Raga of Songs - 2 !

**Sureshs65** · 19th January 2010, 07:43 PM

Bala,

I think it is Vakulabaranam. I use my logic of the raga sounding like Mayamalavagowla but not Mayamalavagowla hence Vakulabaranam

Not great logic I know. The feel is that of Mayamalavagowla, which is also used in Islamic music. So whenever there is an Islamic song in films you get to hear Mayamalavagowla or Panthuvarali, both of which are popular in music of middle east.

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**Bala (Karthik)** · 19th January 2010, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by Sureshs65

Bala,

I think it is Vakulabaranam. I use my logic of the raga sounding like Mayamalavagowla but not Mayamalavagowla hence Vakulabaranam

Not great logic I know. The feel is that of Mayamalavagowla, which is also used in Islamic music. So whenever there is an Islamic song in films you get to hear Mayamalavagowla or Panthuvarali, both of which are popular in music of middle east.

I was confused whether this song was in Vakulabharanam or Sindhu Bhairavi (renduthukkum sammandhame illai-ngareengala

) but couldn't say for sure (even for a lay listener like me, Sindhu Bhairavi is easy to spot but indha paatula correct a solla mudiyala)

**vel** · 20th January 2010, 10:35 AM

Bala, sindhubahiravi, thodi, vakulabharanam notes are close - that might explain your confusion. But you will see the difference as you hear more songs in each of these scales. You will then see they are worlds apart when it comes to feel...

Sindhu Bhairavi | S R2 G2 M1 P D1 N2 S | S N2 D1 P M1 G2 R1 S

Thodi | S R1 G2 M1 P D1 N2 S | S N2 D1 P M1 G2 R1 S

Vakulabharanam | S R1 G3 M1 P D1 N2 S | S N2 D1 P M1 G3 R1 S

**baroque** · 20th January 2010, 01:17 PM

இரும்புகோட்டை முரட்டுசிங்கம்
http://www.raaga.com/player4/?id=180...64196355340097
கண்ணா நீ ....பாம்பே ஜெயஸ்ரீ & ஸ்ரீநிவாஸ் ...G.V.P .....
ராகம் மதுகௌன்ஸ்.

listen to the keerthanai & aalapana.
pantala raajakumaara ....

http://www.musicindiaonline.com/p/x/...Mx9.As1NMvHdW/

MIO for the reference keerthanai.

vinatha.

**baroque** · 20th January 2010, 11:24 PM

Very nice pathos from Yuvan in Raga Ahir bhairavi (Carnatic - chakravagam)

ஊரு நல்ல ஊரு.....இளையராஜா ......கோவா ...யுவன் ஷங்கர் ராஜா
loving the rag,

please check out some of the finest Indian cinema treats in this rag.

sola baras ki....L.P
Zindagi ko sanvarana ....jaidev
nee paadhi naan.....IR
Chalo Man Jayen Ghar Aapne ... salil

vinatha.

**tvsankar** · 21st January 2010, 02:24 AM

kanyakumari - song
which raaga is this??

http://www.chitramala.com/audio-song...-hits-726.html

**Bala (Karthik)** · 21st January 2010, 11:34 AM

Thanks Vel!

**vel** · 25th January 2010, 11:31 AM

listened to unnai vittal from jaganmohini - seems to be natabhairavi - since we have not heard many classical natabhairavis in film music, i think it is not easily visible or noticeable to our ears....

in the same film, poothadhu poovu is keeravani without the rishabham, which is called bhargavi ...hey raasathi rossappu from en uyir thozhan is the same scale...Bhargavi, S G2 M1 P D1 N3 S I S N3 D1 P M1 G2 S, (Keeravani Sans Ri2 !)

kattikitta seems shankarabharanam with some scale changes here and there...

nilavu varum neram is basically karaharapriya..though the fleeting use of some notes make one think it is madhyamavathi, a janya raga of Karaharapriya...

**tvsankar** · 25th January 2010, 11:49 AM

Vel,
thanks for the clarification.

as per ur words,
adhanala dhan - thumburu - Nilavu varum Neram - Madhyamavathi madhiri iruku nu sonnaga nu nenaikaren....

i love IR's Madhyamavathi tooooooooooooo much.........

**tvsankar** · 25th January 2010, 06:28 PM

Kadhalil maatamal - MVD - paarvathi ennai paradi

enna ragam?

starting ludes - Hameer kalyan madhiri iruku
ana

stanza - Dhujavandhi madhiri irukae....