Historical Debates/Qs/Facts/Theories

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Topic started by vj on Sun Aug 15 20:49:49 .


This may be a thread, clarifying misconceptions about Indian history. We could post queries also.

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In a discussion forum, someone made the claim that Madurai was named after Mathura. Do let me know of the statement's strength.
I am reproducing his post here...

Madurai incidentally was named after Mathura.

Mathura is very very very old, and there is historical evidence to show that Madurai was
named after Mathura because it was the temple town of the south, analogous to Mathura. Mathura
has been a major religious and trade center for over 3000 years. It is a major city in the
Mahabharata, and ancient Buddhist and Greek writers refer to it.

Madurai, like most of the urban south, developed in AD, not BC.

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Venkatesh G Rao on Sulekha CoffeeHouse

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There is a district in Indonesia called Madura.
Any connections?

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Its an island.
There is connection.
The people there speak a different language called Madurese which is related to Javanese.

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Ennaanga Mr. JayBee. )
What is the connection, please?
Ennai homework seiyya cholla maatteenga-nu namburen. )

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NOV,
avar Dr.Jaybee

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Paravaayillai.
Eppadi connaalthaan enna?
JayBee, JayBee-thaanE?

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About two thousand years ago, people from India ventured out to South East Asia. May be earlier.
They were mainly from Tamilnaadu, Andra, Kalingga, and Bengal.
Many kingdoms were established.
Some of the royal dynsties were of South Indian origin.
There were Pandyas, Pallavas, Cholas, etc.
For example, the Khmer royal line was related to the Pallavas.
The later Malay kings claim descent from the grandson of Rajendra Chola.
When they settled in that huge land mass, they
named their towns after the towns in their land of origin.
Thus you find Madura in Java, Ayuththiya in Thailand and Takkola in Thailand. There were many others.
Takkola is now known as Ta Kua Pa. It is named after a town in Tamilnadu - Takkolam. Its near Kanchipuram.

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Somebody wrote this:

>>>Madurai, like most of the urban south, developed in AD, not BC.

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Venkatesh G Rao on Sulekha CoffeeHouse<<<

No. Its not so.
Madurai was already there as early as 300 B.C.
Proton magnetometer studies and other recent discoveries point to an even earlier time - around 600 B.C.
Its mentioned in Paripaadal - Sanggam work.
It had a different shape and size.
The river Vaigai has also altered course several times.
There were several articles that I have written on this in the Tamil.net and Agathiyar.
I don't have them with me, now.
Otherwise I could have forwarded them to you people.

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What is the story of Madurai being swallowed by the sea twice (kadal kondathu) and the present Madurai is the third in line. Also mentioned is the pahtruLi aaRu, which was also taken by the sea.