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    Senior Member Veteran Hubber VENKIRAJA's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by kid-glove
    Stuff in 2001 was put together by years of background work done by Kubrick with NASA experts. He employed real engineers to experiment and recreate the backdrop with some sense of plausibility. Speculations are American govt, & Nasa had funded Kubrick to do this film as a propaganda machine for people believing into their moon/space travel which would later be staged by Kubrick in film studios.

    Some of the mechanical sets, or authentic makeup for the Apes, for example, were designed to perfection. He outdid everything prior to this and IMO, will stand the test of time as the pinnacle of the genre. Revamped the genre when it was going through a phase of shoddy production values, plastic aliens and parodies of themes. He made something that works on one unassuming simplification - visual images accompanied with music that works like a silent musical. The film could be seen and experienced solely like a symphony.

    Then there is a question of authenticity in this experience, the logical step was to not show the Alien. This, IMO, is sheer genius. We talk about genre subversions, like Reservoir dogs being a heist film without heist, and so on. But this is something else. The idea of far-evolved superior species watching, guiding, and monitoring our cosmical-evolution is a potent one. Yet, you are not allowed to fixate aliens into fixed dimensions, an image that would ultimately be World-ly when it could be anything but that. Thus arrived the "Monolith", as mysteriously bland as a visualized simulacrum of an 'Alien'. The implanting of Monolith at various evolutionary junctions of Humans is to be seen (& is shown in the film) from bird's eye view and not from a human standpoint POV (Kubrick never shows the "Monolith" through eyes of primitive apes or the fully developed human but placed among the vicinage.). The lack of first-person perspective and the resulting emotional insulation/detachment is absolutely vital IMO, to speculate on a wider, interesting and 'grander' concept. So, "Enna solla vareenga" I think not. Although the suggestions and subliminal interpretations had feigned such an image.

    Sticking to innovativeness(most of which remains discreet) and proportionate quality, it out scales almost all digial recreations since then. CGI with green screen was developed by Lucas, which to be honest is a big innovation and changed cinema forever. With limitless potential to provide 'grandness'. But then, as Bowman encounters the Jupiter monolith which triggers a Stargate sequence that eventually ports him into another side of universe. Entrapped by the human prison or zoo if you will, & guarded by Alien (who we still don't see) till his death. The talent in canvassing this, without much distortion, into images is cinematic genius.

    Lucas had been inspired by 2001 as a kid. Spielberg as well. Such genre masters, Sci-Fi revolutionists concede 2001 to be mind-blowingly put together, improbable & inconceivable without a genius. A landmark moment that redefined and expanded the genre. As was "Paths of Glory" to War, "Barry Lyndon" to Period piece, "Lolita" to romance, "Dr,Strangelove" to cold-war, "Shining" to horror, "A clockwork Orange" to ultraviolence.
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    * Aliens, picturised with eyes and nose, or squary, bloby faces and walking on wheels.... eww! Or, say God picturised with a green parrot, on a giant snake, with 6 heads, with wavy hair and a greek beard... Phew!

    * Visualisation of some things such as 'moonwalk' or space diet was sloppy, yet that jogging scene and ejecting one cosmo into outer space was total devastation!

    * Complementary music, rightly pointed out. Ditto. The girls hostel was in splits in my previous college when they heard that telephone beep style Beeeeeeeeem sound and were completely freaked out.

    * The climax scene gives a total new perspective to the first act and can in turn provide multiple perspectives about the human zoo itself. Even Kubrick points it out in one of his 13 interviews or something. In a straight one-time viewing and a quick recap the simple meaning we derive itself is groundbreaking to say the least.

    * And, even I heard about that conspiracy. True?

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    True, the closing shot of 2001 gives scope for multiple conclusions.

    I don't think the conspiracy is true. It's just too cinematic in itself.
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    http://movies.rediff.com/report/2009...h-it-in-3d.htm

    Avatar is a stunning achievement, the definitive big-screen event of our generation. Words seem hopelessly inadequate to try and capture its spectacular three-dimensional glory, but suffice it to say that it sucks you in and immerses you smack bang into a whole new world, giving you a cinematic experience so goddamned rich it becomes impossible to assess it as a mere movie. Watch this, and watch it in 3D. Trust me.
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    Bad start, given the hype.
    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/ente...5-million.html

    Looks like "The Dark Knight" opening record is going to stay. But this one should do very well in the long run.

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    I just watched the movie. It worths all its hype. WOM is going to be great for this movie.

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    Stunning visuals and action sequences. But the premise is quite simple and doesn't feel like an epic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tamizharasan
    Star wars was way ahead of its times when it was released. I am not really sure how many of us are qualified to talk about that. My american colleagues said that they were stunned when they watched the movie for first time on theatres. It is not fair to compare star wars with recent movies.

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    Just to clarify, by '2001' we refer to a film called '2001 A Space Odyssey'. If already seen, please ignore everything, if not, please do 'experience it' and let us know....
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