Television

**VENKIRAJA** · 14th September 2012, 12:14 AM

Started with Game of the Thrones since BB won't be there for a while.
So much promise in the premise, when I compare it to the bullshit that is called Lord of the Rings.

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**wizzy** · 15th September 2012, 01:32 AM

bullshit that is called Lord of the Rings

read the book read the book

Have to finish the 9 episodes of "Luck" (& see if it's a loss), then I will get to The Newsroom.

you got some fetish for cancelled shows

Rubicon is kick ass stuff..can see why AMC cancelled it..slowly unfolding story which lacks those agmark cliffhanger moments which make the viewers sit up..yam thinking of a four leaf clovers DDoS attack on AMC.

**kid-glove** · 15th September 2012, 02:08 AM

You know that's exactly what that gets on my tits. If Rubicon is 'slow burning', I implore American audience to watch TTSS..

**kid-glove** · 15th September 2012, 02:22 AM

Also I believe HBO cancelled "Luck" for PETA reasons. Having watched first 6 episodes, I'm not at all surprised.

Milch doing a Mann protagonist, in Mann-ered world of outsiders. But Mann only got to direct the pilot. He didn't really have a lot to chew there. But as the series goes on, there are lot more Mann-deserving moments. The races are all captured well. The tribulations of the stables, trailers, and races, which are really non-urbanized zone. Milch really gets that tone of people who are caught in a world they don't really want to break out of, in to the 'modern world'. Characters who are clearly stuck and content being there. Characters who have the means to get out, but wanting to go back there for more. Characters who couldn't really get out of it, for various other reasons (chief of all, for having not made it). The main plot with Hoffman's Ace Bernstein (doing the Deniro role, doing it well) who wants to get back at people he'd not want to rat out to the 'system' that he deplores & opts to be out of. Now in his own terms, wants to get back at those who wronged him. Still without having seen the grandson in first 6 episodes, you already buy in to it.

Milch really not getting the break he deserves with his sole creations.. Even Deadwood finished somewhat hurriedly that it could be considered a premature.

**kid-glove** · 15th September 2012, 03:21 AM

Originally Posted by kid-glove

Parade's End - 3rd episode

A socialite adulteress wants to be chaste and truthful to the Cuckold, who accepts her back without being taken into manly feelings she tries to ellicit (through this adultery, as she says, she'd only do it when he's looking!), whose ideals makes him stop short of consummating the relationship with a young suffragette, a fatherless free-spirited woman(intellectually, unlike the wife, who might be called a 'loose', considering she has sex with another man on day of the marriage) who is happy to be his spiritual companion. The man is awkward looking and perhaps even sexually inert after a point. He choose to serve in World War I. There's also a child who may or may not be his.

This is positively anti-Downton Abbey, what an expertly sensitive filmmaker is Sussanna White.

With all the social, familial, religious, ideological underpinnings & sex politics you'd expect. The Elegiac tone of the ruling class, without being inconsiderate of the lesser ones, whose need for change is parallely underlined. People of their time and place, without being any less relevant.

Re.sexism,
In lesser hands, Parade's End might be the most sexist show on TV if not for sensitivity & layered approach (against 'hasty judgement') by Sussanna White. Again shows that TV could be a director's medium too.

4th Episode.

Continues to show up the innocence of "Downton Abbey" (which I'll refuse to knock, coz the relative simple-minded morality is very much at heart of it)

Only in British television, do we see refined comic actors like Roger Allam and Timothy Spall, don't we!

**VENKIRAJA** · 15th September 2012, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by wizzy

read the book read the book

**kid-glove** · 15th September 2012, 11:11 AM

If someone didn't like Godfather, no one dared said to read the book.

**wizzy** · 15th September 2012, 12:38 PM

You know that's exactly what that gets on my tits. If Rubicon is 'slow burning', I implore American audience to watch TTSS..

Brits have an unfair advantage over them in this sort..for long they have been well-fed with stable diet of Danger Man/The Prisoner/Ace of Spies/Edge of Darkness/A Perfect Spy..they simply are masters of this domain.

If someone didn't like Godfather, no one dared said to read the book.

Godfather can exist/make up for a great viewing even if the viewer has no cognizance of back-stories..LOTR is a different kettle of fish wherein if you haven't read the book the LOTR will be a mere CGI porn/

for the most part..having said all that LOTR is still one of the best book-to film adaptations ever

**kid-glove** · 15th September 2012, 12:55 PM

No no. LOTR does work for me, without the book. But it's not really something that speaks to me beyond its surface stimulations.

**VENKIRAJA** · 15th September 2012, 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by wizzy

LOTR is still one of the best book-to film adaptations ever

I don't care if anybody wrote the film I just watched already as a book or not, but it just doesn't work.
I mean, over 12 hours of characters thrown into it just for the 'epic' stature and no mere storytelling involved. Its plain boring!