The Universal Truth of "God Supreme"

Thread started by virarajendra on 15th April 2008 11:21 PM

"The Universal Truth of "God Supreme"

The "God Supreme" of the religions that sprung from India and of the other world religions - "is none but one"

In India the "God Supreme" of no specific form or name was given many different 'forms' and 'names' by various "Hindu Religious Beliefs" - as God Siva (Shiva) in Saivaism, as God Vishnu in Vaishnavaism, Goddess Sakthi in Saktham, God Kanapathi in Kanapathiyam, God Skanda in Kaumaram, and as God Agni in Vedism - (collectively known as "Hinduism") - and was worshiped by Hindus from the time immemorial.

The above God Forms never took birth in this world in human forms. Hence they were called by the prefix title (the) "God"

However in Vaishnavaism it was further considered that God Vishnu took ten incarnations in this world, among which are the incarnations as Lord Rama and Lord Krishna.

The Jainism and Buddhism preached by Lord Mahaveer and Lord Buddha - being two other religions of India, upheld the principle of non-existance of God. Sikism recognised "God Supreme" as the Guru (Preacher) to the mankind.

Among the world religions - the Islamic religion referred to the "God Supreme" of no specific form or name as "Allah", and Prophet Mohammad as the Messenger of the "God Supreme".

The Christian religion referred to Lord Jesus Christ as the Son of the "God Supreme" of no specific form or name. The Judaism too recognised the existance of the "God Supreme" of no specific form or name.

Hence it should be understood that - "no Religion in this World is superior to the other," as all these Religions worship finally to the 'One and only' Ultimate - the "God Supreme"

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From: anbu_kathir on 5th August 2012 02:13 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN

This is where the problem is , well IMHO. Why do we look for this Energy externally, when this energy which created the cosmos within our self ?

If I have to answer your question, I must first understand the following.

What you mean by "within our self"? Within the body? Or the mind? What is creation? What is the cosmos? What is this energy you speak of?

Love and Light.
From: PARAMASHIVAN on 6th August 2012 03:28 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by anbu_kathir

If I have to answer your question, I must first understand the following.

What you mean by "within our self"? Within the body? Or the mind? What is creation? What is the cosmos? What is this energy you speak of?

Love and Light.

What I meant was when the "Energy/Creator /GOD" which created this cosmos and it's attributes is within us (Mind/Body) why do we need to look for the source of creation externnally , like Diety worship ?
From: anbu_kathir on 7th August 2012 09:35 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN

What I meant was when the "Energy/Creator /GOD" which created this cosmos and it's attributes is within us (Mind/Body) why do we need to look for the source of creation externnally , like Diety worship ?

As the senses and the mind are trained to look for external things only, there is the necessity for the existence of places and forms of worship. But it must be kept in mind that nobody who is indulging in such worship says that they are just worshiping some picture or some stone. Every faithful person believes that it is the omnipotent Lord himself who is present in and as such form, and He is the cause for all creation and is of the nature of justice and compassion.

Love and Light.
From: PARAMASHIVAN on 8th August 2012 09:22 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by anbu_kathir

As the senses and the mind are trained to look for external things only

Correct

Originally Posted by anbu_kathir

There is the necessity for the existence of places and forms of worship

These places of worship (temples) were constructed in a way to give certain energies to human bodies; hence the ancient temples were built with "Human body" in mind.

Originally Posted by anbu_kathir

. But it must be kept in mind that nobody who is indulging in such worship says that they are just worshiping some picture or some stone, Every faithful person believes that it is the omnipotent Lord himself who is present in and as such form

Applying the same logic, the omnipotent is omnipresent in every parts and parcel within cosmos, including us. So why is necessity for worshiping an object?
From: anbu_kathir on 9th August 2012 11:52 AM [Full View]

Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN

These places of worship (temples) were constructed in a way to give certain energies to human bodies; hence the ancient temples were built with "Human body" in mind.

You can't sell these mystic explanations to a philosopher or to a scientist. Hinduism AFAIK doesn't talk about such things.

Applying the same logic, the omnipotent is omnipresent in every parts and parcel within cosmos, including us. So why is necessity for worshiping an object?

There is no *need* to do anything. The temples are there for people who cannot see the omnipotent omnipresent everywhere. If one can do so, one need not go to a temple. But most of us cannot do so. Therefore the necessity is there for a place and object which is specially sanctified according to traditional rituals, which gives the people an opportunity to forget about worldly affairs and commune mentally with the spirit of living for the Lord, by the Lord and of the Lord.

Love and Light.
From: PARAMASHIVAN on 9th August 2012 02:43 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by anbu_kathir

If one can do so, one need not go to a temple

Correct! These are the enlightened ones

Originally Posted by anbu_kathir

But most of us cannot do so. Therefore the necessity is there for a place and object which is specially sanctified according to traditional rituals

agreed

Originally Posted by anbu_kathir

which gives the people an opportunity to forget about worldly affairs and commune mentally with the spirit of living for the Lord.

Correct, this was the reason for temples being built, but sadly temples have become funds generating business institutes!
From: Sunil_M88 on 13th August 2012 03:56 PM [Full View]

http://www.mayyam.com/talk/showthrea...l=1#post928741
From: anbu_kathir on 13th August 2012 05:03 PM [Full View]

Originally Posted by Sunil_M88

http://www.mayyam.com/talk/showthrea...l=1#post928741

Sunilji

Excuse me if I ask you a personal question, did you live the majority of your personality-forming years in a country other than India?

"Hinduism" is not a religion, indeed, in the notion of Abrahamic religions. But it is a religion in the sense that its fundamental principles are founded on the Veda, which is its holy text.

It is natural to be bewildered by such a "religion" where the people who call themselves as "hindus" subscribe to a whole lot of different and conflicting ideas. Although you do indeed see a similar diversity with other religions (the flavours of Islam, Christianity is a testimony to the fact that they are too not without diversity), in no other do you find it to the extent you find it in Hinduism. The reason for these conflicting ideas is simply that Hinduism allows for different interpretations of the Vedic words according to the nature and mindset of its followers. It allows the diversity, as long as the general guidelines given by the Veda are not contradicted.

As to the issue of polytheism in Hinduism, you yourself have provided the answer.

Originally Posted by Sunil_M88

I knew God wouldn't mind as long as I worship him/her in any form.

You do realise that God is one indeed (in Hinduism), only the forms and names are different. Even when a devout Vaishnavite worships Lord Vishnu, he doesn't simply worship one name or one form. There is the Vishnu Sahasranama which speaks of Vishnu with a thousand names and in a thousand forms (well, nearly.. there are a few repetitions :P) and this devotee is perfectly OK with worshipping Vishnu with all these names and in all these forms. So there is no such thing in Hinduism where God exists only in a particular form alone. So there is no need to feel "guilty" wrt other forms, when you are worshiping one form. Just as you may be playing different roles in your life, like being a son, father, brother, employee, employer, student etc., in the same way, the one and only Lord takes up these names and forms according to the roles that needed to be taken up at those particular occasions. So there is no contradiction at all.

In fact, Hinduism is one of the few religions in this world which is perfectly fine with embracing and encouraging the thinking faculty among the people. As the thirst for knowing the Lord is shown, so too the Lord opens ways for knowing and understanding Her in Her truer and truer forms, which are rewards not just for faith but also for the growing intellect.

Love and Light.

p.s: copy pasted from other thread.
From: Samraj on 1st September 2012 11:38 AM [Full View]

Technically, each Religion is acting as a "telecom service provider" role for communicating with GOD some uses 1st generation technology like trunk booking (through Middle Man acting as Modem!), some uses STD / ISD as a next generation and some uses modern Satellite communication, it is up to the individuals whether they need a middle man to establish a connection instead of using a satellite modem for establishing direct communication.

In my opinion, the elite middle man (acting as Modem/Router) in every Religion are the problem creators for their greediness for money, power and political establishments.

We as a consumer are the victims who are running behind the telecom service provider for establishing the connectivity with GOD, instead of using modern technologies like Satellite communication, DTH etc

Conversion or Migration between the "telecom service providers" also becomes political issue in India for vote bank policy
From: virarajendra on 6th May 2013 11:54 PM [Full View]

brought forward

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