Illayaraja discussion on an American Forum

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ippadi yosinge!!john wiliams < namma IR..eppadi irruku?

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Please, JW is not all that great.
So what if he wins 5 Oscars or has countless Grammy nominations. Ppl only recognise him coz of his close association with Spielberg/Lucas. Any body heard of Fitwilly? Heidi? or The Cowboys. I doubt so. You ask ppl what u like abt JW and they will say the same ol' answer: SW, Superman, Jaws, Raiders. Try asking about Jerry Goldsmith and you will get a very varied answer.

Soundtrack listeners know who the genius is between these two(ie .JW and JG). AND THE REASON I BROUGHT UP JG IS 'COZ ONLY HE CAN BE COMPARED TO IR. Both are versatile and prolific and most important of all they excel in whatever genre their music/movies are set in. Another similarity between JG and IR is that their fans world over are still listening to their music from 40 years ago till date and 25 years ago till date respectively.

Btw, for those who think Star Wars or Superman theme is 'wow', try listening to King's Row.

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arr is hopeless, JW is not great, oscar and grammy are dumb recognition.

IR RULZ THE WORLD.

Hmmmm.

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its futile attempt.....

how can one make an american convice so easily that a composer that american never heard about is greater than their john williams ..who for americans is what IR is for tamilians .........

very difficult

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"The greatest film composer ever"

With due respect to the creative genius of IR, one can't vie for such accolades when he has inspirations from symphonies, Boney M, etc.
This is sheer fallacy.

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ambleen,

u mentioned abt who will remember this and remember that...
but it's good to know tat..u remember all those....

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I do not expect the westerners to appreciate IR's music simply for one reason.... they don't have any knowledge about our traditional form of music. If you ask someone to like HTNI, then that someone should have adequate knowledge of both western and our classical music, right? Those westerners are not the judges of world music... We should be proud that IR understood both forms of music and he blended them so well in HTNI and NBW. It's our treasure and their's.

If westerners (or Indians living abroad ?) appreciate ARR's music, that's because what ARR produces is mostly their music and not our music and so they have something they can relate to.

The fact is that we Indians can appreciate both carnatic music and western classicals such as Beetovan's and Bach etc... but they can't. If the westerners can't appreciate Thyagaraja's kritis, do you blame Thyagara for that? it's only their lack of knowledge and awareness..

We know more about music than the westerns and so don't judge the talent of IR or any other Indian composers based on their openion..

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corr: It's our treasure and NOT their's.

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Well said cho...Sounds logic...Ir is great for us...and let that be so always.