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    App..you have raised an interesting parallel to MSV and the socio-economic situation. Music is a direct
    reflection of
    the socio-economic ethos of a particular time period. MSV/Pre-IR it was a bit more emotional/sombre -
    families in difficult situation etc, with IR it was
    the romantic period with Balu Mahendra, Bharathi Raja etc. With Rahman, the economy has improved
    and now the music is more exuberant/fun.

    Re: digression on recording quality - TIS was done with so much expense because he felt HTNI/NBW did not
    have good recording. So he knows the importance of good recording.
    Then why is it that the movies are not recorded well ? Here is my hypotheses -
    1) Acoustic recording - It is really difficult to record multiple live instruments playing at the same time, which is
    what IR wants and likes to do. ARR/Yuvan and other computer-enabled MDs do it track by track.
    This way the instruments are "closely miced" and effects are added to put the instruments left/right or
    close to the listener or way behind/behind the singer. There are many examples of IR films where the recording was
    very good - ninaivellAm nithya, pagal nilavu, thani kattu raaja, anjali, chembaruth, singaravelan etc
    2) Perception / Synthetic sound - Many/most recordings for Rahman are synth sounds and people liked this sound
    versus the sound of real instruments, because they have been listening to acoustic instruments for a long time.
    Also, the sound is "frequency range" optimized for consumer equipment. For eg, many drum instruments like tabla
    etc produce sounds below 60Hz range, but consumer equipment cannot reproduce this. Rahman/New MDs have synth drums or
    percussion tracks which have a 100Hz boost. So compared to these recordings IR's songs 'lack' bass. But once you
    add a subwoofer or a real full-range speaker then you can hear better into IR's recordings.
    3) Usage of Synth sounds - Since everybody is telling IR, that Rahman and others are using this keyboard and that
    he has switched to it (inspite of personal liking), but the way he uses them is just like acoustic instruments and
    so they do not sit well with other instruments (this part is just my own unproven theory). For eg. I feel cheeni kum and nandhala have used the same kind/quality
    of synthesizers, but cheeni kum is slightly ahead because of good mixing and mastering. Basically, I dont think
    IR is using bad quality keyboards (atleast lately).
    4) Cost - this is what is currently forcing IR to use synths. Suddenly an orchestra has become costly.
    5) Actual bad acoustic recording - unfortunately many of IR's albums fall into this category. Inspite of acoustic
    recordings being difficult to do. There is no excuse of such quality. Again, it might have been cost/quality of
    equipment. He has been a one-stop shop (in terms of fees/cost), sort of like Toyoto or Honda - cars at different price ranges vs a Bentley or Maserati or Aston Martin.
    6) Reproduction - it is very difficult to reproduce good acoustic recordings on consumer equipment. This is one
    of the reasons that even the good quality recordings of IR went/still go unnoticed.

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    NK padaththula varRa original score mAthiri Raaja pOttuttE irunthA pOthum atleast for one film every year, global recognition vEnAm oru maNNum vEnAm.
    'யுவன் இன்றி ஓரணுவும் அசையாது!'

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    http://www.rediff.com/movies/2009/fe...ins-grammy.htm

    Tamil Mayyam shd have sent TiS fo the 2005 Grammys

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    Global recognition only possible when jalaras are shunted out

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    Quote Originally Posted by kameshratnam
    Global recognition only possible when jalaras are shunted out
    And who would they be??

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    Quote Originally Posted by app_engine
    Digression -

    I think Indians in general, got some global recognition either during pre-independence time period (Tagore / CVR / Bose) or post-liberalisation time period (Aishwarya / ARR...) It appears that the 50 years or so when the country tried to align with Soviet and not the "west" (while claiming to be non-aligned and having a lot of restrictions in trade etc.) didn't do any good for global recognition of the talents there.
    kalakeetinga... niraya vishayam ippadhaan puriyudhu... oru vela ippdi irukkumo... appdi irukkumo nuu kuzhambittu irundha naan ippa thelivagiten...

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    Global recognition/awards etc are great to have but its no big deal even if our man does not have it. Yenna onnu, andha Ekkam irundhutte irukkum but we can live with that void.

    I agree with Judge, after Naan Kadavul, namma mana nilai satru maariduchu... The God just went higher

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle
    Quote Originally Posted by app_engine
    Digression -

    I think Indians in general, got some global recognition either during pre-independence time period (Tagore / CVR / Bose) or post-liberalisation time period (Aishwarya / ARR...) It appears that the 50 years or so when the country tried to align with Soviet and not the "west" (while claiming to be non-aligned and having a lot of restrictions in trade etc.) didn't do any good for global recognition of the talents there.
    kalakeetinga... niraya vishayam ippadhaan puriyudhu... oru vela ippdi irukkumo... appdi irukkumo nuu kuzhambittu irundha naan ippa thelivagiten...
    aeei yaruppaa adhu inge kozhappam theendhuduchaam, saar elaile konjam kozhappaththa oothungappa.
    Apparently, a democracy is a place where numerous elections are held at great cost without issues and with interchangeable candidates.
    - Gore Vidal

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    Quote Originally Posted by NormalMan
    Quote Originally Posted by kameshratnam
    Global recognition only possible when jalaras are shunted out
    And who would they be??
    Those who are near him and blindly accept and praise his music without reviewing them and those who falsely spread news about others to him

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    "
    Those who are near him and blindly accept and praise his music without reviewing them and those who falsely spread news about others to him
    "
    And who would that be

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