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    Senty (@ 167.*) on: Fri Nov 14 17:08:42 EST 2003




    song:"oru oril azhagey oruvai"
    film:"kaaka kaaka"

    "Vanjaigal than irrukkum"
    what is Vanjaigal? or vanjai





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    Raj (@ 206.*) on: Fri Nov 14 17:25:33 EST 2003




    Senty: Vaanjai = affection, love, fondness





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    . (@ 161.*) on: Mon Nov 17 14:28:52 EST 2003




    A tangential post on 'atrai':

    From: Peter Pan (@ 170.140.252.66) on: Mon Sep 30 17:08:20 EDT 2002

    To hear how to pronounce Tra, listen to SJ's 'kAtril Endhan Geetam' from Johny or 'Then MERkku paruvak kAtru' from kaRuthamma.
    To hear how NOT to pronounce 'Ra', listen to Bombay Jayshree's 'ATraith ThingaL... ORRai... koRRa poigai' portion of Iruvar's 'NaRumugayE' song.





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    interpreter (@ 4.3.*) on: Mon Nov 17 15:20:53 EST 2003




    Other "RRa" violators that I have noticed: Mano (in fact, at one time, that used to be a good way to tell his songs apart from SPB's!), Vasundhara in "Dating" (boys), going "kaRka kasadaRa kattttRavai katttttRapin . These can be excused, since these people probably did not learn Tamil formally in an academic environment. The one that has me puzzled for quite some time is SPB in "July maadham vandhaal" (pudhiya mugam), singing "kaadu malaigaL dhaesangaL kaaNboamaa kaatttRaik kaeL", given that he has always pronounced it flawlessly all these years. (I wonder if it was a dig at Mano - highly unlikely since SPB is the ultimate gentleman!) Maybe that's how Vairamuthu pronounced it - anybody remember/know how VM pronounces it in his interviews? Anybody know the history behind this?





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    Raj (@ 206.*) on: Sun Nov 23 21:15:53 EST 2003




    senty: Narumukaiye Narumukaiye song.
    I listened to the song from MIO and found the lyrics in Dhool. The song uses lot of archaic words/phrases from Sangam period. Meaning for some of the words: mukai = bud, mottu (Tamil); narumukai = good bud, fragrant bud, fragrant blossom, sweet bud; nazhikai = old tme measure used here as a minute or second. sattru nazhikai = a little while; senkani = ripe fruit or almost ripe fruit; ooriya = oozing (as from a spring},flowing or soaked (as in pickle) ; senkani ooriya vaai thiranthu = part your sweet lips ; tharalam = pearl ; kottram = sovereign, king or kingship.
    In gist:
    Oh sweet bud! Oh sweet bud! Wait a little while
    Part your sweet lips and say something beautiful!
    That day in the moonlight with water dropping from your forehead like pearls,
    Were you the one taking a dip in the sovereign's stream?
    The song is very long. If you like I can post a few lines at a time.
    Just curious? Is the movie based on a historical novel dating back to Sangam period?





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    . (@ 161.*) on: Thu Nov 27 12:31:52 EST 2003




    Raj, one Iruvar review : http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/3649/iruvarrev.html

    I assume you havent had the time to catch up on most movies. The best place I'd recommend for a review is http://www.geocities.com/bbreviews
    Very smooth style of writing, professionalism evident in his insights, easily engages the reader and brief to the right extent.





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    . (@ 161.*) on: Thu Nov 27 12:32:24 EST 2003




    However he didnt have a review of Iruvar, hence the alternate link.





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    Raj (@ 206.*) on: Thu Nov 27 17:26:00 EST 2003




    Prabhu: You are right! I have been out of India for so long I have not seen most of the movies in the last three decades. Thanks for the links. Some movie enthusiasts used to bring some movies and screen it in the local theatres. With Sun TV I am getting a very strong dose of movies. Looks like it will be a long time before I catch up. Thanks again.





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    * (@ ) on: Mon Mar 1 17:07:36 EST 2004




    hi friends, can anyone please explain the context of this song?
    Who is the lyricist? Thanks!

    allith thandha boomi annaiyallavaa
    sollith thandha vaanam thandhaiyallavaa
    aadumnaal paadumnaal thaalangal - ini
    aanandham aanandham vaarungal

    saevai seydha kaatrae paesaayoa
    shaemangal laabangal thaanoa
    palli senra kaalap paadhaigalae
    paalangal maadangal aahaa
    purandu oadum nadhimagal
    irandu karaiyum kavidhaigal
    kaniththa kaalam valarththa ninaivugal
    ilamai ninaivai isaikkum therukkal

    kaaval seyyum koattai kaanaayoa
    kangalin seedhanam thaanoa
    kalli ninra kaattil mullaigalae
    kaaranamaadhanum thaenoa
    viriyum pookkal paalangal
    visiriyaadum naanalgal
    maraththin vaerum magizhchchip padukkaiyae
    pazhaiya soagam iniyum illai

    what do the above 2 lines imply?





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    pk (@ 204.*) on: Mon Mar 1 18:26:21 EST 2004




    what does 'kalabh kadhala" mean
    from ondra renda , kaaka kaaka





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