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    Another master piece from Nagesh:

    Scene: Nagesh and Balaji arrive at Padmini's house and Saraswathi welcomes them.

    Saraswathi: "Vaithi avaru {Balaji} nikkiraare, yen kaalu valikkudhe"

    Nagesh: Patheera minor, neenga nikkirel, avaa kaalu valikkudham, umakku pasichha avaa sappituduvaa, vaango ulle pogalaam".

    In the same scene, while alighting from the coach Balaji would be hanging his down; at this Nagesh tells him : "Ippave yen thalaya kuninjikireer, veliye varumpodhu dhane thalaya kuninjikkanum".

    Another scene:

    Senthamarai to Nagesh: "Inime minor gra pere un vaayila vara koodaadhu"
    Nagesh: "Yen! minor major aayitaara?"


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    Quote Originally Posted by rangan_08
    Thillaana Mohanaambaal----

    Yes. You love this man - You hate this man for being Vaithy.. Nagesh really rocked as the one and only Vaithy...

    Though he comes late in the film, he completely steals your heart, particularly in scenes where he talks with Vadivamba. "Evlo periya nethi, adula evlo periya pottu..adu sari, koduthu vachava, irukku vechikira...." Many more scenes like this....

    Madhanpur Maharani (who is that lady ? ) will say in one of the scenes, " I don't like that man..he is a Jackal " . That's a perfect word to describe his character.
    மதன்பூர் மாளிகையில் தங்கியிருக்கும்போது சிக்கலாருக்கும் வைத்திக்கும் நடக்கும் ஒரு சுவாரஸ்யமான உரையாடல்:

    "சண்முகசுந்தரம், எல்லாரும் அவா அவா வாத்தியங்கள எடுத்த்க்கிட்டு புறப்படுங்கோ"

    "யோவ் வைத்தி, எங்கேயா கிளம்ப சொல்றே?"

    "மகாராஜா உறங்கப்போறார். எல்லாரும் அவரை சுத்தி நின்னு வாசிங்கோ. அதைக்கேட்டுண்டு மகாராஜா ஆனந்தமா உறங்கனும்"

    "உம்... இன்னும் எது எதுக்கெல்லாம் வாசிக்கணும்?"

    "ராத்திரி அவர் உறங்கறச்சே வாசிக்கணும். காலைல அவர் கண்முழிக்கும்போது திருப்பள்ளியெழுச்சி வாசிக்கணும்"

    "யோவ் திருப்பள்ளியெழுச்சியெல்லாம் கோயில்லேதான்யா வாசிப்பாங்க".

    "உனக்காக மகாராஜா கோயில்லே போய் படுப்பாரா?"

    (இந்த கடைசி வசனம் ஏ.பி.என் எழுதாதது என்றும், நாகேஷ் தானாக சேர்த்துக்கொண்டது என்றும் சொல்வார்கள்).

    கொஞ்சம் அசந்தால் போதும், எதிரில் இருப்பவரை தூக்கி சாப்பிட்டு விடுவார் நாகேஷ்.

    Another Great Actor.
    Yours truly

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    Quote Originally Posted by DHANUSU
    Tillana Mohanambal.

    The director and the hero had immense guts in including a scene which depicts the hero in a poor light i.e. a narrow minded person. Recall the hospital scene where NT suspects the movements of the staff nurse, who gives him a towel-bath and tells her to behave properly. She retards him telling that she was just doing that at the behest of her father who was a piano master and he told her to take care of "sikkalar" as if she is taking care of her father. In the end she admonishes him "yeyya, ungalukka nadaswaram vasikka mattumdhan theriyuma?". At this point NT holds her hands and tells "idhu un kai illa, kaalu, yenna mannichudu". I am sure no other hero would agree for such a scene.
    Everyone has their own openion.

    Some hubbers here has praised this scene also.

    But for me, this is the WORST SCENE in that best film. Yes, it is an unncessary scene too.

    oru Hero, thannudaiya image patri kavalaip padaathavaraaga irukkalaam. But adhukkaaga thannudaiya imagai thaanE kuzhi thOndi pudhaikkum aLavukku iRanga koodaathu.

    When his rival is giving keen observation in each and everything about his image, ivar atleast konjamaavathu thannudaiya image patriyum thannudaiya fans patriyum ninaichu paarkkanum.

    still I am confusing, why APN addaed this unnecessary scene (hospital-NT-M.Banumathi) in the movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_karthik
    Everyone has their own openion.

    Some hubbers here has praised this scene also.

    But for me, this is the WORST SCENE in that best film. Yes, it is an unncessary scene too.

    oru Hero, thannudaiya image patri kavalaip padaathavaraaga irukkalaam. But adhukkaaga thannudaiya imagai thaanE kuzhi thOndi pudhaikkum aLavukku iRanga koodaathu.

    When his rival is giving keen observation in each and everything about his image, ivar atleast konjamaavathu thannudaiya image patriyum thannudaiya fans patriyum ninaichu paarkkanum.

    still I am confusing, why APN addaed this unnecessary scene (hospital-NT-M.Banumathi) in the movie.
    Is this scene present in the Novel ????

    Well, Karthik sir, as you know, TM is not a movie with the commercial elements necessary to make a roller-coaster entertainer and to satisfy the fans. Rather, it is supposed to be a classic in it's own way. So, obviously the characters & the story is important here. It's not NT who is begging for pardon in that scene, but it is Sikkal Shanmugam. That scene is actually an eye-opener for SS. And needless to say, our NT has done full justice to the character.

    If a typical scene comes in films like Raja, Thanga Surangam etc., then there is reason for the rasigars to voice their concern.
    Perhaps life is just that. A Dream and a Fear. -- Joseph Conrad

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_karthik
    But for me, this is the WORST SCENE in that best film. Yes, it is an unncessary scene too.

    still I am confusing, why APN addaed this unnecessary scene (hospital-NT-M.Banumathi) in the movie.
    IMO it is NOT an unnecessary scene.

    It establishes Shanmugam's character very well.
    He suspects that Mohana is no different from the rest and is trying her charms on Singapuram minor. This was based on flimsy evidence. Even when he goes to play the ThillAna in Thiruvaaroor, we have no reason to believe his suspicions have gone away.
    But the suspicion seems to magically vanish at the end of the contest when he announces the title: "thillAna mOhanAmbAL".
    This again is attributable to his mercurial personality and his artistic temperament.

    The nurse scene is not bad at all. Sivaji does really well in the scene with the nurse.
    The expression on his face when he has the thermometer in his mouth is
    The way he says "enakkAga nee romba sramam eduthukriyOnnu.." is just beautiful.
    The only thing which I don't like about the scene is the cliche that he sees Mohana in the nurse.

    Note: he does not spurn only the nurse's perceived advances in the film. Jiljil physical innocent physical proximity is also deftly avoided by Shanmugam even in Azhagar kOvil.

    That Shanmugam's talent is known even outside the world of traditional music. An obscure church choir organ player (possibly much older than Shanmugam) respects his talent so much that he speaks highly of him to his daughter.

    But the daughter is able to size his character up accurately, saying that all he seems to know is to play the Nadaswaram and that is it.
    (which is a strong lashing to the ego than the more soothing generalization: "kurai illaadha manushan Edhu jillu ?")

    That these minor actions of hers are being misread by him is a realization that should have stung the suspicion-ridden man that Shanmugam is. Hadn't he suspected Mohana based on even flimsier evidence ?

    I don't think this scene shows him in poor light. It shows him in flesh and blood as the hyperconservative man who gets a lesson that his talent does not overcome his other shortcomings. But his jealousy - which is the signature of his love - stays on even after he gets emotional in this event. That is a real characterization
    மூவா? முதல்வா! இனியெம்மைச் சோரேலே

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    அந்த ஆஸ்பத்திரி காட்சியினால், சிக்கலாரின் பாத்திரம் பழுதுபடவில்லை, மாறாக பாத்திரத்தின் உள்ளுணர்வு தெரிவிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது என்றே நினைக்கிறேன். ரசிகர்களுக்குத் தேவையான விஷயங்களை மற்ற படங்களில் எதிர்பார்க்கலாம். ஆனால் இதைப்போன்ற நாவல்களைப் படமாக்கும்போது, அவற்றை அப்படியே கையாள்வதுதான் சரி. அதைத்தான் ஏ.பி.என்,னும் செய்துள்ளார்.

    அந்த வகையில் மோகன் சொன்னதும், பிரபுராம் சொன்னதும் சரியே.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saradhaa_sn
    அந்த ஆஸ்பத்திரி காட்சியினால், சிக்கலாரின் பாத்திரம் பழுதுபடவில்லை, மாறாக பாத்திரத்தின் உள்ளுணர்வு தெரிவிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது என்றே நினைக்கிறேன். ரசிகர்களுக்குத் தேவையான விஷயங்களை மற்ற படங்களில் எதிர்பார்க்கலாம். ஆனால் இதைப்போன்ற நாவல்களைப் படமாக்கும்போது, அவற்றை அப்படியே கையாள்வதுதான் சரி. அதைத்தான் ஏ.பி.என்,னும் செய்துள்ளார்.

    அந்த வகையில் மோகன் சொன்னதும், பிரபுராம் சொன்னதும் சரியே.
    Hi sharadhaa,

    Waiting for ur reply/review in mm2 thread... ....
    its disappointing us without ur review...

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    This week Sun TV telecasts " Anbukkarangal", where NT plays a station master. That was a unique character for NT indeed.

    Any interesting info about this film...????
    Perhaps life is just that. A Dream and a Fear. -- Joseph Conrad

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    Quote Originally Posted by rangan_08
    This week Sun TV telecasts " Anbukkarangal", where NT plays a station master. That was a unique character for NT indeed.

    Any interesting info about this film...????
    இன்றிரவு 'அன்புக்கரங்கள்'. வெள்ளியன்று இரவு 'பாரத விலாஸ்' ஒளிபரப்பாகிறது. (புதன் கலைஞரின் 'பூம்புகார்', மற்றும் வியாழனன்று 'தேன் நிலவு).

    'அன்புக்கரங்களை'ப்பற்றி சொலவதென்றால், அவர் அதற்கு முன் ஏற்றிராத ஸ்டேஷன் மாஸ்டர் ரோல். (ஏற்கெனவே ரயில் எஞ்சின் டிரைவராக 'பச்சை விளக்கில்' வந்துள்ளார். இவர் நடிக்காத பாத்திரத்தை தேட வெண்டும்).

    ஆலயமணி, ஆண்டவன் கட்டளை படங்களுக்குப்பிறகு 'மாற்று முகாம்' இய்க்குனர் கே.சங்கர் மீண்டும் இப்படத்தில் நடிகர்திலகத்துடன் இணைந்தார். கே. வி. மகாதேவன் மாமா இசையமைத்துள்ளார்.

    நடிகர் திலகத்தின் சூப்பர் ஜோடியான தேவிகாதான் இப்படத்தின் நாயகி. 'உங்கள் அழகென்ன அறிவென்ன மனமென்ன குணமென்ன கோபம் வரலாமா' பாடலில் பாவாடை தாவணியில் அழகாக ஆடி வருவார். 'காகிதத்தில் கப்பல் செய்து' பாடலில் நடிகர்திலகம் உணர்ச்சிகரமான நடிப்பை வெளிப்படுத்தியிருப்பார். 'ஒண்ணாயிருக்க கத்துக்கணும்' என்ற தத்துவப்பாடலும் இவருகுத்தான். நடிகர்திலகத்தின் தங்கையாக மணிமாலா. அவரது ஜோடியாக பாலாஜி. இருவருக்கும் அருமையான டூயட் பாடல். பி.பி.எஸ்., மற்றும் சுசீலா குரலில் 'இரவு முடிந்து விடும்... முடிந்தால்..., பொழுது விடிந்துவிடும்' என்ற தேன் சொட்டும் பாடல்.

    நகைச்சுவைக்கு நாகேஷ் உண்டு. கருப்பு வெள்ளைப்படமானாலும், ரயில்வே ஸ்டேஷன் வெளிப்புறக்காட்சிகள் மனதைக்கவரும்.

    இது இன்ட்ரொடக்ஷன்தான், எல்லோரும் தவறாமல் இன்றிரவு பார்க்க வேண்டும் என்பதற்காக....

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    Thanks mam. Years back have seen this film in Mekala.
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    Kulama Gunama

    Production house: Asan Arts
    Lyrics: Kannadhasan
    Music: KV Mahadevan
    Direction KS Gopalakrishnan

    Sivaji Ganesan
    Padmini
    Jaishankar
    Vanisri
    Nagesh
    Nambiyar
    CK Saraswathy

    Chinna Thambi (Sivaji) is a social worker and spends little time with wife Seetha (Padmini) or his brother Jaishankar. Nambiar and his wife run the only maligai kadai in the same area. They have a daughter Lalitha (Vanishri) and Nagesh is their helper. Nambiar cheats his customers by dealing in kalappadam. The villagers complain and Chinna Thambi catches Nambiar red handed. With his assistance, a new cooperative is opened. Nambiar plans CT's downfall. In the meantime, CK Saraswathy despises Seetha and uses every opportunity to deride her calling her a maladi, etc.

    In the meantime, Jaishankar and Vanishri fall in love ... sorgaththil mayanggum mayakkam... and this is discovered by Nambiar who hatches a plan. CT initially opposes the union but Lalitha cleverly engages him in a debate and wins him over The marriage is set but not before Nambiar demands that the property is divided equally. Both Jai and Vani refuse to partition the pproperty and Nambiar's plans appear to have failed.

    CT wants to send the newly weds for honeymoon, but Lalitha insists that the whole family goes as CT and Seetha have never had the opportunity to be together. The double duet ulagil irandu kiligal comes on now.
    After the honeymoon and back at home, Lalitha collapses. The doctor is summoned and it is discovered that she is pregnant. Hearing this Seetha faints. The doctor attends to her and discovers she is pregnant.

    Nambiar and CKS go on yaathriai to pray for a healthy childbirth for thier daughter (vere edhukku, soththa abagarikkathaan )
    Both the ladies are admitted; Seetha gets suga prasavam while Lalitha's baby dies upon birth. The doctor also says that Lalitha will not be able conceive again and that her heart is very weak.
    The doctor, CT and Seetha all decide to switch babies.

    Two songs after that: pillai kali theera un annai vandhu sErndhaal and maathoora raamakka maappilai yaarukka.

    Nambiar and CKS come back and are shocked to see Seetha minding and feeding Lalitha's baby. Attempts are made to split them but all fails until the baby infects pneumonia and is on the verge of dying. Lalitha, thinking that Seetha brings bad luck moves to her parents' house, much to their delight. The cunning duo confuses Jaishankar's mind and entices him to send a letter asking for details of the property from CT.

    CT is shocked beyond words and instructs to gather all properties and lay them in the hall. He invites all the perusus and finally his brother and asks him to take his share. He keeps on asking Jaishankar to choose his half although all the property is laid out together. Only then Jaishankar and Vanishri realise that its either CT or the property. Jai chooses his brother but CT is adamant and wants to leave the house. Lalitha refuses to let them go and when they insist, she asks them to take away one more of their property....

    Watch the conclusion at your convenience!

    A thin string has been taken by KSG and spun into an interesting family yarn. Vanishri is excellent in her role while Nambiar and CKS excel as funny villain/villainess. Jaishankar
    And finally Nadigar Thilagam. While most of the story telling does not require a great actor like him, certain scenes were absolute showcase for his skills.

    Conclusion: nalla kudumba pada paarththa thirupththi. [/i]
    Never argue with a fool or he will drag you down to his level and beat you at it through sheer experience!

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