Which non-indian film u saw recently has made u post here???

[ajithfederer]

Adhaane. engada aalai kaanomenu nenachen.

[kid-glove]

If not for Lumet, I'd not even consider Pacino as a 'good' actor, nevermind 'great'.

As for screen presence and intensity, it's never quite as organic as Cagney I'd think, but still very arresting..

[kid-glove]

It was fun watching "Heat", Pacino could have thrown up on the table and stuck his face into it, to take attention away from De niro. And he would still fail.

[kid-glove]

Pacino's idea of pure evil, the devil himself, in The Devil's Advocate, shows how imaginatively ham he is in every way to De niro, watch Angel heart.

Did De Palma destroy Pacino? Discuss.

All the good work that Jerry Schatzberg, Coppola, Lumet and even Norman Jewinson (last time Pacino did 'intensity' without being 1-dimensional) went off like Poof.

[kid-glove]

Let's take his remakes, all the good 'ticks' in SoaW comes from Vittoria Gassman and his mannered suffering feel overcooked compared to Skarsgard. How is this guy even considered a touchstone of 'great acting' is beyond me.

De niro's remakes have dramatically differed and offer a nuanced critique of the original in context of the adaptation, be it Cape Fear or Everybody's Fine..

[groucho070]

adada, Thilak, can't argue on the post 80s Pacino (except, maybe, GF3). But I like the haming it up Pacino, athukunu oru arugatha vEnum and he has it.

Pacino was consistent in 70s, including the none Lumet ones. Case in point Scarecrow, funny and almost tragic. Really heartwarming performance.

Bobby Deerfield parkala, so not sure. ...and justice for all, okay bordering on hoo-ha towards the end (you're out of order!), but again another tragic-comedy (hillarious helicopter scene).

And then you have both Godfather films and the Lumet ones where he really scores. He was up there, then slipped.

Good comparison Nicholson/de Niro, have you watched both of them in The Great Tycoon? Clash of style. In fact, you got the 70s Rajini/Kamal going on there, in terms of performance (one just style and energy, the other "method" or whatever you call it).

De Palma ruined Al, yup, that terrible accent in Scarface should have blackballed Brian from ever directing.

[kid-glove]

"Mean Streets" I'm not too fond of it now, but I did feel at the time that's the closest Scorsese will come to 'nod' Fellini, Rossellini.

All his other films, Goodfellas/Casino what not, did not offer an unbridled world of low-time thugs. But they were masterclasses in filmmaking. Wasn't surprised to know Alexander Payne did Election inspired by editing and narrative choices of Casino. It's an influential film for many reasons. Personal favorite ahead of Goodfellas. How De niro lets Pesci steam off in Casino/Goodfellas is way beyond Pacino's "mode"..

Could Pacino ever do those kind of roles?
Pacino (Any era) wouldn't cut it as Johnny Boy, Sam Rothstein, James Conway.. Nevermind Travis Bickle, Jake LaMotta, Rupert Pupkin.. There's a reason why Marty never went after Pacino when he had Bob & Keitel, and if not Bob, Nicholson..

[groucho070]

Oh one rare one in the 90s, Donnie Brosco, quite good.

Let's take his remakes, all the good 'ticks' in SoaW comes from Vittoria Gassman and his mannered suffering feel overcooked compared to Skarsgard. How is this guy even considered a touchstone of 'great acting' is beyond me.

Let me do a Ghandi-ya suttutAnggalA thingy...ennathu SoaW remake-a .

Saw You Don't Know Jack, not tooo impressed, Pacino decked up looking like Woody of the 70s.

[groucho070]

Agree on those roles Pacino cannot justify, athAn 55/45 mark.

[kid-glove]

You mean 'The Last Tycoon'? Yeah, they did have a masterful 'friction' that lasted for few seconds, wish Nicholson's part was longer. Only Kazan could bring together Mitchum, Nicholson and De niro. Those were the days. These days you get 'The Score' which isn't really epic after all with tepid plot and tepid parts, and with Norton's career going down the drain.