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30th April 2010, 02:28 PM
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appadi cut and right-aa solli pOy vElaiya paarungappaa, ithayellaam perusaa eduththukittu-nnu sollalaiyE supreme court!!! ammaNi sonna aRputhamaana karuththukkaLai( avarukkillaatha 'suthanthiramaa? )appadi silaakiththu vazakku pOttavarkaLai kaNdiththu, nakkaladiththu theerppu ezuthaNumaa, enna?
Eager to watch the trends of the world & to nurture in the youth who carry the future world on their shoulders a right sense of values.
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30th April 2010 02:28 PM
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30th April 2010, 05:10 PM
#22
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லோக்கல் கோர்ட் நீதிபதிகளுக்கும், ஐகோர்ட் நீதிபதிகளுக்கும் இனிமேற்பட்டு இப்படிப்பட்ட வெட்டி விவகாரங்களுக்கு எப்படித்தீர்ப்புச்சொல்லி வேறு உருப்படியான வேலை செய்யணும்னு சுப்ரீம் கோர்ட் கொஞ்சம் ட்ரெயினிங் கொடுத்தா ரொம்பப்பிரயோஜனம்!
(அதை விட்டுட்டு இவங்களும் 'குந்திதேவி, பாஞ்சாலி' - ஸாரி அதெல்லாம் இழுக்கலையோ - இந்தக்'கண்ணன் - ராதை'ன்னெல்லாம் புராணம் பாடுறதைக்குறைக்கலாம்)
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30th April 2010, 06:21 PM
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30th April 2010, 06:41 PM
#24
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Originally Posted by
joe
அரசாங்கம் இந்த கருத்தை பரப்ப ஒரு வாரியம் அமைச்சு மக்களுக்கு கொண்டு போகணும்
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30th April 2010, 07:08 PM
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Let us discern...
...the LEGAL Aspect, from SOCIAL Aspect
It is out of Scope of our discussion here...
...either on the Legal-veracity or justification or the sense of Supreme court Judgement.
Because the Courts approach, evaluation of the cases and Judgements are ENTIRELY IN THE LEGAL ASPECT...
..Based on Indian Laws and Constitution.
So by means of the Supreme court Judgement, we are lead to understand what the Legal purview has got to say on this Public Anomoly...
...Causing a SOCIAL INJURY to the Indian Society on the whole...
..as well as the Great Culture of Pride and Elation
...backed by the Global recognition and approbation of thousands of years traditionally...
..as the Connoissers and Emulative Leaders for the World Society on Human Values... discerning from Beastly behaviours.
Example: The Great German Scholar Dr Max Mullers findings on Indian people and Ancient culture by HUMAN-VALUES.
So, now we are here concerned only in the Social aspect.
In the name of MODERNITY AND ADVANCEMENT...
...Can we allow this Kushboo-Idea to be VALIDATED ...in the Social Angle.?
Is it not a VICIOUS ENCROACHMENT plus a JACKAL Thrust of Immorality...
...to develop and thrive in India...
...aimed towards our Youth of Integrity...
...already enriched by our School-Education of Moral Values...
... backed by Family- inculcation on Human-character shaping and Code of Self-conduct.???
Is it good or better for we Indians.?
...especially for the Posterity.?...
.. towards better Humans of Real Happiness and Success in Life.?
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30th April 2010, 08:00 PM
#26
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Originally Posted by
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Originally Posted by
joe
அரசாங்கம் இந்த கருத்தை பரப்ப ஒரு வாரியம் அமைச்சு மக்களுக்கு கொண்டு போகணும்
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30th April 2010, 08:17 PM
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Sudhamaji,
Some loose comments by SC actually touched about stuff not strictly related to law books.
That was the Radha-Krishna stuff.
As much as you can draw german etc for appreciation for Indian culture / family values etc, strictly on the question of "sex-morality" thingy, Indian culture -i.e. if we broadly call whatever exists within the geographical country as "Indian culture"- is pretty confused (as clearly observed by SC).
There is this -oruvanukku oruththi- sex only within marriage - ozhukkam - kaRpu and such moral teachings that are meticulously taught and followed by one section of society (possibly the majority of middle class and below which definitely forms majority of Indians - regardless of religious beliefs- who knows, it may be 80% or even higher).
OTOH, there are also other forms of "culture" that find acceptance both in mythology / religion and everyday lives - i.e. more than one wife, live together without an official marriage etc (at least some groups among most religions, tribals, atheists etc - you can look around and see lakhs of examples - though possibly minority, this is not a small number)
It's not surprising that the law of the country only controls what happens AFTER MARRIAGE - that too based on one's declared religion or the marriage act that one registers with and should conform to - and nothing prior to that (unless rape / child abuse etc are involved).
That is because, any law code book of a country is just a set of rules that a group of people put together - after counsulting what their "holy books" say plus what is prevalent in the society.
So, this superiority complex - we're Indians and we're "morally" (i.e. in the sexual context) greater than west - is on a shaky foundation.
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30th April 2010, 10:33 PM
#28
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Welcome My dear “app”
---for Your HEALTHY and INTERESTING plus VALID Points--
appRECIABLE, appROPRIATE, appOSITION.
Originally Posted by
app_engine
Some loose comments by SC actually touched about stuff not strictly related to law books.
That was the Radha-Krishna stuff.
I have not gone through it. However if any person-- even if he be a Judge,
---misjudges or under-rates the Greatness of Indian Culture established by its RICH HERITAGE--
--I just pity him.. for his IGNORANCE on true Vedic Concept of Human-Values --
--not only by the dint of Religion, but also as Man the Supreme Creature on Earth--
---excelling all other Living-beings in each and every aspect of mundane Life on Earth..
Yes in the Global perspective too-- by the Sense of Mankind.!
One simple point on Radha-Krishna ROMANCE.!
Such Krishna-leelas at Brindavana ends within the Bala-Krishna’s age of Boyhood of just TEN YEARS !
--Radha and other Gopika Girls too were of such Childhood age
What Sexual affair has got to do here ? --
--except the Sanctity of Soul-spirit.!
Originally Posted by
app_engine
As much as you can draw german etc for appreciation for Indian culture / family values etc, strictly on the question of "sex-morality" thingy, Indian culture -i.e. if we broadly call whatever exists within the geographical country as "Indian culture"- is pretty confused (as clearly observed by SC).
There is NO CONFUSION in Indian Culture
--nor IRRELEVANCE nor In- appropriation Nor OUT-DATEDness for the Current Modern era --
--on the Rudiments of Indian Culture of Human-Values
If anybody gets confused, it only means his inability to perceive the True sense implied --
--although openly may not be apparent.
Yes. Indian culture is NOT SPOON-FED Education.
We have to apply Our WISDOM AND HEART to truly understand its high and deep sense imbued-
--to lead the MOSAIC Global Humanity--
--towards an EARTHLY PARADISE.!!! for the whole Mankind ---
---preventing them from the Suicidal Down-fall towards Stone-age culture.!
Originally Posted by
app_engine
There is this -oruvanukku oruththi- sex only within marriage - ozhukkam - kaRpu and such moral teachings that are meticulously taught and followed by one section of society (possibly the majority of middle class and below which definitely forms majority of Indians - regardless of religious beliefs- who knows, it may be 80% or even higher).
(1) Hinduism nor the Hindu-Culture stipulates "Oruvanukku oruthi" Marriage Culture
But only stipulates two Personal-conducts as IMMORAL -- and condemns Hypocricy and Shady Life
(2)Prostitution and Raping are Crimes and Sinful
(3)Every Grihastha Male can have any Number of Wives transparently…
--but it must legally and Socially conform to Human-Norms.
(4)Marriage is a TRANSPARENT Solemn ceremony of Two Human merger-- by Soul, Mind, and Body
--which norm should not be ignored nor transgressed.
Originally Posted by
app_engine
OTOH, there are also other forms of "culture" that find acceptance both in mythology / religion and everyday lives - i.e. more than one wife, live together without an official marriage etc (at least some groups among most religions, tribals, atheists etc - you can look around and see lakhs of examples - though possibly minority, this is not a small number)//
Hindu culture allows not only Polygamy (several Wives for One Husband)
--but also Polyandry (several Husbands for One Wife)
--if Socially granted in specific cases--- constrained by circumstances.
Originally Posted by
app_engine
It's not surprising that the law of the country only controls what happens AFTER MARRIAGE - that too based on one's declared religion or the marriage act that one registers with and should conform to - and nothing prior to that (unless rape / child abuse etc are involved).
That is because, any law code book of a country is just a set of rules that a group of people put together - after counsulting what their "holy books" say plus what is prevalent in the society.
No Not all. Laws are the Deemed-Fence for the Society.
Legal protection by Government is Supreme for a Commonman at every stage of Life.
Originally Posted by
app_engine
So, this superiority complex - we're Indians and we're "morally" (i.e. in the sexual context) greater than west - is on a shaky foundation.
No Question of Superiority Complex…
We perhaps need a Foreigner to make us understand and realise--
--the true value of Gems on our Crown.!!!
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30th April 2010, 10:41 PM
#29
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Moral code and penal code need not be the same .period.
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30th April 2010, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by
Sudhaama
One simple point on Radha-Krishna ROMANCE.!
Such Krishna-leelas at Brindavana ends within the Bala-Krishna’s age of Boyhood of just TEN YEARS !
--Radha and other Gopika Girls too were of such Childhood age
What Sexual affair has got to do here ? --
--except the Sanctity of Soul-spirit.!
As per SC judge, R-K was a case of PMS, so relevant to the case, and because gods did it there's nothing wrong with the practice.
Now, you have a twist to it - that there was no pAluRavu involved
Well, possibly you're an expert in mythological books and please feel free to hit at the judge for his ignorance
Since your other points touch on religious doctrines / practices (Hinduism - Hindu culture to be specific) , I won't comment on them (hub prohibition)
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