UNIQUE Language TAMIL. How?

[s ramaswamy]

Hi all,,

Not only zha but i find most of the people in tn unable to distinguish between la and la (pl convert this into tamil) (ullam and illam), na and na (Kanavan and kanindu for ex). The largest no of such people exist in our private tamil tv channels. I have noted that only the govt channels like podhigai encourages readers with good "ucharippu". The private channels are a joke in this respect.

[Sudhaama]

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RAMAN, CHEZHIYAN and KRISHNAN in Tamil.!.?

In Tamil alone... we name the persons as Raman... Krishnan... Gopalan... Kalai-vaanan... (parallelly in Malyalam too.!)..

...while the Original Names as per the Epics are Rama, Krishna and so on.

From where... we got this "N"... in Tamil... far differing from most of the other Languages.?

In Tamil .. we say AVAN - AVAR... IVAN-IVAR ...EVAN-EVAR...etc...

.. where the "N" is of lower respect... while the "R" is a Respectable phonetic.

Same logic is applied here... when one introdues himselves...he says " I am RAMAN ...have come to worship the God RAMAR in the Temple"..

Thus he is able to diiferentiate his spirit of HUMBLENESS one one side alongwith REVERENCE to God on the other side.... even though both are of same Name.

So while we call or address that person... we don't say Hae Raman...

.. but as Hae Rama... to mean our respect to the person... named Raman.

Similarly a person named MATHIYAZHAHAN... is called by others as MATHI- AZHAHA ....

...lest it will mean Disrespect... or Denigration... in Tamil-sense.
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[sundararaj]

OANGI VULAHALHANDHA VUTHTHAMAN PAER PAADI.

Correct pronunciation: OANGI VULAHALHANDHA VUTHTHAMAN BARE BODY!!

OANGI VULAHALHANDA VUTHTHAMAN BEAR BODY

[sundararaj]

MUKA MAARUTAIYAVAN

MUKAM AARUTAIYAVAN

MUKAM AARU(6)UTAIYAVAN

[sundararaj]

Vairamuthuvin Varighalhil:
"Thamizhukku Zha Azhagu"

சரியாகச் சொன்னீர்! தமிழுக்கு "ழ" அழகுதான். ஆனால் தமிழர்களால் "ழ" - கரத்தை சரியாக உச்சரிக்க முடிவதில்லையே ஏன்? இது மிகவும் தர்மசங்கடமான ஒரு நிலை. Apart from Tamil Brahmins and Malayalees, there are hardly people who can pronounce this unique letter properly. The blame should squarely go on the government for not enforcing it as a pre-requisite during elementary school eduction. There is no proper training.

தமிழுக்கு "ழ" அழகு என்றால், அரபு மொழிக்கு "ض" (Lwad) அழகு. வேடிக்கை என்னவென்றால், அரபியர்களுக்கு நிகராக கேரளாவில் உள்ளவர்கள் மற்றும்தான் இந்த எழுத்தை சரியாக் உச்சரிக்கின்றனர். This letter "Lwad" is embedded in the "Allah" (اللّه) and it has to be pronouced properly. Interestingly, even non-Muslims in Kerala pronouce Allah correctly. If you watch any Malayalam movie, the word will be pronounced properly by all actors. On the contrary, look at our actors like Vadivelu and Cilambarasam (all good Tamil names), they murder Tamil.

இந்நிலை எப்பொழுது மாறுமோ!

''Tamizhan yentru sollataa - nee
talai kuninthu nillata''
Veru yennathaan sollarathu?

[podaango]

I am wondering why tamil language does not have seperate letters for

Pa, Ba, Ka, Ga, Sa, Cha, Ta, Da.????

[Sudhaama]

I am wondering why tamil language does not have seperate letters for

Pa, Ba, Ka, Ga, Sa, Cha, Ta, Da.????

This is the BASIC QUESTION..all are interested to know...

... since are Reasonable to Question.

...which I have elaborately and analytically answered in my previous postings...especially in the Beginning of this Thread.

AFTER GOING THROUGH.... ALL SUCH DUE ANSWERS ...UNDER THIS THREAD... for your above Question...

..if You still have any Question furthermore to ask...Welcome.

Affectionately,
Sudhaama
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[sundararaj]

Wealth of information here. Thanks

[Sudhaama]

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.Why LAUGH at.. TAMIL the Classical Language.?. GREAT.!!!

I am wondering why tamil language does not have seperate letters for

Pa, Ba, Ka, Ga, Sa, Cha, Ta, Da.????

This is the BASIC QUESTION..all are interested to know...

... since are Reasonable to Question.

...which I have elaborately and analytically answered in my previous postings...especially in the Beginning of this Thread.

AFTER GOING THROUGH.... ALL SUCH DUE ANSWERS ...UNDER THIS THREAD... for your above Question...

..if You still have any Question furthermore to ask...Welcome.

Affectionately,
Sudhaama
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There are several World Languages, where we do not have such SUB-CLASSIFIED Phonetics ..

..like PHA... BHA... CHCHA... JHA...THA...DHA...etc...

Which TOUGH PRONUNCIATIONS.. Tamil Language does not need...

...nor find it necessary for its expressions...

...Except the cases of TRANSLITERATION of another Language Words... into Tamil-Script.

Such difficulty is prevalent in several World Languages... for Transliteration and even Pronunciation.

For example the pronunciation of "Z" does not exist in any Indian Language including Tamil...

..but we still manage in our Languages... by using nearabout Letter-forms of each language.

Other Indians mock at Tamil-Language on this Count of PHA, BHA type facility NON-AVAILABILITY...

...because SANSKRIT IS THE MOTHER of All Indian Languages EXCEPT TAMIL..

..and also they consider Sanskrit is the ONLY DIVINE LANGUAGE.... DEVA-BHASHA.

Whereas they do not know that Tamil also is a DEVA-BASHA... Equally DIVINE.

So the ignorant Indians who do not know the GREATNESS of the CLASSICAL International Language TAMIL...

... Believe SELF-CENTREDLY... that Sanskrit letters and pronunciation ALONE are the Basic Standards...

.. as well as the YARDSTICK for other Indian Languages.!!! FUNNY.!!!

The interesting factor is... there are several Commonman's Phonetics to differentiate Kurhil and Nedil... in any Language...

...which can be neither pronounced nor written in all such Sanskrit-based North Indian Languages...

..rather they cannot differentiate between...

Kent...Kant... Then-Than... Won-Worn...Well-Whale... etc.

...common to International Languages...

So will they not mock at North Indian Languages...?

Even some IMPORTANT Phonetics are not available in some Popular World Languages.

For example...in the Japanese Language...

... there is No pronunciation of R..RA...RI...REE... RU...RO...

...and T, TA, TI, TEE, TO, TOA...

...and also DA...DI...DEE...DU...DOO...etc.

So when the commoner Japanese speak English... they say...

..ITH... is...VELY VELY ...GUDH.!!.. PUTH...ITH...there on LIGHT LOW SEATH...

..to mean... It is Very Very Good. Put it there on Right Row seat.!!

So any Language cannot and should not be treated as YARDSTICK for some other Language.

Each Language has got its Own Uniqueness and Values...

...while some of them are GREAT.!!

..How and Why?... Already Several Non-Tamilian Foreigners have proved and ESTABLISHED SO...

...the Latest is Mr. Harts, a Born American...

...who travelled all along to Tamilnadu, India...

...just to learn Advanced Tamil... and then made deep Research on Linguism... on World Classical Languages.

..since turned TAMIL-SCHOLAR.... who declares ASSERTIVELY with justifications...

...that Tamil is undoubtedly the GREAT...

... Ancient Classical Language INTERNATIONALLY !!!
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[Sudhaama]

.//.it will be not at all difficult to learn most of the other Indian Languages...

..since they all are SANSKRIT-BASED... with different forms and styles of presentation...

...EXCEPT TAMIL.. the One and the ONLY INDIAN LANGUAGE... NOT SANSKRIT-BASED. //

Got bowled over by the above statement!

I briefly answer here.. to the above valid Question.

Yes... Some of the points what we all studied.... [ "WE" includes Ms. PP Madam also]...

..is different and far from the truth... proved by authentic History and Literature.

Until my School days... I too had some such doubts and questions on the non-corroborations...

.. amongst the various Authentic Global Research findings themselves.

Then, not only by verifying with my Lecturers as well as several Scholars on Linguistics...

..plus references in Connemara Library at Chennai...

...especially from the Research Book by Mr. Suneethi kumar Chatterji... on DRAVIDIAN LANGUAGES of India..

..the UNDISPUTABLE ULTIMATE findings by Research.

...I got fully convinced on the following Authentic conclusions..

(1) All other Dravidian Languages, so called South-Indian Languages...

...e.g. Telugu, Kannada, Malayalam and Tulu...

...have ORIGINATED FROM TAMIL... the Route-Language..

...the Second Classical Language of India.... parallel to another Classical Language Sanskrit.

He has proved by his elaborate analysis.

(2) All other Indian Languages in the SUBSEQUENT FORM in India...

..[ after their Original forms shaped as ACHA-TELUGU... HALHAE KANNADA... and EZHUTHTHACHCHAN MALAYALAM]...

..are SANSKRIT-BASED in general...so to mean... their Vocabularies contents are more of Sanskrit ...

..in consequence of which... all those Indian Languages cannot exist without the admixture of Sanskrit vocabulary..

...contrary to the only Indian Language NOT SANSKRIT-BASED but independant on its own.... is TAMIL..

..even though much of the present Tamil Vocabulary have been taken up from Sanskrit too.

This truth can be ascertained from the fact...

..that in all other Indian Languages... the more we deliver Sanskrit Vocabulary admixture...

..it is considered RICHER...either by Literature Value.. or for Dais Lectures

Whereas it is totally CONTRARY IN CASE OF TAMIL.

So to say in case of Tamil... the more we avoid Sanskrit-vocabulary admixture...

..it is considered RICHER TAMIL...named SENTHAMIZH..

This strange phenomena can be observed and adjudged from the Literatures of all the Indian Languages.

So Tamil is equally an independant CLASSICAL WORLD LANGUAGE...

..at par with Sanskrit...which is used by all Indians...especially Hindus.

(3) This factor has been further analysed and ascertained by Dr Hart, the American-born Tamil-Scholar...

..Chief Professor and Head of Tamil Dept.. Berkeley University, USA..

Only after his timely intervention and convincing the India Govt...

...Tamil has been made the Second Classical Language of India.
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