Swine Flu Outbreak

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Now, r_kk, you've raised another point, of people "losing wealth".

I don't think this applies to Homeopathy at all From what I've seen in Kerala (where this practice has flourished), it's one of the least expensive treatments available.

And for people with certain chronic sickness with absolutely no improvement after spending tons of money with allopathy (except temporary calming down and in some cases progressive worsening of the situation even - like certain docs resorting to steroids), that was one of the incentives to switch to homeo.

So, when we discuss purely on moola, homeo will outscore most other systems with ROI - i.e. for whichever cases it got proved to work

Disclaimer : My this post is not to recommend delaying the "correct" treatment for a specific ailment that CANNOT be cured by homeo, simply because it's cheap and affordable. Rush to emergency where needed

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Want to post another important personal experience where homeo helped tremendously.

As you could've guessed from my posts in this thread, homeo is obviously not the FIRST choice for my family as I take them to regular hospitals (now in U.S., I haven't even located any homeo doc - except that I've seen some of those medicine in vitamin shoppe). And for me as an individual, I take treatment only when it's absolutely necessary - otherwise "தூய காற்றும் நன்னீரும், சுண்டப்பசித்த பின் உணவும்" technology only

When nothing worked for my wife's nausea during first pregnancy in India - she could hardly eat any and had to be even administered drips often - a caring friend suggested homeo and though utterly sceptical, I had no other way but to give it a try. And it worked miraculously.

The 2nd pregnancy is here in U.S. and the situation was worse. Tried all kinds of medicines the hospital recommended (one of the top names in U.S.) and it was a struggle. Guess what - I phoned up my friend in Palakkad and requested to him to go to the same doc, get the miracle medicine and air mail. It DID work and she could start eating and regained most of the lost strength and delivered normally (She visited the homeopath in his 70's during a subsequent India trip with the baby and thanked him for the timely help).

It's not that we didn't try the "scientifically proven glorious allopathy" p is in the p

[r_kk]

app_engine,
next time, in case if you are going for another child (!), just give sugar globes soaked in the solvent generally used for homeopathy without any homeopathic dilution and see (without telling to your wife!).

Then till now I haven't talked about allopathy (first time I am using this word in this thread). I also like you (தூய காற்றும் நன்னீரும், சுண்டப்பசித்த பின் உணவும்" technology only) and allow body to recover as much as possible and then go to doctor when it is really necessary.

There a plenty of demerits with Allopathy and so called vaccination. Hundreds of article can be written against misuse of antibiotics, vaccines and commercialising medical profession. But still we have to accept that it had doubled the average Indian life expectance (1930: 32 years, 2009: 64 years) and prevented world children mortality in large extend.

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I completely agree with the effect vaccinations & antibiotics had / have on prevention of mortality and increase of average life expectancy.

I'm certainly not against that neither do I question the treatment methods as all of us are beneficieries

It's just that I don't dismiss any form of treatment simply based on campaign by competitors.

Ofcourse main aspects of the treatment should be possible to explain "as far as possible" with the current proven science. However, given the fact that science cannot explain EVERYTHING, we'll have to give it to certain treatments the benefit of "future discoveries", as long as they alleviate sicknesses at present

About the Avogadro thingy, I didn't invest time to study. While that approach may disprove certain parts of the homeo philosophy, it may not disprove as a whole. For example, what if there is "no or minimal dilution" for a specific drug / chemical and it works fine for a set of illnesses at that potency level?

We don't have to take the extreme dilution levels (a drop in ganga kind) for every case / sickness. That way, the system needn't stray from science upto a point at least

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Avogadro’s constant is very simple and clear. Number of molecules in a same size container of two different gases is same, at same temperature and pressure.

If dilution principle has to be true, just to trace the medical substance in 12C and 13C homeopathic remedy, we need the following quantity of ideal water (no impurities, water without any trace of so called water memory).

12C: equivalent to adding pinch of salt in entire South and North Atlantic Ocean
13C: One third of a drop of original substance diluted into all the water on earth

So, my comment in adding 1 drop of substance in Gangodri and taking a drop at Haridwar is not enough to create even 10C!

Unfortunately Samuel Hahnemann (1755-1843) was published his “Organon der Rationellen Heilkunde” in 1810, just one year before the publication of hypothesis by Physicist Amadeo Avogadro (1776-1856)

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http://www.dinamalar.com/Pothunewsde...News_id=17495#

Cow colostrum (சீம்பால்) seems to be building up resistance against swine flu, as per this news.

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On homeopathy :
http://www.kulisz.com/how_does_homeopathy_work.htm

This article seems to agree with my observation on avogadro thingy (i.e. for relatively higher concentrations / low potency, there's explanation. For the controversial one (drop in ganga stuff), though there's no explanation as of the time of this article, similar is the condition for many other traditional drugs as well it seems)

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http://ibnlive.in.com/news/who-exagg...7.html?from=tn

New Delhi: Was the swine flu scare exaggerated to benefit pharma companies?


Evidence has surfaced that several members of the World Health Organisation's (WHO) vaccine board - which pushed countries to buy the H1N1 vaccine - have had significant ties with pharma companies.


Documents acquired through the Danish Freedom of Information Act revealed that Professor Juhani Eskola - a Finnish member of the WHO board on vaccines called the Strategic Advisory Group of Experts (SAGE) - received almost 6.3 million euros in 2009 for his vaccine research programme from the vaccine manufacturers GlaxoSmithKline.


It has also been reported that six other members of SAGE had financial ties with various pharmaceutical companies which include Novartis, Solvay, Baxter, MedImmune and Sanofi Aventis.


This has given rise to speculation that the swine flu was a fase pandemic, orchestrated by drug companies looking pull in large profits from the vaccines. Experts now say that the classic flu causes more deaths than swine flu.