wants him to promise he won't look for it again...I guess editor wants her character to be perceived as innocent but if she could make a good looking guy (for her) to fall in love with her madly can't she be smart enough to get the nadi to him so he can be deprieved of all the tension he's been going through lately?

Abirami does help Akash initially, but later joins forces with Granny, as she fears something bad might happen to Akash if the nadi comes out, as per Granny's prediction.

As for the murder confessions, 3 down, 9 more to go. If all of them happen to be unrelated, we probably might have to sit through all of the sob stories. Only time will tell.
Wish the AC weren't such a dud.

From: aanaa on Thu May 11 18:40:53 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

......thodarum...

thank you
From: AJ on Wed May 17 22:55:11 2006. [Full View]

Abirami tells Granny she has hidden the suvadi in an obvious location. Granny says Akash will not look there as it is in his own room. Abi presses Granny to burn the suvadi right away. Granny sends Abi home assuring her that she will do so in Akash�s absence.

Thillai is miffed at Dikshitar for not bringing the suvadi from Granny�s house. Abi comes home and Thillai learns from her that the suvadi in Granny's possession is none other than Somu's and ascertains the Somu-Eesan mentioned in Arthi's nadi as one of the 12 nadis he's seeking. He gets ready to approach Granny himself when Abi says Thillai will not get the suvadi, as Granny would have burned it by now. Upon hearing this, Thillai and Dikshitar rush towards Granny�s house. In the meantime, Akash is his usual kodanjifying self and while at it, gets injured with a gash on his forehead. Granny starts crying and tells Akash that bloodshed is bound to happen if the suvadi comes out and pleads with Akash to not look for the suvadi anymore. Just then, Panchu (little Somu�s dad) is at their doorstep in a drunken state. Granny asks him to take Akash to the doctor but Akash goes alone. Granny asks Panchu to guard the door as she has to take care of some business.

Granny fetches the suvadi from the top of the cupboard and heads towards the backyard and douses the suvadi in kerosene. Just then, Thillai and Dikshitar enter and on not finding Granny in the house, rush towards the courtyard. They catch Granny in the nick of time. Thillai pleads with Granny not to burn the suvadi as the medicine for both his daughter and Dikshitar is contained in it. Granny rubbishes the thought and says they have to resign to their own fates and nothing can be done about it. She says the suvadi is her business. Just then Somu enters and on seeing the commotion, grabs the suvadi from Granny and says it his his suvadi and Granny has no business with it. The three of them leave the house and head towards Dikshitar�s, when Akash returns and spots them. He questions Granny on why she gave Somu the suvadi instead of him. Granny says she has handed Somu�s property to him and now she can live in peace. Akash is pissed and looks up Somu in his cell phone, but hesitates.

Thillai, Somu and Dikshitar reach home. Thillai and Dikshitar get ready to read the suvadi after seeking God�s blessings. Somu starts to pack Thillai�s belongings and asks Thillai to leave with him. Thillai refuses to leave the place until the suvadi is read and a cure for his daughter is found. Somu tells Thillai that Arthi is getting better and though she can�t talk, she is able to move, and the latest test results show that the virus has been arrested. He says he can accept Arthi just the way she is and doesn�t expect anything more. Thillai is annoyed and tells Somu he will not compromise for anything less that his daughter�s original self. Plus he won�t find anyone who can read the suvadi for him if he leaves. Dikshitar takes Thillai and Somu into the puja room to commence the reading of the suvadi and shuts the door. He asks Abi to cook for them and to leave them alone for some time. The sister is sitting near the door and her nose starts to bleed. She goes inside and wipes the blood with a cotton ball, and puts the stained cotton into a polythene bag which is full of such stained cotton balls.

Thodarum�.
From: bingleguy on Wed May 17 23:16:57 2006. [Full View]

awesome ...the story is really gettin the real treat ! cha inga orey mazhai ... i reached home very late ! yesterday ! infact alangatti mazhai in Bangalore !

From: ts on Thu May 18 4:07:24 2006.

Just then Somu enters and on seeing the commotion, grabs the suvadi from Granny and says it his his suvadi and Granny has no business with it. The three of them leave the house and head towards Dikshitar�s, when Akash returns and spots them.

.. all along Panchu is blowing into a bottle which sounds like a conch, a standard protocol, indicating Transfer of authority/power.

From: laddu on Thu May 18 8:43:06 2006. [Full View]

Finally things are moving....appada..no investigation this time.

Akash doesn't have to nag patti for the nadi...it went to Somu. Patti kept saying once the Nadi comes out there will be lot of blood shed..and..Akash gets hurt and bleeds..and..they show the lady with cancer bleed on her nose....and she hides the cotton under her pillow....weird actions...does she have to hide..everyone in her family knows she is very ill, isnt' it?

Anyway, I'm so glad for the change of phase and hopefully, we'll know what the Nadi says next week and may the inpector would have more leadss....
From: aanaa on Thu May 18 18:07:16 2006. [Full View]

AJ wrote:

Thodarum�.

thank you
From: crazy on Fri May 19 9:23:23 2006. [Full View]

thank u ts and AJ!
From: ts on Thu May 25 5:09:30 2006. [Full View]

Akash is outside PD's house, reluctant to go inside. Abi sees him from inside and takes him inside. She gos to Kamakshi and tells her of it. Kamakshi rushes outside and welcomes him. He tells him that he reminds her of his dad. Akash is uncomfortable with her touching him and tries to evade. He asks Abi if he can meet Thillai. ABi knocks the door and Somu opens it. He sees Akash and asks him why he had come. Akash asks him if he can get a copy of the olai to do some research on it. Somu tells him that it is his olai and he doesnt like publishing his life history. Akash gets miffed and tells him that he will ask Thillai. PD and Thillai are taking notes from the olai and they welcome Akash. Akash asks him if he can have a copy. Thillai tells him that they are in the process of decoding the olai. PD tells Akash that he will give him a photocopy of the olai once they are done with it. Somu intervenes and tells him that the final decision will be his as it is his olai.

Akash pleads to Somu for a copy and Somu asks him why he needs it. Akash tells him that he is doing a research on Somu's life and thats why he wanted the thumb impression and the olai. Somu tells him that he is hiding something and to speak the truth. Akash looks at Kakashi who signs him not to tell anything... Akash gets angry and asks Somu if he can give the olai or not. Somu refuses and Akash prepares to leave. Kamakshi comes to Akash and touches him and he asks her not to touch him. Abi asks him why he is angry and why he doesnt want Kamaksh i to touch him. He tells her that he will talk to her about it later and leaves.

It is late at night and Natarajan is in the police station waiting for the AC. AC arrives and asks him what he is up to. Natarajan tells him that he wanted a copy of a complaint that Ponnambalam's wife filed against her brother. AC asks him for the details. He says that some olais from Ponnambalam's house were stolen soon after his death and his wife has complained that her brother had stolen them and started practice with them. Ac asks him whats the significance. Natarajan tells him that may be her brother asked Ponnambalam for help anda few nadis, may be Ponnambalam refused and may be he killed Ponnambalam and took the nadis. AC chuckles and asks him to look at the many "may be's" in his statement. Natarajan says that he has to consider them being the defence counsel. AC asks the inspector in charge to give copies of the complaint to Natarajan and tells him that he will enquire about it. Natarajan asks him to do it quickly as he is moving bail the next day.

Kumaraguru is at the court where his bail is being moved. Judge asks the PP if they want to oppose the bail. PP converses with the AC and says that they are opposing the bail as KG is an influential person and will tamper with the evidence. Judge rubbishes it and asks them why they have him in police custody and not judicial custody. The PP has no answer. Judge tells him that as the charge sheet has been filed, there is no reason for them to have KG in their custody. PP says that they have further evidence and are considering filing additional charge sheets. Natarajan tells the judge about Seethapathy, Mani and Palani and says that their charges are very shaky. Judge asks the PP about it and the PP says that they are removing those charges. Judge gets irritated and grants bail. AC is devastrated. He meets KG outside and tells him that it is only temporary release and that he will be done for his murders. KG tells him that he wanted to come out and has done it. He doesnt care if he is convicted later and asks the AC to move on. AC asks his deputy to get the Inspector from Chidambaram police station on line.

The Inspector comes to Granny's house and sees Panchu outside. He asks Panchu why he is drunk always and tells him that thats why he is not welcome in the temple anymore. He goes inside and looks for Akash. He asks granny where Akash is and that he want the olai that he has. Granny asks him to leave his shoes outside but he doesnt care. Just then Akash arrives and the Policeman asns him about the Nadi. Akash says that he doesnt have it but the man wouldnt listen. Granny asks him to leave his shoes outside and he can have the nadi when he does that. THe man goes outside when she rushes to Akash's room and brings the duplicate nadi. She hands it over to him and he leaves. She tells Akash that she is very happy that there are no nadis in the house. Panchu tells the Policeman that it is not because he is drunk that he is not welcome in the temple. He says that he will not even go that side if he is drunk. Its only that when he was cleaning up the temple, he had accidentally chopped off a few thillai trees and that the old man in the temple is furious about it. The Policeman says that the thillai tree is anyway a poisonous tree and leaves. Panchu exclaims that why the old man was cross about him chopping a few poisonous trees.

KG arrives at the farm and approaches Thulasi. Vishu tells him that she is angry and not to disturb her. KG tells him that he knows when to talk to his daughter and approaches her. She is very furious and calls him a murderer. He denies the charges and tells her that it was Padma etal who kidnapped Arthi. She asks him why he didnt report them to the police. He says that he was desperate to look for a cure for her. She rubbishes it and tells him that she tried the Aids virus on herself as she didnt want to hurt anyone else and asks him to leave. Vishnu takes her inside. KG breaks down... Natarajan consoles him and tells him that the kids do not appreciate what their parents do for them in their best interests and that they both are sailing in the same boat. KG tells him that no matter what she thinks, he is determined... thodarum...

Looks like Akash's dad has something to do with all this. I think, he does it so that he can get a cure for Kamakshi (who he refused to marry) and Akash knows about it.

Nice Touche by Naga bringing the tree chopping incident into the serial. Atleast let this serve as an appeal to morons.
From: bingleguy on Thu May 25 5:23:55 2006. [Full View]

Phew .... had a real feeling of watching it LIVE !

Kudos Naaga sir !
From: crazy on Thu May 25 6:25:23 2006. [Full View]

TS thank u again
From: aanaa on Thu May 25 8:34:36 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

. Atleast let this serve as an appeal to morons.

thank youTS

missed last night show
From: laddu on Thu May 25 14:06:46 2006. [Full View]

I really liked the twists and turns on yesterday's episode.
I strongly believe Akash has something to do with it just not money but something that we are not yet aware of. Poor Tulasi is innocent remember how much we used to think that she might have a hand it in but ofcourse her father has a motive-to find a cure. This "x" old man from the chidambaram temple..that the drunkard mentions...have we seen him in the episode before? why should he be mad at him for cutting off poisonous trees? I was even doubting the police guy who came to Akash's house for the Nadi...its interesting..something to look forward to.

Nice update Ts and who are you referring to as "morons"??

From: ts on Fri May 26 5:50:40 2006.

laddu wrote:

This "x" old man from the chidambaram temple..that the drunkard mentions...have we seen him in the episode before? why should he be mad at him for cutting off poisonous trees?

Nice update Ts and who are you referring to as "morons"??

I dont think we have seen the Old man from the temple.

Thillai tree is the sthala vriksham of the temple and there was not one to be seen near the temple for a very long time. The tree(s) in question were the only surviving ones in the temple. A few months back, they were chopped by some worker in the temple, while cleaning the temple for some function. Naga had mantioned this incident in this thread (a few pages back).

It is such unscrupulous characters that i call "morons" as they dont understand the values of our culture.

From: goldkiddo on Fri May 26 8:42:09 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Nice Touche by Naga bringing the tree chopping incident into the serial. Atleast let this serve as an appeal to morons.

Agree with you ts. Thank you Mr. Naaga, for bringing this real life incident into the serial. People should realize its relevance.

As for the duplicate naadi, if I remember right it is kumaraguru's.
But since it was made by anbarasu, I wonder if it will tell kumaraguru's story or just some rubbish.

Well we are sure to find that out...
From: rshan on Fri May 26 18:39:13 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

It is such unscrupulous characters that i call "morons" as they dont understand the values of our culture.

Not to start a debate, just to point out... the person who cut the tree is not to be blamed here... he/she most likely was just a daily laborer doing the chores assigned to; you cannot expect them to know the religious/medical/sentimental whatever significance of each and every tree and bush. In India, most of the work happen with word of mouth instructions and "experience"; no defined process/procedure. In US for example, when they clear a wooded lot for construction, they survey the lot, determine which trees and bushes need to be kept for aesthetics and/or other reasons and clearly mark them with construction fence before letting the crew to raze down the rest.
From: shalitha on Fri May 26 18:46:51 2006. [Full View]

Hi rshan,
welcome to the HUB!! WHere are you from???
From: rshan on Fri May 26 19:12:53 2006. [Full View]

shalitha wrote:

Hi rshan,
welcome to the HUB!! WHere are you from???

Thanks. Originally from Mannargudi, Thanjavoor Dt. Now, Charlotte, NC, USA.
From: shalitha on Fri May 26 19:19:18 2006. [Full View]

rshan wrote:

shalitha wrote:

Hi rshan,
welcome to the HUB!! WHere are you from???

Thanks. Originally from Mannargudi, Thanjavoor Dt. Now, Charlotte, NC, USA.

where is Mannargudi? Is it in India??? oh USA. cool...
From: bpbp on Tue May 30 1:55:58 2006. [Full View]

rshan wrote:

shalitha wrote:

Hi rshan,
welcome to the HUB!! WHere are you from???

Thanks. Originally from Mannargudi, Thanjavoor Dt. Now, Charlotte, NC, USA.

What are you doing in Charlotte? I did my Masters at UNC-Charlotte. Nice place......

currently in San Diego, CA.

From: mirunmanish on Tue May 30 5:41:21 2006.

[quote="goldkiddo"]

As for the duplicate naadi, if I remember right it is kumaraguru's.
But since it was made by anbarasu, I wonder if it will tell kumaraguru's story or just some rubbish.

Well we are sure to find that out...

sorry if i hv missed it, but wat is thatt duplicate naadi u hv mentioned??does it hv anything to do with that aids virus?

From: mirunmanish on Thu Jun 1 4:33:16 2006. [Full View]

y no updates detective/TS???
From: bingleguy on Thu Jun 1 5:10:22 2006. [Full View]

Yesterday it was pretty interesting !
Looking for ur updates TS !
From: ts on Thu Jun 1 5:34:25 2006. [Full View]

Ac brings Thandavan, Ponnambalam's machan for questioning. He denies all charges at first. AC shows him Ponnambalam's post mortem report tells him that he knew that Thandavan got oxyditoxin from Dr Mohan. Thandavan tells him that he didnt get it to kill Ponnambalam but for some other purpose. After "proper" police questioning, he starts to talk.

He tells the AC that Ponnambalam ill treated him eventhogh he is his brother in law. He wanted to study but Ponnambalam, who he depends on did not allow him to. He says that ponnambalam had asked him to start learning the art of nadi josiyam but would never teach him anything. He says that ponnambalam even came in between a deal he proposed with someone in Vaidheswaran koil and got it cancelled. His sister would not help either. She wanted him to be patient which irritated him a lot. He says he read an article by Mohan about Oxyditoxin, where Mohan had mentioned that the poison is colourless and odourless, and had approached Mohan to get some from him. He got some poison by paying Rs 15000 per ounce, convincing Mohan that the poison was to preserve the nadis from insects. He says that he was too afraid to do it and hence had hidden it amongst other chemicals used to clean the olais.

One day, he says, he was asleep and the others were busy getting water from the tanker. When ponnambalam saw him, he swore at him with very harsh words. Thandavan says he got very wild and when Ponnambalam asked him to bring some water to drink, he added the oxyditoxin to it, thus killing him in an instant. He then packed all the nadis in a plastic bag and dropped it into the well at the backyard, which was dry, only to collect it later to start his own practise.

He says that the police had Somu in their mind and hence he got away easily and that his practise was going good. His sister had complained about it to the police but then he had convinced her to come and stay with him. The police didnt give much importance to the complaint initially which made him believe that he got away. He pleads to the AC to arrest him. AC looks confused.

Somu is reading the nadi (tamil translation) and PD is explaining to him the details. The nadi speaks of Somu's, study,job etc. PD asks somu if anyone with the name of Vishnu's wife had helped him. Somu tells him that he was initially under a lady by name Rukmini who helped him a lot. There is a line about "kAlanin magan" and PD interprets it for Dharman and asks Somu if he knew someone by name Dharman. Somu tells him that his Tamil teacher's name was Dharman, who had a big influence on him. Abi tells PD that she thinks he is interpreting it wrongly. She tells him that Mani's version of this was pointing to Kumaraguru. She tells that the nadi even has mani's name and asks Somu to read the verse. The verse has the name "manikandan" and goes like "agathiyan vaayaal" or something like that. Somu asks PD what that means. There is someone at the door who answers that it refers to the nadi josiyan.

It is their grocer who brings a box of groceries to deliver. Abi tells him that they were intended for the granny and that he is delivering it there by mistake. He asks Abi to get some water to drink. Thillai asks Somu to read the maruthuva kandam again as there are some lines that are cryptic.

Somu reads it and before PD could interpret, the grocer asks Somu if he had some problem with his stomach. Somu says yes. Grocer says that it should have been cured byt itself. Thillai says that he was the one who treated somu and the disease disappeared when somu started to walk. Somu reads on and the grocer interprets something to Mahodiram, disease of stone, and somu will die of it probably.. PD is dumbfolded. Grocer asks them to excuse him for his bad manners. PD tells him that he had decrypted something that he hilself didnt know of and thanks him. Grocer tells him that he was from Vaidheesaran koil and hence could decrypt some of them.

After the grocer leaves, Somu tells PD that he sees mohodiram as maha udhiram.. he will probably die of massive blood loss. Just then Kamakshi coems out of her room, with blood oozing from her nose and collapses. Somu, thillai and PD carry her away to the doctor. PD asks Abi to stay at home...thodarum
From: crazy on Thu Jun 1 5:41:12 2006. [Full View]

thanks ts
From: aanaa on Thu Jun 1 8:08:15 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

..thodarum

thanks for the quick 1
From: mirunmanish on Thu Jun 1 10:01:30 2006. [Full View]

thanks TS.though i watch it on tv i prefer to read ur updates which r more intersting
From: ts on Thu Jun 1 10:28:31 2006. [Full View]

mirunmanish wrote:

thanks TS.though i watch it on tv i prefer to read ur updates which r more intersting

Thanks

One point from last night's episode ...

Thandavan says that Ponnambalam did not even bother to teach him anything about the nadi josiyam, let alone reading vattezhuthu. All that Thandavan did was to clean/take care of the nadis, along with fellow employees.

How did he then start his own business with nadis that he nicked from ponnambalam? Looks like he is lying thru the teeth.
From: AJ on Thu Jun 1 11:00:58 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

How did he then start his own business with nadis that he nicked from ponnambalam? Looks like he is lying thru the teeth.

Good point TS.
From: AJ on Thu Jun 1 13:30:41 2006. [Full View]

A question I have is this... Somu reads pretty effortlessly from the nadi on last night's episode....does that mean he knows vatta ezhuthu? or am I missing something?
From: Poppoy on Thu Jun 1 15:04:50 2006. [Full View]

AJ wrote:

A question I have is this... Somu reads pretty effortlessly from the nadi on last night's episode....does that mean he knows vatta ezhuthu? or am I missing something?

Somu doesn't read from the nadi.. but from the notes taken.. i guess by Thillairajan.
From: aanaa on Thu Jun 1 17:41:53 2006. [Full View]

AJ wrote:

A question I have is this... Somu reads pretty effortlessly from the nadi on last night's episode....does that mean he knows vatta ezhuthu? or am I missing something?

somu reads from notes which already taken and not from nadi
From: AJ on Thu Jun 1 21:22:42 2006. [Full View]

Thanks Poppoy and aanaa for the clarification.
From: AJ on Thu Jun 1 21:26:43 2006. [Full View]

Mr. Naga, is it within your scope to divulge info. on how many episodes of CR are yet to be aired?
From: bingleguy on Thu Jun 1 23:18:33 2006. [Full View]

Thanks a TON TS !
From: sreeramtcs on Fri Jun 2 1:27:04 2006. [Full View]

In last episode while Thandavan climbs upsteps after giving poison to Ponnambalam, there was a hand which locked the door from outside. Any idea whos had it will be?
From: bpbp on Fri Jun 2 1:28:35 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

...doctor. PD asks Abi to stay at home...thodarum

These days, CR is kind of boring. How the heck a grocer is able to read all those s-h-i-t? And even if he can, why the heck Somu & co just say bye to him without getting more clarifications on the naadi...totally insane.

Just 25 mins a week...too many knots...and most of the festivals fall on wednesdays...oh god it's going to take forever to get rid of this serial...
From: bingleguy on Fri Jun 2 1:32:50 2006. [Full View]

sreeramtcs wrote:

In last episode while Thandavan climbs upsteps after giving poison to Ponnambalam, there was a hand which locked the door from outside. Any idea whos had it will be?

Excellent observation i too saw that !
Guess that was the hand of a LADY !
From: bpbp on Fri Jun 2 1:40:31 2006. [Full View]

I got totally relieved with the end of Kanavarukaga serial, the serial which is totally insane. Now, I am happy to see Comedy time in that slot...I dont think it will be in that slot for a long time...

All these daily mega serials are so stupid...The directors dont have to give some work to their brain if they have one!

Another serial which really irritates me is Selvangal, especially bcos it comes in the tv at the time I get ready for my office.

Why dont the daily mega serial director do thinking? Why not many comedy serials? Why even the few comedy serials are not comic like before (s.v.sekar, crazy mohan dramas).

One scene in Selvi:

A guy by name GJ goes to Bank and asks the teller to withdraw some money from his account, the teller looks in the computer and says there is no balance in it. Then he gives his debit/credit card and asks the teller to see how much he can take. The teller again looks into the computer and does something and says no balance. you know what the teller was doing all the time in the computer??????Guess???? He is just looking in the windows explorer and opens some folder...that's it...
From: bingleguy on Fri Jun 2 2:13:17 2006. [Full View]

bpbp whats the connection bw ur post n CR !
do u mean to say, weekly once serials are better ?
From: bpbp on Fri Jun 2 2:40:57 2006. [Full View]

bingleguy wrote:

bpbp whats the connection bw ur post n CR !
do u mean to say, weekly once serials are better ?

No No No... My last post is nothing to do with CR but just an outcome of my hatred with all those mega serials especially the ones which are telecasted daily....

This is my point: If it is a mega serial telecasted every day, then make it interesting to watch...if it is a serial telecasted once a week, never drag it...even an interesting serial will become boring once it gets dragged....
From: bingleguy on Fri Jun 2 2:44:56 2006. [Full View]

No need to hammer me
Ur post needed a DIGRESSION mark dude !
Mistake is not mine !

Please do mark things that are not related with a particular thread as DIGRESSION !
From: bpbp on Fri Jun 2 4:31:33 2006. [Full View]

bingleguy wrote:

No need to hammer me
Ur post needed a DIGRESSION mark dude !
Mistake is not mine !

Please do mark things that are not related with a particular thread as DIGRESSION !

Yes Mr.Veteran Hubber! I did it
From: ts on Fri Jun 2 8:20:51 2006. [Full View]

The scenes where Thandavan poisons Ponnambalam and runs upstairs is his narration to the AC... a flashback. He doesnt seem to have noticed the hand locking the door as he did not panic or ask the person why he/she locked the door? If he did not see it, How is it that we see it in his "flashback" ?
Very strange....

From: AJ on Fri Jun 2 10:34:03 2006.

The scenes where Thandavan poisons Ponnambalam and runs upstairs is his narration to the AC... a flashback. He doesnt seem to have noticed the hand locking the door as he did not panic or ask the person why he/she locked the door? If he did not see it, How is it that we see it in his "flashback" ?
Very strange....

I think the hand that locks the door is Savarimuthu's. If you noticed, when Thandavan rushes out to see his b-i-l on the oonjal, there's an ink pad beside him. Which means, Savarimuthu had just been there to take his fingerprint.
It appeared to me as if Thandavan did notice someone locking the door (he stands there for a second intrigued), and then rushes upstairs.

From: sdhjosh on Fri Jun 2 20:18:13 2006. [Full View]

Hi Every body,

I am a newbie hubber, Sdhjosh.

I had read all the posts about CR and I was very much interested in joining the discussion.

I dont have a sun tv connection and I follow the serial only through the updates from TS, Detective and others.

I am very curious to watch the serial after reading all the updates.
Can any one tell me if I can download the serial from any websites ?

Or if some one has been recording the serial from the first episode then can they upload it in any of the uploading sites like megaupload.com ?

I think one hubber named gmax had recorded and had given the link in this forum but the link is not active anymore.

Any other information regarding downloading the serial is appreciated.

Hope to be in regular touch with the hubbers,

Thnx.

From: balajiarun on Fri Jun 2 22:49:32 2006.

bpbp wrote:

...doctor. PD asks Abi to stay at home...thodarum

These days, CR is kind of boring. How the heck a grocer is able to read all those s-h-i-t? And even if he can, why the heck Somu & co just say bye to him without getting more clarifications on the naadi...totally insane.

Just 25 mins a week...too many knots...and most of the festivals fall on wednesdays...oh god it's going to take forever to get rid of this serial...

I totally agree with you bpbp!

Not Worthy

From: mirunmanish on Sat Jun 3 0:58:58 2006.

The scenes where Thandavan poisons Ponnambalam and runs upstairs is his narration to the AC... a flashback. He doesnt seem to have noticed the hand locking the door as he did not panic or ask the person why he/she locked the door? If he did not see it, How is it that we see it in his "flashback" ?
Very strange....

u know any tamil serial/movie is supposed to be like that(see wat u actually don't know.not neccessarily the narrator shuld know that part)

From: mirunmanish on Sat Jun 3 1:00:56 2006.

balajiarun wrote:

bpbp wrote:

...doctor. PD asks Abi to stay at home...thodarum

These days, CR is kind of boring. How the heck a grocer is able to read all those s-h-i-t? And even if he can, why the heck Somu & co just say bye to him without getting more clarifications on the naadi...totally insane.

Just 25 mins a week...too many knots...and most of the festivals fall on wednesdays...oh god it's going to take forever to get rid of this serial...

I totally agree with you bpbp! Not Worthy

Not Worthy

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From: balajiarun on Sat Jun 3 1:55:56 2006.

The scenes where Thandavan poisons Ponnambalam and runs upstairs is his narration to the AC... a flashback. He doesnt seem to have noticed the hand locking the door as he did not panic or ask the person why he/she locked the door? If he did not see it, How is it that we see it in his "flashback" ?
Very strange....

Clap

. It shouldn't be in his flashback at all

Rolling Eyes

From: mirunmanish on Mon Jun 5 9:31:49 2006. [Full View]

pls mr.NAGA can u tell us how many more episodes are left in CR??really waiting to see GOD with zero cases booked on him(taht's how the serial seems to be moving).
i can't stand the suspense for verrrrrry long

From: aanaa on Mon Jun 5 14:06:37 2006.

mirunmanish wrote:

pls mr.NAGA can u tell us how many more episodes are left in CR??really waiting to see GOD with zero cases booked on him(taht's how the serial seems to be moving).
i can't stand the suspense for verrrrrry long

He keeps sayimg did no murder

From: Poppoy on Mon Jun 5 15:06:54 2006.

The scenes where Thandavan poisons Ponnambalam and runs upstairs is his narration to the AC... a flashback. He doesnt seem to have noticed the hand locking the door as he did not panic or ask the person why he/she locked the door? If he did not see it, How is it that we see it in his "flashback" ?
Very strange....

I think the hand that locks the door is Savarimuthu's. If you noticed, when Thandavan rushes out to see his b-i-l on the oonjal, there's an ink pad beside him. Which means, Savarimuthu had just been there to take his fingerprint.
It appeared to me as if Thandavan did notice someone locking the door (he stands there for a second intrigued), and then rushes upstairs.

I disagree.. It cannot be savari muthu's as he is nowhere near the scean... Savari muthu is shown collecting the finder print at Dr.mohan's clinic...
It should be Doctor Mohan's.. Remember in his(Dr.) flash narration he does slip into the house through the back door.. Take Ponnambalam's thumb immpresion and gets out.. My guess is that he is the one locking the door. That's my two cents...

Thumbs Up!

From: Poppoy on Mon Jun 5 15:13:02 2006.

Poppoy wrote:

Hey.. On watching today's episode I remembered one of our fellow huber (don�t remember the name)who correctly predicted that all the 12 murders were committed by 12 different and the 12 would come forward confessing.. There ends the story...
looks like Naaga has picked up the que from there and the story is heading that way...
Here is my guess of the list of murder's(off course first two confirmed from today's episode).. naaga sir pls confirm heehehe.. Laughing

Laughing

( just on the lighter side)
Little some -> Mani/friend
Seetapati-> his daugther
Issaki -> Anbarasu(or assistant)
Nandhan -> His fed up wife
Father -> one of his unhappy disciple
Perumal reddy-> his wife(2nd or first?)
Ismail -> The office girl whom he tries to misbehave with
Manohar -> Anbarasu/one of his borrowers
Natesha sharma -> an accident
Poonambalam -> His disciple
Tamil vadiyar -> His student (the one somu & Padma meet)
Paalani -> Trunk driver association

How about that�
Wink

Wink

Rolling Eyes

Remember few weeks back when I provided the update for an episode(Where the confession's started).. I did post my guess on possible killer's... Looks like this far my theory is working

Wink

Paalani -> Truck owner though for a different reason all together
Ponnambalam His disciple Cum B-I-L
...eager to see how the rest unfolds

Clap

From: laddu on Tue Jun 6 10:18:43 2006. [Full View]

I thought the door was locked by a woman. It didn't look like a man's hand...if memory serves me right..I think I saw bangles.
From: ts on Thu Jun 8 4:25:15 2006. [Full View]

AC arrives at the farm and KG and mukilan are surprised to see him. KG asks him as to why he is here. AC tells him that it was his duty to go after KG.. though he has not come there officially. He asks KG if he can see the 11 olais. KG asks him why he needs to see them. AC tells him that he wants to see them to make sure that KG has them. KG tells him that he is happy if AC thinks the olais are not with KG. AC walks back to his car and gets the olai he got from chidambaram and tells KG that he ahs the 12th one. Mukilan rushes to the AC, takes it from him and starts to browse. KG is upset but AC asks him to return the 11 nadis to the govt who will take over from there. KG refuses. AC leaves with the nadi. KG is furious and asks mukilan how this could have happened. Mukilan says that the olai is still in as the one the AC has is the duplicate made by Anbarasu as he can read it. He says it is not in vattezhuthu. KG prepares to leave for Chidambaram. Vishnu asks him if he can manage by himself. AC tells him that he will be back with the medicine. He tells thulasi that butshe says that she doesnt need medicine derived from blood. KG calls Prabhu and asks him about something. Prabhu tells him that it is in the bank at pondicherry. KG asks him to meet him at the bank and leaves.

Prabhu sees KG's car and comes to him. he hands over a small box to KG. Inside it is a USB pen drive. He tells KG that the drive has all 2000 odd images, scans of the nadis. KG tells him that he will return from Chidambaram with the 12th nadi which had to be scanned as well. He asks Prabhu to be careful and says "thanks for everything". Prabhu tells him that he is "kadavul" and do not have to thank him but KG winds up the window and races even before Prabhu could finish.

AC has the rowdy at his office (the one who poisoned natesa sharma - dont remember his name). Balu from neithal arrives there and asks the AC why he was summoned. AC asks him if he knew the rowdy. Balu says no but the rowdy tells the AC that it was Balu who promied to pay him money to get Natesa Sharma killed. Balu tells AC that he actually saw the rowdy poison Sharma. Ac gets Sharmas's postmortem report and tells balu that there was no trace of poison in sharma's blood. Balu is takenaback. He asks the AC to get others out of the room so that he can confess.

When the others go out, he breaks down and starts to confess. He says that he was a very shy person, specially with women and hence he is not married and doesnt even have a girl friend. He says he met Sharma once and Sharma had asked him to visit him. Balu says he went to Sharma once only to find that Sharma was actually gay and they locked themselves into a room. He says he was ashamed of whatever happened that day and it was taunting him for several days. He says that sharma was pestering him ever since to visit him and Balu tried to avoid him. He says that he couldnt take it anymore and had approached the rowdy to get rid of Sharma. The day when the rowdy went to kill sharma, he was out of station and balu says that he was too afraid that he asked the rowdy not to proceed. He says that sharma kept pestering him and he got so fed up that he bought a knife and went to sharma to kill him. While he was at sharma's house, he says the rowdy had come and injected something into sharma's neck. Balu says that when the rowdy left, he had gone to the balcony where sharma was and accidentally tripped him to death. Balu says that he was under the impression that it was the poison that killed Sharma but is happy to know that it was him who killed sharma and asks the ac to arrest him...thodarum...
From: sreeramtcs on Thu Jun 8 4:47:25 2006. [Full View]

Thanks ts for update. It was a good one.
From: crazy on Thu Jun 8 5:44:58 2006. [Full View]

TS nandri
From: aanaa on Thu Jun 8 8:19:05 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

m...thodarum...

thank u for the quick update

I did watch yesterday
however its reading pleasure
From: aanaa on Thu Jun 8 8:20:39 2006. [Full View]

Naga -
father- daughter ?
man - man ?
touching sensitive issues
From: rshan on Fri Jun 9 10:46:00 2006. [Full View]

There seems to be an element of illegal sexual relationship in each murder.

Palani -> Rumor of an affair
Little Somu -> Extramarital affair
Seetapati-> Incest
Natesha sharma -> Transsexual/homosexual

Was there anything in Ponnambalam's case? I know his wife was being supported by her brother after his death.

My guess for some of the other murders:
Perumal reddy -> Polygamy
Father -> Molesting of boys (in line with the recent scandals)

The other ones, if we play the old episodes, we may get similar clues.
From: aanaa on Fri Jun 9 18:42:02 2006. [Full View]

rshan wrote:

There seems to be an element of illegal sexual relationship in each murder. ....
, we may get similar clues.

eventually each murder by different individuals
From: bpbp on Fri Jun 9 23:11:29 2006. [Full View]

aanaa wrote:

Naga -
father- daughter ?
man - man ?
touching sensitive issues

Each one killed by different people. Pretty disappointing.

Mixing up the story with these sensitive issues might make it little thrilling or interesting...This made everyone to stop thinking about the weird coincidence. Good work!

Questions:

1) I believe somu is supposed to solve everything in some predefined no of days (10 days?). Do you guys think it's only 10 days passed till now?

2) Why all people decide to kill the one annoying them? Why don't they do something else? Why cant this guy just get away from that gay?

3) Why somu goes to all murder spots? (dont say it's coincidence)

4) how come KG & co goes to pick up the suvadis at the same time (Coincidence?)
From: Poppoy on Tue Jun 13 12:11:40 2006. [Full View]

[quote="bpbp"]
aanaa wrote:

Questions:

1) I believe somu is supposed to solve everything in some predefined no of days (10 days?). Do you guys think it's only 10 days passed till now?

I guess this is one of the slip through the crack ... naga: Somu is really taking all time in eternity to solve this. the ten days story is well past... or is it ten months now

aanaa wrote:

3) Why somu goes to all murder spots? (dont say it's coincidence)

4) how come KG & co goes to pick up the suvadis at the same time (Coincidence?)

would be intresting to see how naga would answer that.. again coincidence?

Naga.. are you still active around.. not able to see any post from you offlate... And this week was surprised to see a femal name associated wit your name in the title scrool for the story contribution...Howzzat!
From: aanaa on Tue Jun 13 21:41:26 2006. [Full View]

Poppoy wrote:

Naga.. are you still active around..

Naga ? R u following our concerns
From: Naaga on Thu Jun 15 7:52:34 2006. [Full View]

Yes......im around and still following the thread actively......(just that i miss some of the hubbers like detective & bingleguy......who are not very active now-a-days.)

bpbp wrote:

1) I believe somu is supposed to solve everything in some predefined no of days (10 days?). Do you guys think it's only 10 days passed till now?

Can u explain this bpbp.......how did this become 10 days?.........n, does the song read out by Mani, which had this time frame mentioned, talk about Somu solving it or something else?.........(I hope it doesnt become 5 days in someone elses post........)

poppoy wrote:

And this week was surprised to see a femal name associated wit your name in the title scrool for the story contribution...Howzzat!

Will u kindly go back and check this out, poppoy!
From: bingleguy on Thu Jun 15 8:07:09 2006. [Full View]

Naaga wrote:

Yes......im around and still following the thread actively......(just that i miss some of the hubbers like detective & bingleguy......who are not very active now-a-days.)

Naga sir !Mannikka vendugiren......
From: bingleguy on Thu Jun 15 8:12:28 2006. [Full View]

TS.... eagerly waiting for ur updates !
From: ts on Thu Jun 15 8:33:18 2006. [Full View]

Short (not very comprehensive) update here. Sorry busy busy all today ....

Ac goes to Nandan's house for enquiry and a lady there stops him and asks him to go back saying that htey have already had enough of the "torture" and that Nandan's wife had gone out. AC spots her inside the house an dgoes inside. She says the same and virtually chases him away. The other lady is esther, the priest's sister. she says that after the death of the priest, it was nandan's wife who takes care of her as her own sister. AC walks outside, stops and asks nandan's wife about the quarrel she had with the priest. She denies it vehimently and runs inside, trying to escape thru the back door. AC and his deputy stop her and she breaks down. She says that she had been to the priest only to quarrel about him involving nandan in matters that she doesnt like. She says that the priest was having his insulin shot at that time and she goe so angry at him that she poked him on the neck with a needle that she found there. She says that the priest started to scream and collapsed. she wanted to help but saw somebody walking inside (the guy who took the thumb impression) and ran away only to find out that the "blank" injection had sent a bubble of air into his blood stream, eventually causing a heart attack. Esther hears this and is stunned.

KG arrives at Akash's house and granny welcomes him for the sake of courtesy and asks him to go away. He asks her about the nadi to which she replies that it had been given to someone already. Akash tells him that the nadi is with Somu and takes him to PD's house. Granny doesnt like Aksah doing this but he doesnt listen to her. They go to PD's house. PD is getting ready to go to the hospital. Somu sees KG and is irked. Akash introduces KG to PDand tells him that he wants to meet Thilai. Thillai is not interested to see him but KG asks him about the olai. Thillai asks him why he did what he did to Arthi. KG says that he didnt do it. Somu intervenes and calls KG a liar. KG pleads to them for the olai and says that the medicine will be complete with it. Somu says that there was no mention of any medicine in the maruthuva kandam. KG says that even slight misreading/interpreatation of the olai will lead one to somewhere else. He quotes the stomach line and says that this line preceeds the one that mentions about the cure. Somu says that he doesnt believe in KG. KG says that he has the process for preparing the medicine at chennai and will give it to them. Somu asks him to bring it first. KG thinks for a while and shows them the USB Pen. Akash gets his laptop from the car and he shows them the nadis and the process of preparing the medicine. He promises to thillai that he will get the nadi back to him once the medicine is ready.Thillai accepts and asks Somu to get the nadi. Somu denies it but says that he will give a copy of the text written by him instead. He asks KG for the usb drive to get a copy. Akash takes it from KG and says he will go with Somu as he doesnt believe in somu... thodarum...

There were problems with audio today... The priest didnt have a microphone near him and music was a bit loud when events at PD's house...
From: mirunmanish on Thu Jun 15 9:39:40 2006. [Full View]

a continuation to the post of TS:
as soon as Somu & Akash go out, KG falls on the feet of Thillai begging pardon(i don't remember if there was any dialogue for y he is asking pardon).

From: goldkiddo on Thu Jun 15 10:56:20 2006.

Naaga wrote:

poppoy wrote:

And this week was surprised to see a femal name associated wit your name in the title scrool for the story contribution...Howzzat!

Will u kindly go back and check this out, poppoy!

If I noticed right, the co-credits were only for dialogues, and the name I think was Ayyappan

From: AJ on Thu Jun 15 11:50:19 2006. [Full View]

mirunmanish wrote:

a continuation to the post of TS:

Another small detail.. Somu brings the notebook from his room after putting the nadi inside his briefcase, while Akash is outside observing all this...he then comes out of the room and locks the door. Thillai asks him why he does so. Somu replies that he doesn't trust anybody.
After Somu and Akash leave, KG breaks down at Thillai's feet asking for forgiveness. He says that people he helped did this terrible thing to Arthi out of gratitude for him and that he will be at peace only if Thillai forgives him. Thillai wants KG to assure him that the medicine will definitely be found and there ends the episode.

On the side, welcome back Mr. Naga. It's nice to have you among us.
From: ssanjinika on Thu Jun 15 17:34:34 2006. [Full View]

poppy,
I think its supposed to be 12 days..and I suppose the oolai said that in 12 days since somu starts to run,the murders will be solved.
HAvent we already had this discussion before regarding the no of days ?

From: bpbp on Thu Jun 15 20:45:45 2006.

ssanjinika wrote:

poppy,
I think its supposed to be 12 days..and I suppose the oolai said that in 12 days since somu starts to run,the murders will be solved.
HAvent we already had this discussion before regarding the no of days ?

Naga:

My mistake. I could not remember exact number of days but thought somewhere around 10. Sanjinika has confirmed that it's 12 days but still 2 more days doesn't make it very long though. But I agree I got this number by following the forum...

But anyways, this week is kinda interesting. I am expecting next week or week after the next to reveal the chidambara ragisiyam.

From: aanaa on Thu Jun 15 21:49:55 2006. [Full View]

Naaga wrote:

Will u kindly go back and check this out, poppoy!

"" ullen aiya "" - thank u
From: aanaa on Thu Jun 15 21:51:22 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

house...

looks like - Ahash involved in murder ????

From: bingleguy on Thu Jun 15 23:12:46 2006.

laddu wrote:

I thought the door was locked by a woman. It didn't look like a man's hand...if memory serves me right..I think I saw bangles.

The scenes where Thandavan poisons Ponnambalam and runs upstairs is his narration to the AC... a flashback. He doesnt seem to have noticed the hand locking the door as he did not panic or ask the person why he/she locked the door? If he did not see it, How is it that we see it in his "flashback" ?
Very strange....

bingleguy wrote:

sreeramtcs wrote:

In last episode while Thandavan climbs upsteps after giving poison to Ponnambalam, there was a hand which locked the door from outside. Any idea whos had it will be?

Excellent observation Clap

Clap

i too saw that !
Guess that was the hand of a LADY !

Naga sir ....
Does this got anything to do with the story ! If this has to do with some suspense, then ok ... ow just inquisitive to know whether the narration is a part of the flashback ????

This week .................

Rolling Eyes

this week leads us to a lot of guessing ! again a twist in the murder tale .....

TS

Clap

thanks for the updates .............

From: ts on Fri Jun 16 4:33:02 2006. [Full View]

Naaga wrote:

Yes......im around and still following the thread actively......(just that i miss some of the hubbers like detective & bingleguy......who are not very active now-a-days.)

WB Naga

Reg detective: I think he fell out with the plot (i am assuming "he" here....might as well be a "she" )
He didnt like the "12 differet killers" theory... and we havent seen him after it started to go that way

I might be totally wrong ...

(funny thing that the last statement of mine goes well not only with the serial but also with those discussing about it here....)
From: crazy on Fri Jun 16 6:24:28 2006. [Full View]

ts thanks for the update

From: Poppoy on Fri Jun 16 15:34:22 2006.

Naaga wrote:

poppoy wrote:

And this week was surprised to see a femal name associated wit your name in the title scrool for the story contribution...Howzzat!

Will u kindly go back and check this out, poppoy!

Naga sir.. My mistake in observation... This week around I was in fact arnd to look for the name again to reconfirm... Its only your name associated with story.. But If my observation is right its in the Production area that one Chitra naga's name come's up. Any how this is your in house 'Naga productions' along side Pyramid.
(I don't get that good a quality of transmition out here..)
I apologize for the confusion here...

Hey!!! we did wake you up and made you reply to our post...

Thumbs Up!

Great to have you back

Clap

Not Worthy

So.. am able to see the end of the tunnel for "chidambara ragasiyam".. When can we expect the next naga saga?
One thing am able to observe in all your serials is the extent of research you have carried out in tamil literature.. Kudos to you for the same.. BTW have you got a P.hd on the same? Am not surprised if you already have�
Once again..
mannika veendu geereen.. ungal koobathaai toondiviteen.. ungalai sandikaa virumbu geeereen�

Wave

From: detective on Fri Jun 16 19:30:22 2006.

Reg detective: I think he fell out with the plot Rolling Eyes

Rolling Eyes

(i am assuming "he" here....might as well be a "she" )
He didnt like the "12 differet killers" theory... and we havent seen him after it started to go that way Confused

Confused

I might be totally wrong ...

No, TS, you are right. I am not impressed with the plot as it proceeds now. I am watching the serial, but not as eagerly. Just for the sake of it. I have not been following the forum that eagerly as well.

We were made to believe that the killings were done for the fingerprint. Now, as suspected, they are done for various reasons. And the killing, taking of finger print and Somu's arrival seem take place at the same. Not 2, but 3 unusual events taking place at the same time is too much for me to take.

On top of that, police never discussed how the killings happened. We were made to believe that all killings were due to some poison involving needles. Now the story is totally different.

Naga might say many things to defend himself. But to me, this is just a very ordinary serial that grossly mislead the viewers. I don't want to be abrasive any more.

I will post again when I fell like......

From: bpbp on Fri Jun 16 22:10:24 2006. [Full View]

detective wrote:

I will post again when I fell like......

I agree with you, Detective. even I lost my interest along the way. we are here dealing with an almost infinite probability (possibility)
From: AJ on Fri Jun 16 22:52:51 2006. [Full View]

detective wrote:

We were made to believe that the killings were done for the fingerprint. Now, as suspected, they are done for various reasons.......

The confessions are being shown ad nauseam. The entire murder/confession plot could have been handled differently, like the police having done their due diligence and revealing all the murderers at the end of the serial in a concise fashion. That would have kept us guessing for a good part of the serial as to who would have committed all the murders.
In my case at least, I'm not interested in going through each murder in detail and listening to the sob stories. Plus, the criminals literally fall in the lap of the police one after the other. No attempt has been made whatsoever to show some variation in the various aspects of the investigation. Of late when the AC comes on screen, I'm like .."oh no! here we go again."
Even if all of the murders do turn out to be part of a "bigger scheme" of a single person, I don't think I would be all excited.
I apologize for the negative remarks, but I agree with detective.
From: pavalamani pragasam on Sat Jun 17 0:38:45 2006. [Full View]

It has to be admitted the tempo is slackening!
From: ts on Mon Jun 19 4:05:40 2006. [Full View]

Guys.. Come on.. give Naaga a break !

Save your comments for the end as you never know what the director has got in his bag... specially Naaga.
From: bingleguy on Mon Jun 19 4:39:41 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Guys.. Come on.. give Naaga a break !

Save your comments for the end as you never know what the director has got in his bag... specially Naaga.

True ! We never can gauge ... !
From: Poppoy on Tue Jun 20 12:58:03 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Guys.. Come on.. give Naaga a break !

Save your comments for the end as you never know what the director has got in his bag... specially Naaga.

Perfectly agree with you... Naaga is Naaga..
BTW.. let me open another pandora box.. did you notice how naga brought in the sex thaboo to all other killings and neatly avoided the same with the Father's case... Is this to avoid more conterversies? must he thought the Da Vincie one is more than enough for now.. But why not!!! When u can put father/daughter, XX/XX why not the same trend out here.. is it just that other's are dumb and wouldn't ask you questions...
From: aanaa on Wed Jun 21 7:52:21 2006. [Full View]

let's c whats happening today

From: Thiruvidai on Wed Jun 21 9:48:25 2006.

The confessions are being shown ad nauseam. The entire murder/confession plot could have been handled differently, like the police having done their due diligence and revealing all the murderers at the end of the serial in a concise fashion. That would have kept us guessing for a good part of the serial as to who would have committed all the murders.

Agreed. The confession plots do not seem to help the flow of the story, unless the Director is planning to create a twist in the end (one option is to show all those confessions are delibrate and to mislead police/ get the editor out on bail).

Regarding today's episode (I am in Singapore and so will be a week behind most of you)

The confession of the woman talking about getting angry and slamming an injection on a priest seemed a bit unbeleivable to me.
There are three concerns I have.

a. About the incident
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when she is talking over an issue and other person (espeically a priest) is saying "I'm feeling giddy. come back later", why would the woman take a syringe and attack . An act of unprovoked violence, that too in a place of workship. from a woman?

Even if the woman was in a rage, will she focus on just hitting with the needle (or) wait to draw the syringe and push airbubble inside?

b. About the method
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I'm not sure if an air bubble can cause a hear attack. I did some surfing and below is what I find.

Quote
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Air can be injected directly into the veins either accidentally or as a deliberate act. Examples include misuse of a syringe, and industrial injury resulting from use of compressed air. However, this will NOT suddenly stop the heart nor cause instant death, unlike in fiction stories where this is used as a method of murder. Murder by air injection is an urban legend

Unquote
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Also, the amount of air required may be more than a 20 c.c syringe normally used. ?...

C. Confession
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The sister of Priest does not seem to know about the Priest's post mortem results. Whereas the other woman is able to talk about air bubble etc.. How does she know the post mortem report of the priest?...

Currently, the AC character does not seem to be performing great investigation.. Let us wait to see if there is a twist in the story. May be, the AC will come up with a break through...

From: pavalamani pragasam on Wed Jun 21 11:43:16 2006. [Full View]

Today's episode, the 100th,was quite interesting with the artistes doing Kumaraguru & Somu competing with each other to excel in acting skill. Excellent performance!
From: VENKIRAJA on Wed Jun 21 11:55:23 2006. [Full View]

today's was one of the 10 best episodes of naga's whole serials

whom do you all suspect to be the culprit(surely not kumaraguru)
From: JOTHI1010 on Wed Jun 21 22:44:57 2006. [Full View]

Hi,

Eagerly waiting for the updates...would appreciate if someone could give the updates..

Tq
From: bingleguy on Wed Jun 21 23:08:38 2006. [Full View]

Nooraavadhu Kaagidha madippil
Irubadhaavadhu pakkam kaanavillai

I was managing to reach home fast, but still could make it only for the last segment !

Naga is building up tension n expectation in every episode of his ! Also the screenplay s really beautifully penned this time ... the healthy argument between Guru n Somu showed Mohanraam sir's experience in offering dialogues in a flow

I remember seeing a figure behind the person to whom Guru called up in chennai (dont rem the char name) ! was somebody trying to overhear the conversation

TS waiting for the complete update

Naga sir ! u deserve much more than just claps
From: ts on Thu Jun 22 5:36:47 2006. [Full View]

Thillai and KG are sitting in PD's house and KG says that he is relieved now that the medicine will be complete. He sees PD sitting in the bench and asks him where he was heading. PD tells him about Kamakshi and her aliment. KG asks him not to wait for him and to go to the hospital and attend to his sister. When PD leaves, KG tells thillai that after collecting the nadis, he got them deciphered by asking Anbarasu to read the vattezhuthu. He says that he wanted a second opinion and Mukilan, a sidda vaidhiya, had confirmed that whatever was decoded was correctly done. He says that he doesnt know if PD's interpretation would lead him to the medicine at all, as the text can be interpreted in many ways.

Somu is busy taking copies of his nadi and Akash is in the next room, reading from the pen drive and taking copy of the document that details the process of preparing the medicine. They exchange the documents and head straight to the house. Meanwhile, thillai acknowledges KG's concern and looks out for the spare key to the room where Somu has locked up the nadi. He could'nt find it and tries to break open the lock. Somu arrives just in time and says that he knew this would happen. He says that KG is good at corrupting people's minds and tells them that he would never give them the nadi and now that the documents have been exchanged, they may leave. Thillai tries to pacify Somu but he wouldnt listen. Akash and KG take leave.

Somu tells thillai that the medicine will be ready and they can cure Arthi. Thillai reads from the text and is confused about a word whatever is written there. Meanwhile, the grocer brings in groceries and leaves them in the bench. He asks somu for some water. The grocer tells thillai that the words are cryptic and only people who knew the art could decode them and he demonstrated by decoding a few words such as "mAldEvi" etc. He adds that some of them mentioned are simple chemicals such as mercury chloride, which can be prepared with a small quantity of mercury and bleaching powder. He asks thillai if he wants the "sarakku" to be delivered. Somu comes in with some water and the man has it. He tells them that he has to get a few items more and will bring them the next day when he will take his money. Thillai gives him the list and asks him if he can decode the ingredients from that and prepare the medicine if possible. The man goes thru the list and tells him that it will take 7 days to prepare it. Somu takes the sheet from him and sends him away. He tells Thillai that he thought the process would be easy. Thillai tells him that atleast the medicine will be ready in a week if they go ahead with the man now. Somu replies that he will get half of whatever KG has prepared. Thillai asks him how. He says that KG will come back to him sooner than thillai might think.

KG and Akash arrive outside Akash's house. Akash asks him if he can have a copy of Somu's nadi. He says that he needs it for a research that he is doing. He tells KG that he doesnt need the maruthuvakandam until the medicine is ready. KG agrees to it and tries to take out the maruthuvakanda paper from the sheets. The page where it is written points them back to page 20. He asks Akash to look for page 20 but it is not there. They rush back to PD's house and asks Thillai to read it from the book. Thillai confirms to them that there is no page 20 there. Somu tells them that there will never be a page 20. He says that the page was skipped as it had a few dots and dashes... nothing meaningful. Akash asks him if he can take a look. Somu denies but KG is adamant. He asks KG for another deal. He asks him for half share of the medicine in exchange for page 20 from the olai. KG agrees to it. Somu opens the door and shows them the page. He closes it even before Akash could take a look and asks KG to arrange for the medicine to come to Chidambaram. KG calls Mukilan and asks him to come over to Chidambaram immediately with the medicine, while Vishnu is watching his every move. Somu locks up the door and asks them to wait. KG screams that it will be 4 hours before mukilan arrives and somu asks him to wait till then. KG walks out in rage and Akash accompanies him. PD comes home and sits in the bench and starts to sob. Thillai comforts him and asks him to speak. He says that the doctors have given up on Kamakshi and have said that they will call somu's number, should they want PD to take her back home. Somu's mobile rings and it is from the hospital...thodarum...

I think the 20th page will have the word "Thillai" in binary... remember this is what Akash had decoded originally... interesting....
From: crazy on Thu Jun 22 5:40:29 2006. [Full View]

nandri ts
From: bingleguy on Thu Jun 22 6:01:06 2006. [Full View]

The Decoded word being THILLAI sounds logical !

btw i guess Vishnu is the person whom i had been mentioning as standing when Mukilan was on the phone !

Great suspense .... wats on the 20 ! Nail biting !

TS for the updates, i had missed the most important part of the yest's episode ... which i gained it thru u, thanks a ton TS !

Naga sir ...... i really feel u ll give a conclusion soon for CR !
From: aanaa on Thu Jun 22 11:54:40 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

... interesting....

thanks 4 the update

From: AJ on Thu Jun 22 13:56:17 2006.

Somu tells them that there will never be a page 20. He says that the page was skipped as it had a few dots and dashes... nothing meaningful. I think the 20th page will have the word "Thillai" in binary... remember this is what Akash had decoded originally... interesting....

I recall Somu telling that the page contained 'ones' and 'zeros', not dots and dashes....which as you said might be binary code which is why Akash is very interested at looking at it. Doesn't Somu recognize binary code? Why didn't he try to decipher it himself?

The grocer drinks all the water in the 'sombu' each time at which Somu and Thillai are surprised. Does this have any significance?
If the grocer can understand the nadi why can't Somu and Thillai use him to explain the contents of the maruthuva kaandam? Is Somu getting stupid again by shooing him off each time?

From: karthik_rcs on Thu Jun 22 21:26:42 2006. [Full View]

The episode was interesting one.

I remember akash in the beginning episodes, tries to decode the binary digits in nadi to THILLAI

I think the medicine is described in this page 20 should be thillai and at the same time, the tree was there in temple.I think they will find the thing and cure with that.....

Do anyone remember wht the siddhar said in writing

"ENNODU SERTHU INI MOOVAR, KADASIYIL AGASTHIYAN"
and i think we have to wait for one more person in this story "GREAT SIDDHAR AGASTHIYAR"
and in somu nadi it was mentioned,hewould meet him in this JENMAN...
Lets watch, i am also eagerly waiting the G8 personality....
"Who Knows, For audience surprise, NAGA SIR can COME IN DISGUISE" to reveal the ragasiyam
From: laddu on Thu Jun 22 23:58:46 2006. [Full View]

I'm in India now. I felt odd when only I was interested in watching the CR...everyone looked at me funny. Too much interruptions and finally I didn't get to know what happened in the serial. Thanks for the update from TS.
With all the curiosity I've planned to go to Chidambaram too... anyway its in my itinerary...lets see....
From: bingleguy on Fri Jun 23 0:08:26 2006. [Full View]

[quote="AJ"
I recall Somu telling that the page contained 'ones' and 'zeros', not dots and dashes....which as you said might be binary code which is why Akash is very interested at looking at it. Doesn't Somu recognize binary code? Why didn't he try to decipher it himself?
[/quote]

He may have deciphered it ... but still didnt wanna share with anybody,though !

Actually i guess he said as dots n dashes only ! anyways !

From: Poppoy on Fri Jun 23 16:25:14 2006.

Somu tells them that there will never be a page 20. He says that the page was skipped as it had a few dots and dashes... nothing meaningful. I think the 20th page will have the word "Thillai" in binary... remember this is what Akash had decoded originally... interesting....

I recall Somu telling that the page contained 'ones' and 'zeros', not dots and dashes....which as you said might be binary code which is why Akash is very interested at looking at it. Doesn't Somu recognize binary code? Why didn't he try to decipher it himself?

The grocer drinks all the water in the 'sombu' each time at which Somu and Thillai are surprised. Does this have any significance?
If the grocer can understand the nadi why can't Somu and Thillai use him to explain the contents of the maruthuva kaandam? Is Somu getting stupid again by shooing him off each time?

Somu is a journalist.. not a expert in computer science... where as Akash is an expert Computer science guy...This must be the potrait that Naga is trying to cast. I guess Akash would also get to be an instrument in soving the puzzle and nothing more to his character.

Huh?!

he might just be intrestd to use Somu's story in his research/novel

Let wait and watch what Naga has in his bag for us.

Thumbs Up!

From: nacdaman on Wed Jun 28 14:49:16 2006. [Full View]

i heard from my folks home that the episode got telecasted in the morning time itself . Sun tv is telecasting all the programs live.....what a bummer
From: aanaa on Wed Jun 28 17:40:13 2006. [Full View]

I lost suntv
expecting ur update today here
From: aanaa on Wed Jun 28 17:40:33 2006. [Full View]

telecasting on morning??
From: Poppoy on Wed Jun 28 20:03:46 2006. [Full View]

Foul..Foul...
How can they change the schedule with now notice TS: did u get to watch this weeks episode?

Hey all! Why don't we request Naga sir to provide this weeks update

Naga sir... Please give us this weeks update.. It would be great to see your post on this.. Thanks in advance Would be great
From: aanaa on Wed Jun 28 21:03:08 2006. [Full View]

Hi Naga
Its your turn now
go ahead!!!!
From: bingleguy on Wed Jun 28 23:18:32 2006. [Full View]

Naga ! he has kept us in an endless loop of guessing He is known for giving a hook everytime !

Episode 101 was very fast..... !

Infact, i made a mistake n guessing a fault but Naga handled that very well !

When the lady is brought in the stretcher by the hospital boys, they started coming into the house as if they knew that place, without anybody guiding i guessed this was not taken care of ! But suddenly Somu guides them that tis not there but the other side into the room ..... WOW, actually Naga sir has handled this situation brilliantly showing that they are just entering the house as such ... still proving that they dont have an idea of the house ... and Somu guides them ....... Naga sir !

Hmn....... so finally we had a view over the medicine on Somu's hands .... and also the binary numbers .... a serious of 8 bits i guess 3X4 matrix ............ Next episode will be interesting ......... more interesting !

Akash also reveals about his research ... hmn interesting.... every 15th letter or word forming a meaning ..... wats this exactly

TS waiting for ur updates

Naga sir ...
From: bpbp on Thu Jun 29 1:31:52 2006. [Full View]

I guess they hooked up all USA viewers into wrong satellite. So we ended up seeing the same program seen by people in India at the same time. In fact, that was pretty live as the news and all are not outdated. Anyways they switched it back to normal timings now. I guess lots of people have missed today's episode, I will try to provide what I saw today. I was getting ready for my office so couldn't see the episode with full concentration, anyway here you go:

EPISODE 101:

KG and Akash reach the guest house. Akash asks for the photocopy of the suvadis. KG asks why he needs it. Akash says he wants it for his research. With little hesitation, KG goes along with Akash to take photocopies (I guess he gives only the paper which has the essence but not the whole nadis). Akash goes to grandma's house and grandma, on seeing the papers snatches the papers and puts them on fire and asks Akash not to come home with those papers. Akash gets angry; he packs his stuff and goes out. Grandma tries to stop him but he did not stop. When he comes out, the madguy (little somu�s father) asks Akash to take his book which contains �Ragasiyams� about the temple (this one was written by the madguy). Without listening him, Akash goes to the guest house. KG offers a place in the guest house to stay.

3 guys are talking near a rock breaking place. Our police approaches that place and inquires them about Nandhan�s murder. As expected, one of the guys starts running but in vain. Two of those guys start giving the truth about how Nandhan got killed. They say they decided to give Nandan diarrhea tablets to stop him doing a stage drama in front of collector and people about the potential problems about drilling the mountain place. The tablets without their knowledge got mixed up with the gun powders (which used to in the bombs to break the rocks) and that eventually killed him. Police arrests them.

KG & co gets the partial medicine from the gardener. KG asks for the page 11 of Somu�s nadi. Somu goes inside the room and brings a paper which has the 1s and 0s code on it.

Meanwhile the lady who is suffering from cancer is carried into the house from ambulance. Thodarum�

Sorry guys, it may not be complete�please someone, fill in the gaps I might have left�.

From: ts on Thu Jun 29 4:36:56 2006.

Thillai and Somu insist that they leave PD's house and move intoa lodge. PD wants them to stay and says that even though the doctors have given up on Kamakshi, he trusts that she will get her medication from Thillai.

Akash takes the xerox copies of somu's nadi with him and granny asks him what it is. She take it from him and burns it in the backyard. Akash tells her that it is just a copy that she burnt and that he can get more of them. Granny says that she will burn each one of them. Akash gets irked and leaves the house with his bags. Granny is stunned and sits in the thinnai sobbing. Panchu tells her that he has never seen her sit in the thinnai and starts asking her if she knew about a few rahasiyams in the temple.

Akash goes to the guest house and tells KG about his quarrel with his granny. KG asks him to stay at the guest house, though he is very skeptical of his intentions.

bingleguy wrote:

When the lady is brought in the stretcher by the hospital boys, they started coming into the house as if they knew that place, without anybody guiding i guessed this was not taken care of ! But suddenly Somu guides them that tis not there but the other side into the room ..... WOW, actually Naga sir has handled this situation brilliantly showing that they are just entering the house as such ... still proving that they dont have an idea of the house ... and Somu guides them

There is a saying.... "Great men think alike...." and a counter to it "Fools seldom differ...."
I dont know which one applies to us in this case Smile

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. I was thinking exact same thing when they were bringing Kamakshi inside and slapped myself in the wrist when i realised what i thought was wrong Smile

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... so binglebuy, which saying fits us you think ?

From: goldkiddo on Thu Jun 29 4:45:51 2006. [Full View]

some more stuff:

KG asks Akash why he needs copies of all other nadis besides somu's. Akash replies that he is researching documents where every 10th or 100th letter gives a word/phrase which can be some kind of prophecy. He also says this was done using the old testament, to find out about the future.

[Strange ... many episodes ago Akash mentions he is interested in nadis only because he is trying to find a correlation between people's destiny and their fingerprint ]

When Abirami tells akash that her aunt may pass away anytime and to go and see her in the room, Akash is disinterested and eagerly waits instead for Somu to give him the binary code.

I have a feeling Akash wants something from KG, so he set up the whole thing - telling patti he has a copy of the nadi, then getting angry with her for burning it and instead of looking for a hotel, going to the guest house where KG is staying.

...And just out of curiosity, I checked out 'old testament' on wikipedia and found something called the bible code.
From: AJ on Thu Jun 29 17:02:35 2006. [Full View]

Thanks all for the updates of last night's episode.
It's a bummmer when the transmission gets messed up, especially at a time when the serial is picking up pace again.
Your updates are sincerely appreciated.
From: aanaa on Thu Jun 29 17:55:22 2006. [Full View]

bpbp wrote:

, fill in the gaps I might have left�.

thx indeed
From: Naaga on Thu Jun 29 21:18:19 2006. [Full View]

Poppoy wrote:

Naga sir... Please give us this weeks update.. It would be great to see your post on this.. Thanks in advance Would be great

Sorry Poppoy, for not heeding to your request. I prefer not to provide the week's update for certain selfish reasons. Thanx to you all ....... I am using this thread as a feedback column. I use your updates to check whether all those I have intended to communicate have reached the viewers or not. So, ....

And, I feel that episode 101 is a classic example where four people providing the update, underlining different aspects of it.

Regarding this 'Akash and his code stuff'.........it is called ELS (Equidistant Letter Sequences) and the research by the Jewish Rabbis had been on in the Torah (esp. in the books of the Old Testament) for sometime now.

It is to find (within the main text) certain letters that are equidistant, combining to form meaningful words or phrases. (Jews believe in it when they discover phrases that are related to modern day Israel or Palestine....and rejecting it when the Christians find certain phrases relating to Jesus.......)

High time the Hindus did something like this with all the ocean of scriptures available. (There are these softwares like Bible Decoder Plus, Bible Code Oracle etc. are available on the public domains to try out......but....all of them are for Hebrew or English. Hope some of our IT friends could adapt them for Sanskrit & Tamil)

The flip side is....we may find these prophetic phrases in a common newspaper or a pulp-fiction book too....if we search in them. Its statistical science.

From: bingleguy on Thu Jun 29 23:45:40 2006.

There is a saying.... "Great men think alike...." and a counter to it "Fools seldom differ...."
I dont know which one applies to us in this case Smile

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. I was thinking exact same thing when they were bringing Kamakshi inside and slapped myself in the wrist when i realised what i thought was wrong Smile

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... so binglebuy, which saying fits us you think ?

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TS ....... romba ikkattaana nilamaila maati vittuteengale

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Well to say any observer will truly get carried away by the same

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and intelligent directors will carry them away but negating their statement ! Hence we were observers and Naga had us carried away

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Actually i dont know whether ppl write instances for every character in every scene .... like incase a new character is introduced, other than his/her dialogues, the behaviour of the person in that particular place ????

is this done Naga sir ?

Like for instance ... will u tell the ward boy character artistes that they have to go in as such they do not know the place ??????? will they be told this ... or wil they be told just to go in !?

From: bingleguy on Fri Jun 30 0:01:39 2006.

Naaga wrote:

Sorry Poppoy, for not heeding to your request. I prefer not to provide the week's update for certain selfish reasons. Thanx to you all ....... I am using this thread as a feedback column. I use your updates to check whether all those I have intended to communicate have reached the viewers or not. So, Huh?!

Huh?!

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you are very clever and cagey .... Well truly to say ys, this feedback really makes u to look back instances of your building skill ! But after reading this wat did u feel? do u feel your intention stands satisfied ? has it reached the viewers ?

Naaga wrote:

And, I feel that episode 101 is a classic example where four people providing the update, underlining different aspects of it.

Regarding this 'Akash and his code stuff'.........it is called ELS (Equidistant Letter Sequences) and the research by the Jewish Rabbis had been on in the Torah (esp. in the books of the Old Testament) for sometime now.
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I didnt get it ! Which four ppl are u mentioning about, is it Somu, Akash, YGee and Mohanraam ????

Ysssss, ELS... was quite interesting to have brought that in here !

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Guess Rabbi Weissmandel was the first person to have discovered this phenomenon of selecting sequences of equally spaced letters in the text ! Kudos Naga sir

Clap

Hope some of our IT friends could adapt them for Sanskrit & Tamil)

I see you giving a tip

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The flip side is....we may find these prophetic phrases in a common newspaper or a pulp-fiction book too....if we search in them. Its statistical science.

Can u quote some examples of the same ?

From: ts on Fri Jun 30 5:11:33 2006. [Full View]

bingleguy wrote:

I didnt get it ! Which four ppl are u mentioning about, is it Somu, Akash, YGee and Mohanraam ????

I think he mentions bingleguy, bpbp, TS and goldkiddo

From: bingleguy on Fri Jun 30 5:16:09 2006.

bingleguy wrote:

I didnt get it ! Which four ppl are u mentioning about, is it Somu, Akash, YGee and Mohanraam ????

I think he mentions bingleguy, bpbp, TS and goldkiddo

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i didnt think in that angle, was too much into the storyline

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From: Naaga on Fri Jun 30 15:04:58 2006.

bingleguy wrote:

Actually i dont know whether ppl write instances for every character in every scene .... like incase a new character is introduced, other than his/her dialogues, the behaviour of the person in that particular place ????

is this done Naga sir ?

Like for instance ... will u tell the ward boy character artistes that they have to go in as such they do not know the place ??????? will they be told this ... or wil they be told just to go in !?

That is the main function of a director on the sets. [If the actor is experienced and doing a major role, then they will do it themselves.... or else, ask the director as to, 'what is the situation? have i been here before? do i know these people? etc.' For the 'Junior artistes' (aka extras) it is the responsibility of the director or his assistants to instruct them]

bingleguy wrote:

...do u feel your intention stands satisfied ? has it reached the viewers ?

Some have (Instances are when i wondered some time back, about the 'eye for details' of the members of this forum...) and some have not (Instances are when they have not...) [Bingleguy, i am not being cagey here........just reserving it for later... especially about some of my slips that have gone unnoticed.....

Twisted Evil

bingleguy wrote:

naaga wrote:

The flip side is....we may find these prophetic phrases in a common newspaper or a pulp-fiction book too....if we search in them. Its statistical science.

Can u quote some examples of the same ?

Well, you can import any of the text portion of any of the pages on the web into these code breaking softwares and search for words or phrases like 'bingleguy' and 'Srirangathu devadaigal'.......

Wink

, you might hit upon one or two occurrances. Larger the text portion, greater is your chance of a hit.

From: goldkiddo on Sat Jul 1 2:17:46 2006.

Naaga wrote:

bingleguy wrote:

...do u feel your intention stands satisfied ? has it reached the viewers ?

Some have (Instances are when i wondered some time back, about the 'eye for details' of the members of this forum...) and some have not (Instances are when they have not...) [Bingleguy, i am not being cagey here........just reserving it for later... especially about some of my slips that have gone unnoticed..... Twisted Evil

Twisted Evil

Now that we are totally in to this topic, here's something that struck me as odd in one of the earlier episodes.

When KG comes to akash's house to ask for somu's nadi, patti tells him not to come in - she doesnt want a murderer to step into her house. In fact KG has not even introduced himself yet. How does patti know he is the editor of neithal ?

Either I have a bad memory - patti must have met him on some earlier occasion,
or patti has read about him and seen his pics in the media
or the editor of neithal is a familiar face with his subscribers!

Can anyone throw some light on this?

From: pavalamani pragasam on Sat Jul 1 2:22:08 2006. [Full View]

aamaalla! romba engrossed aakurathula kavanikkala!

From: Poppoy on Sat Jul 1 10:19:38 2006.

goldkiddo wrote:

Naaga wrote:

bingleguy wrote:

...do u feel your intention stands satisfied ? has it reached the viewers ?

Some have (Instances are when i wondered some time back, about the 'eye for details' of the members of this forum...) and some have not (Instances are when they have not...) [Bingleguy, i am not being cagey here........just reserving it for later... especially about some of my slips that have gone unnoticed..... Twisted Evil

Twisted Evil

Now that we are totally in to this topic, here's something that struck me as odd in one of the earlier episodes.

When KG comes to akash's house to ask for somu's nadi, patti tells him not to come in - she doesnt want a murderer to step into her house. In fact KG has not even introduced himself yet. How does patti know he is the editor of neithal ?

Either I have a bad memory - patti must have met him on some earlier occasion,
or patti has read about him and seen his pics in the media
or the editor of neithal is a familiar face with his subscribers!

Can anyone throw some light on this?

Guess you have missed quite a few of those old episodes... KG has infact come to Paati's house when Sr. Somu was in chidambaram and Little somu got murdered. (mistaken for 12th person in the list) And Paati does know that he was arrestend in connection with the 12 murders.
Offcourse you analogy of the Editor being a popular figure has to be taken in for the little somu's father recognizing him when KG come to paati's house in that episode in context.

From: aanaa on Sat Jul 1 10:59:14 2006. [Full View]

Naaga wrote:

I prefer not to provide the week's update for certain selfish reasons. Thanx to you all .

understand

From: goldkiddo on Sat Jul 1 12:31:46 2006.

Poppoy wrote:

Guess you have missed quite a few of those old episodes... KG has infact come to Paati's house when Sr. Somu was in chidambaram and Little somu got murdered. (mistaken for 12th person in the list) And Paati does know that he was arrestend in connection with the 12 murders.
Offcourse you analogy of the Editor being a popular figure has to be taken in for the little somu's father recognizing him when KG come to paati's house in that episode in context.

Embarassed

Thanks poppoy! You are right. I missed parts of a few episodes last year. Plan to read up TS 's updates again!

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From: mitra on Tue Jul 4 5:32:08 2006. [Full View]

Hi friends,

Iam new to the forum. I have been following this thread for the past 4 days.

You guys r doing an excellent job.
From: pavalamani pragasam on Wed Jul 5 11:37:48 2006. [Full View]

Picking up speed! Rehena's BGM effective!
From: bingleguy on Wed Jul 5 23:44:09 2006. [Full View]

One hundred and two
makes us nervous too

The Episode 102 has been handled with a nice flow n sequence Naga sir, u deserve all credits

Would say the instances that i loved in this episode

First thing .... the happiness and the inquisitiveness and the joy of getting an answer to all his questions n getting his wages for the investment of life time -> the excitement was very much in the talks, actions and behaviour of Kumuaraguru(Mohanraam sir u did a very excellent job, portraying the character, Naga sir for taking this without a ripple). Ovvoru vishayathalayum, his quest for the medicine is very much visible, while decoding -> avaroda restlessness, after getting it ... his swift actions of getting the answer, calling up the Botany professor from the University (guess that was Anna Univ)... rushing to the place en route to Pichavaram, meeting Vincent ... till the time he sees the THILLAI STHALA VIRUKSHAM ! Awesome !

It was like sitting on a roller coaster with unexpected twists n turns !

Naga sir, neenga kaamicha maram nijamaave thillai sthala vrukshamaa ?

Also something to be noted :
KG's daughter has not put a hook saying that it needs one more content

innoru thing to be noted :
after theyve left from Vincent's garden, there is a close-up of the sap(milk) of the tree falling on the leaves ..... and KG has said many more ppl might come for this tree, allow them ... edhaavadhu connection ???????????????????????????????????????????

ONE Q Naga sir .... infact this applies to Mohanraam sir too !
When KG meets Vincent, when he handshakes with him for the first time, avar kai kodukkira style ai gavanichu paathen -> avar kai kodukkum podhu dominating aa koduppaaru..... adhaavadhu, he will not give a usual handshake, but offers his hand in the palm facing bottom position(ullangai keezha paakira maadiri) As per body language ! Was this specifically done to give more shape to the character ????

From: bingleguy on Wed Jul 5 23:52:05 2006.

Naaga wrote:

That is the main function of a director on the sets. [If the actor is experienced and doing a major role, then they will do it themselves.... or else, ask the director as to, 'what is the situation? have i been here before? do i know these people? etc.' For the 'Junior artistes' (aka extras) it is the responsibility of the director or his assistants to instruct them]

That gives me an idea of how it happens

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What if a novice is taking up a major role ... guess that time the director takes the complete responsibility of shaping the character ....

Some have (Instances are when i wondered some time back, about the 'eye for details' of the members of this forum...) and some have not (Instances are when they have not...) [Bingleguy, i am not being cagey here........just reserving it for later... especially about some of my slips that have gone unnoticed..... Twisted Evil

Twisted Evil

Smile

Laughing

i knew u would have done it with a purpose,

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still wanna make u feel the pinch !

Well, you can import any of the text portion of any of the pages on the web into these code breaking softwares and search for words or phrases like 'bingleguy' and 'Srirangathu devadaigal'....... Wink

Wink

, you might hit upon one or two occurrances. Larger the text portion, greater is your chance of a hit.

hmn, understood a bit

or phrases like 'bingleguy' and 'Srirangathu devadaigal'....... Wink

Wink

Wink

indha sentence a en ippo quote panni kaamichirukkeenga

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From: bingleguy on Thu Jul 6 0:01:42 2006. [Full View]

TS waiting for ur complete updates
From: pavalamani pragasam on Thu Jul 6 1:42:46 2006. [Full View]

I have an eerie feeling that the missing ingredient Tulsi mentions & is so confident about its inclusion must be BLOOD! The qualifying factors are suspense!
From: mitra on Thu Jul 6 3:03:03 2006. [Full View]

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I have an eerie feeling that the missing ingredient Tulsi mentions & is so confident about its inclusion must be BLOOD! The qualifying factors are suspense!

I dont think that it is blood. She tells only the last ingredient is "rasgasium" and in one place "chidambara ragasium". So the last one is the "sthala viruksham". Anyways I will wait for the full update from TS.
From: ts on Thu Jul 6 3:35:24 2006. [Full View]

Akash asks somu if he copied things without any errors and if he can verify it. Somu declines the request. Akash asks how he is to believe in Somu. Somu asks him to belive it the same way he believes about the partial "medicine" that mukilan brought with him. KG and Akash go to the guest house with "page 20". Akash tells KG that it is binary code and that he has seen it in Somu's nadi. He says that his ggranddad had written something on the chuvadi that was in binary code. He asks KG's permission to decode it and starts writing it on a paper. The first line of binary code obiviously says "THILLAI" and the secodn line "THARU". Mukilan tells them that it means thillai tree, the sthala vriksham of chidambaram. KG jumps with ecstacy and gets ready to go to the temple. Akash stops him and tells him that there is no sthala vriksham in the temple any more and whats remaining is only erukkam plants.

KG calls Prof Selvaraj (Botony department) in Annamalai Univ. and asks him regarding the tree. He tells him that he is writing an article on sthala vrikshams and hence wants to see a tree and wants a few leaves from it. Selvaraj confirms that there is no tree in the temple and the only place to see them is in Pitchavaram. He warns them that the trees come under protection from the forest department and picking leaves is not allowed. KG asks him if there is any other place to get it from. Prof. tells them that a private farm enroute has a couple of trees and gives them directions.

KG etal rush to the farm and meet a guy called Vincent there. He tells them that Prof had briefed him and takes them inside the farm. He shows them the thillai tree. KG is excited and tries to pluck the leaves. Vincent stops him saying that the sap is poisonous and can created rashes. Mukilan uses his towel and takes a few small branches of the tree. Kg tells vincent that some others will come and ask about the leaves and he requests vincent to give them what they want but to inform KG about it. When they leave, the camera zooms into the tree and one can see white sap dripping from it.

They go to the guest house and KG sends off the watchman. He asks Mukilan to get prepared and goes inside to take a shower. Akash tells him that he has to freshen up after KG had finished. Mukilan is in the backyard, getting ready and KG calls Thulasi from his mobile. Vishnu picks up and KG gets irritated. He passes on the phone to Thulasi and KG tells her that the Rahasiyam is Thillai tree. Thulasi tells him that the verse in the nadi went something like "...semmaiyum....kalandha..." and asks him if he has both the ingredients. KG tells her that Somu's nadi had only one ingredient and that is thillai. Thulasi rejects the claim and tells him that what he is doing is a waste and puts the phone down. KG tries to convince her but Vishnu tells him that she had put the phone down long back.

Akash comes out fresh and goes to the backyard. Mukilan tells KG that Thulasi could be correct but KG wouldnt listen and ask him to go ahead. Akash sees them using a mud pots and dung cakes for fire and tells them it would be easy if cooked with gas. Mukilan tells him that the heat has to be perfect and also that it has to be prepared in direct sunlight. He adds some of the stuff he brought from the farm to the pot. KG asks him to use all of it. Mukilan tells him that he will use it bit by bit as he doesnt want to spoil them all, should the preparation go sideways. He reminds KG about the "semmaiyum" in the poem but KG tells him that another meaning for Semmai is mature.. and asks him to add mature leaves. Mukilan starts to put the leaves one by one and Akash asks him if he knew how many to use. Mukilan tells him that there is nothing written about it and the medicine will tell them when it is enough. Juse then the concoction start to boil and transforms into a radiant blue paste. KG is ecstatic that the medicine is ready. He asks mukilan to put them into a bottle. Mukilan seems a bit skeptical.

KG takes the medicine into the guest house and Akash follows. He tells KG that since KG has the medicine now, he would leave. KG tells him that Akash had been so helpful to him and he would not want him to go empty handed and goes inside his room. He comes out with a pistol in his hand and points it at AKash. Akash is gobsmacked and petrified and pleads KG to spare him. KG tells him now that Akash knows everything abut the preparation, he doesnt to let Akash go, for he would take the recipe with him to Thillai. Mukilan tries to stop KG and in the confusion, Akash escapes and runs away. KG screams that the will shoot if Akash doesnt stop but Akash tries to run away.

Mukilan is very confused and KG looks at him with a grim in his face. He tells mukilan that he wanted to scare away Akash so that he would go to Thillai with the details of the medicine and that they would prepare it. He wanted them to do it as he wanted it to be tested first on Arthi. Mukilan cannot believe his eyes. KG tells him that he is selfish and he can do nothing about it as he wants to be selfish.

Akash runs into PD's house and looks for Thillai. Thillai comes from inside and Akash asks for his pardon. He tells them that KG tries to imprison him. Somu laughs at him and tells him thats the price he pays for siding with KG. Akash asks Somu to shut up and tells thillai that KG tried to lock him up after he decoded the rahasiyam for him. Thillai asks Akash about the rahasiyam...thodarum
From: ts on Thu Jul 6 3:45:41 2006. [Full View]

I have to agree that the acting has been very good... and body language reflects the character perfectly.

I think the "Semmaiyum..." refers to either tender or dried up leaves (or a mixture), not mature green ones. What i think will happen is that Thillai will try to pick dried up leaves, when the sap will drip into his eyes, thus making him blind.

Also, this could have some relation to the number of leaves in the thillai tree picture by the dumb beggar in the thinnai.

There could be another "rahasiyam" that could end up in the medicine, without their knowledge thus completing the medicine where Arthi could be cured but not Thulasi.

We shall see....
From: pavalamani pragasam on Thu Jul 6 4:10:20 2006. [Full View]

The beggar with his coded messages & deceptively silly drawings/actions is an intriguing/interesting character!
From: bingleguy on Thu Jul 6 4:43:59 2006. [Full View]

Thanks TS for the updates

TS, do u say that selfishness gets its own pay ?! Why is KG trying to be selfish ... ?

From: rami on Thu Jul 6 5:03:57 2006.

I have to agree that the acting has been very good... and body language reflects the character perfectly.

I think the "Semmaiyum..." refers to either tender or dried up leaves (or a mixture), not mature green ones. What i think will happen is that Thillai will try to pick dried up leaves, when the sap will drip into his eyes, thus making him blind.

Also, this could have some relation to the number of leaves in the thillai tree picture by the dumb beggar in the thinnai.

There could be another "rahasiyam" that could end up in the medicine, without their knowledge thus completing the medicine where Arthi could be cured but not Thulasi.

We shall see....

In medicine Thillai tree is only mentioned... Also the beggar once says "Marunthe visham.. vishame marunthu".. and in one of the previous episode a person (Arthis sisters maths tutor - the one constantly asks somu for 10 Rs to buy poison) is shown cured by a poison.

Thus the ingredient to be added in the medicine might be the "sap" of the thillai tree ... and not the leaves alone ...

From: mitra on Thu Jul 6 5:53:37 2006. [Full View]

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Thus the ingredient to be added in the medicine might be the "sap" of the thillai tree ... and not the leaves alone ...

As I looked for the meaning of semmai i got one meaning as "sirappu". Doesn�t semmai also mean pasumai or sezhumai??
Tamil is not my strong subject

I think the white milk (sap) oozing from the tree plays an important part in preparing the medicine.

I feel hard to guess without seeing the serial. Anyhow u guys do a gr8 job by posting the story and interpreting it. I get to see lot of small hints clearly from that.

Still one thing is troubling me. 3 incidents coinciding at a particular point in a particular time n date is bizarre. I don�t get that?? I�m sorry Mr. Naga for my imprecision, the deaths r due to personal enmity and at the same time the �Kadavul�s� people come to take regai. Somu also gets there in that precise time.

How is that possible? Do you say that this is because of Naadi. Like you pointed out earlier, Dr. Thillairajan finding that all people he collected naadi from was responsible for the death of 14 other people. If not know or in the serial hope you will give your reasons in the last in the forum.
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From: ts on Thu Jul 6 7:39:29 2006.

mitra wrote:

Still one thing is troubling me. 3 incidents coinciding at a particular point in a particular time n date is bizarre. I don�t get that?? I�m sorry Mr. Naga for my imprecision, the deaths r due to personal enmity and at the same time the �Kadavul�s� people come to take regai. Somu also gets there in that precise time.

How is that possible? Do you say that this is because of Naadi. Like you pointed out earlier, Dr. Thillairajan finding that all people he collected naadi from was responsible for the death of 14 other people. If not know or in the serial hope you will give your reasons in the last in the forum.

I think the whole idea of the two episodes about the ones responsible for the 14 deaths is to emphasize coincidence.

From: aanaa on Thu Jul 6 8:02:28 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Akash about the rahasiyam...thodarum

thanks for the update
From: aanaa on Thu Jul 6 8:09:03 2006. [Full View]

mitra wrote:

As I looked for the meaning of semmai it[/tscii]

immaikkum EzhEzh piRavikkum paRRAvAn
nammai uDaiyavan nArAyaNan nambi
Semmai uDaiya tirukkaiyAl tAL paRRi
ammi midikka kanAk kaNDEn tozhI! nAn

Semmai uDaiya tirukkaiyAl tAL paRRi: Semmai here refers to two attributes of His tiruk-kai. One is the beautiful red color of His palms. The other is His ASrita pAratantriyam - His becoming subservient to those who seek refuge in Him - or His great desire to hold His bhaktas' feet, 'Semmai".

refer:http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/7673/azhwars/varanam8.html

From: mitra on Thu Jul 6 8:25:10 2006.

aanaa wrote:

mitra wrote:

As I looked for the meaning of semmai it[/tscii]

immaikkum EzhEzh piRavikkum paRRAvAn
nammai uDaiyavan nArAyaNan nambi
Semmai uDaiya tirukkaiyAl tAL paRRi
ammi midikka kanAk kaNDEn tozhI! nAn

Semmai uDaiya tirukkaiyAl tAL paRRi: Semmai here refers to two attributes of His tiruk-kai. One is the beautiful red color of His palms. The other is His ASrita pAratantriyam - His becoming subservient to those who seek refuge in Him - or His great desire to hold His bhaktas' feet, 'Semmai".

refer:http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/7673/azhwars/varanam8.html

Thanks aana for the link. This is a para from varanamayiram..

I think the whole idea of the two episodes about the ones responsible for the 14 deaths is to emphasize coincidence.

I agree with you ts and I also have the same feeling.

From: ssanjinika on Thu Jul 6 9:16:35 2006. [Full View]

I remember in one episode,Thulasi explains about the leaves and says that the medicine needs 3 kinds of leaves in different stages of maturity.The leaf from the first plant should be tender,just begining to unfold with a nice almost red color,the second one a lil bit mature and the third fully mature.Have they got all the three kinds of leaves?
From: ssanjinika on Thu Jul 6 9:23:32 2006. [Full View]

bingleguy wrote:

Thanks TS for the updates

TS, do u say that selfishness gets its own pay ?! Why is KG trying to be selfish ... ?

Dont think hes trying to be selfish,He is a selfish person.Didnt he make use of somu for his own gain.He knew Somu was being chased by the police and somu's entire life could be in jeopardy and still he didnt really do anything to help him.His thought was let me finish the medicine and then I will "Save" somu.It could have become too late then.It was even worse Aarthi.Agreed his "followers" injected medicine in to Aarthi,but he covered up for them.He didnt worry that there was another innocent soul whose life was hanging in balance all because he wanted the medicine for his precious daughter.Who cared if the world was ending as long as me and my family members are safe seems to be the attitude of KumaraGuru.
From: pavalamani pragasam on Thu Jul 6 9:34:56 2006. [Full View]

Yes, I clearly remember Thulasi describing the 3 stages of leaves!!!

From: AJ on Thu Jul 6 10:47:45 2006.

ssanjinika wrote:

I remember in one episode,Thulasi explains about the leaves and says that the medicine needs 3 kinds of leaves in different stages of maturity.The leaf from the first plant should be tender,just begining to unfold with a nice almost red color,the second one a lil bit mature and the third fully mature.Have they got all the three kinds of leaves?

I had posted here earlier, some facts about the Thillai tree. It's young leaves are pinkish, and old 'mature' leaves turn bright red when they are about to fall off. Check out this link for more details
http://www.naturia.per.sg/buloh/plants/blind%20your%20eye.htm

'Semmai' can also indicate the bright red colour can't it? I am not very well versed in tamil ...so, correct me if I'm wrong.
Semmai meaning 'red' and also 'mature' as told by KG fits the puzzle perfectly, I would imagine.
Also, Thulasi once made this origami of a red leaf and a golden leaf and mentioned that both of them combined would complete the ragasiyam.
I was looking for the bright red colored leaves when the Thillai tree was shown on screen. But I didn't find any red leaves. The tree had only green leaves.
KG is probably acting in haste.
Thillairajan might end up unearthing the correct ragasiyam.

Great update TS.

From: VENKIRAJA on Thu Jul 6 10:53:47 2006. [Full View]

naga has become the manirathnam of TV
From: ts on Thu Jul 6 11:11:57 2006. [Full View]

VENKIRAJA wrote:

naga has become the manirathnam of TV

I think naga will take it as a "compliment"

only just trying to be a bit sarcastic
From: ssanjinika on Thu Jul 6 11:17:34 2006. [Full View]

Interesting link AJ!
The leaves which were shown yesterday were distinctly green.Even mukilan seems to have forgotten tulasi's explaination about the leaves.
From: goldkiddo on Thu Jul 6 13:11:35 2006. [Full View]

102 was one fast -paced episode !

Thanks for that detailed update TS. TS and AJ - good thinking on the red coloured leaves.

If thulasi knows so much about the red and golden leaves, she is doing precious little to help herself, even after KG tells her that the last herb is thillai.

Thanks Mr. Naaga for putting CR back on the fast track.
From: AJ on Thu Jul 6 14:45:14 2006. [Full View]

goldkiddo wrote:

If thulasi knows so much about the red and golden leaves, she is doing precious little to help herself, even after KG tells her that the last herb is thillai.

That's true. She had mentioned the botanical name of Thillai on last night's episode which is 'Excoecaria agallocha' and also added that the plant has anti-HIV properties. She seemed pretty familiar with its characteristics. You'd think she would connect the dots together and figure out the red leaves are a part of the medicine.

But, we might have mistaken the puzzle altogether. 'Semmai' may not mean 'red' and the red leaves may carry no significance.
We'll have to wait and watch how the ragasiyam unfolds.

Have to admit, the goings are getting pretty interesting. Kudos to Mr. Naga and all the actors. They're doing a pretty good job.

From: arunvani on Thu Jul 6 16:55:34 2006.

ssanjinika wrote:

I remember in one episode,Thulasi explains about the leaves and says that the medicine needs 3 kinds of leaves in different stages of maturity.The leaf from the first plant should be tender,just begining to unfold with a nice almost red color,the second one a lil bit mature and the third fully mature.Have they got all the three kinds of leaves?

You are right. Thulasi shows the dried leaves as in golden color in her usual style of paper origamy. This is the Semmai I think nadi talks about.

Question

Question

Question

From: aanaa on Thu Jul 6 18:00:18 2006. [Full View]

AJ wrote:

Thillairajan might end up unearthing the correct ragasiyam.
.

thx for the link

From: bingleguy on Thu Jul 6 23:27:24 2006.

ssanjinika wrote:

bingleguy wrote:

Thanks TS for the updates Clap

Clap

TS, do u say that selfishness gets its own pay ?! Why is KG trying to be selfish ... ?

Dont think hes trying to be selfish,He is a selfish person.Didnt he make use of somu for his own gain.He knew Somu was being chased by the police and somu's entire life could be in jeopardy and still he didnt really do anything to help him.His thought was let me finish the medicine and then I will "Save" somu.It could have become too late then.It was even worse Aarthi.Agreed his "followers" injected medicine in to Aarthi,but he covered up for them.He didnt worry that there was another innocent soul whose life was hanging in balance all because he wanted the medicine for his precious daughter.Who cared if the world was ending as long as me and my family members are safe seems to be the attitude of KumaraGuru.

From: bingleguy on Thu Jul 6 23:28:48 2006. [Full View]

can somebody tell me the exact verses given in the olaichuvadi !
From: pavalamani pragasam on Thu Jul 6 23:37:57 2006. [Full View]

Mukilan says casually to the question about how many leaves to be added that it is not mentioned. The editor is over enthusiastic about getting the cure for his daughter. In the process seems to overlook minor yet important details about preparing the concoction. A crude method, totally. On the contrary, the beggar, the naadi and Thulasi show clear confidence in their intelligent but cryptic messages. Correct interpretation of them only will lead to the success of finding the cure. As already guessed may be the doctor's patience will be rewarded in the end. His affection for his daughter Arthi has more pathos and depth than the editor's ostentatious, loud concern for his daughter Thulasi. Excellent characterisation & picturisation!

From: bingleguy on Fri Jul 7 1:45:40 2006.

pavalamani pragasam wrote:

Mukilan says casually to the question about how many leaves to be added that it is not mentioned. The editor is over enthusiastic about getting the cure for his daughter. In the process seems to overlook minor yet important details about preparing the concoction. A crude method, totally. On the contrary, the beggar, the naadi and Thulasi show clear confidence in their intelligent but cryptic messages. Correct interpretation of them only will lead to the success of finding the cure. As already guessed may be the doctor's patience will be rewarded in the end. His affection for his daughter Arthi has more pathos and depth than the editor's ostentatious, loud concern for his daughter Thulasi. Excellent characterisation & picturisation!

A truly awesome analysis !

Clap

PP maam !

A reward for patience

Rolling Eyes

huh ! actually at this point of time, when somebody badly needs a cure, will it be so correct waiting patiently ... ofcourse i understand that a wrong medicine might cause adverse effects ... still ....

Neither Somebody not be so patient like the doc
nor be so impatient like KG !

From: goldkiddo on Fri Jul 7 2:52:34 2006.

pavalamani pragasam wrote:

As already guessed may be the doctor's patience will be rewarded in the end. His affection for his daughter Arthi has more pathos and depth than the editor's ostentatious, loud concern for his daughter Thulasi.

Well all is not lost for KG. He can still try for a patent on his freshly concocted blue herbal hair gel

Very Happy

From: crazy on Fri Jul 7 10:12:48 2006. [Full View]

ts thank u for the update
From: mirunmanish on Sun Jul 9 14:31:03 2006. [Full View]

VENKIRAJA wrote:

naga has become the manirathnam of TV

i also feel exactly the same.
his picturisation & way of moving along the story giving importance to almost all chars is really gr8

HATS OFF TO YOU SIR

From: bingleguy on Sun Jul 9 23:08:03 2006.

mirunmanish wrote:

VENKIRAJA wrote:

naga has become the manirathnam of TV

i also feel exactly the same.
his picturisation & way of moving along the story giving importance to almost all chars is really gr8

HATS OFF TO YOU SIR

Smile

I appreciate the sense of praising, but dont u think our Naga has a seperate stand which proves him to stand unique ! Something unique is uncomparable or cannot be equated with anybody else !

I would, in fact i feel many would feel satisfied if we give a position of a UNIQUE personality instead of a comparison, it would be the right choice !

naga sir, u r unique ! V are happy to have interactions with you !

From: ts on Mon Jul 10 4:53:46 2006.

bingleguy wrote:

Smile

I appreciate the sense of praising, but dont u think our Naga has a seperate stand which proves him to stand unique ! Something unique is uncomparable or cannot be equated with anybody else !

I would, in fact i feel many would feel satisfied if we give a position of a UNIQUE personality instead of a comparison, it would be the right choice !

naga sir, u r unique ! V are happy to have interactions with you !

I felt the same and hence i posted saying that Naaga will take it as a compliment

Smile

From: mirunmanish on Mon Jul 10 9:11:14 2006. [Full View]

bingleguy wrote:

I appreciate the ......... u r unique ! V are happy to have interactions with you !

i totally accept wid u.that was just a comparision to show how gr8 he is.he is absolutely unique for he is the only person to make such a mysterious serial among all common crying soaps in this era

From: mitra on Mon Jul 10 10:04:16 2006.

bingleguy wrote:

I would, in fact i feel many would feel satisfied if we give a position of a UNIQUE personality instead of a comparison, it would be the right choice !

naga sir, u r unique ! V are happy to have interactions with you !

I wholly agree with you Bingleguy. Each of them has an inimitable stand in their position. Sometimes they have a certain kind of similarity, which is picked up by us to use it as an association. That doesn�t mean that they aren�t unique. They are, each of them is, each of us is and of course Director NAGA is beyond compare.

I just want to say my opinion here Naga Sir. I feel that your serials would even more be triumph if you choose the actors who can act gracefully. In your serial �Athu mattum ragasium� there are lots of short characters and I agree they don�t need any emphasis but it would be a success if even they perform well. I think their expression on the face is not up to the point. The one acting as puliyan (and also his mother character) is a major character in the story and I think you can extract more from them. In CR most/all of them are doing a gr8 job. Especially I would like to appreciate Mr. Y.G.Mahendran�s acting. Whenever you see him on screen, its like you are really seeing a father who have lot his daughter. He has brought life to the character. Mr. Mohanram is acting in many mega serials and he has done well as a father who wants his daughter to get cured and also want her to get the name for discovering the medicine. Bombay gnanam, the one acting as arthi, nithya, etc etc�

These are what I felt. I am neither a critic nor an actor or a director.

Rolling Eyes

From: ts on Mon Jul 10 12:22:16 2006. [Full View]

Mitra,

I dont know if you know, Naaga pulled out from "Adhu mattum Rahasiyam" a long time ago.
From: ssanjinika on Mon Jul 10 12:37:46 2006. [Full View]

Mitra,Naaga is not the director of the serial Adhu Mattum Ragasiyam.I think he pulled out a long time back.
From: pavalamani pragasam on Mon Jul 10 23:12:29 2006. [Full View]

Digression:
Mohanram excels in comedy too. Watch him in "Rukku..Rukku..Rukkumani" in Jaya TV(Saturday afternoon).
From: bingleguy on Mon Jul 10 23:36:20 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Mitra,

I dont know if you know, Naaga pulled out from "Adhu mattum Rahasiyam" a long time ago.

Ya i too heard so ! coz i see that nowadays it is getting telecasted very late at night on saturday ... probably around 10 pm ....
From: ts on Tue Jul 11 4:34:19 2006. [Full View]

Guys,

Looks like i will be out of town tomorrow. So could someone do an update please.

TIA
TS
From: mitra on Tue Jul 11 11:01:20 2006. [Full View]

oh ok my mistake, I didnt know that.

ts for making me aware of the fact.

sorry Mr. Naga for that
From: bingleguy on Wed Jul 12 5:50:12 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Guys,

Looks like i will be out of town tomorrow. So could someone do an update please.

TIA
TS

OMG ! In case i reach home early, i shall surely try to do the same i may not be able to do justice when compared to ur way of writing but still .... will try !
From: mirunmanish on Wed Jul 12 12:30:43 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Guys,

Looks like i will be out of town tomorrow. So could someone do an update please.

TIA
TS

i may not be able to post it as gud as TS does.any omission/mistake kindly post a reply

very intersting one today also.

akash explains to thillai & somu(who doesn't look like believing him) abt the medicine & says that 20th page contains a binary code.somu objects saying binary code is not possible in that century for it is being used only now in computers.thillai asks let him continue.akash explains that the code translates to thillai tree & is interested in seeing that suvadi from somu which somu objects.then the trio move to the place where the tree is & the doctor is sooooo interested & very actively taking the leaves from the tree without heeding akash's caution that the liquid is injurious & few drops fall into his eyes but doesn't bother abt it.(for rest of the episode he is seen suffering with his eyes).

A person Vincent calls GOD to inform that the trio had come & taken the leaves from the tree.GOD says this is wat he expected & asks mukilan to get ready to leave for chn as thillai will be moving there after he makes the medicine.

The investigator(forgot his name) comes to GOD's place & shows him a look-alike medicine & says that he knew GOD was not responsible for any of the attacks after the death of tamil vathiyar but he was behnd him in order to get hold the suvadis he had taken from the tamil vadiyar's house.the student who killed the tamil vadiyar had said that the medicine that had been prepared from the instructions in the suvadis & also that the medicine was a very heavy drug.the student had tried to pacify his tutor that this drug will hv a very high value but as the tutor disagreed, there was a fight btwn the two & the student killed his tutor.

the investigator was very much lured by the offer of the student & so was trying to get those suvadis.he points a gun at GOD & asks him to give those suvadis.mukilan says that these two medicines can't be same.the investigator wants to prove that & he gives a pinch of his DRUG to mukilan to taste & he himself tastes a pinch of that medicine of GOD

in the meantime,akash & co are helped by that grocer to prepare the medicine & akash guides him.finally after the medicine is prepared as guided, the doctor is verrryy excited & relieved.

when the investigator pacifies GOD for the suvadis, he is surrounded by the vigilance team who claim that he has been watched for so long & is under arrest.he tries to escape using GOD as a prisoner but a kind of bubble starts coming out of his mouth & he dies.

GOD is so satisfied that he is no more involved in those murder cases & asks mukilan to inform thillai that the medicine they hv prepared is a poison & not to let Arthi hv that.he says that he is SELFISH & wants a person to test the medicine prepared by him b4 giving it to his daughter.Mukilan goes away.The vigilance team say that they need those suvadis wat was given to them by GOD for some more time & leave the place

THODARUM......
From: sangeetha_me on Wed Jul 12 15:28:48 2006. [Full View]

who is the investigator u r talking abt? r u referring to Aadiyapaatham? God..aadiyapaatham dies???!!!! plz clarify..i dint get the part where u said

"when the investigator pacifies GOD for the suvadis, he is surrounded by the vigilance team who claim that he has been watched for so long & is under arrest.he tries to escape using GOD as a prisoner but a kind of bubble starts coming out of his mouth & he dies."
From: aanaa on Wed Jul 12 18:15:39 2006. [Full View]

mirunmanish wrote:

very intersting one today also.
THODARUM......

thanx

early posting
we have another 3 hours for telecasting
From: bingleguy on Wed Jul 12 23:29:44 2006. [Full View]

Thanks Mirun for ur updates !
I reached home by 9.15 pm only, n missed watching the episode !

KG suddenly turns from his selfish behaviour to an honest one .... huh ! Ya the sap of the tree falling into Thillai's eyes was predicted
did the blue version of the so called medicine an indication Naga sir ? i know u r good in that ... guess nobody would have thought about it ....

Guys n Gals .... A happy news to share .... i had the honour of meeting an extraordinary man , one of the widely known and esteemed, famed, renowned Marma Desam Vidaadhu Karuppu, Chidambara Rahasiyam pugazh Director NAGA !
From: dsankaran on Thu Jul 13 0:18:57 2006. [Full View]

I happened to watch this episode. Thanks for the update mirunmanish. A few additions that I thought were interesting:

In the first scene, when Somu questions Akash about why he needs the suvadi, Akash says that he is not behind the medicine, but something else. Somu questions him further and Akash says that he will reveal his intentions after the suvadi comes to his hands. Akash requests Thillairajan to give the suvadi to him as soon as they get hold of the medicine. Thillairajan agrees.

When the grocer is preparing the medicine at PD's house and it turns blue in color, the grocer makes a comment to the effect that how can Siddha medicine be blue in color? The rest of them ignore this comment. Actually, Dr. Thillai confirms with Akash that the medicine prepared by Mukilan was also blue in color. Once Akash confirms, he is jubilant and thanks God turnin towards the Nataraja statue.

Bingleguy, In today's episode, KG says that he has selfish motives - a couple of times. I am not sure if you can call him honest, but his only focus is on getting Thulasi cured of her ailment (or so it seems)

I don't know, it seemed kind of indigestible that the AC would become interested in the recipe for the drug (bodhai porul) mid way through the investigation. Even before the confession about the Tamil Vaadhiyaar's murder, he knew that the suvadis carried the secret to AIDS medicine, didn't he? Anyway, why the AC character was killed this way, Naaga only knows.
From: pavalamani pragasam on Thu Jul 13 0:44:36 2006. [Full View]

Last night I prepared the update very diligently, but alas, th server failed. Even tho' the updates given are very good I want to post mine too not wanting to let go my pains waste!!!

Update of fast-paced episode #103:

Akash talks excitedly about the binary code in the 20th page of the suvadi & longs to see it. But Somu stiffly resists, suspecting Akash�s coming back to them as some ploy of God to cheat them; he scoffs at the idea of the very old authors of the suvadis knowing about binary code of the computer age. Akash refutes saying his great grandfather etched the last page of the suvadi rewriting the coded message & he didn�t know computers. Somu gingerly hands him the copy of the suvadi�s page. Akash says the decoded word is �thillai tharu�. Abirami�s father helps with the information that it was the �sthala virusham� which is dead now; but it can be found in Pichavaram.

YGee, Somu & Akash hasten in an auto to the grove of the professor, to the same tree the editor KG visited. YGee excitedly plucks the leaves & hands them to Somu & rubs his eyes with his sap-stained fingers thus hurting his eyes which turn red. After the trio leaves the professor emerges from his hiding place to call KG & informs him about the expected arrival of the party. KG chuckles & predicts to Mukilan the party will proceed straight to Chennai once they get the medicine ready.

When YGee & co return home the grocer arrives & offers to concoct the medicine. Akash guides him from his memory of watching Mukilan doing it. 15 leaves are added. When the blue jelly is got ready YGee fervently thanks God for finally getting the cure for his daughter.

As KG is happily contemplating the completion of the party�s preparation of the medicine he is shocked to see the Assistant Commissioner approaching him with a bottle containing a blue medicine obtained from the Tamil vaaththiyaar�s house. Dhakshinamoorthy, the student had confessed to killing the Tamil vaaththiyaar in a fight over the medicine which is actually an intoxicant to be inhaled along steam. AC pulls out his revolver & orders KG to hand over the suvadis he took from the Tamil vaaththiyaar. KG angrily protests saying he has no right to be behaving like this when he didn�t have his advocate with him. AC answers that may be true if he was acting in the capacity of AC. But he was now acting as an aspirant for quick money, one who knows the price of the drug in the international market. He wanted the suvadis to get wealthy.

Mukilan interrupts blurting out that the blue medicine KG was holding in his hand was obtained only after finding the 12th suvadi. The medicine prepared with the help of Tamil vaaththiyaar�s suvadis was in the form of white granules only. He is certain the blue medicine in AC�s hand & the blue medicine in KG�s hand were different.(A difference of shades of the blue is obvious) AC says his medicine smells like camphor & tastes sour. He forces Mukilan to taste it while at the same time he tries to taste KG�s medicine continuing to hold KG at his revolver�s point. Suddenly from the side emerges the Vigilance officer who entreats KG not to offer resistance to the AC & risk his own life. The Vigilance staff had for long suspected the way AC was conducting the case and were secretly watching. In an instant a foaming AC falls dead. Even as the Vigilance staff take charge of the situation KG is all tense, pulls aside Mukilan & instructs him urgently to go to YGee to stop him from giving his medical preparation to Arthi since it has been found to be poisonous. When Mukilan looks at him with disbelief about his concern for Arthi�s life KG admits with vehement candour his selfishness in wanting to keep Arthi alive- to test his medicine on her when he gets it ready.

From: mirunmanish on Thu Jul 13 0:49:41 2006.

sangeetha_me wrote:

who is the investigator u r talking abt? r u referring to Aadiyapaatham? God..aadiyapaatham dies???!!!! Shocked

Shocked

plz clarify..i dint get the part where u said

ya it is aadiyapaatham i'm talking abt.he dies because of poisoning

aanaa wrote:

thanx

early posting
we have another 3 hours for telecasting

that's because i live in india & i watched at 8.30 PM IST

dsankaran wrote:

I happened to watch this episode. Thanks for the update mirunmanish. A few additions that I thought were interesting:....

.....Anyway, why the AC character was killed this way, Naaga only knows.

thank u for the additions

Very Happy

bingleguy wrote:

Thanks Mirun Clap

Clap

for ur updates !

btw my name is manish

Embarassed

From: Aathav52 on Thu Jul 13 1:52:50 2006. [Full View]

I told earlier, that Adiyapatham is a vilan.
From: pavalamani pragasam on Thu Jul 13 2:06:37 2006. [Full View]

My wild guess about the next episode:

Mukilan delivers the message sent by KG to YGee & co who are shocked & are filled with helplessness. Abirami's aunt, the terminally ill woman suffering intolerable agony overhears the news about the poisonous nature of the newly concocted medicine. She secretly manages to get hold of it & consumes it. And instead of dying gets a miraculous riddance from her ailment!

Already the crazy teacher was cured of stomach cancer by taking in poison. He said what is poison for one person is cure for another.

A twist to reveal the rich knowledge embedded in old suvadis. A fresh start for searching the missing ingredient for the cure for AIDS. Many more episodes to go!
From: mirunmanish on Thu Jul 13 2:45:42 2006. [Full View]

Aathav52 wrote:

I told earlier, that Adiyapatham is a vilan.

congrats.u can look forward to become a director
From: aanaa on Thu Jul 13 8:17:42 2006. [Full View]

sangeetha_me wrote:

who is the investigator

inspetor - Adiyapadam
gone thru all investigation as AC
- dead
From: bingleguy on Thu Jul 13 8:21:02 2006. [Full View]

Guys n Gals .... do not come to any sort of conclusion ........................ We cannot predict Naga ....

he is a person, who cannot be gauged at so easily, episode by episode he has built the expectation in us ... let u enjoy the same for his forthcoming episodes too ..... lets not to any conclusions .....

Naga sir ..... you are by your way unique and admirable......
From: aanaa on Thu Jul 13 8:21:28 2006. [Full View]

mirunmanish wrote:

that's because i live in india & i watched at 8.30 PM IST
btw my name is manish

Understand -
u r 10 hrs ahead
seeing the world early
From: pavalamani pragasam on Thu Jul 13 8:25:17 2006. [Full View]

How can we forget Abirami's father's strong trust in the veracity of nadi's prediction, that the cure for his sister's pain will come from Dr.Thillai ie YGee?
From: bingleguy on Thu Jul 13 8:30:29 2006. [Full View]

pavalamani pragasam wrote:

He said what is poison for one person is cure for another.

PP maam .... point taken ... i feel anybody who is suffering from unbearable pain would like to die instead of bearing the pain ..... Can happen adhu dhaan nambikkai irukke ....

Quote:

A twist to reveal the rich knowledge embedded in old suvadis. A fresh start for searching the missing ingredient for the cure for AIDS. Many more episodes to go!

PP maam .... we ve seen films like Aliens or something like that .... they give a kind of a start for another quest before they complete the current movie ...

Naga sir ... andha madiri edhaavadhu plan panreengala! Instead of giving an answer .... u give a question .... and leave us dangling ???????????????
From: VENKIRAJA on Thu Jul 13 8:58:45 2006. [Full View]

I THINK THAT THILLAI THARU WILL BE THE CORRECT MEDICINE,COZ BEFORE A MAN CAME TO ARTHI'S HOUSE N INFORMED THAT HE DRANK VENOM BUT WAS CURED OFF,AADIYAPAATHAM HAD NO AILMENT,BUT ARTHI HAS.I WANT CR TO END SOON,CAN'T WITHSTAND THE EXTRAGAVANZING CLIMAX(REMEMBER VITAATHU KARUPPU,RUDHRAVEENAI:BEAUTIFUL SUDDEN FICTION!)
From: goldkiddo on Thu Jul 13 9:15:37 2006. [Full View]

103 was a great episode like 102. I must say I enjoyed every second of it! And the scene where KG is under the nose of a gun was the most exciting.

For those of you who missed the episode and really really like the small details, here goes:

After a long explanation about how he found out about the bothai marunthu through tamil nambi's student, AC once again asks for the olais. KG tells him that he can make no such demand in the absence of his advocate. AC says I am not asking you as AC adiyapatham and whips out a gun which he points at KG. The small bottle in his hand is worth 20,000 he says. So that big bottle must be worth atleast 5 lakhs. Mugilan blurts out that their concoction was made with the help of the thillai leaves which is mentioned in the 12 th olai. He says he doesnt need the 12th olai. he needs only 11. He knew the 12 th was in akash's house, and came to know later that patti fooled him with a duplicate one. he will deal with her later.

he motions for mugilan to come forward. he says that the stuff he has tastes like karpooram and is pullippu. mugilan insists it turns blue only with tillai leaves. AC says he knows everything and asks mugilan to come forward with the bottle. He opens the small bottle he has and forces mugilan to taste it. Mugilan tastes it and agrees that it tastes like karpooram and is pullippu. AC then takes a small helping of the stuff made by KG and co. , tastes it and says it tastes like karpooram but is inippu.
He points the gun back at KG and says give the olais, I have plans to go abroad. When KG says he does not have it, he says you have scanned documents , give that. Just then vigilance officers surround him from both sides. But adiyapatham is still holding KG at gun point.

He makes KG walk ahead of him while he continues to point the gun at him. The vigilance officers tell him to stop, he is just making bigger mistakes.
The scene is shown from the back. KG is walking ahead, Adiyapatham coming behind holding the gun. After a few steps KG suddenly senses that the AC has stopped walking. KG slowly turns around and looks at Ac.
His face shows total shock.
The camera zooms and we see Adiyapatham foaming in the mouth.
A second later he drops dead.

Mr. Mohan ram's acting was far out!
Thanks Mr. Naaga for such a twist in the tale !
From: ssanjinika on Thu Jul 13 9:57:36 2006. [Full View]

I found the AC's character also turning out to be a villian very cinematic and slightly disgusting.Sorry Mr.Naga! I must say that I agree with detective here and feel that you just want to strech the story to the limits and then some here.

From: bpbp on Thu Jul 13 11:13:12 2006.

sangeetha_me wrote:

who is the investigator u r talking abt? r u referring to Aadiyapaatham? God..aadiyapaatham dies???!!!! Shocked

Shocked

plz clarify..i dint get the part where u said

"when the investigator pacifies GOD for the suvadis, he is surrounded by the vigilance team who claim that he has been watched for so long & is under arrest.he tries to escape using GOD as a prisoner but a kind of bubble starts coming out of his mouth & he dies."

It's adiyapaatham...the aquafina guy!

From: detective on Thu Jul 13 16:35:48 2006.

ssanjinika wrote:

I found the AC's character also turning out to be a villian very cinematic and slightly disgusting.Sorry Mr.Naga! I must say that I agree with detective here and feel that you just want to strech the story to the limits and then some here.

One good thing about AC's death is that (hopefully) we will not have to sit through more confessions of mixing poison in tea, masaal vadai etc...

From: ts on Fri Jul 14 5:49:58 2006. [Full View]

Thanks a lot Manish/Bingleguy/dsankaran/pp madam/goldkiddo for the updates.

I wonder if someone has a (digital) copy of this week's episode (like episode 78). Would highly appreciate pointers for downloads.
From: bingleguy on Fri Jul 14 6:00:07 2006. [Full View]

Gold Kiddo Thanks for the updates !

From: Thiruvidai on Fri Jul 14 8:53:22 2006.

ssanjinika wrote:

I found the AC's character also turning out to be a villian very cinematic and slightly disgusting.Sorry Mr.Naga! I must say that I agree with detective here and feel that you just want to strech the story to the limits and then some here.

"If " the AC character is indeed dead, I also think it is a bit cinematic.I say "If" because sometime back one of characters pretended like dying with foaming in the mouth and it was attributed to some medicine kept in the mouth. So, perhaps this may be a ploy ? (some kind of good cop- bad cop strategy).

Having said that If indeed the AC character is shown to be a villian, in my view, there are a few points about this character which may need to be addressed( I will cover it in a later posting).

By the Way, if the AC is a villian, it may be quite probable that Mani Josier's assistant be an international gang (which is also after the medicine)agent? If so,Akash can be another international gang agent and in the climax, we can have helicopter / car/bullock cart chase in Chidambarm - Tanjore road between the two gangs ? (No offence meant, just joking..)

Goldkiddo, mirunManish,dSankaran and Pavalamani Pragasam, thanks for your updates as I get to see the episode one week later, being in Singapore.

From: maxi on Fri Jul 14 8:55:11 2006. [Full View]

mirunmanish wrote:

btw my name is manish

then what or who is Mirun?
From: mirunmanish on Fri Jul 14 10:36:21 2006. [Full View]

maxi wrote:

mirunmanish wrote:

btw my name is manish

then what or who is Mirun?

that's my sis.this id is wat i use in all forums.like this kind of id
From: maxi on Fri Jul 14 12:01:46 2006. [Full View]

thats really sweet of u. shows ur love for ur sis. keep it up.

From: ssanjinika on Fri Jul 14 12:52:27 2006.

Thiruvidai wrote:

"If " the AC character is indeed dead, I also think it is a bit cinematic.I say "If" because sometime back one of characters pretended like dying with foaming in the mouth and it was attributed to some medicine kept in the mouth. So, perhaps this may be a ploy ? (some kind of good cop- bad cop strategy).

Hmm...well..I never thought it could be a ploy.If it is..then the story becomes more intriguing..but I dont think so,coz adiapatham would not have expected the medicine unless hes having some one watch KG all the time and didnt want Arthi tasting the medicine..and hence decided to play this eloborate scheme to save Aarthi.*Phew* it sounds so farfetched to me myself

Laughing

Am sure it cant be true..but your Good cop Bad cop theory does have some merit.

Thiruvidai wrote:

Having said that If indeed the AC character is shown to be a villian, in my view, there are a few points about this character which may need to be addressed( I will cover it in a later posting).

Yes!!!! If he is a bad guy then there are definitely some basic flaws in his characterization.

Thiruvidai wrote:

By the Way, if the AC is a villian, it may be quite probable that Mani Josier's assistant be an international gang (which is also after the medicine)agent? If so,Akash can be another international gang agent and in the climax, we can have helicopter / car/bullock cart chase in Chidambarm - Tanjore road between the two gangs ? (No offence meant, just joking..)

We will probably see bullock cart chases a few episodes down the line

Laughing

From: mirunmanish on Fri Jul 14 14:02:56 2006. [Full View]

maxi wrote:

thats really sweet of u. shows ur love for ur sis. keep it up.

thank u.
btw that update was also meant for my sis who relies completely upon the forum a there is no relay in her place
From: nacdaman on Fri Jul 14 14:21:05 2006. [Full View]

did you guys notice that the AC Aadiyapatham's dubbing voice was changed??? I have a sneaky feeling that his character was killed off midway to take him out of the serial.
From: aanaa on Sat Jul 15 9:04:37 2006. [Full View]

nacdaman wrote:

did you guys notice that the AC Aadiyapatham's dubbing voice was changed??? I have a sneaky feeling that his character was killed off midway to take him out of the serial.

wow
another angle!!
From: rami on Mon Jul 17 2:21:55 2006. [Full View]

Bingleguy has met with Naga ... Here is the "Nermuga Arimugam with Naga"

http://www.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?p=655304#655304
From: rami on Mon Jul 17 2:34:22 2006. [Full View]

As PP mam says, there will be a twist where the medicine prepared by the Doctor, Somu and Akash will be a real medicine and not similiar to the one GOD and mukilan prepared.

Though the procedure of preparation was said to be same, there would have been a difference which would be shown in future episodes.. (My strong guess is that, the SAP of the tree is also an important ingredient which the GOD & Co had missed.)
From: bingleguy on Mon Jul 17 2:59:05 2006. [Full View]

Thanks Rami
From: aanaa on Mon Jul 17 7:59:21 2006. [Full View]

rami wrote:

Bingleguy has met with Naga ... Here is the "Nermuga Arimugam with Naga"

thanks
From: pavalamani pragasam on Wed Jul 19 2:43:24 2006. [Full View]

A warning: Be prepared for a big surprise tonight
From: ts on Wed Jul 19 5:29:57 2006. [Full View]

pavalamani pragasam wrote:

A warning: Be prepared for a big surprise tonight

Is this a Prediction or some sort of Insider info you have ... dare i ask!
From: bingleguy on Wed Jul 19 5:34:30 2006. [Full View]

PP maam ! Sollaadheenga Sollaadheenga

TS ... there is really a surprise and ONE more bayangaram in CR tonight ... but i dare not tell all one more thing ..... :shh:
From: pavalamani pragasam on Wed Jul 19 5:48:59 2006. [Full View]

It IS inside news, ts! A couple of pm's from naaga to me in response to my posts here! bg also knows the news! Since he wants it so MUM is the word!

It might be a or a or or or all

Whatever it is the suspense will be over in a few hours!

From: bingleguy on Wed Jul 19 5:57:44 2006.

pavalamani pragasam wrote:

It IS inside news, ts! A couple of pm's from naaga to me in response to my posts here! bg also knows the news! Since he wants it so MUM is the word! Sigh2

Sigh2

It might be a Rolling Eyes

Rolling Eyes

Shocked

Argh!

Cry3

Whatever it is the suspense will be over in a few hours! Wink

Wink

Rolling Eyes

Wat do i say PP maam !

Rolling Eyes

Confused2

OMG

seri... ivvalavu dhooram silent aa irundhaachu, innum konja neram dhaane ...... thats ok ! innikki 6-7 meeting irukku, so will not be able to see CR .... coz 9 kku mela dhaan varuven .........

Sad

Naga sir..........................................

From: pavalamani pragasam on Wed Jul 19 6:13:45 2006. [Full View]

bg!

From: ts on Wed Jul 19 6:27:11 2006.

pavalamani pragasam wrote:

It IS inside news, ts! A couple of pm's from naaga to me in response to my posts here! bg also knows the news! Since he wants it so MUM is the word! Sigh2

Sigh2

It might be a Rolling Eyes

Rolling Eyes

Shocked

Argh!

Cry3

Swing Head

Whatever it is the suspense will be over in a few hours! Wink

Wink

Smile

a bit of suspense.. and little amount of adrenarlin will do no harm

Rolling Eyes

Dont worry bingleguy, i am back with my updates

Smile

(not that you need it now... but still)

From: pavalamani pragasam on Wed Jul 19 6:34:28 2006. [Full View]

The fact that the serial keeps us all on tenterhooks like this is naaga's So to him!
From: bingleguy on Wed Jul 19 6:44:04 2006. [Full View]

Naga sir !

u ve really made us sit on the edge of the chair to watch every moment of urs V cherish the times when we were really standing with our mouth wide open to see the next scene !

You deserve much more than this Naga sir !
From: bingleguy on Wed Jul 19 6:45:24 2006. [Full View]

pavalamani pragasam wrote:

bg!
From: aanaa on Wed Jul 19 8:04:55 2006. [Full View]

another day
From: pavalamani pragasam on Wed Jul 19 8:25:24 2006. [Full View]

bg, just kidding Dont be & put a curse of power failure or some such adversity

From: ts on Wed Jul 19 10:58:18 2006.

bingleguy wrote:

Naga sir !

Clap

Clap

u ve really made us sit on the edge of the chair to watch every moment of urs Smile

Smile

V cherish the times when we were really standing with our mouth wide open to see the next scene !

Double Thumbs Up

Double Thumbs Up

Clap

You deserve much more than this Naga sir ! Clap

Clap

Absolutely BG.... cant agree more specially the last sentence....

Not Worthy

From: ssanjinika on Wed Jul 19 11:38:31 2006. [Full View]

pavalamani pragasam wrote:

How can we forget Abirami's father's strong trust in the veracity of nadi's prediction, that the cure for his sister's pain will come from Dr.Thillai ie YGee?

Yes mam..I feel Dr.Thillai would somehow cure Abirami's Athai inspite of other doctors giving up.I seem to vaguely recall somthing like poison is medicine and medicine is poison or somthign like that said by Thulasi I think.Can somone shed more light on this?If poison can be medicine then why cant the concotion by thillai cure Abi's athai?
From: karthik_rcs on Wed Jul 19 12:16:52 2006. [Full View]

Today CR's last but one episode.
Suntv will cast the last episode on Sunday 2:30 PM IST

DOnt miss today's episode too. G8 in covering many things.
From: arunvani on Wed Jul 19 12:45:55 2006. [Full View]

Finally L is cured. Only AIDS is balance. That will be on Sunday 1430
Thillai is L I ' n Ethir marai. WOW
From: pavalamani pragasam on Wed Jul 19 13:10:34 2006. [Full View]

Chidhamabara ragasiyam aRiya puthan kizamai oru iravukkaaka kaaththirunthOm, ini thinam thinam annEram Meenavin muka tharisanam kidaikkumE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: ssanjinika on Wed Jul 19 13:31:09 2006. [Full View]

pavalamani pragasam wrote:

Chidhamabara ragasiyam aRiya puthan kizamai oru iravukkaaka kaaththirunthOm, ini thinam thinam annEram Meenavin muka tharisanam kidaikkumE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(Pls replace the comp with TV!!)
Natarajar edathil MeenavA???
From: nacdaman on Wed Jul 19 13:51:05 2006. [Full View]

I tht wednesday night was always naaga's time. Usually one serial follows another. Do we have to wait for long before the next one comes out?? Is he moving to another channel??
From: laddu on Wed Jul 19 15:04:22 2006. [Full View]

I'm back from the trip and It was wonderful to match the mind with the face..Yes, I met with Naga. Along with Naga was the character in the episode "Abirami" happened to see her too.

Naga was a perfect gentlemen greeted us and was very simple. He remembered all the nick names in the forum.
He is soft spoken and in the 20-25 minutes I had with him, I probably spoke more than he did wish I had let him speak more...short but sweet...good memories.

Don't worry friends, he's probably planning an other assignment for us already...
CR was awesome not only it made us more curious but it was also educational, in the sense, he has covered quiet lot of vast topics for simple minds like Nadi, Tech, Science and more... not like sindbad from 'thina thanthi' ....ya...the english sindbad ends faster...

I'm sure he'll bring us more exciting serials both comedy and ragasiyam.

Chao
From: pavalamani pragasam on Wed Jul 19 22:28:42 2006. [Full View]

kolaikaL, kuRRangkaL, sathikaL, soozchchikaL, alangkOlangkaL, akkiramangkaL malintha thodarkaL izu izuvena chavvu mittaay pOla izuththu kondirukkum aanaal aarvaththai thoondum sinthikka thoondum aRivum seRivum niRaintha thodar posukkenRu aNainthuvidum

Our curiosity kindled endlessly about unknown, rich heritage we dont know what to do with, imagination fed incredibly on juicy possibilities for our future world, the BGM, the superb origami, excellent portrais of lifelike characters, carefully culled artistes doing full justice to their roles, a perfect mix of entertainment & education conceived & delivered in an exquisite manner....
From: bingleguy on Wed Jul 19 23:21:55 2006. [Full View]

Naga sir ... oru vazhiyaa 2.30 slot vaangiteenga

We were very much worried, in fact dharna vellam plan pannalaamnnu ninachen .... neenga potta avvalavu effort um Completion ... adhuvum successful completion la dhaan irukku ! Abrupt aaa ninnurundhaa, it would have really tested ur patience !

Congrats

Well, TS, waiting for ur updates

laddu nice to hear that u met Naga sir !

Naga sir innikki editing pannum bodhu romba kathiri podaadheenga sir unga padaippugaL muzhusaa engaLukku venum !

budhan kizhamai Naga time but soooooooon veru oru dhinam meendum varum NAGA time kaathirungaL
From: Aathav52 on Thu Jul 20 1:25:47 2006. [Full View]

I think two more maranam will be happend cos the begar1 at Aakash thinnai draw a tree with 16 leaves. Now 12 murders and two deaths already completed.
From: ts on Thu Jul 20 4:52:59 2006. [Full View]

Thillai is happy about the medicine. The grocer sighs that they have turned him into a sidda vaidhya and gets ready to leave. Thillai asks Somu to get his wallet but the grocer refuses money. He asks abi to check the groceries and tells her that he will come back to take the money for it. Thillai gets read to leave for Chennai. He tells PD that he feels very conscious about not being able to do anything for Kamakshi. He pleads to PD that he has to take the medicine back to Arthi. Meanwhile Kamakshi moves in the bed and falls down. Abi and others go to her. Thillai goes to her and asks for her permission to leave. He promises to come back once Arthi shows some improvement. Kamakshi asks him to give her some poison before he leaves. Thillai tells her that he will be back. Akash asks him about the nadi that he promised. Somu tells him to forget it but Thillai makes him give his nadi to Akash.

Mukilan comes running and informs them about the AC and the medicine. Thillai is shocked and sits in the bench with a broken heart, the medicine by his side. Somu confronts Akash and asks him if he had to do anything with it and asks for the nadi. Akash refuses to give back the nadi and Somu chases him within the house. Akash tells him that the nadi is not his property but has details of other things. He says that nadis will have details of natural calamities happening from time to time and his dad had told him about it. Somu rubbishes it. Inbetween the confusion, Kamakshi takes the medicine inside her room and locks it from inside. Somu snatches the nadi from Akash and realises the medicine is gone. They knock on Kamakshi's door but she is busy eating the concoction. When the break into the room, they see that she had already consumed half bottle of the blue gel. Somu carries her to the hospital. Akash approaches Thillai and asks him about the nadi. Abi asks him if he doesnt have any compassion. He tells her that Kamakshi was gonna die anyway... it doesnt matter if it is due to cancer or the poison. She is very upset. He apologises to Thillai for his timing to ask about the nadi and leaves.

KG is in the guesthouse and Vishnu calls him. He asks KG about when he is returning. He tells KG that they knew about the poison and the AC's death. KG gets offended and cuts him off. Vishnu goes to Thlasi and tells her about the call. She wants to go to Chidambaram to get KG back.

Doctors are checking Kamakshi and they tell PD that thereis no trace of poison in her blood. PD etal are surprised. The lab report suggests that the "medicine" has 300 timesmore mercury than the human body can withstand but its a miracle that there is no evidence in her body. They want to run a few tests but Kamakshi is restless. She wants to go home and die there. Doctors tell PD that there is no sign of cancer and her blood count etc are as good as anybodys.

Kamakshi wakes up from her bed and calls Abi. She tells abi that she is very hungry and asks for food. Abi is happy to hear that and tells PD about it. PD is surprised too. Kamakshi asks him what the big surprise was and he tells her that it is the first time in 20 years that she had felt hungry and had sked for food. Thillai comes outside and bumps into Somu. He tells Somu that he has got blisters where the sap from the thillai tree had fallen. He says that he will be okay after a bath and goes to look for a towel. He cant see a thing and Somu is worried. He takes Thillai to a doctor.

KG is looking for his USB Pen and cant find it. He asks mukilan to look for it. Thulasi and Vishnu arrive and thulasi asks KG about the medicine. KG tells her that they had prepared it exactly the same way she had instructed but didnt know what went wrong. Vishnu asks him if he is qualified to do such things abd KG tells him that he is Thulasis dad and will do anything and goes inside. Mukilan tells them about kamakshi and visnhu seems interested.

Doctor informs Somu that Thillai's retinal nerves are badly affected and that he has lost his sight. He says that he doesnt know if this is temporary or permanent. Meanwhile Akash calls somu about the Nadi. Somu asks him if he doesnt have any compassion and his timing is very bad and puts the phone down... Thodarum... but only one more time... The last episode will be telecast on Sunday at 2:30pm IST.
From: mani_s on Thu Jul 20 7:18:47 2006. [Full View]

Thanks a lot to TS, Detective and others for the fantastic updates.
From: mani_s on Thu Jul 20 7:20:49 2006. [Full View]

bingleguy wrote:

PP maam ! Sollaadheenga Sollaadheenga

TS ... there is really a surprise and ONE more bayangaram in CR tonight ... but i dare not tell all one more thing ..... :shh:

What was the bayangaram - TR losing his eyesight Or the sad fact that the serial will end on Sunday?

For those keeping count of the names of Shiva in this serial - the name of the doctor who treats Kamakshi is Sadasivam.
From: bingleguy on Thu Jul 20 7:37:54 2006. [Full View]

Mani !

Ys, u r right, u didnt miss anything it was just the fact that it would end .... but probably one thing .... this Sunday plan was conveyed at the last moment ! Earlier CR was to end abruptly in 104 leaving the two more episodes which were on hold for the reason tha there was not slot !

Naga sir would have definitely had a tough time but his hardwork and dedication and our interests have given a way and tis getting telecasted on Sunday

Naga sir ! we are looking forward for a Grand telecast this Sunday are u appearing that time ???????

Thanks TS for your time and updates ... unga PM paathen, will respond positively tomorrow
From: mani_s on Thu Jul 20 7:44:13 2006. [Full View]

Oh, I see. Now something else makes sense.

I think it was episode 102 - after all the credits in the title scene, they initially showed the card '# 100' for the episode number, and then quickly replaced it with '# 102'. I thought this was a hint of something to come, but as usual I had put in more meaning to stuff in this serial than there really was....just like the way the grocer always gulps so much of water. Is he St. Agasthiar and the vessel his kamandalam?
From: bingleguy on Thu Jul 20 7:49:02 2006. [Full View]
From: aanaa on Thu Jul 20 8:10:16 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Thillai is happy about the medicine.... but only one more time... The last episode will be telecast on Sunday at 2:30pm IST.

thanks for the udpate]
From: aanaa on Thu Jul 20 8:13:06 2006. [Full View]

NAGA
I do remember you said prefer to broadcast your serial at this time slot.
unfortunately last episode will be on Sunday.

is it SUNTV made this decision? think so
however its greta episode.
""poison is medicine"" - said was true
From: aanaa on Thu Jul 20 8:15:19 2006. [Full View]

mani_s wrote:

What was the bayangaram - TR losing his eyesight Or the sad fact that the serial will end on Sunday?
.

Aarthi will be cured but you cannot see....
was told to YG
so he is now lost his eyesight

From: karthik_rcs on Thu Jul 20 11:31:39 2006.

mani_s wrote:

bingleguy wrote:

PP maam ! Sollaadheenga Sollaadheenga Smile

Smile

Wink

TS ... there is really a surprise and ONE more bayangaram in CR tonight ... but i dare not tell all one more thing ..... :shh:

What was the bayangaram - TR losing his eyesight Or the sad fact that the serial will end on Sunday?

For those keeping count of the names of Shiva in this serial - the name of the doctor who treats Kamakshi is Sadasivam.

How many shiva names did we encounter...any list..

From: karthik_rcs on Thu Jul 20 11:35:28 2006. [Full View]

Yes Me too waiting for agasthiyar .

Could it be Naga himself appearing...(wish)

That sidhar created Nadi josiyam
This Naga sidhar has brought light to outside world...
From: karthik_rcs on Thu Jul 20 11:38:34 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Thillai is happy about the medicine. The grocer sighs that they have turned him into a sidda vaidhya and gets ready to leave.

One more important thing to add.
Akash conveys to somu that, medicine is cure not only for leukemia,but for AIDS too
but somu seems little shocked and but doesnt believe in akash and hangs the receiver...
From: laddu on Thu Jul 20 13:58:21 2006. [Full View]

I visited Chidambaram too during my visit to India and the scene where Akash speaks to Somu was shot at the Chidambaram temple itself.. I can identify with the pictures I've taken on my mobile.....beautiful clean temple.
From: aanaa on Thu Jul 20 15:31:08 2006. [Full View]

arunvani wrote:

Finally L is cured. Only AIDS is balance. That will be on Sunday 1430
Thillai is L I ' n Ethir marai. WOW

which Sunday?
July 23 or July 30
From: aanaa on Thu Jul 20 15:31:24 2006. [Full View]

sorry for the multiple post
From: nacdaman on Thu Jul 20 16:59:34 2006. [Full View]

i am still confused with thillai is li in ethirmarai. Ethirmarai means opposite right???? does thillai refer to the tree and what is LI ??? i am confused (it feels like vidiya vidiya ramayanam kettu seethaikku raaman chittappanna katha maadiri).

Thanks
From: mani_s on Thu Jul 20 22:41:44 2006. [Full View]

karthik_rcs wrote:

How many shiva names did we encounter...any list..

You started a list on page 22 and ts added to it. Not sure if anyone completed it.

p.s.: I could've cut & pasted the list here, but thought it is a lot more fun to go and reread the posts here. Here is a link: http://www.forumhub.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?p=168870
From: sreeramtcs on Fri Jul 21 1:26:12 2006. [Full View]

Can anybody explain me the logic behind the binary codes found in Nadi. I dint watch that episode but my friends after hearing that binary in nadi started making fun of CR. From this forum i came to know that Akash's grand father has written it. But how does he know binary? Was binary used during his generation? I am not sure if these questions have been answered in CR because i missed few episodes. Plz answer my questins.
From: karthik_rcs on Fri Jul 21 10:40:25 2006. [Full View]

aanaa wrote:

arunvani wrote:

Finally L is cured. Only AIDS is balance. That will be on Sunday 1430
Thillai is L I ' n Ethir marai. WOW

which Sunday?
July 23 or July 30

it is sunday 23 2:30PM

wow (23 ,2:3) repeating...

From: karthik_rcs on Fri Jul 21 10:43:29 2006.

sreeramtcs wrote:

Can anybody explain me the logic behind the binary codes found in Nadi. I dint watch that episode but my friends after hearing that binary in nadi started making fun of CR. From this forum i came to know that Akash's grand father has written it. But how does he know binary? Was binary used during his generation? I am not sure if these questions have been answered in CR because i missed few episodes. Plz answer my questins.

Hi, Previously when akash was translating the he converted the numbers to ascii value of character

Dont ask me whether the binary digits where upper case alphabets ascii range or..
i couldnt notice the numbers properly...

From: aanaa on Fri Jul 21 18:21:08 2006. [Full View]

NAGA!!

just a small curious

I know movies under go censor.
what about drama?
have to get license from censor too??
From: aanaa on Fri Jul 21 18:39:42 2006. [Full View]

sreeramtcs wrote:

Can anybody explain me the logic behind the binary codes found in Nadi. ...... Plz answer my questins.

please refer
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:18 pm Subject: Chidambara Rahasiyam - TV Serial - Updates and discussion.
http://forumhub.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?p=635295&highlight=#635295
From: karthik_rcs on Sun Jul 23 6:31:16 2006. [Full View]

Hello Friends,
Just watched the Last episode of CR. Ending is little shocky...
and
i am left with only question " WHO IS AGASTHIYAR in this serial" Somu should see in his jenman rite......
If anyone gets any clue reply back
From: pavalamani pragasam on Sun Jul 23 6:50:55 2006. [Full View]

Simply superb!
My eerie feeling was not wrong!
My comparison of the fatherly affection of YGee & KG proved right!
Arthi torturing Somu about Chaya...munjenma paavam..
A capsule size end episode, many loose ends, intriguing puzzles...but altogether an enjoyable, intelligent entertainment!
From: gmax2k5 on Sun Jul 23 16:16:06 2006. [Full View]

very true, a little disappointing episode to this great show. the little animated ending was a disappointment to this very realistic show with realistic acting. the medicine turning into gold after the moonlight shines on it was funny. the ending was eery as someone else said, especially the one when it says Vishnu was last seen at a Railway station, and they have a pic of him entering, and the chaya letter wasn't needed. So, waiting to hear from other CR fans, what they thought about the ending, and hopefully Naga can also explain the ending to me, about Vishnu's diappearance, and why the loose ends were not addressed. I felt the show started out great, and kept my attention for more than 1.5 yrs, but the last couple months, when it was found out that no one person was commiting all those murders, and it was just coincidences, that each murdered person had enemy. But, besides all these complaints, I thought this serial was great, great direction by Naga, great acting by the whole cast of Chidambara Ragasiyam, especially YG.Mahendran. And Naga, please let us know about your next venture soon.
From: aanaa on Sun Jul 23 16:18:10 2006. [Full View]

finally comes to end.
Naga pass thru another milestone.
doubt has been cleared by PS - pin kurippu -
as I mentioned earlier YG lost eyesight.
poor KG - Mohanram was also murdered.
From: sangeetha_me on Sun Jul 23 18:11:10 2006. [Full View]

hey..someone give us the updates soon..!!
From: ts on Sun Jul 23 18:39:36 2006. [Full View]

Akash tries to go into Somu's room to get the nadi and Abi stops him from doing so. Kamakshi tries to talk to Akash but he ignores. Abi asks whats wrong and he says that he doesnt care if she lives or dies. Abi asks him why he talks so and he asks her to put the question to Kamakshi. Kamakshi says that she is innocent but Akash tells them that it is because of her that his family had gone into shambles. He says that when he was a kid, his dad had come to meet Kamakshi. Kamakshi says that it was a courtesy visit. Akash says that she had sent a letter later saying that she would want to be his dad's wife in the next janmam. Abi asks him whats wrong with that. Akash says that his mum saw the letter and had left him after a quarrel about it and his dad became a drunkard after that. He says that his dad had an accident while being drunk and went into coma. He says that he got HIV at that time from Blood transfusion and was suffering from it. He says that he died a couple of years back and Kamakshi is to blame for everything. Granny listens to everything from outside and is shocked. She drops down in shock at the "rEzhi" (pathway).

Meanwhile, Thillai etal come back from the hospital and PD asks granny as to why she is sitting in the pathway. Akash realises that Granny had overheard everything and rushes outside. Granny is heart broken and asks Akash how could he hide it from her. She exclaims that it was her son....

KG is running like a headless chicken as the pen drive is lost and prabhu tells him that the police had taken the nadis from the locker. Mukilan says that it will take them time to prepare the medicine. He suggests they go to Thillai and get some medicine from him. Thulasi recites the verse and tells him that there is another ingredient that is missing. the "semmai" is something different and not just leaves. KG goes to thillai and falls in his feet. Akash and Somu call him a fraud but he doesnt mind. He says that heha d lost his pen drive and everything else is with the police. Akash moves away and hides the pendrive in his pocket. KG brings Thulasi to Thilai and tells him that he did all for her and begs for help. Thillai asks Somu to give him the nadi.

Somu brings his nadi but locks the door. He asks KG to do anything there and not to leave the house. Akash gives Somu the letter from Chaya and tells him that thisis why he was after him. They all start deliberating about the binary code and Somu laughs at it. Akash says that he has seen it in the cover as well. Meanwhile, the grocer calls for Abi and demands to be paid. Abi looks at the bill and asks him why he has charged Rs 11000 for the things. He says hit is just 1100 and not 11000. Abi says that he has put an extra zero. Grocer says that only the kodu matters and to ignore the zeroes. Somu realises what the maths beggar had told him. "ellaame kodu dhaan".. and something sparks in his mind. He grabs the Ascii chart and the binary code copied from KG and starts to look for something. He compares the letters in the songs from the Maruthuva Kandam in his nadi to the "1"'s in the binary, ignoring the zeroes. This gives them another line which says that the Thilai leave must be mixed along with the sap. Mukilan says that the leaves, when heated, will give out the sap and this has been taken care of. There is another line that Somu cannot decode. Thillai asks him to read it again and asks them to take him to the backyard. He confirms with somu that the moon is out and asks mukilan to prepare two stoves with 5 cowdung cakes (veratti) in each. He asks them to divide the blue medicine into equal parts and pout it into the pot on the cooker. He tells Somu that the line means blood from a relative and says this is the missing ingredient. He cuts his hand and drips the blood into the pot. KG cannot stand blood and he runs away in fear. When the moon comes out, the medicine flashes golden and turns into golden colour. Mukilan runs to KG and tells him the medicine is ready. Making sure that there is no blood, KG comes there and demands the medicine. Somu, and Akash try to take it away btu he pulls his gun and threatens them. Vishnu intervenes and tells him that the medicine is for Arthi and he doesnt know if it will work for Thulasi. He says that he fears its a poison again. KG points the gun at Mukilan and asks him to have the medicine. Vishnu tells KG that the medicine must be made using the relative's blood and the one they have is for Arthi. KG doesnt agree and he puts the gun at Vishnu. Thulasi gets irritated and she picks up the knife and threaten to cut herself. In the confusion, KG shoots Vishnu and injures him. Thulasi gets wild and cuts KG's throat and stabs him in the back. She then sits and shouts that he is a sadist... Blood from KG's neck flows into the second pot and this turns into the golden medicine. Akash realises what his granny said... that blood will flow when the nadi comes out.

PS:
Arthi has the medicine and develops anti HIV agents in her blood. She is cured totally. Thillai tells them that the predictions of the josiyar had come true...he cant see his daughter again.

Thulasi was cleared of murder 6 months later as she was not "sane" at the time of the "accident". She is cured by the medicine as well.

Akash did some research with the nadis and came to know that the city of Chennai will disapper and a few other things. He realises that publishing this will have no impact as the people dont believe in such things. Granny never spoke with him again. She died as predicted by Akash's GGdad after circling the temple as many times.

Abi found out Chaya's letter in the closet after a few years and couriered it to Somu. Arthi received it and asks somu who she was etc etc and quarreled about it. The message in the letter was "I shall let you know in the next birth". Somu tells her that the question that he had asked Chaya was if she believed in re-birth. Arthi doesnt agree and keeps quarelling. Somu now believes in re-birth.....

Chidambara Rahasiyam Muttrum.
From: bpbp on Sun Jul 23 20:28:55 2006. [Full View]

Thanks to TS & others for giving timely updates!...Even though I see this serial regularly, I also liked to read the updates...THANKS GUYS!
From: bpbp on Sun Jul 23 20:54:30 2006. [Full View]

I saw the last episode today....mmmm lots of loose ends, lots of questions still unanswered, unexpected naive scene of the moon light turning the blue jello + blood into a golden jello (resembling �athu mattum ragasiyam� magic scenes)...but still pretty interesting climax.

I was expecting to see a 1 hr show (1/2 hr episode and � hr farewell function) and hoping to see Naga�but bit disappointed that this rescheduling is only because that next week CR slot will be taken by Meena�s mega serial.

Questions:

1) when the thinnai josiyar and Akash were reading Somu�s naadi, didn�t they come to know that Somu is some sort of brother to Akash?? Am I wrong?

2) Somu is facing the same situation as Akash�s father (getting a letter and his wife suspecting him). Does it mean that Somu is the maru genmam of Akash�s father? But Akash father died at Akash�s age of 8�If and only if Somu is 8 yrs younger than Somu, it�s possible?

3) Where are all these loose samiyars? How did they predict all those things? (like ellame kodu than�etc, pretty confusing)

4) In the last episode, all the dumb characters turn into pretty intelligent...like YG, Somu etc. How?

4) Why Vishnu gets lost in the climax? Is it a link to the next story?

Finally doesn�t CR have disclaimer for any consequences for this serial? I mean, what if someone starts doing the same like the editor to get Aids medicine? At least they should have said �intha kathaiyil varum katha pathiramum nigazhvugalum karpanaiye�.��.anyways just my 2 cents.

Anyway, it�s the only serial I spent my time watching�.hats off to Naga�we are waiting for your next venture.

One small request:

Please do not make a thriller serial to go more than 1 year�2 years is too much�.Plan to give 2 serials, each one at every year�it would be really nice�
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From: karthik_rcs on Sun Jul 23 21:41:16 2006. [Full View]

Adding to the BP questions
1. While Josiyar was reading nadi to Akash, he said "Ippiraviyil ennai athavathu AGASTHIYARAI sandipan" (Somu will meet agasthiyar)
2. The Dumb beggar toohave written , ennodu serthu ini moovar kadaisiyil agasthiyan
Who is the agasthiyar ? The grocery shop man????

Naga Sir, We have come across in the serial 4 samiyars
1. Maths prof 2. Tea Samiyar 3. Dumb samiyar 4. One more person who gives stick (Rudra veenai BABA CHARACTER)

What was the intention of these characters? Are they kept to symbolize with real sidhars or rishis (vashistar, viswamithrar,agasthiyar)...

Appreciations
1. Thillai CR has Golden vilva leaves covered,similarly, the medicine was also finally got gold color
2. AIDS transmitted or detected in Blood sample, it was cured by the adding the blood as an ingredient (Relative blood)
3. One more thing to notice, the Dumb Beggar wrote to Akash
"A Cirlce of time
GF -> Father -> Son ->GrandSon - ?
Akash finally fits in there.....
4. Somu had done some pavam to a girl in his prev. jenman and it was mentioned he will marry that girl in this jenman..It was handled....
5. Somu revealing the final secret is amazing........
From: karthik_rcs on Sun Jul 23 21:44:53 2006. [Full View]

Hello TS,detective, bingle guy
Thanks for the updates
TS has done great job in updating full story makes us to imagine wht could have happened visually even when we missed it....

GREAT MAN.

TS - I dont know your full name..But wheneveri i see ur name
It reminds me of TEA SAMIYAR

TS - Tea Samiyar ( Tell me the truth,did u act in the serial)

(Just kidding, dont take serious... You are the one guiding and updating constantly, as the TSamiyar does for somu
From: mani_s on Sun Jul 23 22:48:04 2006. [Full View]

Thanks for the updates. Can one of the primary updaters create a blog with just these updates? It's fun rehashing the serial by reading the updates once again.

Thanks again!
From: Naaga on Mon Jul 24 1:07:24 2006. [Full View]

Its a double entry............I dunno how to delete this posting, though i could edit it...........ts, kindly do the needful.
From: Naaga on Mon Jul 24 1:11:20 2006. [Full View]

Hi everybody,

Thanx to all of you in this thread for giving me a new experience. I have interacted with my viewers directly even as the serial is being telecast and that is a great thing to happen to a director.

Now to address the questions..........but before then, a run-down on the way CR was completed.........

Originally CR was to end @ the 115th episode. But then suddenly I was asked to end it in 104, to make way for "Lakshmi"..........I had already shot and had material upto 106.......Negotiations were on with Sun for a one-hour extension on the weekend..........but was allotted this 1/2 hour........

Now, my apologies for certain shoddy execution of the last episode.......especially the grafx................it was done in a hurry..........(some technical mumbo-jumbo.........couldn't do a tracking on the shots and the effects were just done on 'combustion'....without much layering.)

Had to throw away a lot of stuff..........for instance...........do you know...........
1.Kamakshi and Panchu had studied together till the VIII standard........and they got married within six months of KG's death.....?
2.Archana never got married..........and went on to become a great dancer in a modern form..........
3.Somu never spoke to Natarajan again, though all others have forgiven him...........
4.Guru, the grocery man never came back from Thanjavur. Akash thinks that he is Agasthiyar........but the grocery shop owner thinks otherwise..........and claims that he is a fraud who had run away with some of his money.
From: mitra on Mon Jul 24 9:29:02 2006. [Full View]

Thank you Mr. Naga for giving us such a good thriller.

Though it had some abruptness and sudden big twists( I get that is due to finishing the serial earlier) I feel it is different from the usual mamiyar mattupen pirachanai and everyone crying and coming up with plans to pull others legs.

It was a really great pleasure for us to have you here among us while the serial was being telecasted. How many directors would do that ?

Keep giving us such brilliant thriller serials. All suspense serial would be good if its short n sweet. Though there isnt explanation for all the characters behaviour it is good. Fusion of some facts and fiction is good. "Origami" is brilliant, who ever gave that idea of mixing it with serial so that it would reach lot of people must be a genius.

Thanx TS and all others who took lots of pain to update the serial.

From: aanaa on Mon Jul 24 11:01:06 2006.

NAGA wrote:

Thanx to all of you in this thread for giving me a new experience.
Originally CR was to end @ the 115th episode. But then suddenly I was asked to end it in 104, to make way for "Lakshmi"..........I had already shot and had material upto 106
.......Negotiations were on with Sun for a one-hour extension on the weekend..........but was allotted this 1/2 hour.........

Thank you Naga

Its a great experience viewers also sharing our thouts with Director - on live.

We can understand your feelings -
-cutting down the show time
-cannot express the director's full view.

SUNTV has to learn more about humanity.

no monopoly

From: aanaa on Mon Jul 24 11:01:06 2006. [Full View]

ts wrote:

Chidambara Rahasiyam Muttrum.

thank you for th updateS so far u did
From: ts on Mon Jul 24 11:27:42 2006. [Full View]

Naaga wrote:

Its a double entry............I dunno how to delete this posting, though i could edit it...........ts, kindly do the needful.

- if you are asking about "double entry"...
I shall try and get it done - if you are asking about the blog

My pal says that i have always seen "busy" on Thursdays, specially in the mornings. I am sure i will miss it

Its been wonderful doing updates on this serial for over 2 years. Thanks to Detective, Bingleguy, jaiganes, goldkiddo and others who helped in bringing out the finer details of the serial (the "big" little things i missed most definitely).

Thanks to Naaga for keeping this thread interactive and lively.
Thanks to RR and co for the bandwidth and webspace.
From: sangeetha_me on Mon Jul 24 15:44:51 2006. [Full View]

whoa..great serial..great updates..wonderful..thanks for giving us such a good serial Naga..

What abt Akash and Abi? Do they get married too?

From: detective on Mon Jul 24 17:47:11 2006.

mitra wrote:

Though it had some abruptness and sudden big twists( I get that is due to finishing the serial earlier) I feel it is different from the usual mamiyar mattupen pirachanai and everyone crying and coming up with plans to pull others legs.

Exactly my thoughts.... All said and done, the serial did make us think. The very fact that we are upset about the abrupt end, shows that our expectations were high becaue the way the serial started. We want an answer to our questions because we think there should be a hidden meaning behind everything - again because of the way the serial started.

Naaga deserves a thank you first. Thank you, Naaga.

Thanks to TS for tirelessly updating the forum. Looks like everyone has forgotten pamrang, who correctly predicted 50% of the 'ragasiyam', YG becoming blind etc.... Special congrats to you pamrang - I dont know if you are still following the forum.

From: bpbp on Mon Jul 24 21:47:09 2006. [Full View]

It's pretty sad to see Naaga's post...stupid guys, I dont know why they took away the 1/2 hr slot which is the only slot where they did not telecast mega serial. <*******....****> Fill in the stars whatever you want to yell at these guys.

Naaga sir, as everyone have already said, though we had some disappointments, we are really going to miss CR. I always tell my friends that it's really appreciable that Naaga has done great research and groundwork for this serial...(Some of the concepts mentioned by him are really true, Thillai tree has some anti-hiv characteristics and it causes blindness if the milk falls in the eye...and much more....) Except Naaga, no other director strains a bit while directing...

THANKS NAAGA SIR!, we are expecting you to give us a new serial very soon!
From: mani_s on Tue Jul 25 7:01:19 2006. [Full View]

Naga,

Thanks for the wonderful serial. Great work!

Can you complete the script for the 116 episodes as originally planned and publish it here (or at a blog site) once a week, just the same way that TS & others did? If writing the scripts would take time, you can write the episode summaries.

Once again, great work and a big thank you!
From: mani_s on Tue Jul 25 7:06:38 2006. [Full View]

(Editing duplicate post ... gives me an opportunity to ramble more)

Naga,
Will you find some time to answer some of our questions? You can probably wait a few days - or may be a week - and consolidate the questions and then answer the ones you want to.

My impression is that in parting, you wanted to convey the following message about Nadis and siddha vaidhiyam:
sariya? or it was just another humourous postscript?

More questions:
Next time, will you also plan on your own forum? something along the lines of
The Apprentice (be sure to see the weekly summaries).
Did you change anything in the serial based on the input here?
Like someone mentioned earlier, you were certain bold forays (incest / gay) in this serial. Did you ever hesitate?
Most important: Will there be a DVD released for CR?
From: Night fire 007 on Tue Jul 25 10:29:52 2006. [Full View]

Dear Naga,

It was really a very good work...i was not interested in the forums until i came across this CR forum from my sis.

Keep the good work and give us a clue when/ what is ur new serial all about and when...
From: Night fire 007 on Tue Jul 25 10:42:11 2006. [Full View]

Dear Naga,

It was really a very good work...i was not interested in the forums until i came across this CR forum from my sis.

Keep the good work and give us a clue when/ what is ur new serial all about and when...
From: laddu on Tue Jul 25 10:52:56 2006. [Full View]

Hello Naga,
What a wonderful job on this serial. Cheers!

But I have to say this to you -- why did you kill God? All the time he wanted to see his daughter get well, the poor guy got killed by his own daughter and she got well but the father who went through so much couldn't see her --- one major disappointment...may be you could have just let him live..

I had something to look forward to a thriller in Tamil every wednesday and now I'll wait for you next assignment...expectations are more...I'm sure you know that already.

Congrats on great work well done and good luck on your next one.

Sincerely,
From: laddu on Tue Jul 25 11:32:11 2006. [Full View]

Hello Naga,
What a wonderful job on this serial. Cheers!

But I have to say this to you -- why did you kill God? All the time he wanted to see his daughter get well, the poor guy got killed by his own daughter and she got well but the father who went through so much couldn't see her --- one major disappointment...may be you could have just let him live..

I had something to look forward to a thriller in Tamil every wednesday and now I'll wait for you next assignment...expectations are more...I'm sure you know that already.

Congrats on great work well done and good luck on your next one.

Sincerely,
From: aanaa on Tue Jul 25 12:54:27 2006. [Full View]

thank you for the great episode
From: aanaa on Tue Jul 25 12:54:48 2006. [Full View]

server down - sorry for multiple postings
From: aanaa on Tue Jul 25 12:56:11 2006. [Full View]

may be server down duplicated entries
From: aanaa on Tue Jul 25 12:58:41 2006. [Full View]

karthik_rcs wrote:

Hello Friends,
" WHO IS AGASTHIYAR in this serial" Somu should see in his jenman

agasthiar - Great saint
From: aanaa on Tue Jul 25 13:01:53 2006. [Full View]

sorry
server down
so many posting

its only for me???
anyone else experiencing the same?

From: detective on Tue Jul 25 13:38:29 2006.

mani_s wrote:

Can you complete the script for the 116 episodes as originally planned and publish it here (or at a blog site) once a week, just the same way that TS & others did? If writing the scripts would take time, you can write the episode summaries

Naaga..... I will wait for an answer to this question before posting my questions to you.

You didn't think I was done. Did you???

Wink

From: gaya3 on Tue Jul 25 14:36:25 2006. [Full View]

Hats off to you Naga for the wonderful serial. I dont know any other director would go and research this much. And your screenplay is so good. Keep up the good work. Let us know your next venture. Also please let us know whether there will be a DVD version of CR and your other serials. All the best, regards, gayatri.
From: ssanjinika on Tue Jul 25 14:53:19 2006. [Full View]

Naga,I just have one question for you.
Was this how the serial was going to end before the sudden change in schedule?I dont mean the death of KumaraGuru or Thillai becoming blind,I meant the details like Akash's dad's story,the relative's blood etc etc.If you dont mind me saying ,I found that portion to slightly witchy .Did not expect it from an amazing mind like yours. Anyways kudos to a great serial.Would love to see something else of yours in the near future.

From: Naaga on Tue Jul 25 15:30:27 2006.

detective wrote:

You didn't think I was done. Did you??? Wink

Wink

Very Happy

Very Happy

Very Happy

detective, i knew that you had been watching all along........and somehow, i was expecting a posting from you as soon as the serial got over........n there you are (Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:47 pm)...........

mani_s wrote:

Can you complete the script for the 116 episodes as originally planned and publish it here (or at a blog site) once a week, just the same way that TS & others did? If writing the scripts would take time, you can write the episode summaries

That's a good idea..............but i really dont know about my schedule........nevertheless i will try...........!

mani_s wrote:

The reading of the Nadis is heavily subject to interpretation and even skilled readers (like PD) can derive incorrect conclusions. Another example is the case of Akash's findings mentioned in the post scripts - inaccurate readings by even the well meaning.

Not exactly, mani. Check whether it makes sense if i rephrase it.........."The reading of the Nadis is heavily subject to interpretation and even a not so skilled reader (like Ponnambalam's B-i-l) can derive some sort of a conclusion that makes sense to the seeker of naadi......."

(An aside) There is an interesting incident that happened to my father..........he was prescribed a parigaram..........."go to thiruvarur temple, do an abishekam, as you come out you will have a garuda-darisanam.......then the parigaram is completed".............He did all that........and lo! as he came out of the temple, there is a garudan waiting to give Darisanam!!!!!!!!!!

Sounds too mystical..........?????????

Well, i thought so too till i visited thiruvarur for Rudraveenai shooting. The town is infested with garudan (the fishing eagle).......if he had looked up, as soon as he landed in thiruvarur, his parigaram might have got completed at the bus-station itself without the abishekam et-al.........

From: Naaga on Tue Jul 25 16:17:03 2006. [Full View]

I think this may be of some interest to you all...........
The song which had the ragasiyam...........

" vithiyil valaiyum vayirudan vanthE
vakuththoru yukthi vyAdhiyum muRRa
midhakallenavum makothiramum kAN
madiyumudivinil mAnagalagaluvanE
thiRakka vidaiyithai panaiyathaneNthAn
vekuyirupaththil dhiyAnam mEvininai......."

And the associated code.............

01010100 01001000
01001001 01001100
01001100 01000001
01001001 01010100
01001000 01000001
01010010 01010101

Incidentally sreeramtcs, i have heard that (if not the binary system as applied in the modern day computers) writing the numerals in base five, base two etc., was known even to Baskara when he wrote �Leelavati�...

[Congrats to one and all for the century!]
From: sunmaster on Tue Jul 25 18:30:28 2006. [Full View]

Vow Mr. Naga. Hats off to you.

It'd have taken quiet an effort to get a song which means something in the same lines and to get a meaningful info out of it in this manner. But again, for a person who could dream of such a concept and keep it interesting for so long a period, its no big deal.

The perfect complement to him to make at least this form to go till 115 episodes (pages) and not stop by 104 episodes (pages)
From: sunmaster on Tue Jul 25 19:32:19 2006. [Full View]

Here is one more complement in his style

Chithachidamba ramuraingavaci
yamamnitham biravagananaga
arivadanirku karavoligalam

and the binary code is

1010011 1010101
1010000 1000101
1010010 1000010

there is an ith in the first word which i cant remove in english version. Please convert to tamil while reading.
From: karthik_rcs on Tue Jul 25 21:17:08 2006. [Full View]

aanaa wrote:

karthik_rcs wrote:

Hello Friends,
" WHO IS AGASTHIYAR in this serial" Somu should see in his jenman

agasthiar - Great saint

aana, I know who is agasthiyar, great saint wrote things about medicine and nadi
BUT in this serial dumb beggar quotes, ennodu serthu ini moovar
at last agasthiyan...so i was asking who is portrayed as agasthiyar in this CR

From: karthik_rcs on Tue Jul 25 21:26:26 2006.

Naaga wrote:

I think this may be of some interest to you all...........
The song which had the ragasiyam...........

" vithiyil valaiyum vayirudan vanthE
vakuththoru yukthi vyAdhiyum muRRa
midhakallenavum makothiramum kAN
madiyumudivinil mAnagalagaluvanE
thiRakka vidaiyithai panaiyathaneNthAn
vekuyirupaththil dhiyAnam mEvininai......."

And the associated code.............

01010100 01001000
01001001 01001100
01001100 01000001
01001001 01010100
01001000 01000001
01010010 01010101

Incidentally sreeramtcs, i have heard that (if not the binary system as applied in the modern day computers) writing the numerals in base five, base two etc., was known even to Baskara when he wrote �Leelavati�...

[Congrats to one and all for the century!]

Amazing, The same code if decoded as binary give thillai tharu..
Naga sir, which you designed first....Whether the code or the Song.

I have heard in your interview in SUryan FM, that you only wrote the nadi songs in CR

From: karthik_rcs on Tue Jul 25 21:27:13 2006. [Full View]

Hello friends,
can any body post the maruthuva kandam song of arthi ...

VINAI THODANGA,...
From: bpbp on Tue Jul 25 22:11:03 2006. [Full View]

We have hit 100 pages...wowwwwwwwwwwwww....

guys, it's pretty sad to see this LAKSHMI mega serial has taken our favorite CR background music....this is very bad. I cant hear that music in a dumb serial...oh nooooooooooooooooo....
From: pavalamani pragasam on Tue Jul 25 22:33:36 2006. [Full View]

And such a run of the mill too! Woe to those glued to TV seeing such stuff!
From: pavalamani pragasam on Tue Jul 25 22:41:41 2006. [Full View]

naaga's narration about his father's parikaram has happily removed a nagging doubt in my mind about naaga stand on blind beliefs!
From: AJ on Wed Jul 26 1:12:46 2006. [Full View]

Mr. Naga,
Kudos to you on the completion of Chidambara Ragasiyam. It's kind of a bittersweet feeling...we all were eagerly waiting to see what happens in the end, and now that it is finally over, we feel a little sad, especially because of the time crunch you faced..
Nevertheless, hats off to you Naga sir...this is one serial which will remain in our memories for a long time I'm sure.
Your impeccable research, superb direction and your dedication, needless to say, your active interest in the viewers' feedback and your participation in this forum are just a few of your good attributes as a great mind.
I would also like to apologize for my negative remarks along the way...only shows my high expectations in your direction...you certainly didn't disappoint us sir!
I have diligently watched each and every episode of CR...only to have missed the final episode . I was out of town and was not aware of the last minute change in the time and date.
Oh well, TS's updates have been as good as watching the serial live, so, no regrets!
As requested by others, we certainly would love to know from you about the remaining episodes which did not air.
Looking forward to more such greats from you and many more discussions and updates.
Thanks to everyone in the forum for making this such a wonderful experience for me.
From: AJ on Wed Jul 26 1:14:14 2006. [Full View]

Mr. Naga,
Kudos to you on the completion of Chidambara Ragasiyam. It's kind of a bittersweet feeling...we all were eagerly waiting to see what happens in the end, and now that it is finally over, we feel a little sad, especially because of the time crunch you faced..
Nevertheless, hats off to you Naga sir...this is one serial which will remain in our memories for a long time I'm sure.
Your impeccable research, superb direction and your dedication, needless to say, your active interest in the viewers' feedback and your participation in this forum are just a few of your good attributes as a great mind.
I would also like to apologize for my negative remarks along the way...only shows my high expectations in your direction...you certainly didn't disappoint us sir!
I have diligently watched each and every episode of CR...only to have missed the final episode . I was out of town and was not aware of the last minute change in the time and date.
Oh well, TS's updates have been as good as watching the serial live, so, no regrets!
As requested by others, we certainly would love to know from you about the remaining episodes which did not air.
Looking forward to more such greats from you and many more discussions and updates.
Thanks to everyone in the forum for making this such a wonderful experience for me.
From: ts on Wed Jul 26 8:07:21 2006. [Full View]

Wow 100  Cant believe it�

Naaga, nice to read about the �garudan� story.

Legend has it that the Tyagaraja (Somaskanda) image at Tiruvarur was created and worshipped by Maha Vishnu. Lord Vishnu is believed to be lying in yoga and Siva is supposed to be dancing over his chest. This might explain why the �garudans� are here 

Now we know where you got the inspiration to shoot the scenes for Akash�s pariharam   (the Tiger that asks him for a banana).

Also,

Cutting Short total episodes from 115 to 106 and then 105 - Must be vested interest on part of Pearlmedia... i checked "Lakshmi" last night and surprise surprise.... its marketed by Pearl.....
From: bingleguy on Wed Jul 26 8:20:20 2006. [Full View]

Naga sir

Naga Neram ellarum rasitha, rasikkum, rasikka pogum neram eppozhudhum ...

I missed to take the photo of the ppl who were sitting to watch CR final part wont believe me ..... 32 ppl in the hall watching the final episode of CR infact there was a function goin behind that day .....

Naga sir, You did it You really did it ! I happenned to see only the last 15 mins

innikki dhaan oorilendhu vandhen

Thanks TS for all ur updates ! We are really missing your updates ! for your efforts ... am yet to PM u !

Naga Sir .... nirayaa pesanum sir ... but will update sooooon
From: bingleguy on Wed Jul 26 8:24:02 2006. [Full View]

Naga sir

Naga Neram ellarum rasitha, rasikkum, rasikka pogum neram eppozhudhum ...

I missed to take the photo of the ppl who were sitting to watch CR final part wont believe me ..... 32 ppl in the hall watching the final episode of CR infact there was a function goin behind that day .....

Naga sir, You did it You really did it ! I happenned to see only the last 15 mins

innikki dhaan oorilendhu vandhen

Thanks TS for all ur updates ! We are really missing your updates ! for your efforts ... am yet to PM u !

Naga Sir .... nirayaa pesanum sir ... but will update sooooon
From: crazy on Wed Jul 26 9:12:08 2006. [Full View]

aanaa wrote:

ts wrote:

Chidambara Rahasiyam Muttrum.

thank you for th updateS so far u did

NANDRI
From: nacdaman on Wed Jul 26 16:47:59 2006. [Full View]

Thanks Mr.Naaga for letting us know about what really happened with the final episode and why it was cut short.

After watching the final episode , i didn't have the "WOW" javascript:emoticon('')
OMGreaction that i had after Vidadhu Karuppu's final episode. Maybe because Vidathu Karuppu had set extremely high expectations. I would consider it one of the all time great endings (probably on par with Sixth Sense).

Or Maybe it all unfolded in a much rapid way.

But i sincerely thank you for keeping us entertained for the last 2 years with CR.

And fans of Naaga - do we keep this forum opened or do we get into another forum and discuss naaga's next work ???

Thanks
From: aanaa on Wed Jul 26 18:51:05 2006. [Full View]

Naaga wrote:

I think this may be of some interest to you all...........

[Congrats to one and all for the century!]

once again THANK YOU NAGA
From: bingleguy on Thu Jul 27 1:28:09 2006. [Full View]

Let us keep this thread as a dedication for CR !

Already we ve crossed 100 pages ... and let this thread be a sole thread for CR ... Lets open a new thread for Naga's New works ....

Am planning to open the same under the title "Naga's Neram" ... now that some ppl have started asking on the same i feel we can do that together ........

Naga sir . the thread is gonna be Naga's Neram and hubbers candiscuss about everything related to you ! the quest they wish to ask, infos u would like to share with all ... n many more things ......

From: bpbp on Thu Jul 27 1:32:35 2006.

bingleguy wrote:

Let us keep this thread as a dedication for CR !

Already we ve crossed 100 pages ... and let this thread be a sole thread for CR ... Lets open a new thread for Naga's New works ....

Am planning to open the same under the title "Naga's Neram" ... now that some ppl have started asking on the same Smile

Smile

i feel we can do that together ........

Naga sir . the thread is gonna be Naga's Neram and hubbers candiscuss about everything related to you ! the quest they wish to ask, infos u would like to share with all ... n many more things ......

sounds like a great idea! I am in!

From: bingleguy on Thu Jul 27 2:53:19 2006. [Full View]

Thanks a TON bpbp ... I am hoping that the thread would definitely pave way as a platform for the ardent fans of Naga to meet him and share common things

We can even discuss and shoot questions to him on varied subjects and that can be a single point of entry even for Naga sir to answer our questions at one shot
From: ts on Thu Jul 27 5:33:12 2006. [Full View]

Nothing to Update Today .....Dry Thursday morning after a very long time
.. well may be not that dry afterall ... KG was reborn as someone else in "peN" and was seen alive and kicking
From: bingleguy on Thu Jul 27 6:26:50 2006. [Full View]

Missing Naga Time in SUN TV yest night

TS
From: bingleguy on Thu Jul 27 7:02:23 2006. [Full View]

Think this is the only thread here which has crossed 100 pages

Kudos to Naga for keeping things alive in us
Kudos to contributors who have been keeping the spirits alive in many ppl

I wish to thank TS for this thread and also his updates

Wish to thank all the others who have been actively contributing on CR .... All the more the credits goes to Naga sir, who has been keeping us in the tip of our chairs to solve his mystery !
From: laddu on Thu Jul 27 14:24:19 2006. [Full View]

HI CR team nothing to update today huh? bad...Naaga sir...start an other one soon ok? such nice people participated in this topic.
Ayyo...ennathey solluradu?
From: gmax2k5 on Thu Jul 27 17:38:52 2006. [Full View]

Hi guys, going to upload the last episode of CR on megaupload, anyone needs the link, please reply.
From: AJ on Thu Jul 27 19:45:19 2006. [Full View]

gmax2k5 wrote:

Hi guys, going to upload the last episode of CR on megaupload, anyone needs the link, please reply.

I missed watching the last episode. I would appreciate it if you could post the link.

Thanks.
From: bingleguy on Thu Jul 27 23:23:35 2006. [Full View]

Ardent fans of Naga !

Do u wanna talk to Naga ?
Do u wanna shoot questions to him?
Do u wanna know his future projects?

All these can be done .... when u start interacting with Naga sir ! Just click my Signature link that takes u to a thread[color=red]EXCLUSIVE for Naga ! [/color]

Come, take a coffee break with Naga !
From: goldkiddo on Fri Jul 28 3:15:16 2006. [Full View]

Great Show Mr. Naaga!
Too bad you had to wind up so fast. But I guess that cant be helped.

Like mani_s requested, hope you give us more details of what you had in mind for the remainder of the episodes.

Thanks to TS and all the others for the timely updates. Even though I missed only a few episodes, I still read all the updates. There were minute details that I missed out which observant viewers mentioned. kudos to them !

By force of habit I sat down in front of the tv at 8.30 wednesday, and there was meena distributing sweets.
From: ts on Fri Jul 28 5:40:42 2006. [Full View]

gmax2k5 wrote:

Hi guys, going to upload the last episode of CR on megaupload, anyone needs the link, please reply.

Hi Please post here or PM me. Also please let us know if you have the episode where the AC dies. I missed that one.
From: ssanjinika on Fri Jul 28 11:21:36 2006. [Full View]

gmax2k5 wrote:

Hi guys, going to upload the last episode of CR on megaupload, anyone needs the link, please reply.

Would love to have the episode.Havent watched it.

Thanks!
From: gmax2k5 on Fri Jul 28 15:36:44 2006. [Full View]

hi guys, sorry i couldn't individually pm or email the link to everyone, i will post it here, and you guys can download. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JA2DYG0D
From: sangeetha_me on Sat Jul 29 16:14:38 2006. [Full View]

guys..its not working for me..when i open it in Windows Media player..it says "Error downloading codec". what do i do?
From: aanaa on Sat Jul 29 16:52:19 2006. [Full View]

sangeetha_me wrote:

guys..its not working for me..when i open it in Windows Media player..it says "Error downloading codec". what do i do?

I did watch last Sunday
sine u told its not working
I downloaded and tried
working charm

From: mirunmanish on Sun Jul 30 6:08:21 2006.

Night fire 007 wrote:

Dear Naga,

It was really a very good work...i was not interested in the forums until i came across this CR forum from my sis.

Keep the good work and give us a clue when/ what is ur new serial all about and when...

From: rshan on Mon Jul 31 2:23:13 2006. [Full View]

Thank you Naga Sir for such a wonderful serial. I only wish you had the freedom to finish it the way you had planned. Nevertheless, it is not just the end, it is the entire journey that was thrilling. Looking forward to your next creation.
From: bingleguy on Mon Jul 31 2:52:15 2006. [Full View]

Ardent fans of Naga !

Start interacting with Naga sir ! Just click my Signature link that takes u to a threadEXCLUSIVE for Naga !

Talk to the MAN himself !
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sorry for posting this info
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From: aanaa on Mon Jul 31 9:25:06 2006. [Full View]

Can u read in Tamil the above notes
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1. http://www.murasu.com/
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From: Night fire 007 on Mon Jul 31 10:16:10 2006. [Full View]

CR was a very good serial till date i have wathed. I was spell bound by the picturization and the twists and turns it had in it throughout...

Special thanks to TS, Dedective and all others for posting due updates and keeping the thread lively and more importantly alive for all the two years...

NAGA needs to be really appreciated for his wonderful efforts in bringing out such a serial to Chinna Thirai...

Ithai padamaa maartha ethaavadhu plan irukka Naga Sir???!!!

I dont know whether NAGA will read this post but would appreciate and anticipate a reply...
From: Night fire 007 on Mon Jul 31 10:25:42 2006. [Full View]

Dear Naga Sir,

U appreciated one of our hubber's idea of you posting the further episodes as per the actual plan of yours; in this forum and did accepted the same(of course, I do remember u speaking about ur availability )...

It will really give us a very good feeling who have been following up the thread for quite a long time sitting on the different corners of the world...

To have the directorial touch to the excellent creation which has been an entertainer for more than 2 years till few days ago for the thousands of NRI's like me ()....

I dont know whether others CR hubbers will also join hands with me in taking up this request to our beloved Mr. Naga...
From: Night fire 007 on Mon Jul 31 10:26:23 2006. [Full View]

Dear Naga Sir,

U appreciated one of our hummber's idea of you posting the further episodes as per the actual plan of yours; in this forum and did accepted the same(of course, I do remember u speaking about ur availability )...

It will really give us a very good feeling who have been following up the thread for quite a long time sitting on the different corners of the world...

To have the directorial touch to the excellent creation which has been an entertainer for more than 2 years till few days ago for the thousands of NRI's like me ()....

I dont know whether others CR hubbers will also join hands with me in taking up this request to our beloved Mr. Naga...
From: aanaa on Mon Jul 31 13:45:35 2006. [Full View]

started new thread on thillai -
i do C & P only ( copy * paste)
do not want to change the thread here
From: nandhunaren on Mon Jul 31 15:40:32 2006. [Full View]

I was not involved in this thread as much as I would have liked to be and hats off to everyone that kept the updates coming and above all to mr. naaga who answered our questions and gave us "clues" once in a while.

Just wanted to say I have every single epsiode of Marma desam (ragasiyamai oru ragasiyam - kaalabairavar story) and CR on my hard drive. If anyone is interested, i will write them ona disc and send em. (well, i guess i would need a few DVD+R s and a postage paid envelope).
From: detective on Mon Jul 31 16:58:21 2006. [Full View]

nandhunaren wrote:

I have every single epsiode of Marma desam (ragasiyamai oru ragasiyam - kaalabairavar story)

Is this the one telecast in 1996-97?? The story about a mystery inside a temple that Ramji (kaadhal koattai 'veLLarikkaa' fame) tries to unravel?? If it is, I will be interested. I lost access to SunTV midway thru that serial.
From: ssanjinika on Mon Jul 31 21:37:45 2006. [Full View]

gmax2k5 wrote:

hi guys, sorry i couldn't individually pm or email the link to everyone, i will post it here, and you guys can download. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JA2DYG0D

hi gmax,I downloaded the file from megaupload but cant seem to view it.Looks like Win media player is looking for some codec file and is unable to find it.I can hear the audio though.Any thoughts on how to view the file?

From: bpbp on Mon Jul 31 21:57:33 2006.

ssanjinika wrote:

hi gmax,I downloaded the file from megaupload but cant seem to view it.Looks like Win media player is looking for some codec file and is unable to find it.I can hear the audio though.Any thoughts on how to view the file?

Use VLC media player..it plays everything

From: bingleguy on Mon Jul 31 23:17:35 2006. [Full View]

Night fire 007 wrote:

Ithai padamaa maartha ethaavadhu plan irukka Naga Sir???!!!

I dont know whether NAGA will read this post but would appreciate and anticipate a reply...

Am not sure if he has the idea of making this a movie .... but could anticipate his interest in releasing all the 116 episodes which he had planned .... in writing !

Naga will surely read every post in this thread ....
From: nandhunaren on Tue Aug 1 1:44:49 2006. [Full View]

in answer to your question detective, yes thats the one. the very first venture of mr. naga. let me know guys..

From: bpbp on Tue Aug 1 4:38:21 2006.

nandhunaren wrote:

I was not involved in this thread as much as I would have liked to be and hats off to everyone that kept the updates coming and above all to mr. naaga who answered our questions and gave us "clues" once in a while.

Just wanted to say I have every single epsiode of Marma desam (ragasiyamai oru ragasiyam - kaalabairavar story) and CR on my hard drive. If anyone is interested, i will write them ona disc and send em. (well, i guess i would need a few DVD+R s and a postage paid envelope).

Lets see what Naaga thinks about this as this might involve copyrights and all...

I am not saying it's wrong but still may violate some copyrights, especially when Naaga is with us...

Even I like to get a copy of marma desam

Rolling Eyes

From: ts on Tue Aug 1 4:40:45 2006. [Full View]

nandhunaren wrote:

in answer to your question detective, yes thats the one. the very first venture of mr. naga. let me know guys..

Please check your pm. .

Regards
TS

From: nandhunaren on Tue Aug 1 11:01:38 2006.

bpbp wrote:

Lets see what Naaga thinks about this as this might involve copyrights and all...

I am not saying it's wrong but still may violate some copyrights, especially when Naaga is with us...

Even I like to get a copy of marma desam Rolling Eyes

Rolling Eyes

You know i feel stupid now that I didn't think about this. But yeah, if mr. naaga doesn't approve of this, i am definitely not going to do it. I dont' think marma desam will be coming out anytime soon on DVDs and also since I live in the US, we don't need to be worried about copyrights right?

From: bpbp on Tue Aug 1 12:12:40 2006.

nandhunaren wrote:

bpbp wrote:

Lets see what Naaga thinks about this as this might involve copyrights and all...

I am not saying it's wrong but still may violate some copyrights, especially when Naaga is with us...

Even I like to get a copy of marma desam Rolling Eyes

Rolling Eyes

You know i feel stupid now that I didn't think about this. But yeah, if mr. naaga doesn't approve of this, i am definitely not going to do it. I dont' think marma desam will be coming out anytime soon on DVDs and also since I live in the US, we don't need to be worried about copyrights right?

I am also in US

Very Happy

If everything is ok, me too like a copy of marma desam

Razz

From: AJ on Tue Aug 1 22:35:26 2006.

ssanjinika wrote:

gmax2k5 wrote:

hi guys, sorry i couldn't individually pm or email the link to everyone, i will post it here, and you guys can download. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JA2DYG0D

hi gmax,I downloaded the file from megaupload but cant seem to view it.Looks like Win media player is looking for some codec file and is unable to find it.I can hear the audio though.Any thoughts on how to view the file?

I am not able to view the video either...the audio portion of it is fine. Any thoughts on how/what to download to view this video clip?

From: bpbp on Wed Aug 2 2:24:36 2006.

ssanjinika wrote:

gmax2k5 wrote:

hi guys, sorry i couldn't individually pm or email the link to everyone, i will post it here, and you guys can download. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JA2DYG0D

hi gmax,I downloaded the file from megaupload but cant seem to view it.Looks like Win media player is looking for some codec file and is unable to find it.I can hear the audio though.Any thoughts on how to view the file?

I am not able to view the video either...the audio portion of it is fine. Any thoughts on how/what to download to view this video clip?

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

From: ssanjinika on Wed Aug 2 9:54:53 2006. [Full View]

I downloaded the divx player. .avi files belong to divx and this player plays all .avi files.
From: sangeetha_me on Wed Aug 2 16:18:02 2006. [Full View]

hey..i downloaded the VLC media player and watched the episode...great episode !

Folks..me too in US..and I would like a copy of Marma desam too !
From: bingleguy on Wed Aug 2 23:49:42 2006. [Full View]

i will not be able to download anything coz i dont have access to megaupload
From: breakfree on Thu Aug 3 8:50:55 2006. [Full View]

hi again .. i really bad that i hadnot been part such a cool n interesting group.. frankly i dint know that such a thing existed.. anyway i found wen i csualy searched in google...

chidambara ragasiyam was a gr8 serial which kept me n my frens enthralled.. throuout..but it was sad it had to end ..

congrats naga sir... i think u should release it a book.. and a book on the making of CR could also be released...

i hav been 2 vaitheeswaran kovil...where they see nadi jyothidam....and these days one can see a lot of nadiastrology places allover T.N like avinasi trichy..near salem.... but im not sure they r that real ..i feel they try to get as much info they can from us...then they manipulate..their future predic arent quite accurate...

any thoughts on this guys???

From: detective on Thu Aug 3 15:40:07 2006.

Naaga wrote:

mani_s wrote:

Can you complete the script for the 116 episodes as originally planned and publish it here (or at a blog site) once a week, just the same way that TS & others did? If writing the scripts would take time, you can write the episode summaries

That's a good idea..............but i really dont know about my schedule........nevertheless i will try...........!

Naaga, I assume you do not have time to provide these episode summaries. But will you be kind enough to answer some of my questions about the story????

1. Why was Thulasi shocked when she saw tea saamiyaar (and that other dumb beggar)? Her expression was as if she saw a dead man come alive.

2. When asked why Akash needs the suvadi, he said he will say later. Why was he so much interested in the suvadi? Earlier, he voluntarily wanted to give it to Somu. What changed in between for him to go to the extent of stealing it from Somu?

3. What was the need to prolong this suspense about the envelope from Chaya? It had nothing in it. Was it changed from something interesting to this squib because of the serial's abrupt end?

4. When Dr.Mangai talks to Dr.Thillai with her cellphone on, 'periyavar' hears that from the other side. The silhoutte of 'periyavar' was not that of KG. Who is this 'periyavar'? Why did you show some other person's silhoutte?

5. Kamakshi makes a gesture towards Akash to not reveal something. What was that??

6. Is there a hidden meaning to the origami shapes Thulasi makes?

7. What did u mean to say by showing tea saamiyaar and the dumb beggar pretending to 'hop' on telephone lines?

8. Who is tea saamiyaar? Who is the dumb beggar? They seem to know a lot of stuff that normal people do not know. Why can't they say that explicitly in as many words instead of writing cryptic messages like 'thillai enbadhu LI-yin edhirmarai' etc...

9. I am returning your question to you - What is the actual elapsed time from Episode 1 to the end?

P.S. I am asking these questions because I assume you would have answered them had the serial been 115 episodes long. Cutting it short by 10 episodes may not have given you the luxury to answer them in the serial. But you can do that here...

From: pavalamani pragasam on Thu Aug 3 22:38:18 2006. [Full View]

detective! Very, very pertinent questions, small, nagging doubts that easily slipped out of memory while engrossed in the main flood of action, questions which couldn't have been put more coherently , questions which we shall hopefully expect naaga to answer one by one!

From: Naaga on Thu Aug 3 22:56:23 2006.

detective wrote:

8. Who is tea saamiyaar? Who is the dumb beggar? They seem to know a lot of stuff that normal people do not know. Why can't they say that explicitly in as many words instead of writing cryptic messages like 'thillai enbadhu LI-yin edhirmarai' etc...

If I answer to this one some of the other questions may get answered�.
I have always wondered��.. if the Siddhars and the Saptharishis and all those Sanjivis of our myths, legends and folklores are real and still alive, where are they?

Will they roam the country or will they be put up somewhere?��(incidentally Korakkar and Bhogar have written about it��two different versions each)
Will they be donning the saffron, as we are conditioned to expect by our tradition of visual media��.?

Most important....will they be occupied with something or just lead a mundane life without any excitement.......as death is not forthcoming?

I have used this concept of....... the 18 siddhars roaming the forest in �Edhuvum Nadakkum��doing exciting things (atleast for themselves).....they wear various outfits as the situation demands��..the title sequence echoed this and showed them in various uniforms.
In CR��..i have used the same concept for the Saptharishis��..but here I have mixed up the sexes too��there is a woman among the seven��..

But again......they can be taken to be a bunch of ordinary beggars and a grocery man.

Wink

detective wrote:

4. When Dr.Mangai talks to Dr.Thillai with her cellphone on, 'periyavar' hears that from the other side. The silhoutte of 'periyavar' was not that of KG. Who is this 'periyavar'? Why did you show some other person's silhoutte?

A slip in clarity��.Periyavar is Kandan��It is Kandan in silhouette��.Just a ploy to confuse��.but KG is never mentioned as Periyavar anywhere��

P.S. Ill answer the rest of the questions in my subsequent posts.

From: bingleguy on Thu Aug 3 23:08:57 2006. [Full View]

Naaga wrote:

But again......they can be taken to be a bunch of ordinary beggars and a grocery man.
From: DerAristotle on Thu Aug 3 23:28:16 2006. [Full View]

Hey folks:

Long time reader, first time poster. I found another website (Tamil Torrents) that allows CR download.

http://www.tamiltorrents.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=-1&f=23

They seem to have the latter half of the serial at least. Enjoy!

Also, kudos to Naaga for a very well-made serial. Also, nice of him to participate actively in the forum, even as the serial was progressing.

Finally, a quick question for Naaga: How did Sun TV react to this serial's TRP ratings, espl. against against competing Tamil networks during the 8:30pm Wed slot. I hope that at least the large metros had excellent ratings. Would be curious to know Naaga's answer to this one.

I can vouch that the North American ratings hit the roof on Wed nights at 8:30pm! Very Happy Smile
From: mani_s on Fri Aug 4 3:25:16 2006. [Full View]

Excellent questions, detective. I always wanted to know more on Tulasi's strange afflictions (apoplexy or AIDS?) I guess you wanted to avoid even hints of sarcasm...

On a serious note, Naga has done some excellent research on the Thillai tree. This link lists several attributes of the Thillai tree that we all know of now...and interestingly, mentions the several medicinal properties - leprosy, cancer, HIV ...!

Hope this post shows up once - not any more, not any less.

From: detective on Fri Aug 4 11:57:06 2006.

Naaga wrote:

detective wrote:

8. Who is tea saamiyaar? Who is the dumb beggar? They seem to know a lot of stuff that normal people do not know. Why can't they say that explicitly in as many words instead of writing cryptic messages like 'thillai enbadhu LI-yin edhirmarai' etc...

If I answer to this one some of the other questions may get answered�.

Actually, they don't. The only other Q it answers is Q7 - the telephone hopping. Maybe they were playing a prank there. I am not able to extrapolate this to other questions. Sorry....

From: Naaga on Fri Aug 4 14:13:12 2006.

detective wrote:

Naaga wrote:

detective wrote:

8. Who is tea saamiyaar? Who is the dumb beggar? They seem to know a lot of stuff that normal people do not know. Why can't they say that explicitly in as many words instead of writing cryptic messages like 'thillai enbadhu LI-yin edhirmarai' etc...

If I answer to this one some of the other questions may get answered�.

Actually, they don't. The only other Q it answers is Q7 - the telephone hopping. Maybe they were playing a prank there. I am not able to extrapolate this to other questions. Sorry....

Actually there is only one more question (Q1).......regarding this bunch of beggars..................

And.....

Laughing

Laughing

Laughing

here i quote from your question............

detective wrote:

1. Why was Thulasi shocked when she saw tea saamiyaar (and that other dumb beggar)? Her expression was as if she saw a dead man come alive.

Laughing

Isnt it very apt for meeting someone who has overcome death......?

Laughing

Jokes apart.........i was just using this often used expression........."his gaze was arresting/electrifying/soothing/calming"............for all these god-men of our country...............and 'pitthan, sitthan, sivan.....' Who else to use it on, other than Thulasi (pithu)!!?!

From: detective on Fri Aug 4 15:22:07 2006.

Naaga wrote:

detective wrote:

1. Why was Thulasi shocked when she saw tea saamiyaar (and that other dumb beggar)? Her expression was as if she saw a dead man come alive.

Laughing

Isnt it very apt for meeting someone who has overcome death......? Laughing

Laughing

Jokes apart.........i was just using this often used expression........."his gaze was arresting/electrifying/soothing/calming"............for all these god-men of our country...............and 'pitthan, sitthan, sivan.....' Who else to use it on, other than Thulasi (pithu)!!?!

This is more confusing than Thulasi's reaction

Confused

Confused

My expression turned out be apt by pure coincidence. I had no idea they were supposed to be "people who have overcome death". Neither did I know that saptha rishi's are supposed to be immortal (you could have made that statement matter-of-factly in the serial, for the benefit of people like me who are not hindu-mythology-savvy).

Anyway....let me know if I understood what you were trying to say:

The gaze of these immortal people is arresting/shocking to abnormal people, but ordinary (even irritating) to all normal people.

From: arunvani on Fri Aug 4 17:53:33 2006. [Full View]

My assumption about these Tea samiyar/dumb samiyar/ last Thaadi samiyar are mummoorthykal ( NAAGAL MOOVAR then AGASTHYAN ) Agasthyan is Grocer. Maths beggar ( ellame Koduthan) may be some extra helping nut.
From: aanaa on Fri Aug 4 18:08:59 2006. [Full View]

Naga

friend of Mine - Krishnan from Singai - always says sidhars are living in Annamali.
He has contact with swamji in Annamalai.
He himself gone thru so many exciting experience.

From: Naaga on Tue Aug 8 9:19:57 2006.

detective wrote:

Anyway....let me know if I understood what you were trying to say:

The gaze of these immortal people is arresting/shocking to abnormal people, but ordinary (even irritating) to all normal people.

Exactly

most of the medicines are bitter.........why would a normal person take it.......?

arunvani wrote:

My assumption about these Tea samiyar/dumb samiyar/ last Thaadi samiyar are mummoorthykal ( NAAGAL MOOVAR then AGASTHYAN ) Agasthyan is Grocer. Maths beggar ( ellame Koduthan) may be some extra helping nut.

Kindly go back and check the lines. There is no "NAANGAL" anywhere.........

It is "Ini moovar, kadaisiyil Agaththiyan"

From: karthik_rcs on Sat Aug 12 8:46:20 2006. [Full View]

Ini Moovar, Kadasiyil Agasthiyan,
But patti says that the dumb beggar could be vashistar.
But vashistar is sage rite,
siddhars are 18 , brahma rishis are different rite

Naga Sir can you clarify about this?

Which siddhar has to be mapped for which Person in the serial
From: AJ on Sun Aug 13 20:45:00 2006. [Full View]

Mr. Naga,
Do you have any new serial coming up on Sun TV in the near future? Or any other channel for that matter? I closed my Sun TV accnt. as soon as CR ended . Will resume the connection if and only if you have something to offer in future.
From: Naaga on Mon Aug 14 8:18:03 2006. [Full View]

karthik_rcs wrote:

siddhars are 18 , brahma rishis are different rite

right........siddhars are very specific to the south and not just 18 but innumerable (Do you know that the celestial nymph Oorvasi, Lords Dakshinamurthi and Murugan are considered siddhars and there exist songs in tamil, ascribed to them?!?). 18 are the main ones, and again the list of the 18 varies from one version to another.

.....and the rishis are from the vedic times, again innumerable. Seven are the brahmarishis.....

The naadi josiyam (Tamil) is supposed to have been written by the Saptharishis.............

There is a lot of confusion about who are the rishis and who are the siddhars........add to that Agasthiyar is a common name in both groups..........again Kagabujundar is a siddhar and there is a naadi in his name. Siva naadi and Dakshinamurthi naadi (straight from the Lord's mouth) are also existing to further heighten the confusion.

karthik_rcs wrote:

Which siddhar has to be mapped for which Person in the serial

Correction......not siddhars......but saptharishis.

Again, I have not worked anything specific like that.........except for the last one to be Agasthiyar.........(Kudamuni, and the myth about drinking a lot of water)

AJ wrote:

Do you have any new serial coming up on Sun TV in the near future? Or any other channel for that matter?

Not in the near future. Working on a couple of ideas. Sun has not allotted me a slot yet. When they do, you will be the first to know. It will be two months from then for telecast.
From: AJ on Mon Aug 14 9:37:41 2006. [Full View]

Naaga wrote:

Again, I have not worked anything specific like that.........except for the last one to be Agasthiyar.........(Kudamuni, and the myth about drinking a lot of water)

So, the grocer was Agasthiyar. I suspected his excessive consumption of water to have had a hidden meaning. Didn't know it was one of Agasthiyar's attributes.
From: aanaa on Mon Aug 14 9:43:44 2006. [Full View]

Naaga wrote:

right........siddhars are very specific to the south and not just 18 but innumerable .

for sidhars

more siddhars: http://www.answers.com/topic/siddhar
18 shidars with names: http://sripambattisiddhar.com/siddhars/
http://www.nandhi.com/siddhars.htm

Naga: Give your choises also to sun reg. telecasting slot
From: detective on Mon Aug 14 12:56:24 2006. [Full View]

AJ wrote:

I closed my Sun TV accnt. as soon as CR ended . Will resume the connection if and only if you have something to offer in future.

I am seriously considering the same. It is official that World Cup Cricket 2007 will be on DirecTV in the US and Vijay TV is available there. I will get unbiased news, if not anything else. The above reasons are really pushing me in that direction. That would mean an agreement with DirecTV and no more SunTV for the next 2 years. Technically, it is still possible to have SunTV as well, but the additional dish and $20 a month are making me think.

Any inputs from other hubbers?????

From: AJ on Mon Aug 14 16:18:28 2006.

detective wrote:

I closed my Sun TV accnt. as soon as CR ended Smile

Smile

. Will resume the connection if and only if you have something to offer in future.

I am seriously considering the same. It is official that World Cup Cricket 2007 will be on DirecTV in the US and Vijay TV is available there. I will get unbiased news, if not anything else. The above reasons are really pushing me in that direction. That would mean an agreement with DirecTV and no more SunTV for the next 2 years. Technically, it is still possible to have SunTV as well, but the additional dish and $20 a month are making me think.

Any inputs from other hubbers?????

IMO, CR was the saving grace for Sun TV. Now that it's over, Sun TV is just a waste of time. Agree with you on the bias on the daily news on Sun. And Vijay has much better programmes than Sun. It shows better movies, if not anything else, unlike Sun which shows the same old rotten movies on a rotational basis. I'm glad I got rid of Sun TV. Like I said before, no Naga neram = no Sun TV

Smile

Go for DirecTV. That's a better choice.

From: detective on Mon Aug 14 18:08:34 2006.

IMO, CR was the saving grace for Sun TV. Now that it's over, Sun TV is just a waste of time. Agree with you on the bias on the daily news on Sun. And Vijay has much better programmes than Sun. It shows better movies, if not anything else, unlike Sun which shows the same old rotten movies on a rotational basis. I'm glad I got rid of Sun TV. Like I said before, no Naga neram = no Sun TV Smile

Smile

Go for DirecTV. That's a better choice.

Some complaints I found on the web are:

1. VijayTV programs are a week old whereas SunTV is only 12 hrs old. This does not matter for normal programs, but "pongal siRappu nigazchigaL" will be telecast on Jan 22. That may be annoying. Of course, news will be completely out of date, but......

2. VijayTV does not do news anymore. Apparantly, there are so many better news channels that there are no viewers for Vijay's news. Sun and Jaya still do the news as they need it to promote the accomplishments of DMK and AIADMK.

But you get DD India FREE if you subscribe for VijayTV - i dunno if that is an advantage or disadvantage, though

Wink

From: karthik_rcs on Tue Aug 15 0:16:36 2006. [Full View]

[quote="Naaga"]
karthik_rcs wrote:

siddhars are 18 , brahma rishis
are different rite

Thanks Naga Sir for your explanations...

Sometimes i personally feel Tea Samiyar action relates to vishwamithrar...- one who gets angry easily...

KagaBujandar - He is siddhar who appears to be in Crow Form.
Kagam - Crow in Tamil , Pusundan is his real name.

The Crow(Siddhar lived for years), agasthiyar one day met him and asked about what all he has seen.
The Explanation he gave was astounding to agasthiyar
1. I (KagaBujandar) have seen vishnu avatar Rama avatar 7 times
2. 3 times pralayam has come...

IT goes like this...

Just wanted to share .
Similarly in one serial called SIVAMAYAM they show the 18 siddhar and their astama siddhi powers in that.

Quote:

http://sripambattisiddhar.com/siddhars/

Thanks for the Link too.

From: pamrang on Wed Aug 16 17:08:59 2006.

detective wrote:

Exactly my thoughts.... All said and done, the serial did make us think. The very fact that we are upset about the abrupt end, shows that our expectations were high becaue the way the serial started. We want an answer to our questions because we think there should be a hidden meaning behind everything - again because of the way the serial started.

Naaga deserves a thank you first. Thank you, Naaga.

Thanks to TS for tirelessly updating the forum. Looks like everyone has forgotten pamrang, who correctly predicted 50% of the 'ragasiyam', YG becoming blind etc.... Special congrats to you pamrang - I dont know if you are still following the forum.

Thanks, detective; I wasn't following the forum for the last one month. It was very nice to be reading updates on a regular basis and participating in these discussions. Thanks a lot for that TS! Also thanks to all the hubbers for such lively discussions; I did learn a lot frm this thread. And, most of all, a big thank you for Naaga.

I am really surprised to find the thread active even after a month! (Crazy fans that we are!)

From: breakfree on Sun Aug 20 4:51:21 2006. [Full View]

good questios ...imp thing is wat is the connection between origami and the serial... and people kept sayin ellame kodu thaan ... wat does that mean?
From: gops2000 on Wed Sep 6 13:09:04 2006. [Full View]

can you plzzzz upload the last episode again, even low resolution is also okay, i missed it so badly, totally forgot it was being telecasted on sunday, i used to rush back home from office every wednesday and annoyingly missed the last episode....very bad !
kindly upload, thanks.
From: dheeraj_kumar on Tue Oct 17 12:57:01 2006. [Full View]

I am from Chennai.
Where can I get DVDs/CDs of Naga's serials(all of them)- CR, Marma Desam, Vidadhu Karuppu, Rudhra Veenai etc...and if possible tell the price too...
From: bingleguy on Sun Oct 29 1:17:56 2006. [Full View]

Naga sir .... CR oda first part innikki paakarthukku vaaippu kidaichudhu ....

Nostalgic memories .....

i believe adhula andha pichaikaaran maadiri andha character oda Somu pesina andha shot ... i guess it was taken in bangalore ... correctaaa?
From: Naaga on Wed Nov 1 7:29:52 2006. [Full View]

bingleguy wrote:

i believe adhula andha pichaikaaran maadiri andha character oda Somu pesina andha shot ... i guess it was taken in bangalore ... correctaaa?

Romba correcttu.......adhu mattum illa, antha accident varaikkum.......ellame bangalorela eduthathu. (2 years back, it was verrrrry costly to shoot on chennai roads.)
From: bingleguy on Wed Nov 1 10:01:09 2006. [Full View]

Naga sir meeting u after a long time

i am seeing the CR right from the begg again naan first lendhu paaka aarambichirundhen nna indha CR thread would have crossed 200 pages ....

I dont have words to appreciate ur work I happenned to talk to one of ur friend Satish ... who handled camera for a few episodes in CR !

Once again Naga sir

We are waiting for ur next MasterPiece
From: bingleguy on Tue Nov 7 18:39:09 2006. [Full View]

Meendum CR

I am enjoying the serial very much ... watching it again ! as though am watching it for the first time ....

Naga sir .... i ve come till Akash meets Thillairajan in Chidambaram .... adhulendhu innikki continue aagum ....
From: bingleguy on Fri Nov 10 12:49:15 2006. [Full View]

I m really thrilled about watching CR again ! my friends are all astonished me sitting n watching CR when all the others are sitting on Friends n some crazy stuff ....

Namma CR kku nigar unda ?

Naga sir .... ur work is really a project ! I feel the time u have invested to travel to places gathering information about Naadi Jothidam ... in every single aspect .... I would like to appreciate these minute things that were taken care of ...

>> Naadi Jothidars way of reciting the contents of the naadi (some seemed real professionals ... but some are actors) the actors really performed well

>> The life of a josiyar ... their way of life, family, problems, sikkals , situations ....

>> Continuity and keeping up the lively spirit ... this is wat keeps the viewer waiting for the next episode

>> Character choices .... BEST of BEST characters chosen to act particularly Bombay Gyanam and YGM and namma GOD Mohanraam sir ... andha character aave maaritaanga .... Namma Somu character was also really good

Everyone stood in their own way

more pinpoints to come
From: bingleguy on Sat Nov 11 0:09:52 2006. [Full View]

naan paakaadha episodes ....

andha total names la Somu vandhadhu, really would have created unusual tension among the watchers that he would be the person whos gonna die during the chitirai month .... but andha payyanai ..... somu ...

that was a good turning point ....

during Chaya n Akash conversation , when she calls from Vizhuppuram ....there is another shadow image that is seen ... adhai pathi forum la kandippa kettiruppaanga .... can somebody say in which page ... n who was that ?
From: bingleguy on Sat Nov 11 0:18:04 2006. [Full View]

when the police constable came to call the aravaanis .... why didnt he question Akash's presence there ? sambandham illennaalum ... atleast avarai andha death spot la paathadhunaala question panni irukkanum nnu feel panren .... he was not cared at ... so summa constable vandhu avangala inspector koopittadhaa solli anupittaaga ....
From: bingleguy on Sat Nov 11 0:24:35 2006. [Full View]

Somu for the first time THINKS about the incidents ..... he is made to THINK .... was this predicted before ... ?

ippo varaikkum paathavanga ....
based on the type of dress, based on the kural and based on the fact that he knows in and out of many places....... SAVARIMUTHU nnu guess panni iruppaanga ....

i am not seeing the pages earlier ... so this is again a guess... also naan paakaadha episodes ....
From: bingleguy on Sat Nov 11 0:26:30 2006. [Full View]

Excellent ... next scene la ye ... kaadhula thazumbu pathi solli irukkaanga ... well, anbarasu naadi jothidar sonna adhe adayalam
From: bingleguy on Sat Nov 11 0:48:41 2006. [Full View]

the suspect's reaction towards ARTHI .... two things ...

>> andha chinna payyanum sethu poittan

this dialogue and the tone says that he is been killing for somebody else .... adhu naala dhaan oru karisanam....

>> arthi kku ippadi aagarathukku nambalum kaaranamaa aayitomae nnu ninaithu azharaannu ninaikiren ... probably he should know about arthi... or ivan edhaavadhu kashtathula irundhirukkanum, and he is being used to do the murders for getting relieved from his probs .....

poruthirundhu paarpom !
From: bingleguy on Sun Nov 12 14:44:40 2006. [Full View]

In the episode 52 ........ when the violin guy introduces somu as his friend to all the others.... devi was there ,.... she knows Somu ... why didnt she react that he is the one who killed his father ??????????????
From: nacdaman on Thu Nov 16 17:56:48 2006. [Full View]

Is Naaga sir directing the 3 D Serial ??? Any one's seen that??? any reviews?? I saw the launch pictures on Hindu a few weeks back.
From: kelly on Wed Dec 6 0:19:05 2006. [Full View]

Naga sir,
When is your next serial, why are you taking so long.
From: bingleguy on Wed Dec 6 12:03:07 2006. [Full View]

nacdaman wrote:

Is Naaga sir directing the 3 D Serial ??? Any one's seen that??? any reviews?? I saw the launch pictures on Hindu a few weeks back.

Are u sure that was Naga sir's ? was his name mentioned in that ? coz there is on more 3D serial that is coming up ..... can u gimme the link !
From: nacdaman on Wed Dec 6 14:49:01 2006. [Full View]

http://www.gvfilms.com/hindu_aug31.htm

http://www.gvfilms.com/indianexpress_aug30.htm

Looks like mukesh khanna of "Bheeshma / Shakthimaan" Fame is acting in this.
From: bingleguy on Wed Dec 6 17:04:19 2006. [Full View]

nac .... i fear this work has been dropped !
Naga sir must be able to give updates on this ....
From: clnarain on Tue Dec 26 20:21:48 2006. [Full View]

Hi Guys,

I recently had an opportunity to view the complete set of episodes of CR. I don't have to say anything about it as i'm speechless about naga's work. I don't understand one thing. While the reason for all other murders have been explained, I don't seem to the find the details about the person who killed isakki and perumal reddy. Have I missed that one or has that not been showed at all? Can anyone explain that?
From: bingleguy on Wed Jan 3 18:21:49 2007. [Full View]

Just came across this ..... thought of sharing ....

One man's meat is another man's poison.

The name was first used in the Aphorisms of Hippocrates, a long series of propositions concerning the symptoms and diagnosis of disease and the art of healing and medicine. The term came to be applied later to other sententious statements of physical science, and later still to statements of all kinds of principles.

Care should be taken not to confound aphorisms with axioms. Aphorisms come into being as the result of experience. This is also often the case with axioms (see axiomatization; Euclidean geometry), but due to their apparent certainty, axioms are then regarded as assertions not requiring proof, and used as the starting point for further deductive reasoning. Aphorisms have been especially used in dealing with subjects such as art, agriculture, medicine, jurisprudence, and politics, to which little methodical or scientific treatment was applied at the time.
From: Bala8749 on Fri May 25 2:33:07 2007. [Full View]

Hi guys,

is there anywhere in the website, that i can download episodes of Chidambara Ragasiyam or where can i buy it as a vcd or dvd package?

Pls advice.
From: nandhunaren on Tue Aug 7 16:21:19 2007. [Full View]

guys,
i haven't visited the forum in a while. but looks like a lot of people have shown interest in getting the show episodes on a dvd or vcd. I have all the episodes of CR and MM 1 - Kaalabairavar on my hard drive. Send me a pm and I will send copies to whomever is interested.
From: ts on Wed Aug 8 6:53:44 2007. [Full View]

Hi Nandhunaren,

You have PM .

Rgds
TS
From: aanaa on Wed Aug 8 8:18:46 2007. [Full View]

HI Nandhunaren

thanks for offering help hand

From: Nermai on Wed Aug 29 10:21:24 2007.

nandhunaren wrote:

guys,
i haven't visited the forum in a while. but looks like a lot of people have shown interest in getting the show episodes on a dvd or vcd. I have all the episodes of CR and MM 1 - Kaalabairavar on my hard drive. Send me a pm and I will send copies to whomever is interested.

Hi recently sent you PM but it is still in my outbox and doesnt show in sentbox. Can you check it? Do you know why its still in outbox?
Thanks

From: Nermai on Wed Aug 29 10:21:30 2007.

nandhunaren wrote:

guys,
i haven't visited the forum in a while. but looks like a lot of people have shown interest in getting the show episodes on a dvd or vcd. I have all the episodes of CR and MM 1 - Kaalabairavar on my hard drive. Send me a pm and I will send copies to whomever is interested.

Hi recently sent you PM but it is still in my outbox and doesnt show in sentbox. Can you check it? Do you know why its still in outbox?
Thanks

From: RR on Fri Oct 5 3:56:52 2007. [Full View]

To continue this topic, you may go to Naga Neram:

http://forumhub.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?t=7555

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