Origin of Lord Murugan

**NOV** · 21st January 2009, 09:19 PM

vadivEl, you must understand the tamil's mind. emmadhamum sammadhamnu vera evanum sonnadhu illa.
we are totally open minded and accept everything and everyone, including gods.

we even accept past human beings as gods.

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**SoftSword** · 21st January 2009, 09:21 PM

adappaavi nov... naan edho madha sandai undu panra ranjeku pesareenga...
i just need to know abt this thats all...

matthapadi kadavul'nra vaarthayae enakku romba dhooram...

**NOV** · 21st January 2009, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by NOV

vadivEl, you must understand the tamil's mind. emmadhamum sammadhamnu vera evanum sonnadhu illa.
we are totally open minded and accept everything and everyone, including gods.

we even accept past human beings as gods.

This IS about Murugan.

**madhu** · 22nd January 2009, 07:38 AM

inge edha pathi discussion nadakkudhu ?

edhukkum indha blog-aiyum padichu vaiyunga..

http://controversialhistory.blogspot...-shanmuga.html

http://controversialhistory.blogspot...tamil-god.html

**NOV** · 22nd January 2009, 07:53 AM

I hope now Vadivel understands my mention of rishimoolam, etc.

**SoftSword** · 22nd January 2009, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by madhu

inge edha pathi discussion nadakkudhu ?

edhukkum indha blog-aiyum padichu vaiyunga..

http://controversialhistory.blogspot...-shanmuga.html

http://controversialhistory.blogspot...tamil-god.html

madhu...
andha rendu blogayum padichum naan thaedina vidai kidaikkama dhaan hubla periyavanga kitta kaekkalaamnu thread open pannen...

nov... as u said, maybe its wrong to investigate rishimoolam...
but for now thats my task now... i cant give it up

**madhu** · 22nd January 2009, 10:03 PM

I think.. Amarakosam itself is very old. In tamil kanda puranam is relatively new. And thats again originally written in sanskrit only.

IMHO Karthik is the orginal and Murugan is the modified and refined version.

**P_R** · 23rd January 2009, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by podalangai

The name "Murukan", according to some scholars, comes from a proto-Dravidian word for youth, freshness or beauty. There are related words in many southern Dravidian languages, but none of them refer to a deity (with the obvious exception of Malayalam). In Konda, for example, "murku" means "young men". In Telugu, "murupu" means "tender beauty" or "grace". This would obviously place his roots quite firmly amongst Tamils.

Iravatham Mahadevan takes a different view of the etymology of "Murukan". As a result, he interprets one of the signs from the Indus Valley corpus as being a reference to Murukan, which would make his worship an extremely ancient tradition of the ancestors of the Tamils. See:

http://murugan.org/research/mahadevan.htm

Interesting.

Nk. mural: to wither.

Kur. murdna: to be dried to excess.
Ga. murg: to bend; murgen: bent; murug: to bend down.

Go. moorga: humpbacked
Kui. mrupka: to kill, murder.
Malt. murke: to cut into bits.

What languages are these ?

Ta. murukku: to destroy, kill; murunku : to be destroyed.
Ta. murancu: to be old, ancient; muri: antiquity.

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**madhu** · 23rd January 2009, 10:35 AM

Hindi-la murga-nA sEval...

sEval kodi vachiruppadhAl avarai murugA-nu koopidarAngannu kooda solluvAngO

**podalangai** · 23rd January 2009, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by madhu

inge edha pathi discussion nadakkudhu ?

edhukkum indha blog-aiyum padichu vaiyunga..

http://controversialhistory.blogspot...-shanmuga.html

http://controversialhistory.blogspot...tamil-god.html

Madhu, that blog is written with a view to emphasise and glorify Karnataka and Kannada's position in India at the expense of the rest of Southern India. According to him, just about every major dynasty of southern India - Ikshavku, Rashtrakuta, Satavahana, even the Pallavas - were Kannadigas.

The author censors critical comments which he can't answer - I've commented on several entries over the past 18 months, and not one has appeared on the blog.

So take everything there with a huge helping of salt.