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Thread: Ilayaraja and AR Rahman - A Comparative Study

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarna_blr
    interesting to read that ARR displaced Raja in you for some period
    kaNNa yEn urutturInga? vazhi maRaththalum thisai thiruththalum vAzhkkayil nadappathu thAnE.

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    Very interesting to read your thoughts on the quote, especially the point about all this being "dependent on the mind functioning in a manner similar to a human mind."
    Thanks equanimus. I find it funny that something is assigned superiority but is still expected to conform to understandability.
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    interesting to read that ARR displaced Raja in you for some period
    kaNNa yEn urutturInga? vazhi maRaththalum thisai thiruththalum vAzhkkayil nadappathu thAnE.
    because IR displaced ARR inside me
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarna_blr
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    interesting to read that ARR displaced Raja in you for some period
    kaNNa yEn urutturInga? vazhi maRaththalum thisai thiruththalum vAzhkkayil nadappathu thAnE.
    because IR displaced ARR inside me
    For me it was the other way ..with all due respect to IR's isai
    And those who were seen dancing, were thought to be insane, by those who could not hear the music - Friedrich Nietzsche

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    interesting to read that ARR displaced Raja in you for some period
    kaNNa yEn urutturInga? vazhi maRaththalum thisai thiruththalum vAzhkkayil nadappathu thAnE.
    because IR displaced ARR inside me
    For me it was the other way ..with all due respect to IR's isai
    Same here, as in IR rose to the level of being equal favourites with ARR but later realization dawned and now I know I prefer ARR's songs more than anything else.
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    interesting to read that ARR displaced Raja in you for some period
    kaNNa yEn urutturInga? vazhi maRaththalum thisai thiruththalum vAzhkkayil nadappathu thAnE.
    because IR displaced ARR inside me
    For me it was the other way ..with all due respect to IR's isai
    Same here, as in IR rose to the level of being equal favourites with ARR but later realization dawned and now I know I prefer ARR's songs more than anything else.
    ARR fanskooda IR'kaaga saNdai pOtta kAlamum uNdu :P I still remember calling up an fm station and expressing my anger and frustration when one of the RJ's was going gaga over ARR. IppO athellAm nenechA

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    Quote Originally Posted by complicateur
    Rahman - The man who easily displaced IR from my consciousness for about 7 years, until I rediscovered and returned to all things rAjA with a vengeance
    my only question to Deepak - where do i find the "bodhi maram" where ARR fans(supposedly) go and turn themselves to IR fans? or is it too elusive for people like me

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    //Roshan, yehi hai right choice babyy aaahaaa yes, rahman doesent compose music the way it should be - a big mistake - his imagination is uncanny, my frnd who is a singer is still in awe how different is ARR from IR & rest in chord patterns.........he broke the entire pallavi-anupallavi-charanams or mukda-antra pattern in IFM....fusion-naa, ippadi dhaan irundhadha, eppadi venaalum pannalam-nnu maathhi - Manmohini from yuvvraaj - hindustani classical on trance beats saabbbbbbaaaa.....indha madhiri neraya thappu panni panni engala ellam paithhiyam aakkittaru//
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    Quote Originally Posted by MADDY
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    Rahman - The man who easily displaced IR from my consciousness for about 7 years, until I rediscovered and returned to all things rAjA with a vengeance
    my only question to Deepak - where do i find the "bodhi maram" where ARR fans(supposedly) go and turn themselves to IR fans? or is it too elusive for people like me
    neenga edhukku IR fan'aa maaranum

    PS... I know that u asked to Deepak, but I am assuming u as an ex-guest and asking
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarna_blr
    neenga edhukku IR fan'aa maaranum
    i just said i wanted to find that tree......i dont have any plans for becoming IR fan in another 7 births atleast evalavu jenmathhu punniyamo - i was born in same era and same parliamentary constituency as ARRahman - indha nanri kadan-nna seluthhave 7 jenmam aaidum
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    Quote Originally Posted by MADDY
    my only question to Deepak - where do i find the "bodhi maram" where ARR fans(supposedly) go and turn themselves to IR fans? or is it too elusive for people like me
    Sudhir,
    I hope I prefaced all my replies on music with the necessary IMOs and I feels. I definitely do not stipulate that music must be composed in anyway, but I prefer - always have and always will - acoustic music and live recording. I am critical even of rAjA and his current obsession with tinny synth sounds.
    And I re-iterate what Sarna says above - ethukku mAraNum? Whatever I said was what I feel for rAjA's music. It is a result of the search for who I am. To paraphrase from GuNA and equanimus: "GnAnam enna bOthi maraththadiyilaya irukku, gnAnam manasula irukku". I hope no one misconstrues my notes on music as an attempt at proselytizing. Just a reflection of what gave me succor at a time of need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MADDY
    hindustani classical on trance beats saabbbbbbaaaa.....
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    Any 12 year old can "put" an alaap on any kind of beat (in fact 'fusion' nu thiriyara neraya peru adha thaan panrainga) and there are people who have done this and more earlier, be it trance or otherwise, like Talvin Singh (even leaving aside Shakti, IR etc aside). I do get your point, aana neenga kudutha description-a sonnen
    Manmohini-ku munnadi 'Fanaa'-ve irukke!

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