Origin of Lord Murugan

**sivank** · 1st February 2009, 08:38 PM

wasn´t malaysia called swarna dhweebam earlier

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**NOV** · 1st February 2009, 08:43 PM

swarna boomi.

in fact the malay word for malay is melayu... and sounds like tamil malai-yoor.... malaysia is hilly. singapore is of course singa-pooram

**sivank** · 1st February 2009, 08:47 PM

dhweebam na bhoomi nu artham. appo irundha indha culture ennaachu

**NOV** · 1st February 2009, 08:49 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_p...es_in_Malaysia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_Malaysians

**NOV** · 1st February 2009, 08:51 PM

quite comprehensive, but dont know how accurate... http://www.tamilnation.org/diaspora/malaysia.htm

**sivank** · 1st February 2009, 08:59 PM

very interesting to read. Thanks for the Link velan

**podalangai** · 2nd February 2009, 01:43 AM

Originally Posted by NOV

indians in malaysia are a recent phenomenon - hardly 2 centuries ago. majority of them were brought from TN to work in the rubber estates. as is norm for tamils, kOvil illaadha ooril kudi irukka vEndaam, they brought along all thier gods and today temples abound all over malaysia.

What about the Chitty Melakas (Indian Peranakans)? They retained Hinduism through the centuries, I think, and even built some temples... did they have a tradition of Murugan worship?

**NOV** · 2nd February 2009, 06:46 AM

Chittys are immigrants of the 15th century. They married Malay women and assimiliated with the local population, taking on thier culture, language, food, clothing, etc. But as you have mentioned, remained Hindus.

Today, the Chittys number only around 2000 and have married into later Tamil families and have become almost completely assimiliated with the Tamils.

As far as I know, there is only one Chitty Temple and its called Poyyatha Vinaayagar temple.

some info: http://www.geocities.com/mlkachittii1u2/dpage6

earlier discussion: http://tfmpage.mayyam.com/hub/viewlite.php?t=2118

**podalangai** · 2nd February 2009, 03:55 PM

Thanks NOV. That's a very useful website.

I also found this photo of a Chitty temple in Gajah Berang:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...tty_Temple.png

Is this an Amman temple? It's architecture looks more South Indian than the Poyyatha Vinayagar temple.

**sar** · 31st October 2009, 06:54 PM

Although Murugan is God for Tamil Land with all six abodes in it, reliable sources suggest that the God's birth place is near Kailash mountains in North India... see this article below about Saravana Poigai sourced from Palani.org...

Saravanap Poigai is the name of a pool in the Himâlayas, from whose waters the divine child, Muruga, is believed to have emerged. Hence the name Saravana Bhava. Saravanap Poigai pools in Muruga shrines are sources of redemption. Accumulated sins are thought to be destroyed by a dip here. As fire consumes fuel, so too this sacred pool consumes the sins of the wicked.

The Saravana Poikai at Tiru Avinankudi has drawn uncounted millions to its banks. It has a hoary tradition and a bath or at least a symbolic use of its waters over your head is a prerequisite for entering the sanctum sanctorum. Bath taps are provided at separate enclosures for men and women.

Also I used think that 'Saravana' was a Tamil originated word as the name prevails only in Tamil Nadu... but slight a bit disappointed to learn that it could actually be different from what I had thought earlier (about first part of my own name)...

Saravana: (Sanskrit) "Thicket of reeds." (Source: Hinduism Dictionary)

Mythologically, a sacred Himalayan pond where Lord Karttikeya was nurtured; esoterically understood as the lake of divine essence, or primal consciousness.