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16th May 2006, 08:53 AM
#21
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misrep
Asoka Brahmi- the name given to the Scripts, but not because it was invented by him, but he extensively made Stone Inscriptions all over India.
Karoshti was its earlier form, and we have few Scrolls also of it .
Brahmi has vowels which is absent till 800CE, in Hebrew and Aramaic, which are said to have been its source.
Brahmi Vowls shoe clearly that Brahmi was developed for Sanskrit, though stone inscriptions we have it show its earlier usage in Prakrit.
Tholkappiyam Ezuththathigaram matches with the Third stage of Brahmi which are dated to 100CE or Later, and it also confirms that Brahmi is done for Sanskrit.
Even Before Asoka, we have JAina Rishis in Tamilnadu, and hence Inscription of 3rd Cen BCE, earlier than 233BCE of Asoka is no Surprise.
What a gross misrep of history!!
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16th May 2006 08:53 AM
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16th May 2006, 11:48 PM
#22
Brahmi Vowls shoe clearly that Brahmi was developed for Sanskrit and show clearly that Brahmi was developed for Tamil.
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17th May 2006, 02:29 AM
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17th May 2006, 01:05 PM
#24
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Brahmi Scripts
Friends,
Evolvement of Brahmi Scripts have been analysed in Depth by Various Scholars and waht I said was only their View as Crisp.
Brahmi Tamil development can be put in 3 Stages.
BT1- Sanskrit Letters used for Pragrit used for Tamil withour consideration for Tamil Grammer mostly using Pragrit words and ends with Pragrit Literary styles.
BT2- Same now adopted and use Tamil grammer and Tamil ending - this starts by BCE50.
BT-Pulli Here putting Dots have started, with more Tamil words and tamil styles . This is from CE100-300.
Tholkappiyam Ezuthathikaram uses BT-Pulli for its base.
More from Tholkappiyam and Brahmi in my next posts.
Devapriya.
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17th May 2006, 06:31 PM
#25
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workings.
BT2- Same now adopted and use Tamil grammer and Tamil ending - this starts by BCE50.
BT-Pulli Here putting Dots have started, with more Tamil words and tamil styles . This is from CE100-300.
In your next post, please also tell us how the dates were arrived at. Give us the "workings" by which these guys arrived at the dates they are giving.
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21st May 2006, 02:14 PM
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TAMIL Writings and Sanskrit derived Brahmi
Friends,
Asoka is dated now. Similarly Sathavhanas are dated, now to date Senkuttuvan with Silapathikaram and Srilanka's Mahavamsa- is possible. Chronology of Chera Kings is mostly possible with Pathirrupattu. Linking with Respective Pandya and Chola and Pulavars who sung who is possible.
Bishop Caldwell clearly said that " by having the special Tamil letters in vuyirmei series it has absorbed from Sanskrit. And Thani Tamil movement K.P.Aravanan went on to write that earlier Tamil started differently etc., and all this Non-provable claims becomes Nonsense.
Bismala Google search would give lot of answers to your questions.
Tamil uyir ezuthu writing as confirmed by Tholkappiyam and till 18th century end confirms that Sanskrit was the Basis for Brahmi. More details shortly.
Devapriya.
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21st May 2006, 07:31 PM
#27
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More from Tholkappiyam and Brahmi in my next posts.
All hubbers visiting these threads, please do not make google searches: as quoted above, devapriya is coming out with the details SHORTLY.
So why waste time.... we just wait!!
it has absorbed from Sanskrit.
Nothing comes from sans the scriptless.
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26th May 2006, 06:17 PM
#28
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Tamil Writings
Friends,
Brahmi was developed fOR Brahmi.
Vedic Texts are clear at very few places that they were put in writing.
Tamil burrowed it through Prakrit a BRanch of Sanskrit. Samana Rishis brought it.
Tamil did not have any writing on its own prior to it.
Why do not Research yourself and reply instead of keep blabering agains and again.
Devapriya.
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26th May 2006, 08:08 PM
#29
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Re: Tamil Writings
Originally Posted by
devapriya
Friends,
Brahmi was developed fOR Brahmi.
Vedic Texts are clear at very few places that they were put in writing.
Tamil burrowed it through Prakrit a BRanch of Sanskrit. Samana Rishis brought it.
Tamil did not have any writing on its own prior to it.
Why do not Research yourself and reply instead of keep blabering agains and again.
Devapriya.
You said more details shortly and this is what you have come up with.
Please give the promised details....Do not practise escapism.
Tamil did not borrow any writing from anywhere. Tamil did not practise oral tradition like the vedics. Do not try the twist.
Our research is very very clear. Only you are messing up history.
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29th May 2006, 10:40 AM
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Tamil writing System
Friends,
In his book Caldwell confirmed that Tamil writing system copied the Sanskrit system and added the Tamil Special letters in the end.
Thani Tamil- mismovement SCholar K.P.ARavanan wrote that earlier there was another writing system with za,Za as start, we do not have any proofs.
I suggest you to see the growth of Tamil Epighaphy and Tholkappiyam Ezuthathikaram before confronting them.
Tamil used half the words burrowed from Sanskrit and Prakrit and i HAVE earlier given quotes from Prof. Hart.
As for as My GIVING YOU Proofs for BRAHMI- IS FOR SANSKRIT.
I need to wait till you finish all nonsense attacks overme, and also my research on going is confirmed with more sources. Please wait.
Devapriya.
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