What a shame!

[app_engine]

thamizh,
Like I said earlier, if one is subscribing to evolution as the origin of life, there's nothing called right and wrong universally - it's a question of individual choice / decision (for example, is it good to jump of a cliff or not )

OTOH, if one accepts there's a creator / maker, the whole thing goes opposite. That there's a supreme one, who forms laws and principles and humans ones better follow them for their benefits. (It's quite interesting to see that only humans have the "freedom of choice" on many things such as taste etc but especially on moral matters, while other creatures are mostly pre-programmed with instinct)

[Surya]

If a mom is a "whore" it affects her children or NOT?

If one's parents are "swingers" it affects the innocent child born to them, right?

Some innocent person is getting affected for your actions!

So I'm a Whore and A Swinger?

Ennale Mudiyala! The Flawed Logic's Gotta Stop!!

[thamiz]

If a mom is a "whore" it affects her children or NOT?

If one's parents are "swingers" it affects the innocent child born to them, right?

Some innocent person is getting affected for your actions!

So I'm a Whore and A Swinger?

Ennale Mudiyala! The Flawed Logic's Gotta Stop!!

Surya! Cut the crap and get the POINT!

[app_engine]

Sanjeevi / Surya,

By "hurt" I mean the same as murder (abortion is nothing but murder) - not the social stigma associated with illegitimate children.

Also, if a child is born out of wedlock and the parents choose to go their separate ways, there's hardly anything the child gets from them and state has to care for them.

[thamiz]

thamizh,
Like I said earlier, if one is subscribing to evolution as the origin of life, there's nothing called right and wrong universally - it's a question of individual choice / decision (for example, is it good to jump of a cliff or not )

OTOH, if one accepts there's a creator / maker, the whole thing goes opposite. That there's a supreme one, who forms laws and principles and humans ones better follow them for their benefits. (It's quite interesting to see that only humans have the "freedom of choice" on many things such as taste etc but especially on moral matters, while other creatures are mostly pre-programmed with instinct)

a-e: If one beleives evolution, then they should not have any morals or arbitrary rules or what?

WHY NOT?

[Sanjeevi]

So dont go on say, right and wrong are all debatable!

Eenga, solamon pappaiyah pozhappa keduthu vittuduveenga pOla irukkE

OK

Oru varthaiyil pathil solluga (sari / thavaru)

1) pre-martial sex
2) love marriage
3) Reservations for ladies
4) Reservations for dalits
5) Exams for students
6) Using humans to test new medicines
7) Using humans to test new animals
8) Human eating animals/fish/birds
9) Making roads and building by removing trees and erasing forests
10) oru pichaikaaranukku kasu pottutu innoru pichai karanai kandukkama porathu
11) ippadi vettithanamana kelvikku vettithanam pathil sollurathu

[app_engine]

Well, per evolution (which according to me is outrageously foolish theory and not science), nobody need to render account to any one supreme - it's all genetic game / survival of the fittest etc.

So, rules / morals etc are a question of choice.

[Surya]

If a mom is a "whore" it affects her children or NOT?

If one's parents are "swingers" it affects the innocent child born to them, right?

Some innocent person is getting affected for your actions!

So I'm a Whore and A Swinger?

Ennale Mudiyala! The Flawed Logic's Gotta Stop!!

Surya! Cut the crap and get the POINT!

It's flawed! There is no Point! This is like some wierd Sexual Butterfly Effect! If I sleep with my gf tonight, some kid in Neverland is getting molested by Michael Jackson????

It's a bit of a reach IMO.

[thamiz]

I was not TALKING about YOU! Remove yourself from the discussion! And approach the issue, please!

[Surya]

Sanjeevi / Surya,

By "hurt" I mean the same as murder (abortion is nothing but murder) - not the social stigma associated with illegitimate children.

Also, if a child is born out of wedlock and the parents choose to go their separate ways, there's hardly anything the child gets from them and state has to care for them.

If that's the only problem, aren't there plenty of laws that can be created to fix it, or make the separation better?

I Mean, do u think that in Yesterday's India (say...the eighties) the amount of orphans were all because of Conception out of wedlock? I'm actually curious... I'm not making a point there.