The Universal Truth of "God Supreme"

**pradheep** · 24th March 2009, 02:58 AM

So did I exist before birth ? As what ?

Even now "I" exist as thoughts (thinking machine). Before birth also the same. This continues until a thoughtless state, the Source , the witness of all thoughts.

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**virarajendra** · 9th January 2010, 11:31 PM

Brought forward

**pradheep** · 12th January 2010, 12:12 AM

May be the new movie avatar could shed light on this Topic and related topics in this section. The movie name and title is from the vedic tradition and primitive soceities of the world.

http://matrixjourney.com/avatar.htm

**Aghori** · 12th January 2010, 07:02 PM

The universal truth is simple

aham Bhramasmi Ayam Bhramasmi Jai Bholenath!

**pradheep** · 13th January 2010, 03:59 AM

Bholenath!

Words like the above without meaning , just denoting a image, makes the Universal Truth complicated in discussions.

**PARAMASHIVAN** · 18th January 2010, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by pradheep

Bholenath!

Words like the above without meaning , just denoting a image, makes the Universal Truth complicated in discussions.

Hi

Bholenath is sanskrit word for Lird Shiva, Bhole (Universe) Nath(god) , implying God of universe

**pradheep** · 18th January 2010, 10:29 PM

Bholenath is sanskrit word for Lird Shiva, Bhole (Universe) Nath(god) , implying God of universe

You are right, in Sanskrit Bhole (Universe) Nath(god) , implying God of universe. But Shiva devotees used that word to denote Shiva.

Another word Jaganath, in sanskrit means Jag (universe) nath (god or king), implying god or king of universe. But Vishnu devotees used that word to denote Vishnu.

Vishnu and Shiva and Brahma are three names denoting three functions of Cosmic Energy. They are "not" three different individuals. Lack of this understanding creates wars and hinders the progess of Bhakthi.

**PARAMASHIVAN** · 18th January 2010, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by pradheep

Another word Jaganath, in sanskrit means Jag (universe) nath (god or king), implying god or king of universe. But Vishnu devotees used that word to denote Vishnu.

Yes , you are right. But Jagadesha denotes lord Shiva, If you listen to the Gayathri Mantra , it goes like this

Om Jai Jagadesha hara Swami Jai jagadesha hara

The word Isha (Isa in Christianity, Islam) also denotes Supreme truth,...I believe the culture known as 'Hinduism' actually orginated from middle east, not from today's India

what are your thoughts on this?

**PARAMASHIVAN** · 18th January 2010, 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by pradheep

Vishnu and Shiva and Brahma are three names denoting three functions of Cosmic Energy. They are "not" three different individuals. Lack of this understanding creates wars and hinders the progess of Bhakthi.

Correct, this was deployed by scholars to educate us about the different stages of a life perishable body goes through... Hindusim is a practical reality of life rather than a religion (re align with God).

If you take Hinduism for eg.. we have saraswathi (education), Lakshmi (finance) , Durga (defence) . This is like MP's in a Parliment.

Some fight over ruling partY (Shivaites, Vaishnavites) vs Oppositin party (Shivaites, Vaishnavites)

**pradheep** · 18th January 2010, 11:09 PM

Correct, this was deployed by scholars to educate us

If that is true , the names Bholenath and Jaganath represents both Shiva and Vishnu depending on the individual who identifies with a particular name and form for represrnting "God (Consciousness)".