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    A Brief Study on the Significance & Practices in respect of Thaali and on Happy Married Life among Tamils





    Thaali - a symbol of Marital Status

    “Thaali” in (Tamil) or Mangalyam or “Mangala Sutra” in (Sanskrit) - among Tamils and Indians is a "symbol" that signifies to the World the “Bond” into which a Man and a Women have entered into - by way of love marriage or arranged marriage - with “mutual understanding” and “mutual acceptance” of each other “as they are” (Iru Manam Sernththa Thirumanam), with further promises of "loving and caring for each other" and "in being faithful to their mutual bond in married life" - “at all times” and “under all circumstances” throughout their life time, with subsequent adjustments among themselves both giving-in to each other's "ways", "values", and "likings"- that are found rightious, and in satisfying each other's natural - biological needs from time to time, and in the creation of off-springs in continuation of their generation.

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    The Video/Songs at the following URLs, are on Young Couples "in love" long before their Marriages are fixed





    The Video/Song at the following URL, is on the dreams of an on coming "Marriage Ceremony" and on the "Love Life" thereafter among Young Couples



    The Video at the following URL, leads to a Song that showers Blessings on the Bride & Groom for a Happy Married Life



    The Videos at the following URLs, leads to Songs on the Love Life of Young Couples after their Marriage

    http://download.tamiltunes.com/songs...vaj,reshmi.mp3 "Aayirum Aandukal" Song by Bharatwaj & Reshmi



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    In TamilNadu the earliest forms of "Thaali" was a piece of Ka-rhi Manjal (not Kasturi Manjal), tied with a piece of Manjal Kayiru (a white string applied with Ka-rhi Manjal paste).

    Subsequently the “Ka-rhi Manjal piece – Thaali” was replaced by a “small pendent type Gold – Thaali” inscribed with religious symbols, hanging from the same Manjal Kayiru.

    To those who could afford, the Manjal Kayiru too became a Gold Kayiru known as Kodi. Since the Gold Thaali was hung from the Gold Kodi it was also known as the “Thaalikkodi.”

    However whether it is a Manjal piece Thaali or a Gold Thaali - in a Manjal Kayiru, or a Gold Thaali - in a Gold Kodi - socially Thaali avoids the unwanted glances, unwanted moves and unwanted remarks by the 'other unscrupulous men' at Married Women wearing them. According to Tamil traditions the Thaali alerts all men to 'respect and give much dignity' to the women who wears them.


    Present unfortunate Practices in respect of Thaali

    Today we observe a new trend among "some" Tamil Women especially those wearing gold Thaali with gold Kodi, to keep them in the Bank Vaults and be without them while going to work or on their normal social visits to their Friends and Relatives.

    Only when they have to attend special functions such as Weddings of others etc, they take them from their Bank Vaults, wear for the occasion and then keep them back again in their Bank Vaults.

    But the agony of the whole issue is that there are some young Women who remove the Thaali "just within very few days" after their Wedding and keep them in the Bank Vaults.

    This 'nullifies the very significance of the Thaali' and reverence with which they were tied by the Men around the neck of their 'to be Wives' - even after the couples have mutually consented and accepted each other whole heartedly before their marriage - at the Religious Rituals witnessed by many of their Family Members, Relatives & Friends, conducted on the grand occasion of their “Ceremonial Wedding Function” incurring much financial expenses.


    Forced tying of Thaali by Men on Women

    But a "Thaali" tied "by force" by a Man on his own - on a Woman without her or her Parent’s whole hearted consent and acceptance - should not be given its "Symbolic Reverence of Matrimony", but just thrown away into the “dustbin”.

    A woman should not think such "Thaali" tied forcibly around her neck has put an end to her bright happy life she dreamt, and that it is a “padlock” set on her to be bound to a totally unaccepted man of her life - entirely against her or her Parent’s wishes and that her dream world has come to an end, but break the ‘padlock’ by throwing away the "Thaali" and declare herself free, unless she is legally engaged to him, in which case she has to free herself by way of legal procedures.


    Authorities assumed by the Husbands, Wifes & In-Laws on the strength of the Thaali

    It is to be noted that Thaalikkodi is not a "symbol" that gives "authority" to the Husbands to hurt their Wives mentally and physically, illtreat and abuse them, to the vims and fancies that pleases these Husbands, suppressing the freedom of acts and even the speech - of their Wives" as seen in many Tamil Families.

    Also the Thaalikkodi tied by the Husband around their Wife's neck doesnot provide any privilege or authority to the Husband's Mother or Sisters - to control, enslave, harrass, order, or physically or mentally hurt his Wife as seen in some Tamil Families of date.

    The Thaalikkodi tied around the Wife's neck "doesnot give any authority" to the Husband's - Mother and Father from "restraining"(bullying) the Daughter-in-Law from going to see her Parents, stating that once married she must always think in terms of the "Puhuntha Veedu" and not the "Pirantha Veedu", and her Parents too from visiting frequently the In-Law's place to see their Daughter. (This is an acute social problem always met in Koottu Kudumbams in Tamil Families).

    In this modern age it is much recommended for the Husband and Wife to 'plan to stay seperately on their own' immediately after their marriage - where the Husband and Wife have the freedom in visiting their repective Parents whenever they wish, and the both side Parents too could freely visit their daughter's or son's residence with no restrictions from either side "Sammanthi" (In-Laws), and be entertained very well equally.

    Equally the Wedlock with the tying of the Thaali doesnot provide any authority to the "Husband or Wife" too - among themselves to restrict each other's desire to visit their respective Parents whenever they so desire. It should be noted that how important his Parents become to the Husband, so is of 'great importance' her Parents become to the Wife. The Husband's and Wife's love especially for their 'respective Mothers' are very much fused in their blood - and 'each other' should not try to break this love. This is much reflected in the YouTube Video, lead to by the following URL.



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    Also the "Thaali" tied by the Husband around the Wife's neck doesnot give any power or authority to the Wife - to dominate, illtreat or be harsh to her Husband's Father, Mother, Brothers and Sisters to her own vims and fancies or on the 'unethical advices' given by others, and prevent her Husband from mingling as before with his own Family Members and helping them at their hour of need. "This also applies vice-versa to the Husband".

    Mutual adjustments among newly Married Couples are vital for Happy and Successful marriage

    Be it a Love Marriage or an Arranged Marriage the indifferences among the Young Couples always crop up within the first year of their Marriage, as each of them is a "different personality" brought up by Parents of different social status and nurtured in different social environments having different social values of life. Hence it is very essential that after their Marriage there be subsequent adjustments among themselves - by "both giving in to each other's "ways" "values" and "likings" - that are found rightious" to make up a happy, successful, and lasting marriage.


    However in the modern days it is 'much advisable' for the Parents of Brides to visit their Daughters very frequently in the first year of marriage - whether the Couples are staying on their own or with the Groom's Parents - either with 'goodwil' or 'by force' (in instances where some Grooms or their Parents {Sammanthis} resists the frequent visits of the Bride's parents to see their Daughters) - to ensure the Couples have adjusted among themselves in their 'ways' and 'values' leading to a happy Married Life.

    This is essential especially in these days to prevent "some" of the prospective Grooms who have gone far beyond the traditional norms of rightious life before marriage - addicted to drugs, hard drinks, womanising, suspicious minded, depressed minded or mere psycos who have successfully married their Brides in connivance with their own Parents hiding their true face and faults - from harrassing and ill-treating the Brides after marriage, especially the ones "with no strong mind" to battle themselves against the "evils and misery" under these unscruplus Grooms, suffering in silence to themselves with much tension, misery and mental trauma
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    This truth of Married Life is also portrayed in the Video at the following URL:






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    Disposal of Thaali at the time of Divorce & Death of the Husband

    Once a Husband and a Wife are legally “divorced” under any circumstances, the Thaali should be rightly be given back to her ex-Husband.

    If the Thaali is with the Wife after divorce, it keeps on reminding her of the past - miserable days and unhappy events - with her ex-Husband, and make her remain very heartbroken, without her accepting the reality and forgeting the past, and forging a new and a happy life for herself.

    Also it is a sense of pride to a women to reject the "Symbol" of her matrimony and send it back to her ex-husband, when she herself is rejected by him for ever, and legally divorced.

    If the Husband in a Family dies it is customory that the Wife removes the Thaali “on her own” at the Funeral Ceremony and kept on the dead body of the Husband as a mark of respect to him who tied the Thaali on her, and later taken and kept in the safe custody of herself. The Nasty “Village Practices” in some areas of Tamil Nadu where the Female Relatives forcibly plucking the Thaali from the Wives neck and breaking of the Bangles should be done away with in these modern days.

    If the Husband in a “united happy family” dies, there are some traditions still prevailing, that the Wife does not sell out the Thaali, but melt same and make a ring, chain etc and hand it over to their daughter or son, to ensure the core of the "Symbol" of their love to each other and happy married life for years, should not go into the others hands, but be within the family.

    Trust the foregoing will kindle the thinking of many on the significance of the Thaali.

    Some advises from the great Tamil Sage/Poet Thiruvalluvar of the Third Sangam period Thamil Nadu, to Married Couples on "Home Life" and on "Life Partner" is as below:

    இல்வாழ்க்கை

    இல்வாழ்வான் என்பான் இயல்புடைய மூவர்க்கும்
    நல்லாற்றின் நின்ற துணை. 41

    துறந்தார்க்கும் துவ்வாதவர்க்கும் இறந்தார்க்கும்
    இல்வாழ்வான் என்பான் துணை. 42

    தென்புலத்தார் தெய்வம் விருந்தொக்கல் தானென்றாங்கு
    ஐம்புலத்தாறு ஓம்பல் தலை. 43

    பழியஞ்சிப் பாத்தூண் உடைத்தாயின் வாழ்க்கை
    வழியெஞ்சல் எஞ்ஞான்றும் இல். 44

    அன்பும் அறனும் உடைத்தாயின் இல்வாழ்க்கை
    பண்பும் பயனும் அது. 45

    அறத்தாற்றின் இல்வாழ்க்கை ஆற்றின் புறத்தாற்றில்
    போஒய்ப் பெறுவ தெவன்? 46

    இயல்பினான் இல்வாழ்க்கை வாழ்பவன் என்பான்
    முயல்வாருள் எல்லாம் தலை. 47

    ஆற்றின் ஒழுக் கி அறனிழுக்கா இல்வாழ் க்கை
    நோற்பாரின் நோன்மை உடைத்து. 48

    அறன் எனப் பட்டதே இல்வாழ்க்கை அஃதும்
    பிறன்பழிப்ப தில்லாயின் நன்று. 49

    வையத்துள் வாழ்வாங்கு வாழ்பவன் வான்உநற்யும்
    தெய்வத்துள் வைக்கப் படும். 50

    வாழ்க்கைத் துணைநலம்

    மனைக்தக்க மாண்புடையள் ஆகித்தற் கொண்டான்
    வளத்தக்காள் வாழ்க்கைத் துணை. 51

    மனைமாட்சி இல்லாள்கண் இல்லாயின் வாழ்க்கை
    எனைமாட்சித் தாயினும் இல். 52

    இல்லதென் இல்லவள் மாண்பானால் உள்ளதென்
    இல்லவள் மாணாக் கடை? 53

    பெண்ணின் பெருந்தக்க யாவுள கற்பென்னும்
    திண்மைஉண் டாகப் பெறின். 54

    தெய்வம் தொழாஅள் கொழுநன் தொழுதெழுவாள்
    பெய்யெனப் பெய்பு ம் மழை. 55

    தற்காத்துத் தற்கொண்டாற் பேணித் தகைசான்ற
    சொற்காத்துச் சோர்விலாள் பெண். 56

    சிறைகாக்கும் காப்பெவன் செய்யும் மகளிர்
    நிறைகாக்கும் காப்பே தலை. 57

    பெற்றாற் பெறின்பெறுவர் பெண்டிர் பெருஞ்சிறப்புப்
    புத்தேளிர் வாழும் உலகு. 58

    புகழ்புரிந்த இல்லிலோர்க்கு இல்லை இகழ்வார்முன்
    ஏறுபோல் பீடு நடை. 59

    மங்கலம் என்ப மனைமாட்சி மற்று அதன்
    நன்கலம் நன்மக்கட் பேறு.

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    Great job, but why brief?
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    Great! In this age of changing perspectives and new 'liberated' minds a courageous article!!!
    I recall a scene in an old film I saw as a kid: T.M.Mathuram with some revolutionary anger toys with the idea of removing her thaali and N.S.K. sings 'thaali peNNukku vEli'. There is profound truth in this line which is not realised by the mewly emancipated womenkind!
    I'm used to be being branded asan old-fashioned, orthodox nag!!! Least bothered about it. Not being a sentimental fool to believe fully thaali protects husband's life and other such exaggerated sanctity about thaali I nevertheless am sensible enough to acknowledge the 'extra' significance of thaali which no other ornament shares in giving meaning, dignity and sanction to a couple's standing in society. But alas, the society is fast disintegrating!
    I also recall another incident, a bit comic and practical: long ago when we were living in the housing unit quarters ladies of our block assembled on the eve of Margazi 1st to discuss plans for drawing kOlam in front of our block. The young lady across our door related with humour how her husband gave her permission to join the fun but on one condition:'iruttula keeza iRangi kOlam pOdappORathunnaa thaaliyai kazatti vachchittu thaaraaLamaa pOyittu vaa'. Words of wisdom weighing in gold!!!
    The fashion of kal mugappu introduced in the small screen serials some years ago is fast catching up!!!(including me! )
    Eager to watch the trends of the world & to nurture in the youth who carry the future world on their shoulders a right sense of values.

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    Thanks for whoever who has inserted the colour photo in my thread, which was kept open by me for the further editing. Is it Mr NOV ????

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    Yes it is, Mr. Virarajendra
    Pls go ahead and edit as you deem fit.
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    I love the post, VR.
    I suppose I am quite old fashinoned - i love the thaalikodi and don't believe in removing it and putting it on for occasions but i know of people who do even after 20 years of marriage . My mom wore it on manjal jayiru but she got allergic to the manjal and changed it to kodi. I did too as I am allergic to manjal but am contented with what i have now...

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    Allergy to manjaL is understandable- a couple of my close relatives are also allergic to it. But 'allergy' to the concept of wearing thaali is ununderstandable to me!
    Eager to watch the trends of the world & to nurture in the youth who carry the future world on their shoulders a right sense of values.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavalamani pragasam
    Allergy to manjaL is understandable- a couple of my close relatives are also allergic to it. But 'allergy' to the concept of wearing thaali is ununderstandable to me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavalamani pragasam
    Allergy to manjaL is understandable- a couple of my close relatives are also allergic to it. But 'allergy' to the concept of wearing thaali is ununderstandable to me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NM
    and changed it to kodi. I did too as I am allergic to manjal but am contented with what i have now...
    You should go for platinum kodi !
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