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    Do I owe an explanation?
    It is unfortunate my righteous anger at a foreigner deriding our country should sound as 'abuse'! When an outsider pokes his nose uninvited into our personal, domestic/family issue do we take it well, smiling and magnanimous?
    The criticism needs no rebuttal- all that is criticised is there in the open- obvious, for anyone to see! Rome was not built in seven days; India- the mega state cannot be built in half a century! Scholarly solutions are always not the remedy but patience and responsible contribution which may do the trick. Such a multi-pronged issue needs suggestions from all without prejudice: mine I have presented as charity begins at home.
    It beats me how one can remain insensitive to such 'superior', arrogant tone in a foreign visitor of the country!
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    yes, we should rise up in anger when someone has something not nice to say of our domain.

    but when the same foreigner says lovely things about it, we gloat about it.

    thats becos we are perfect ppl.
    Never argue with a fool or he will drag you down to his level and beat you at it through sheer experience!

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    But that is human nature! To feel good when praised is quite a normal reaction- in fact an encouraging incentive to perform better, at least to maintain the praiseworthy aspects.
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    May be when someone says something nice to me I must remember to pull a long face and introspect on my worthlessness!
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    Swami Nithyanandha's 'leelaigal' was caught on a tape. A tape with 'Swamiji' ( ) being intimate with an actress is being shown repeatedly on Sun News channel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viraajan
    Swami Nithyanandha's 'leelaigal' was caught on a tape. A tape with 'Swamiji' ( ) being intimate with an actress is being shown repeatedly on Sun News channel.
    Is it true?
    Charu nivetita romba pugazhuvare ..antha saamiyaara?
    பாசமலருக்கு அழாதவன் மனுஷனாடே ! - சுயம்புலிங்கம்

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavalamani pragasam
    Do I owe an explanation?
    It is unfortunate my righteous anger at a foreigner deriding our country should sound as 'abuse'! When an outsider pokes his nose uninvited into our personal, domestic/family issue do we take it well, smiling and magnanimous?
    The criticism needs no rebuttal- all that is criticised is there in the open- obvious, for anyone to see! Rome was not built in seven days; India- the mega state cannot be built in half a century! Scholarly solutions are always not the remedy but patience and responsible contribution which may do the trick. Such a multi-pronged issue needs suggestions from all without prejudice: mine I have presented as charity begins at home.
    It beats me how one can remain insensitive to such 'superior', arrogant tone in a foreign visitor of the country!
    With all due respects - Japan rose from its ashes like a Phoenix in about the same time as we have been an independent country. Agreed that Rome was not built in seven days, but it did not take half a century either.

    I would like to quote Dr. A.P.J. Abdul Kalam in this context:

    YOU say that our government is inefficient. YOU say that our laws are too old. YOU say that the municipality does not pick up the garbage. YOU say that the phones don't work, the railways are a joke, the airline is the worst in the world, mails never reach their destination. YOU say that our country has been fed to the dogs and is the absolute pits. YOU say, say and say.

    What do YOU do about it? Take a person on his way to Singapore. Give him a name - YOURS. Give him a face - YOURS. YOU walk out of the airport and you are at your International best. In Singapore you don't throw cigarette butts on the roads or eat in the stores. YOU are as proud of their Underground Links as they are. You pay $5 (approx. Rs. 60) to drive through Orchard Road (equivalent of Mahim Causeway or Pedder Road) between 5 PM and 8 PM.

    YOU comeback to the parking lot to punch your parking ticket if you have over stayed in a restaurant or a shopping mall irrespective of your status identity. In Singapore you don't say anything, DO YOU? YOU wouldn't dare to eat in public during Ramadan, in Dubai. YOU would not dare to go out without your head covered in Jeddah. YOU would not dare to buy an employee of the telephone exchange in London at 10 pounds (Rs. 650) a month to, "see to it that my STD and ISD calls are billed to someone else." YOU would not dare to speed beyond 55 mph (88 kph) in Washington and then tell the traffic cop, "Jaanta hai sala main kaun hoon (Do you know who I am?). I am so and so's son. Take your two bucks and get lost." YOU wouldn't chuck an empty coconut shell anywhere other than the garbage pail on the beaches in Australia and New Zealand. Why don't YOU spit Paan on the streets of Tokyo? Why don't YOU use examination jockeys or buy fake certificates in Boston? We are still talking of the same YOU. YOU who can respect and conform to a foreign system in other countries but cannot in your own. You who will throw papers and cigarettes on the road the moment you touch Indian ground. If you can be an involved and appreciative citizen in an alien country why cannot you be the same here in India. Once in an interview, the famous Ex-municipal commissioner of Bombay Mr.Tinaikar had a point to make. "Rich people's dogs are walked on the streets to leave their affluent droppings all over the place," he said. "And then the same people turn around to criticize and blame the authorities for inefficiency and dirty pavements. What do they expect the officers to do? Go down with a broom every time their dog feels the pressure in his bowels? In America every dog owner has to clean up after his pet has done the job. Same in Japan. Will the Indian citizen do that here?" He's right. We go to the polls to choose a government and after that forfeit all responsibility. We sit back wanting to be pampered and expect the government to do everything for us whilst our contribution is totally negative. We expect the government to clean up but we are not going to stop chucking garbage all over the place nor are we going to stop to pick a up a stray piece of paper and throw it in the bin. We expect the railways to provide clean bathrooms but we are not going to learn the proper use of bathrooms. We want Indian Airlines and Air India to provide the best of food and toiletries but we are not going to stop pilfering at the least opportunity. This applies even to the staff who is known not to pass on the service to the public. When it comes to burning social issues like those related to women, dowry, girl child and others, we make loud drawing room protestations and continue to do the reverse at home. Our excuse? "It's the whole system which has to change, how will it matter if I alone forego my sons' rights to a dowry." So who's going to change the system? What does a system consist of? Very conveniently for us it consists of our neighbors, other households, other cities, other communities and the government. But definitely not me and YOU. When it comes to us actually making a positive contribution to the system we lock ourselves along with our families into a safe cocoon and look into the distance at countries far away and wait for a Mr. Clean to come along & work miracles for us with a majestic sweep of his hand. Or we leave the country and run away. Like lazy cowards hounded by our fears we run to America to bask in their glory and praise their system. When New York becomes insecure we run to England. When England experiences unemployment, we take the next flight out to the Gulf. When the Gulf is war struck, we demand to be rescued and brought home by the Indian government. Everybody is out to abuse and rape the country. Nobody thinks of feeding the system. Our conscience is mortgaged to money.

    Dear Indians, The article is highly thought inductive, calls for a great deal of introspection and pricks one's conscience too....I am echoing J.F. Kennedy's words to his fellow Americans to relate to Indians.....

    "ASK WHAT WE CAN DO FOR INDIA AND DO WHAT HAS TO BE DONE TO MAKE INDIA WHAT AMERICA AND OTHER WESTERN COUNTRIES ARE TODAY"

    Lets do what India needs from us.

    I hope we do not consider our ex-president as an outsider too. It does not matter who points out our flaws. As a matter of fact, it is shameful that it takes an outsider to point out to us, what is happening right under our noses. It is akin to visiting people who live close to the airport or a garbage dump; We, the visitors, are overwhelmed by the noise / stench. Those who live there seem to have gotten used to it and could not care less.

    No offense meant to anyone. Just my 0.02 paise.

    Cheers,

    Rajan
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    பாசமலருக்கு அழாதவன் மனுஷனாடே ! - சுயம்புலிங்கம்

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe
    Quote Originally Posted by viraajan
    Swami Nithyanandha's 'leelaigal' was caught on a tape. A tape with 'Swamiji' ( ) being intimate with an actress is being shown repeatedly on Sun News channel.
    Is it true?
    Charu nivetita romba pugazhuvare ..antha saamiyaara?
    Valumburi John filed a complaint against this guy few years ago. Enakku romba naalave indha aal mela oru doubt

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
    Quote Originally Posted by joe
    Quote Originally Posted by viraajan
    Swami Nithyanandha's 'leelaigal' was caught on a tape. A tape with 'Swamiji' ( ) being intimate with an actress is being shown repeatedly on Sun News channel.
    Is it true?
    Charu nivetita romba pugazhuvare ..antha saamiyaara?
    Valumburi John filed a complaint against this guy few years ago. Enakku romba naalave indha aal mela oru doubt
    Joe, yeah. True They are showing recorded videos. They even said that they are telecasting this after confirming that the man in the video is Nithyanandha.

    LM, ever since I saw his photos and i read his writing in Kumudham (3-4 years ago), i had been telling my family that he is not a good man. He doesn't look like a man who is deep into spirituality!
    யுவன் இசை ராஜா...

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