COPYING - IN TAMIL FILM HISTORY - PART2

[ajaybaskar]

ASAL:

NAGAL:

[music man]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ypix35j1aeo

Wow!!! Good find....

ASAL:

NAGAL:

Actually Steven Devassy used to be the pianist for Vidya Saagar..I read somewhere that Vidya Saagar and Stephen Devassy had mutually agreed and had redone the same piece in that song...

[dochu]

Maybe this was already mentioned.

Starting bit seems to be the same. (same raga?)

Oru kal oru kannadi (Siva Manasula Sakthi)


So gaya ye jehaan (Tezaab)

[vel]

so gaya yeh jahan by itself looks like a copy of keladi kanmani paadagan sangadhi..

[MADDY]

so gaya yeh jahan by itself looks like a copy of keladi kanmani paadagan sangadhi..

u r saying ulta - Tezaab came a year before pudhu pudhu arthangal

[app_engine]

'kELadi kaNmaNi' is one of the few copies of IR ('sO gayA' is the original from tEzAb; or it may have an older Hindi original as IR has been inspired from some, the well-known one being 'kanavu kANum vAzhkkai yAvum' of neengaL kEttavai).

[Vysar]

LP and IR had an understanding and IR bought the rights for So gaya so the whole family can copy.

Then IR, Now Yuva, future Yatheesh.

[dochu]

LP and IR had an understanding and IR bought the rights for So gaya so the whole family can copy.

Then IR, Now Yuva, future Yatheesh.

Guess, if one is 'clever' in masking the 'original' then he is a successful MD. However, I think YSR still has talent, this is just an aberration.

[Sureshs65]

app_eng,

The first line in the two song, keladi' and 'so gaya' are where the similarity ends. 'keladi' then takes a totally different route. The charanams are totally different. The whole feel of both the songs is quite different. The charanams of the Hindi song are quite pedestrian IMHO.

Honestly I cannot see the link between 'oru kal' and 'so gaya'. Maybe both are based on the same scale.

You are right about 'kanavu kaanum' song though. It is a direct copy of 'kasme vaade pyar wafa sub' from a Manoj Kumar movie. Original sung by Manna Dey. The other song which is a direct lift against Raja's name is 'O rabba vesu kunna killi' which is a copy of 'kaike paan banaras wala' from Don in the Telugu film 'Yugandhar'. Incidentally both the Hindi songs had music by Kalyanji Anandji.

While I can understand the Don song copy, the Hindi version being hugely popular and NTR wanting it in his film. (Those were the days when songs were regularly copied from Hindi. Raja was just getting is foothold in the industry and NTR was a big man.) What I still cannot fathom is the 'kasme vade pyar' song coming to Tamil. First, it is a fairly mediocre song. Not like some beauty of Madanmohan or Roshan. Second, it was in Balu Mahendra's film, who is very close to Raja. Third, there was no one involved like NTR or such and Raja was not the beginner as he was during the 'Yugandhar' days. So is it that Raja liked the song so much or Balu Mahendra liked the song so much that they decided to transpose it to Tamil? I am curious because Raja has probably a huge number of songs for such situations and many of them being lot more better than this song. So why copy?

Maybe the mystery will clear some day!!

[viraajan]

Honestly I cannot see the link between 'oru kal' and 'so gaya'.

Yes.