why many researchers use proto-dravidian instead of tamil

**santhanv** · 8th June 2006, 06:39 PM

Hello everybody,

I just want to share with you what I know about Sanskrit. Please correct me, if I am not right.

Sanskrit is not a language spoken by anybody, but it is developed by Odhuvar or priests for praising God, and pronouncing Mandhirangal(Manthras) two millennium ago. Odhuvar were those who involved only in conducting Sacred rituals in Daily Poosai(Pooja) and pronouncing Mandhirangal(Manthras).

Only Odhuvar knew Sanskrit and they used only in Temple for pronouncing Mandhirangal (Manthras). In day to day life, Odhuvar spoke tamizh.

After some period, Odhuvar claimed that Sanskrit was Language of God.

Odhuvar became Brahmin, who are still conducting rituals in temple and pronouncing Mandhirangal (Manthras).

New information - Few days back, Kalaingar announced that anybody can become Archagar(priest). I appreciate his move. on this. I also read that Brahmins opposed this.

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**bis_mala** · 8th June 2006, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by santhanv

Hello everybody,

I just want to share with you what I know about Sanskrit. Please correct me, if I am not right.

Sanskrit is not a language spoken by anybody, but it is developed by Odhuvar or priests for praising God, and pronouncing Mandhirangal(Manthras) two millennium ago. Odhuvar were those who involved only in conducting Sacred rituals in Daily Poosai(Pooja) and pronouncing Mandhirangal(Manthras).

Only Odhuvar knew Sanskrit and they used only in Temple for pronouncing Mandhirangal (Manthras). In day to day life, Odhuvar spoke tamizh.

After some period, Odhuvar claimed that Sanskrit was Language of God.

Odhuvar became Brahmin, who are still conducting rituals in temple and pronouncing Mandhirangal (Manthras).

New information - Few days back, Kalaingar announced that anybody can become Archagar(priest). I appreciate his move. on this. I also read that Brahmins opposed this.

We also must bear in mind that most writers and poets in Sanskrit apaarently were not Brahmanas. Vethavyasan (Mahabharatha) was of ftraditionally fisherman profression. Vaalmiki was an Athivasi.(hunter).
Researchers say many of the veda composers were also not BrahmaNa.
The connection between Br and Sans is that Sanskirt is their "working" language when they perform the priestly job. Even Kamban who translated Ramayana from Sans to Tamiz was no BrahmaNa.

People of other religions such as Jains and Bhuddists had/have also used Sanskrit (or some related language)

It is just a language there for anybody who wants to use it.

**crazy** · 9th June 2006, 12:05 PM

Tamizhs are everywhere in the world. But there is no country for Tamizhs

**Eelavar** · 9th June 2006, 04:06 PM

Crazy,

Tamil 'Nadu' is really a hypocrisy..
Nadu means country.. But it is an indian state !
Tamil Nadu will be very developped if it was not an indian state !
TN contribuate to develop the other states !

If GOSL and SLA continue this daily killing of Tamil people in NE of Sri lanka, Eelam will be the first modern tamil country..

(www.tamilnet.com to follow this slow genocide, by example http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=18447)

**crazy** · 9th June 2006, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by Eelavar

Crazy,

Tamil 'Nadu' is really a hypocrisy..
Nadu means country.. But it is an indian state !

If GOSL and SLA continue this daily killing of Tamil people in NE of Sri lanka, Eelam will be the first and modern tamil country..

(www.tamilnet.com to follow this slow genocide)

i know that!

God bless us, it will be the very first tamil country!

iam waiting for that wonderful day!

**Eelavar** · 9th June 2006, 04:15 PM

Yes Crazy God bless us .

**crazy** · 9th June 2006, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by Eelavar

Yes Crazy God bless us .

**podalangai** · 10th June 2006, 01:47 AM

Originally Posted by Eelavar

Tamil 'Nadu' is really a hypocrisy..
Nadu means country.. But it is an indian state !

Adeyappa! "Nadu" does not have to mean independent country. It can also simply mean "idam", or even "ulakam". For us Indian Tamils, Tamil Nadu *is* our thaaynaadu in a very deep way. Fortunately, we do not have to choose between our Tamil thaay and India. There is no contradiction in our naadu being a part of India, because it still belongs to us.

Originally Posted by Eelavar

Tamil Nadu will be very developped if it was not an indian state !
TN contribuate to develop the other states !

We contribute much more than even most Tamils realise. But think how many thousands of our youth would have died if we had had to fight India. After the events of the 1960s (and particularly the DMK's election gains in 1962), India has treated us with respect and honour. What would we have gained through the fight? Money is not worth so much.

But it is a funny thing. In the early 1950s Tamils in Tamil Nadu wanted to break away from India. This was considered one of the biggest threats to Indian unity then. In Sri Lanka at that time, Jaffna Tamils thought Chelvanayagam was being unnecessarily quarrelsome when he asked even for federalism. As it turned out, we in Tamil Nadu received more concessions from India than we had thought we would (even today, TN is the only state to which the Official Languages Order does not apply). It was exactly the opposite for you in Sri Lanka. At that time, I don't think anyone would have thought that it would end up like this.

Seri pa, enough seriousness from me.

**Eelavar** · 10th June 2006, 04:05 PM

Thanks podalangai for your reaction.

For me Nadu does mean country and not a 'idam' or place.
By chance Tamil's struggle in Sri lanka helped Tamils in India to get the respect of India, unfortunately it is still not the case for us..

Now Tamils of India must help Sri lankan tamil to obtain a federal system or a separate state if federalism is not possible with this chauvinist govt.

TN is the richest state i think. It is a state which produce richness.

**srivatsan** · 10th June 2006, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by Eelavar

Thanks podalangai for your reaction.

For me Nadu does mean country and not a 'idam' or place.
By chance Tamil's struggle in Sri lanka helped Tamils in India to get the respect of India, .

Just for being a part of Bharatham is our pride....and dont think, that we got pride by your struggle!

Originally Posted by Eelavar

Now Tamils of India must help Sri lankan tamil to obtain a federal system or a separate state if federalism is not possible with this chauvinist govt..

This is the problem between two sects in Srilanka. As a neighbour, may be we can do something to ease the tention. But this is not our duty or some thing.

Originally Posted by Eelavar

TN is the richest state i think. It is a state which produce richness.

TN is not the richest state. Infact, we have worst natural resources.....and our state has been shattered by the continuous rule of Dravidian Parties...