Maestro ilaiyaraaja news & titbits

[SoftSword]

ok. ok .. you guys are mad. I have no choice but to attack venkiram now
Seriously, I think, many of us are treating IR like a standard human being. I think HE is not. No, he is not God or Evil. He is an example of the extreme power of human mind, of what it can achieve when focussed on a subject intently and that it works so furiously and fast even the owner of the mind does not know how it happens !!!
I think it happens to many of us too but not that often or regularly .. Have you ever went to sleep with a problem at work or home and when you wakeup suddenly the solution dawns on you. Exactly the same thing happens when you know the seven swaras and you are constantly making permutations and combinations of it all the time. In the case of IR, it happens when he is awake and happens every day..Imagine 5000 main tunes and so many bits and pieces everyday.. The mind is totally focussed on the notes the linear sequencing of them and many times, the parallel sequencing of them .. (counterpoints, harmony, chords). When the mind is doing such intense and fruitful activity.. do you think the mundane aspects of daily, the niceties , politeness and understatements/overstatements or sophistry any important ? When the fire is small we can control and make it do what we want.. when it is big like the Sun.. just worship .. ok you dont have to worship ..just dont go near .. you will get burnt. Just enjoy the sunlight from far away.
This is reality folks.. we are all human beings .. we should respect each other well.. but some people are special.. Certain standards do not apply to them.. As simple as that. To be specific, just listen to the music.. enjoy it or complain about it.. but it is difficult for you or me to understand the mind that creates such an ocean of it..
(venkiram.. you know this is not targeted at you .. just my thoughts .. no offence meant )

good post

[rajaramsgi]

Thats Tamil website says:"Maestro Ilayaraja's song to be aired in London olympics opening ceremony". See the link:
http://tamil.oneindia.in/news/2012/0...cs-156052.html

இந்த பாடலுக்கு இதுவரை நான் முக்கியத்துவம் கொடுத்ததில்லை ஆனால் இந்த நியூஸ் படித்த பிறகு திடீரென்று பிடித்து விட்டது. கபடி போன்ற விளையாட்டுகளுக்கு பெரிதும் உந்துதலாக இருக்கும். இந்த பாடலை ராஜா சார் எப்படி SPB 'க்கு சொல்லி கொடுத்திருப்பார்? நன்றாக என்ஜாய் பண்ணி இருக்கக்கூடும்.

http://thiraipaadal.com/album.php?AL...R00541&lang=en

[Kimrep]

rajaramsgi,
dunno about "naanthan" but totally digging "vaalibamey vaa vaa" listed right next to it. thanks.

[V_S]

Very nice posts kiru and senthilv.

[Plum]

Kiru and senthilv -

venkkiram - please apply the same standards of humility, arrogance etc to VMuthu etc. Problem is there is a ontinuous propoganda about IR's arrogance alone and the fashin is to twist his words and actions continuously. What about a kavignar who awards a kaviperarasu pattam to himself just because his more illustrious predecessor was called kaviyarasu - this, when, he is not fit to tie the shoelaces of his predecessor. Now, that is TRUE arrogance. Thinking of himself as bigger than he is in his field.
OTOH, IR has always been humble towards his illlustrious predecesors and is humble before his art. That is true humility.

IR is the real humble musician. Fake humility towards unworthy humans - SPB once said he is humble towards everyone just so that nobody pulls him down whicht hey will if he is arrogant; in other words, fake humility is what he practices; he admitted, other humility icons dont admit, thats the differnece - is the tru arrogance and lack of humility.

Some people will never understand this. Their loss.

[Plum]

And I subscribe to the "Music is bigger than language" theory. P_R might remember PM conversations we have had on this topic. What is amusing to me is the bad mouthing of Raja just because he expressed his belief in this theory. Why shouldnt he think that way? enakku Assamese theriyAdhu - but I can respond to a melody in Assamese purely based on its musical qualities. Can I appreciate its lyrical beauty? Language has its limitations - music, is, indeed, greater.

[irir123]

For someone to be arrogant enough for people to notice and speak abt it, that person should have the time to exhibit his/her arrogance, right ?

IR spends the better part of his days composing, orchestrating, conducting, mixing and finalising his music tracks, and when he finds some time in-between, indulges in writing 'vennpa' etc etc - am sure he also somehow finds time to learn genres of music such as jazz, blues etc (from his hungarian friends) - idhellaam poga, breakfast, lunch, 6-8 hrs of sleep, regular visits to thiruvannamalai, budapest, mumbai or cochin - how can this man find the time to display his arrogance ??

his story is not just one of genius / talent spewing forth - its a combination of extraordinary talent and extreme hard(ship)work, dedication and discipline!

I do not just understand - @ 40 movies per year (on an average), during his peak years, IR must have been so busy a workaholic, he wudnt have had time for even regular lunches!

so where does all this rumour-mongering abt his arrogance come from ??

if at all, thanks to his 100% focus on his music (besides literature, poetry and photography), he wud have probably lost out on socialising skills! and that is what is showing through in his lack of tact while handling reporters / media etc etc.

[Plum]

irir that is the point. His arrogance is a carefully cultivated defamation by vested interests. See how people like venkkiram cannot even understand that IR is simply stating his belief and his school of thought - to call that sAkkadai etc and talk as if he is a great sinner or mad man - it just shows the either a) lack of comprehension and lack of tolerance fo an opposing POV or b) vested "IR is great in music but.." type avadhooRu spouting by the likes of venkkiram. What I find funniest is that in trying to criticise IR, these people exhibt the same behaviour which they claime xists in IR(which actually doesnt).

[V_S]

And that MSV comparison, though misplaced, does not seem intentional. He probably meant to illustrate an example where a director went for someone up in the hierarchy after working with someone perceived to be 'trendy in the current times'. I feel he did not mean that a director has gone to someone who has run out of steam.

I’m in my church praying to my god and he’s in his church praying to his. There was a time we were in the same church, and I miss that.” That’s regrettably how I feel about much of Ilayaraja’s music today, and I think I speak for a fair number of his fans who worshipped the great man in the 1970s through the early 1990s. The congregation has shrunk to a cult, with only a handful of dogged devotees still keeping the faith.

even the old-faithfuls like Bharathiraja, left Ilayaraja behind and latched on to younger talents

aarkarsh,
If he would have mentioned what you conceived, I would not have even responded at all. I would have ignored that article totally.

Please note the above two quotes. It is not a casual comparision or a harmless analogy (as vijayr stated). He says, I'm in my church and he is in his church and we were in same church earlier. He moved on and feels sorry, as he could not continue with him. He also affirms that with Bharathiraja's analogy. That is his thought, which I agree, but he is adding other fans ( I think I speak for a fair number of his fans who worshipped the great man in the 1970s through the early 1990s) to his thoughts (can he?) and even mentioning only few devotees are sticking with him (which was totally unwarranted from BR's calibre). So from this, what do you conceive? Every body moved on Gautham, why are you going back? Is it not hurting us? Was that a casual or harmless statement? I don't think so. That's when I responded. Sorry for reverting back, but this will be my last.

[Plum]

V-S - no need for this to be your last post on this. Unga manakkumuRal theerum varai post paNNunga. I don't see why you should hold back just for the sake of politeness. What else are forums for