COPYING - IN TAMIL FILM HISTORY

**Music4Ever** · 7th April 2006, 07:51 AM

Reposting from another thread:

Coming to ripoffs I was exposed to a ghastly revelation today when someone brought the Desert Rose (Melodic Club Mix) - Sting/Cheb Mami to my attention. I swear I can see that song is the basis for the HJ's Kaaka Kaaka opener "Uyirin uyirE". Has this been discussed here?

Any comments from long time listeners? Vijayr?

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**thamizhvaanan** · 7th April 2006, 08:11 AM

i have listened to Desert rose (one of my favourites) but not the club remix one. whihc portion was similar music4ever? if u think it is the main tune, i feel both are different. may be a slight resemblance in KKs singing and sting's singing style.

**Chelian** · 7th April 2006, 10:18 AM

Music4ever -'I swear I can see that song is the basis for the HJ's Kaaka Kaaka opener "Uyirin uyirE". '

Well ,you are spot on Music4ever. I did mentioned this earlier.

**Music4Ever** · 7th April 2006, 06:55 PM

Thamizh, the following parts are unmistakeably ripped off from Desert Rose. I will comment more after I buy the CD this Saturday and listen fully. I only heard the one minute sample on the Internet. But the ripoff is clear and crystal.

Nagarum neruppai kozhundhu vitterindhEn
aNaindha pinbum kanalin mel erindhEn
.......
Neram kooda edhiriagi vida
yugangalaga veedum maari vida

Pooh! Kaakha Kaaka was the one album I thought HJ did a great job. Now the main song itself is a ripoff. Hopefully "Ennai konjam" is original, but you never know.

OK, here goes the basis for the Khalbali number by none other than our beloved ARR.

Same album: The number Pomegranate - Trans-Global Underground

**rashid2raj** · 7th April 2006, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by Music4Ever

OK, here goes the basis for the Khalbali number by none other than our beloved ARR.

Same album: The number Pomegranate - Trans-Global Underground

Basis for Khalbali?????

**thamizhvaanan** · 7th April 2006, 07:28 PM

well i dont spot anything apparently two of our hubbers feel so. wat do u ppl think, check out this link

http://www.amazon.com/gp/music/clips...413756-8165547

the song that u mentioned relating to khalbali, well at first it didn sound like khalbali at all, but it sounds somewat like a slowed down version of Khalbali. anyway all arabian musics are similar. the same tune has been used several times b4 in most of the "Arabian " songs. but i dont think ARR listened to this track especially to come up with khalbali. khalbali is a unique song in many ways and the only thing that makes us label it as Arabian is the lead tune, which obviously is very familiar.

so now wat am i saying??? HJ's song is fresh but ARR's isnt ???

**dinesh2002** · 7th April 2006, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by Music4Ever

Thamizh, the following parts are unmistakeably ripped off from Desert Rose. I will comment more after I buy the CD this Saturday and listen fully. I only heard the one minute sample on the Internet. But the ripoff is clear and crystal.

Nagarum neruppai kozhundhu vitterindhEn
aNaindha pinbum kanalin mel erindhEn
.......
Neram kooda edhiriagi vida
yugangalaga veedum maari vida

Pooh! Kaakha Kaaka was the one album I thought HJ did a great job. Now the main song itself is a ripoff. Hopefully "Ennai konjam" is original, but you never know.

OK, here goes the basis for the Khalbali number by none other than our beloved ARR.

Same album: The number Pomegranate - Trans-Global Underground

ennai konjum matri has shades from a Spice girls song...if im not mistaken...its " STOP right there "....

**dinesh2002** · 7th April 2006, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by thamizhvaanan

well i dont spot anything apparently two of our hubbers feel so. wat do u ppl think, check out this link

http://www.amazon.com/gp/music/clips...413756-8165547

the song that u mentioned relating to khalbali, well at first it didn sound like khalbali at all, but it sounds somewat like a slowed down version of Khalbali. anyway all arabian musics are similar. the same tune has been used several times b4 in most of the "Arabian " songs. but i dont think ARR listened to this track especially to come up with khalbali. khalbali is a unique song in many ways and the only thing that makes us label it as Arabian is the lead tune, which obviously is very familiar.

so now wat am i saying??? HJ's song is fresh but ARR's isnt ???

which HJ's song is fresh for u ???

**Scale** · 8th April 2006, 10:28 AM

M4E, Where can I hear this song?. This has been discussed widely for a long time and I never bothered to check this track.

Karthik, itwofs shud be knowing it.

**thamizhvaanan** · 8th April 2006, 07:55 PM

perform a search in amazon.com, for "trans global underground" plus pomegranate if u want. preview for the song is available and i think it has got the portions which M4E is talking of.