Carnatic Ragas in IR's Music

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A post with good intension, to be "unbiased". But i would like to clarify a few things.

This thread was meant to be "ProIR-Centric", in the first place. And, i wud prefer to stick to ilaiyaraja (with due regards to legends like MSV and KV), for a very simple reason that i like IR more than i like carnatic music ...I am not an expert (like those in ur elite list of knowledgeables) in carnatic, who may also like IR. But i am an IR-Liker, who also happens to like carnatic. Hope you see the difference between the two.

So its IR that is my primary focus is, and carnatic music is just "one of the facets" that i chose to look a bit more deeply. My greater premise still is IR. Without him in the picture, carnatic (in film music) does not appeal much to me. Either the usages (in non IR songs) are too heavy and methodical to be enjoyable or are simply cold without any innovations or simply lack the soul.

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Purv,

Have u listened to "vellai nirathoru pachai kili pillaye" from the film "ennai vittu pogadhe"? It seems to be a derivative of jhankaradhwani...the scale followed is,

s r2 g2 p d1 n1 s....same backwards. The theory books say it is called raga kadhambini.

Asai Nooru vagai - seems another such rare scale. Vakulabharanam sans the gandharam. HOW TO NAME IT

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DIGRESSION

This is a personal request (via e-mail) from DAVE KERMAN...READ ON

Note - (i had asked him about WINGS CD released by ANGELICA, the forum owned by the Italian fan (and composer) who came here to meet IR....For the uninitiated, Dave's ReR USA distributes WINGS in US]

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Hi, There:

Yes, we're big fans of the Maestro, and are proud to be the exclusive N. American importer of "WINGS".

Attached is the information sheet our salesmen use to introduce the product to retailers. (Unfortunately the beautiful, color
CD cover will not reproduce in this email).

If you have any suggestions as to how we can reach more customers, especially any Tamil organisations which might like to buy or sell
this wonderful disk, please let me know.

to be continued....

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Continued.....

If you send me your mailing address, I would be happy to send you a sampler of some of our other artists (be warned - they are of
a completely different musical direction: ReR USA holds no allegiance to any particular style or genre of music; Rather we only care about
excellence. That's why we're so thrilled to have Ilaiyaraaja !!

Many thanks for writing.

Yours in the Joy of Music,

David Kerman,
ReR USA
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END DIGRESSION


I liked the reason he attributes to his liking for ilaiyaraaja

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Today I heard 'Mouna Raagam' from Kolangal. The raaga, Laavanthipriya, seems to be comprised of the following notes:

s r1 m1 p d1 S

And the same backwards.

There are other names for this same raagam, one of which is Karnataka Sudhasaveri. In Hindusthani music, this raaga is called Gunakari.

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Purv,

Amazing...."asai nooru vagai" follows a close scale s r1 m1 p d1 n2 s (vakulabharanam sans gandharam) !!

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Hey guys,

Here's another rare raaga IR has used: Suranandhini, a Shankarabharanam Janya that takes away the Madhyamam from both the ascent and the descent. It is a fusion of Mohanam and Hamsadhwani.
You know the song 'ABC Nee Vaasi?' Since both da2 and ni3 are used in the song with much importance, I guess this song exemplifies Suranandhini raagam. Another song in this raagam, which I heard today, from the film Thendral Varum Theru, the song 'Thendral Varum Theru,' a nice lilting melody, from a soundtrack that was reputedly mediocre.

Vel, I have no idea what the scale's name is. Sorry I can't be of any help here.

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purv....

Keeping in mind the scale i had given, i saw somewhere abt a raga called "vakkal" in this scale....but, whats in a name...It will be taking things too far away

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Purv..another rare song here...

Naa Andhang Pirithi from Prema Raaga Haadu Gelathi (Kannada) is based on pinakini/thanarupi.

Pinakini | S R1 M1 P D3 N3 S | S N3 D3 P M1 R1 S (Derivative of Melakartha Thanarupi)

And ever listened to "Eem debba" from ashwamedham (telugu)...Awesome number in Dharmavathy...

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No kidding!! How'd you ever get to hear that song!?? That's just radical!!