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    Re: Learn Tamil Through TFM

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldposts
    Topic started by tigger (@ 68.78.33.162) on Sun Apr 13 12:13:57 EDT 2003.

    1. samsaaram enbathu veenai..santhosham enbathu raagam.. xxx xxx illai
    I used xxx because I dont even know what he was saying. was it "salanam galadhi illai"? What does that mean?


    Salanangal adhil illai (no waverings in it)

    salanam=waver

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    Q:

    "uLLabadi yogam uLLavarkku"

    yogam = luck or fitness depending on the context.

    I had to listen to the song to understand the context. Looks like he lost his lover to another man and sings this song. The message conveyed is : " if indeed you had luck on your side you would have gotten what you desired"

    Literal meaning: If indeed you had luck whatever seed you plant would grow into a tree.
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    very much, I really like this song and thought Valli's lyrics was a very strong point to this song...so wanted to know for sure what the lyrics meant. Am indebted to you for sure I'm thinking it's like when they say "kodutha vachaven" what it is exactly they are giving and keeping is not exactly clear to me...perhaps karma?

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    "geetha.. sangeetha" song from movie Anbey Sangeetha, there is a line that goes:

    ..oru panjanaiyil iru pyngiligal oodum, vilaiyadum..

    what does this line mean?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigger2 View Post
    ..oru panjanaiyil iru pyngiligal oodum, vilaiyadum..
    IIRC, that line goes like 'koodum, viLaiyAdum' (should listen to the song again to confirm).

    Which is pretty straight forward - 'koodum = have intercourse', 'viLaiyAdum = play'.

    If it really is 'oodum, viLaiyAdum', it makes sense then too. As 'oodal' that means "friction / saNdai / kObiththukkoLLudhal" etc, is also part of the man-woman relationship. Once the couple reconcile their differences ("sealed with a kiss" at times), then there'll be "viLaiyAdal in panjaNai" - means, "play on the bed"

    BTW, phrase by phrase translation:

    oru panjaNaiyil = on one bed
    iru paingiLikaL = two parrots (man & woman)
    oodum = 'kOvichchukkum' / fight (or 'koodum' = 'sEndhukkum' / have relation)
    viLaiyAdum = play

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    Thanks app_engine! konjam earthyaavey explain panniteenga..

    i listened to the song again.. sounds like oodum.. and imo the meaning in oodum feels better than koodum. i know manjam means bed - used in many songs. have never heard the word panjanai except in this song. lovely lovely song! thanks again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigger2 View Post
    i know manjam means bed - used in many songs. have never heard the word panjanai except in this song.
    You're right - manjam is bed.

    "panjaNai" is literally panju+aNai, i.e. panju meththai. In other words, just the cotton-filled mattress (not the whole bed)

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    Another famous song with 'panjaNai' -

    'inbamE undhan pEr peNmaiyO' from idhayakkani (MGR padam, the movie's director A Jagannathan passed away a few days back).

    One of the saraNams starts like this :

    panjaNai vENdumO? nenjaNai pOdhumE!
    (Meaning : Why need a cotton mattress / pillow? Isn't the bosom enough?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by app_engine View Post
    Another famous song with 'panjaNai' -

    'inbamE undhan pEr peNmaiyO' from idhayakkani (MGR padam, the movie's director A Jagannathan passed away a few days back).

    One of the saraNams starts like this :

    panjaNai vENdumO? nenjaNai pOdhumE!
    (Meaning : Why need a cotton mattress / pillow? Isn't the bosom enough?)


    I came across a few more songs with panjanai.

    song: iravu mudinthuvidum... mudinthaal.. (from list of PBS hits)
    lines:
    anji anji vanthavalai alli kondaye
    nenjamenum panjanaiyil palli kondaye

    song: thamthana thamthana thazham varum
    line: malligai mullaiyil panjanaio


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    movie: auto raja
    song: malare ennanna kolam

    irukkum vargangal rendu
    ulagil ippothum undu
    samaveli malaigalai thazhuvida ninaithaal vazhi ethu, mudiyathu

    what does vargangal and samaveli mean?

    Thanks!

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    vargangal = plural of vargam = classes

    samaveli = valley/lowlands
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