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Thread: Nadigar Thilagam Sivaji Ganesan (Part 2)

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    Can someone cover PADITHAL MATTUM PODHUMA ?

    I like that song Annan katiya vaziyamma ( this song covers the entire movie theme )

    NT's hairstyle, dressing style all diff.

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    Dear Saradhaa,

    Thanks for the corrections. In fact I realised today morning ( I posted yesterday) that I had mistakenly typed Pictures instead of Films. As you should be aware, Sivaji Films had come into existence in the early 50's itself, when they took up Distribution and if I am not off the mark,"Amara Deepam" was the first movie they distributed. Again if I am not wrong, the present Sivaji Films office at Besant Road, Royapettah was the place where NT stayed before he moved over to Annai Illam.

    In the Part I of NT, while answering a specific question from our friend and fellow hubber Prabhu Ram, I had mentioed all banners floated in NT family members name. In fact I had also mentioned about the textile mill owned by NT in the name of Prabhu Ram Mills that was functioning at Chenganoor a place near Kottayam in Kerala. In your list one small correction. The producer of "Neela Vanam" was Pattu Films. Other than Annai Illam, I think Kamala Movies produced Paaladai.

    One more thing that I would like to add about PP was one comment I heard. I was having a general discussion about PP with Mohanram sir. He said only one point. " Endha Nadigan sir camera-vai paarthu Mookai sindhuvan? Athile ellam adangiruchu".

    Regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murali Srinivas
    One more thing that I would like to add about PP was one comment I heard. I was having a general discussion about PP with Mohanram sir. He said only one point. " Endha Nadigan sir camera-vai paarthu Mookai sindhuvan? Athile ellam adangiruchu". Regards
    Enna Murali Anna , innum PP ninaivugal dhanaa !

    I think Rajesh KRV also had summarised nicely !

    The climax scene had all the NT elements , including that mookai sindhum scene so natural and spontaneous, we used to watch even that with a surprise

    Few more scenes , wish to mention :

    1. When Sowcar gets introduced , NT with all the etiquette say - Pleased to meet you ( with his usual slightly bent style 0
    for which Sowcar - So am I ! ( with all the grace )
    Sowcar possess high fluency is English and her style was unique !

    2. When that old servant asks NT ( when he visits the bungalow ) , Thambi enna ungalukku nyabagam irukaa ?
    Immediately, NT with all the cheer - Raju Thathaaaaa

    3. Continuing with 2nd above, when that old man goes further and says , Thambi munne ellam indha veedu romba kala kalapa irukkum . ( up to this point, NT will show a cheerful face ). Anaa ippo ellam ( now the camera goes close to NT and his face turns red and full of tears like a flash ).

    4. When NT reveals to Saroja Devi for the first time that he is already married, he will give an embarrased look . Oru vidhamana dharuma sangadathodu pesuvaar !

    5. Up to Enge nimmadhi, he will maintain a high level of etiquette, that of a rich man ( rightly mentioned by Rajesh KRV ) but once he starts panicking, he will vent his frustration on everyone , especially M.R.Radha and Sowcar 2.

    6. Finally, when his friend and inspector OAKD gives an idea about finger prints, he will jump in joy ...... Dei Ranga , regai regai .....

    An unforgettable movie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nakeeran
    Can someone cover PADITHAL MATTUM PODHUMA ?

    I like that song Annan katiya vaziyamma ( this song covers the entire movie theme )

    NT's hairstyle, dressing style all diff.
    I dont know what you mean by 'covering'. However, PMP is one of the best movies from Bheemsingh, imho.

    Shivaji is an uneducated, loving, caring brutal youngest son. He has an older borhter (I guess he is adopted ?) who is Balaji. Balaji is an educated -and so cunning -and shrewd and manipulative personality.

    I think thier parents want to find matches for their sons. An educated girl for Balaji and a 'civilized illiterate' for Shivaji. As these brothers love each other so much, they kind of go to see the 'bride' of their brothers'. Shivaji will go see RajaslochanA -who is educated and daughter of Raobagathoor, RangaRao. And Balaji will go see his brother's future wife, that is shavithri.

    Balaji will fall in lve with Savithri and manipulate the situation by writing a letter to rajaslochanA ?. Anyway, THERE will be a MISMATCH between shivaji and rajslochanA. She will hate him after marriage.

    You remember the line????

    iravu nEram piRarai pOle ennaiyum koLLUm thuNai irunthum illai enRu pOnaal oorenna sollum?

    That comes out of frustration and the serious marital problems between sivaji and rs. Since shivaji is brutal and uneducated, the whole family will turn against him except shavithri- she is always kind and loving. The pity is Shivaji is INNOCENT!

    In the climax shivaji will learn the truth and realize that HIS BROTHER BETRAYED him by finding out the LETTER balaji wrote.

    As he is a hunter, he will go with the gun and 'confront' Balaji. Shavithri will try pulling that gun away. But they will fire a shot and kill balaji!

    There is court scene and they will dismiss the case as an accident!
    This is a very big world!

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    To add some juice to Annan katiya vaziamma :

    Avanai ninathe naan irundhen, avan thannai ninaithe vaanzdhirundhan

    This summarizes the story ! ( Shivaji about Balajee character )

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    "அண்ணன் காட்டிய வழியம்மா"

    1956 ல் 'பதிபக்தி' யில் தொடங்கி 1970 ல் நடிகர் திலகத்தை வைத்து கடைசியாக இயக்கிய 'பாதுகாப்பு' வரையில் 'ப' மற்றும் 'பா' வரிசையில் மட்டுமே படங்களை இயக்கிய பீம்சிங் (விதிவிலக்கு: ராஜாராணி, சாந்தி) அந்த வரிசையில் இயக்கிய அற்புதப் படைப்புதான் 'படித்தால் மட்டும் போதுமா'.

    1962 ல் வெளியான படித்தால் மட்டும் போதுமா, 1961 லேயே படப்பிடிப்பு நடந்து வந்தது. அப்போதுதான் கவிஞர் கண்ணதாசன் தி.மு.க.வை விட்டு விலகி (ஏப்ரல் 11, 1961) ஈ.வெ.கி.சம்பத் தலைமையில் தமிழ் தேசியக் கட்சியைத் துவங்கி அதில் முக்கிய பொறுப்பிலிருந்தார். அப்போது அவர் எழுதிய பாடல்களிலும் கட்டுரைகளிலும் தி.மு.க.தலைவர் அண்ணாதுரையை கடுமையாக தாக்கி வந்தார். அந்த நேரம் பார்த்து இயக்குனர் பீம்சிங், படித்தால் மட்டும் போதுமாவுக்காக, தம்பியை ஏமாற்றிய அண்ணனைப்பற்றி பாடல் எழுத வேண்டும் என்று கேட்டபோது, கவிஞருக்கு அண்ணாதுரையை தாக்க அருமையான சந்தர்ப்பம் கிடைத்தது என்று மகிழ்ந்து, உடனே விஸ்வநாதன் - ராமமூர்த்தி குழுவினருடன் அமர்ந்து விட்டார்.

    அவர் பாடல் வரிகளைச் சொல்லச் சொல்ல இவர்களுக்கு சிவாஜியை ஏமாற்றிய பாலாஜியைப் பற்றித்தான் சொல்கிறார் என்று நினைத்தார்கள். படம் வெளியான பின்புதான் கவிஞர் சொன்னார், அது அண்ணாதுரையை தாக்கி நான் எழுதியது என்று.

    "அண்ணன் காட்டிய வழியம்மா - இது
    அன்பால் விளைந்த பழியம்மா
    கண்ணை இமையே கெடுத்ததம்மா - என்
    கையே என்னை அடித்ததம்மா

    தொட்டால் சுடுவது நெருப்பாகும்
    தொடாமல் சுடுவது சிரிப்பாகும்
    தெரிந்தே கெடுப்பது பகையாகும்
    தெரியாமல் கெடுப்பது உறவாகும்

    அடைக்கலம் என்றே நானிருந்தேன்
    அணைத்தவனே நெஞ்சை எரித்து விட்டான்
    கொடுத்தருள்வாய் என்று வேண்டி நின்றேன்
    கும்பிட்ட கைகளை முறித்து விட்டான்

    அவனை நினைத்தே நானிருந்தேன் - அவன்
    தன்னை நினைத்தே வாழ்ந்திருந்தான்
    இன்னும் அவனை மறக்கவில்லை - அவன்
    இத்தனை செய்தும் நான் வெறுக்கவில்லை


    அண்ணன் காட்டிய வழியம்மா - இது
    அன்பால் விளைந்த பழியம்மா
    கண்ணை இமையே கெடுத்ததம்மா - என்
    கையே என்னை அடித்ததம்மா"

    ஒவ்வொரு சரணம் முடிந்து பல்லவி ஆரம்பிக்கும்போதும் எம்.எஸ்.வி.ஒரு சிறிய நாதஸ்வர 'டச்' கொடுப்பார் பாருங்கள் (மவனே, உனக்குத்தாண்டா இதெல்லாம் வரும்).

    கவிஞரைப் பொறுத்தவரை அந்தந்த சூழ்நிலைக்கு தகுந்தவாறு தன்னுடைய சொந்த விஷயங்களுக்கு சினிமா பாடல்களை பயன் படுத்திக்கொள்வது வழக்கம். அதனால்தான், தான் காமராஜருடன் சேரவிருப்பதை, அரசியலுக்கே சம்மந்தம் இல்லாத ஜெய்சங்கர் - கே.ஆர்.விஜயா பாடும் டூயட் பாட்டில்

    "அந்த சிவகாமி மகனிடம் சேதி சொல்லடி
    என்னை சேரும் நாள் பார்க்க சொல்லடி"

    என்று எழுதினார். அதேபோல 1968 ல் அண்ணாதுரை அமெரிக்காவில் சிகிச்சை பெற்று திரும்பியபோது

    "நலந்தானா.. நலந்தானா.. உடலும் உள்ளமும் நலம்தானா.."

    என்று எழுதினார்.

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    vandha oru storm madhiri dhan varuveengalo Saradha Chechi ?!

    Every post of yours has so much information !

    What you said is absolutely true about Kavignar .

    Hats off to you

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    Quote Originally Posted by thamiz
    That comes out of frustration and the serious marital problems between sivaji and Raja Sulochana. Since shivaji is brutal and uneducated, the whole family will turn against him except shavithri- she is always kind and loving. The pity is Shivaji is INNOCENT!
    உண்மைதான். சிவாஜியிடம் அவரது அண்ணி சாவித்திரியும் தாய் கண்ணாம்பாவும் மட்டுமே பிரியம் காட்டுவார்கள்.

    ஒரு சமயம் வேட்டைக்குப்போகும் கோபால் (சிவாஜி) தன் அண்ணனனிடம் சொல்லிக்கொண்டு போக அண்ணன் வீட்டுக்கு வருவார். அப்போது அண்ணன் இல்லாததால் அண்ணி சாவித்திரி மட்டும் இருப்பார். தனக்கு காப்பி எடுத்து வர உள்ளே போகும் சாவித்திரியைப் பார்த்து தனக்குள்ளேயே சொல்லிக்கொள்வார்

    "என்ன கனிவு, என்ன அன்பு. எனக்கு கிடைத்த இரண்டாவது தாய்"

    காப்பியை குடித்து விட்டு துப்பாக்கியை தூக்கிக்கொண்டு போகும் சிவாஜியைப் பார்த்துக்கொண்டே சாவித்திரி தனக்குள் சொல்லிக்கொள்வார்:

    "அண்ணன் மேல பாசம், அண்ணி மேல பக்தி, வில்லுக்கு பதில் துப்பாக்கி. அப்படியே லட்சுமணனேதான்".

    எப்படி ஒரு மரியாதையான குடும்ப பினைப்பு.

    அண்ணன் ஆரூர்தாஸ் வாழ்க...!!.

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    Adadadaa Adhukkulla innoru posta

    I always used to wonder why Padithal mattum podhuma is not consdired by critics ?

    Majority always went for Palum pazamum / parthal pasi theerum / pasa malar

    but never touched this movie ! IMHO, NT's portrayal as someone uneducated but good at heart was splendid

    What he expects from his wife was excellently reflected by Kavignar and MSV-TKR through the song :

    Naan kavignanum illai
    nalla rasiganum illai
    kadhalenum aasailla bommayum illai

    Iravu neram pirarai pole ennayum kollum
    thunai irundhum illai endru ponal oor enna sollum

    Kaatu manai vettayada thayanga vilaye
    indha veetu maanin ullam eno vilangavillaye

    Naan kondu vandha pen manadhil penmai illaye !

    Mere words are sufficient to run a movie

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    Andha Naal - a real suspense thriller and an epic of a movie



    For once let us analyze the scenario prevailed when NT made his debut & lets have a rewind of the past history of tamil cinema and the trend then.

    During this period, ( I mean the 50s and the 60s ), majority of the themes were oriented either towards history based characters or raja rani type movies at the one end with Makkal Thilagam as the lead hero ( of course others like Ranjan, M.K.Radha, Gemini G were also there ) and social themes made by the likes of Sridhar, Mukaa , Bhimsinghetc .

    But one exception was S.BALACHANDER who always used to think different , created a real suspense thriller of a movie ANDHA NAAL

    Yes, long before Pudhiya Paravai, rather during the formative years , Nadigar Thilagam had acted in an extordinary movie ANDHA NAAL .

    It was released in 1954, 2 years after his debut in cinema .

    A movie sans songs !! and that too from a musical genius like S.Balachander !

    The core theme of Andha Naal is that of a traitor who sold his countryís secrets to the enemy country ( Japan at that time ) . Its actually an ANTIHERO type character .

    The story timing relates to 1943 ( in relation to World war 2).

    Young and aspiring Radio Engineer Rajan ( NT ) sets ambitious plans to launch low priced Radio sets to the unaffordable mass but the lack of takers and backing support for his dream concept makes him go the extreme way possible. Yes, he becomes a spy to Japanese and provides vital information from time to time through some hi-tech communicating device invented by him in a secret chamber of his but gets killed by his wife Pandaribhai accidentally while she tries to pull away the pistol out of his hands but this truth is buried by the Director .

    The movie starts with the mourning of the dead Rajan character and as the first information report suspected a murder , 2 detectives from police dept. start their process. One was Javar Seetharaman who also penned the story . So, a strange movie wherein the hero ? character is no more in the beginning itself !

    And exactly the same day after Japan bombed Chennai in 1941, NT gets killed by a single bullet shot at his house itself . Hearing the sound , his neighbour lodges to the police dept and thatís how everything gets known .

    Other than his wife , his brother, his brotherís wife and a dancer were the prime suspects to the case.

    Interestingly, each suspect will try to accuse the other as the culprits ( except ofcourse Pandaribhai who will remain silent and crestfallen )

    So its all about a police investigation and zeroing in on finding the culprit finally.

    Through Javar Seetharamanís probe ( the CID ) at 4 characters who all revolved around that Rajan , S.B. deliberately misleads the audience by giving an impression from those angles as if he must have been killed like this for this reason only Ö.. and the movie gets into a fix at one stage wherein the police could not move further on any further clues as to who would have been the real culprit behind the killing. But the manner in which each person gets probed, the audience will conclude that yes this guy must have done this etc etc.

    A desperate Javer Sitaraman finally gets to read some words like :

    1. Kondu vandhalum varavitalum - thai
    2. Seerkondu varuvan Ė sagodharan
    3. Uyir kaapaan - thozan
    4. Kolayum seival - Pathini !!

    And this quote creates a spark and zeroes on his target. He finally summons all those characters and asks them to shoot a dummy of Rajan and watches them how they react. While everyone shoot without any fuss, when it comes to Pandari Bhai, she collapses and screams loudly - No no, I will not !!

    And now she reveals the truth on how she kills her husband NT !

    Rajan meets Pandari Bhai a highly patriotic woman , who is a college student . As they meet accidentally and charmed by some good qualities of both fall in love and get married. On a business trip NT visits Japan, becomes their informer / spy and uses this method to avenge India .

    A significant change in NTís attitude puzzles Pandaribhai as he starts talking anti national and his moves are very suspicious. So one night , she accidentally steps inside his room and finds all hitech communication devices and questions him strongly. When NT reveals his true identity, she gets upset with him and pleads him and ultimately warns him to give up. NT doesnít like her poking and takes a revolver to threaten her but as he tries to grab it from him, accidentally her fingers trigger the pistol and NT dies in the process.

    S.Balachander, though we all know him as a musical genius and a Veena expert, he started his career on the lines of cinema only but later took up veena seriously and rest is history.

    Though the theme is an inspiration from five angles on murder , the Woman in Question, based on a script by John Cresswell and directed by Anthony Asquith, SBalachander takes the story in a manner reachable to tamil audience and makes it very fascinating to watch. SB also made movies like Bommai , Naduiravil ( all thriller ) . Incidentally, it was SB who introduced KJ Yesudas through Bommai ( neeyum bommai naanum bommai song ). If SB had continued to focus on cinema, we would have seen more innovative themes .

    When the CID Javer Sitaraman moves to round 3 of his investigation, there arises a plethora of probabilities and possibilities thereby getting suspicion on each character.

    Superb camera work all through the movie. At times, the camera becomes the main characters NT and Pandaribhai ! . Really it was way ahead of times for tamil cinema.

    I will go one step further and say that one should watch this movie purely for camera work !

    Despite a mind blowing theme and a movie way ahead of times, sadly, it did not generate enough cash flows and was not a commercial success.

    Guess who was the producer ? It was AVMeyappan ! who wanted atleast one song but a stubborn Balachander convinced him that a single song will not create an impact to the movie and better lets have it without any song and so be it.

    Though it was not a commercial hit, it elicited good reviews, won the Certificate for Best Feature Film and the Award for the Best Film of 1954 from Madras Film Fans Association.

    The great AVM was so passionate about this movie that he had mentioned in his autobiography that the high class intellectual society liked / appreciated this movie .

    Javer Sitaraman ( as we all know that Bannerman character who orders Kattabomman to be hanged finally in VPK and also that famous bootham in Pattanathil bootham movie ) who wrote the script and story performs his part extremely well. He had a unique way of dialogue delivery .

    The so called climax scene between NT and Pandaribhai , will have lots of verbal exchanges, quite interesting to see ! While NT will be pouring his frustration on nation and how it ditched his prospects and what made him to turn a betrayer, Pandaribhai will be all graceful and full of energy and anger personified and shoot back pin point replies to all his posers . At one stage she will emerge dominant and this makes Rajan character go berserk and the end.

    Again , what makes this movie stand apart and look an odd one out is the way the story was narrated wherein the audience are shown one single incident from each characterís perspective .

    I would consider this movie , a milestone in tamil cinema. Not sure whether such themes were handled in hindi cinema industry earlier.

    Our NT will be flesh and blood . One can see a young aspiring NT in stage 1 , a depressed youngster in stage 2 and finally an aggressive traitor in stage 3 . His body language will be terrific when he tries to justify his act before Pandaribhai.

    Look at his eyes as it will glow the moment a call comes from Japan and how restless he will be and the way he communicates with them will all be terrific !

    Pandaribhai, the great lady who was incidentally NTís first pair through Parasakthi plays her part in a splendid manner . She was one of veteran artists who excelled in every role given. See the same Pandaribhai in Deiva magan and you will feel the difference. Again amazing will be this Pandaribhai in Gouravam as someone jammed between husband and son .

    Though today , this may not arouse that much thrill , the suspense factor will make you sit and watch even today. Imagine such a novel theme experimented way back in the early 50s !

    Right from the opening scene to the end , the movie moves at brisk pace and I bet you will not go for a tea break at any point of time !

    NT was expected to portray both as a nice guy and also a wicked traitor & he does it with effortless ease and flawlessly. The greatness of him was the utter disregard for a hero image . The character also smokes and has a mild affair with a dancer. Incidentally, in the same year, NT also did the one and only movie with Makkal thilagam ( Koondu kili ) which also was a different character.

    NT also had a nice make up and dressing pattern. At times, he appears with a hat and a big coat ! Youthfulness pervades and a vibrant NT can be seen with enthu.

    One of the best movies of tamil cinema industry itself is Andha Naal.

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