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24th May 2007, 08:06 PM
#11
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Reincarnation... in Scientific terms.... very interesting...
Our body is composed of cells which in turn made up of Chemical molecules which in turn made up of atoms which in turn of sub atomic particles which in turn of some finite particles which may in the form of matter or energy or may not exist also (anti-mater). So when our body decomposes (even in our day to day life, we shed lots of death skins) it may become part of another body with or without life. So reincarnation is scientifically possible but whether our mind ( collective intelligence) as whole or takes in to new body with possibility of remembering after decomposing of body is not a proven fact. In Buddhist line reincarnation is very simple. It is just like igniting one candle with another. The new light may be part of the old one, but new one is not the same old one. When our brain cell dies (after certain age, our brain cells die gradually, which is one the reason for loss of memory in old age), we loose all the neural networks and loose all the so called conscious.
Netrikan thirapinum kutram kutrame...
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24th May 2007 08:06 PM
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24th May 2007, 08:13 PM
#12
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Originally Posted by
Shakthiprabha
Originally Posted by
Raghu
4)How about taking incarnation in lower forms of evolved lives?
Gita says, if you indulge your self in EVIL crimes such as slaughtering animals, humans or any living organism, you take a birth as low-level species such as animals...
This is not convincing for me raghu. Evolution is scientific...
but that evolution process is BEAUTIFULY explaiend in DASAVATAR of lord VISHNU!
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24th May 2007, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by
r_kk
Reincarnation... in Scientific terms.... very interesting...
Our body is composed of cells which in turn made up of Chemical molecules which in turn made up of atoms which in turn of sub atomic particles which in turn of some finite particles which may in the form of matter or energy or may not exist also (anti-mater). So when our body decomposes (even in our day to day life, we shed lots of death skins) it may become part of another body with or without life. So reincarnation is scientifically possible but whether our mind ( collective intelligence) as whole or takes in to new body with possibility of remembering after decomposing of body is not a proven fact. In Buddhist line reincarnation is very simple. It is just like igniting one candle with another. The new light may be part of the old one, but new one is not the same old one. When our brain cell dies (after certain age, our brain cells die gradually, which is one the reason for loss of memory in old age), we loose all the neural networks and loose all the so called conscious.
Synchronizes quite a bit with my views rkk .
thanks for ur post.
Can u elaborate on ANTI-matter part
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24th May 2007, 11:36 PM
#14
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Originally Posted by
Raghu
Originally Posted by
Shakthiprabha
Originally Posted by
Raghu
4)How about taking incarnation in lower forms of evolved lives?
Gita says, if you indulge your self in EVIL crimes such as slaughtering animals, humans or any living organism, you take a birth as low-level species such as animals...
This is not convincing for me raghu. Evolution is scientific...
but that evolution process is BEAUTIFULY explaiend in DASAVATAR of lord VISHNU!
I agree raghu. I just feel REGRESSION is beyond me (not evolution)(
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26th May 2007, 08:21 AM
#15
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Originally Posted by
Raghu
SP acca,
4)How about taking incarnation in lower forms of evolved lives?
Gita says, if you indulge your self in EVIL crimes such as slaughtering animals, humans or any living organism, you take a birth as low-level species such as animals...
Ok, Raghu, a bad human being becomes an animal. Fine.
How can an animal act good to become a human being?
I dont see "reversibility" here!
This is a very big world!
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30th May 2007, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by
thamiz
Originally Posted by
Raghu
SP acca,
4)How about taking incarnation in lower forms of evolved lives?
Gita says, if you indulge your self in EVIL crimes such as slaughtering animals, humans or any living organism, you take a birth as low-level species such as animals...
Ok, Raghu, a bad human being becomes an animal. Fine.
How can an animal act good to become a human being?
I dont see "reversibility" here!
ma'am,
AS far as i know, atmas within animal bodies are re-born as animals, this is like an infinte loop?
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2nd June 2007, 11:16 PM
#17
The concept of re-incarnation and re-birth is dealt with in countless times in the Hindu scriptures. The various upanishads like Taittreeya and Manduka and verious other Brahmanas dwell heavily upon these areas. The philosophy of Dvaita and Advaita is based heavily on the concept of re-incarnations and re-birth.
Dvaita concept says that there is a strict distinction between God and the individual living beings (jivas). Souls are not 'created' by God but do nonetheless depend on him for their existence.
The Advaita concept on the other hand says that both are one and the same. Adi Shankaracharya was the propounder of this princile and He wrote commentaries on the Prasthana Trayi. A famous quote from Vivekacutamani, one of his Prakarana granthas (philosophical treatises) that succinctly summarises his philosophy is
Brahma satyam jagat mithyā, jīvo brahmaiva nāparah — Brahman is the only truth, the world is illusion, and there is ultimately no difference between Brahman and individual self
Not only did the Vedic culture believed in it, the Egyptians, Mesopotamians, Incas,were aware of this concept of re-birth and had many rituals and practices for that.
Now my question, is there a distinction between re-incarnation and re-birth
Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but we rather have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit - Aristotle
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4th June 2007, 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by
gilgamesh
The concept of re-incarnation and re-birth is dealt with in countless times in the Hindu scriptures. The various upanishads like Taittreeya and Manduka and verious other Brahmanas dwell heavily upon these areas. The philosophy of Dvaita and Advaita is based heavily on the concept of re-incarnations and re-birth.
Dvaita concept says that there is a strict distinction between God and the individual living beings (jivas). Souls are not 'created' by God but do nonetheless depend on him for their existence.
The Advaita concept on the other hand says that both are one and the same. Adi Shankaracharya was the propounder of this princile and He wrote commentaries on the Prasthana Trayi. A famous quote from Vivekacutamani, one of his Prakarana granthas (philosophical treatises) that succinctly summarises his philosophy is
Brahma satyam jagat mithyā, jīvo brahmaiva nāparah — Brahman is the only truth, the world is illusion, and there is ultimately no difference between Brahman and individual self
Not only did the Vedic culture believed in it, the Egyptians, Mesopotamians, Incas,were aware of this concept of re-birth and had many rituals and practices for that.
Now my question, is there a distinction between re-incarnation and re-birth
If Brahman and the Jiva are the same, then what is it that is being re-incarnated or re-born? One first needs to resolve this one, and then everything becomes clear as to what is reincarnation as opposed to rebirth, if there are any differences at all!
When we stop labouring under the delusion of our cosmic self-importance, we are free of hindrance, fear, worry and attachment. We are liberated!!!
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4th June 2007, 01:00 PM
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Badri,
Do you mean to say, BOTH re-incarnation and re-birth being the same, prior happens when, THE SOUL IS REALISED and happen to take another form in this world, WITH THE KNOWLEDGE or realisation?
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4th June 2007, 03:03 PM
#20
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Wow! nice twist!
No, that is not what I meant at all...
When we stop labouring under the delusion of our cosmic self-importance, we are free of hindrance, fear, worry and attachment. We are liberated!!!
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