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5th May 2008, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by
anbu_kathir
If you believe anyone is an 'ordinary' soul who doesn't understand these things, or that I or anyone is somehow 'higher' because I or that someone does understand, so it will be, for you! I don't care about these anyway, there is no such thing as ordinary, higher, lower etc..in my world.
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5th May 2008 08:15 PM
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5th May 2008, 09:38 PM
#12
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Re: The Universal Truth of "God Supreme"
Originally Posted by
virarajendra
'One and only' Ultimate - the "God Supreme"
All will accept this ..but everybody will argue that the one they worship is the real GOD supreme.
பாசமலருக்கு அழாதவன் மனுஷனாடே ! - சுயம்புலிங்கம்
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5th May 2008, 11:54 PM
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So many religions.. but why is there always Master-Servant rhetoric ? Why is the Supreme .. Almighty stuff ? Why is "worship" instead of "homeage" or "respect" or "just hello .. or a bye" , even assuming that there is "One" ? Does "The Supreme Being" expect that I worship him ?
Could He or She actually was a creature from more advanced Culture that was alien to the society ? What if "God the Supreme" is already lost along with that culture, leaving behind only "knowledge" ? (Like Veda, Genesis, Scriptures etc)
Why so many "He" and very few 'shes" in the religions mentioned ? Is that because of too much testosterone in the religion ? Is it a proof that "The Supreme" is in man's imagination only ?
And not to mention "The Supreme Being" are realized by those who lived in the past and some belief is always needed .. cannot be seen and can only be realized .. rhetorics.
Even assuming he is for real and he is found out .. (just like some people claiming to have discovered anti-matter,black hole etc) what happens next ? Does our relationship with him change ? Will we still revere him ?
Albert Einstein
"Heroism on command, senseless violence, and all the loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism -- how passionately I hate them!"
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7th May 2008, 12:09 PM
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HI pizzalot, I shall try to share my opinion based on how little I know.
Anbuk kathir and others who are much more wiser can guide me wherever I am wrong.
Originally Posted by
pizzalot
So many religions.. but why is there always Master-Servant rhetoric ? Why is the Supreme .. Almighty stuff ?
Because one is complete or realised and other is not so!
The master servant theory is for ppl in different steps of realisation.
Why is "worship" instead of "homeage" or "respect" or "just hello .. or a bye" , even assuming that there is "One" ? Does "The Supreme Being" expect that I worship him ?
No you need not worship. You can just say hello or hi or talk to the
so called supreme thing. There is nothing like 'something is supreme and other is not'. Definitely it does not EXPECT you to worship .
suppose,
human + knowlege = wise person
human - knowledge = Ignorant person
human however REMAINS the same and IS THE SAME with or without knowledge.
So, the supreme being and the ordinary beings are ESSENTIALLY the same. Application of knowledge is limited or lacks in the ordinary beings.
Could He or She actually was a creature from more advanced Culture that was alien to the society ? What if "God the Supreme" is already lost along with that culture, leaving behind only "knowledge" ? (Like Veda, Genesis, Scriptures etc)
There is NOTHING SEPERATELY called GOD, which u can term as HE OR SHE or a creature.
GOD is plain EXISTENCE.
Why so many "He" and very few 'shes" in the religions mentioned ? Is that because of too much testosterone in the religion ? Is it a proof that "The Supreme" is in man's imagination only ?
God is NATURE. Most hes and shes are PERSONIFICATIONS of nature.
And not to mention "The Supreme Being" are realized by those who lived in the past and some belief is always needed ..
Right here, in this world, in current era, THERE ARE REALISED souls. They just dont say it out or talk about it (because it cannot be explained theoritically it has to experienced)
cannot be seen and can only be realized .. rhetorics.
yes. Its ITS AN EXPERIENCE, not an entity
Even assuming he is for real and he is found out .. (just like some people claiming to have discovered anti-matter,black hole etc) what happens next ? Does our relationship with him change ? Will we still revere him ?
We become THAT. Where is the question of revering something when EVERYTHING around is just THE SAME THING
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9th May 2008, 02:09 AM
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Thanks Shakthi. Actually I know there is no correct answer. The ideas was to see how differently you see things based on your experience.
Now another question. God= Existance. God=Me. So I always existed, correct ?
So did I exist before birth ? As what ?
Albert Einstein
"Heroism on command, senseless violence, and all the loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism -- how passionately I hate them!"
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9th May 2008, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by
pizzalot
So did I exist before birth ? As what ?
Answers may be given. But how do we know if it is true or false? What logic would one apply to it?
Love and Light.
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10th October 2008, 08:27 PM
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11th October 2008, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by
Shakthiprabha
" The case of ordinary Jivas is like that of the salt - doll which attempting to sound the depths of the ocean melted into it. Do you see? The sum and substance of it is -- you have only got to know that you are Eternal Brahman. "
Aaha...only Masters can put it so eloquently.
Love and Light.
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10th March 2009, 11:56 PM
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11th March 2009, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by
virarajendra
Brought Forward
Its kind of sad that the "Universal truth of God-Supreme" should be 'brought forward' now and then
Just kidding.. thanks virarajendra.
Love and light.
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