2012: The Mayan Calendar Vs Hindu eschatology

[Raghu]

The 2012 phenomenon comprises a range of eschatological beliefs and proposals, which posit that cataclysmic or transformative events will occur on December 21 or December 23, 2012, which is said to be the end-date of a 5,125-year-long Mayan Long Count calendar. These beliefs may derive in part from archaeoastronomical speculation, alternative interpretations of mythology, numerological constructions, or alleged prophecies from extraterrestrial beings.

A New Age interpretation of this transition posits that, during this time, the planet and its inhabitants may undergo a positive physical or spiritual transformation, and that 2012 may mark the beginning of a new era. Conversely, some believe that the 2012 date marks the beginning of an apocalypse. Both ideas have been disseminated in numerous books and TV documentaries, and have spread around the world through websites and discussion groups.

Scholars of various stripes have disputed the idea that a catastrophe will happen in 2012, suggesting that predictions of impending doom are found neither in classic Maya accounts nor in contemporary science. Mainstream Mayanist scholars argue that the idea that the Long Count calendar "ends" in 2012 misrepresents Maya history. To the modern Maya, 2012 is largely irrelevant, and classic Maya sources on the subject are scarce and contradictory, suggesting that there was little if any universal agreement among them about what, if anything, the date might mean.

Meanwhile, astronomers and other natural scientists have rejected the apocalyptic forecasts, on the grounds that the anticipated events are precluded by astronomical observations, or are unsubstantiated by the predictions that have been generated from these findings. NASA likens fears about 2012 to those about the Y2K bug in the late 1990s, suggesting that an adequate analysis should stem fears of disaster.

Planet Nibiru

Proponents of a Nibiru collision claim that a planet, called Nibiru or Planet X, will collide with or pass by Earth in that year. This idea, which has been circulating since 1995 in New Age circles and initially slated the event for 2003, is based on claims of channeling from alien species and has been widely ridiculed .Astronomers calculate that such an object so close to Earth would be visible to anyone looking up at the night sky.

Hindu eschatology

Contemporary Hindu eschatology is linked in the Vaishnavite tradition to the figure of Kalki, or the tenth and last avatar of Vishnu before the age draws to a close, and Lord Shiva (eashwara) simultaneously dissolves and regenerates the universe.
Most Hindus acknowledge as part of their cosmology that we are living in the Kali Yuga literally "age of darkness", the last of four periods (Yuga) that make up the current age. Each period has seen a successive degeneration in the moral order and character of human beings, to the point that in the Kali Yuga where quarrel and hypocrisy are prevalent. Often, the invocation of Kaliyuga denotes a certain helplessness in the face of the horrors and suffering of the human condition and a nostalgia for a golden past or a future salvation.
However, Hindu conceptions of time, like those found in other non-Western traditions, is cyclical in that one age may end but another will always begin. As such, the cycle of birth, growth, decay, death, and renewal at the individual level finds its echo in the cosmic order of all things, yet affected by the vagaries of the comings and goings of divine interventions in the Vaishnavite belief.
Most Hindus believe that Lord Shiva (eashwara) will destroy the world at the end of the kalpa. Some Shaivites hold the view that he is incessantly destroying and creating the world.

what are your vies on this please?
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[skanthan]

No one knows when the world is going to end and really, pleople should just leave it up to God. Every 5 - 10 years, 100 years, it is the same thing. Some scientists "predict" the world will end on so and so day of so and so month in so and so year. People have "visions" that "prove" what the scieentists and astronomers are saying is true and then some religious fanatics pick it up and start using it as a means to frighten people.

First, from what I remember, there was 1993, then, 2000, Friday, May 5th at 5:05 AM in 2000, then 2006 and lastly, December 21 - 23 of 2012. All those years/dates from 1993 to now passed without notice. The same will happen in 2012. It will come and go like any other year. Then 2013, 2014, 2015 and so on so forth.

I think that the most that will happen over the next few decades is things like, if they do, Russia will will lose more territiory, ie: it will be broken up to form new countries, Sinkiang Uighur and Tibet will declare independence from China, Inner Mongolia will break away from China and become part of Mongolia proper, new technology will be invented, pollution will be brought down and so many other changes. That's it.

[PARAMASHIVAN]

Looking at the natural disaster, Japanese Tsunami, Indonesaian Tsunami, Haiti Earth quake, Pakistan Earthquake, Bangldesh Floods,...etc All an indication as to what is coming soon !

[anbu_kathir]

Looking at the natural disaster, Japanese Tsunami, Indonesaian Tsunami, Haiti Earth quake, Pakistan Earthquake, Bangldesh Floods,...etc All an indication as to what is coming soon !

Reminds me of the Second coming :P - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Coming_of_Christ.

Mankind is but a blip in the evolution of Life on this planet, so is the earth in the galaxy, so is the galaxy in this Universe. Each will go one day or another, and whatever is left will move on.

[PARAMASHIVAN]

Kathir

That is Exactly what Hinduism says, Creation , Preservation and destruction, then creation , preservation, destruction. This is an endless Cycle

[anbu_kathir]

Kathir

That is Exactly what Hinduism says, Creation , Preservation and destruction, then creation , preservation, destruction. This is an endless Cycle

Na illainnu sollalayE. Doesn't matter-nnu dhaan sonnEn.

[skanthan]

Looking at the natural disaster, Japanese Tsunami, Indonesaian Tsunami, Haiti Earth quake, Pakistan Earthquake, Bangldesh Floods,...etc All an indication as to what is coming soon !

I have a new prediction. 2013 is the year people will stop talking about the Mayan calendar.

[PARAMASHIVAN]

I have a new prediction. 2013 is the year people will stop talking about the Mayan calendar.

Mr Skanthavelu Nadarajah

No need to to be sarcastic, some predictions do happen!

[skanthan]

Mr Skanthavelu Nadarajah

No need to to be sarcastic, some predictions do happen!

Okay, sorry! I couldn't help myself.

[PARAMASHIVAN]

I find lots of Similarities in Mayan Rituals and the Hindu Rituals. In fact some studies conclude that the Mayan philosophies evolved from Hindu philosophies /Beliefs and rituals.