Is tamil derived from Sanskrit

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Thil was actually an expletive, a syllable sound without meaning occupying the interlude., correspondingly known in kavithai as “asaichchol” thil + aanaa = thllaana. Aaku> aana (from peyarechcham).

Jathiiswaram refers to notes interspersed with jathis ( rhythmic footwork one after another)
Thaam-thi-thai shortened to tha-thi and corrupted to chathi then Sanskritized to jathi.


Chura(ththal) (=flowing) > sura > suram > Sanskritized to swaram..


Alaarippu means “expanded dance performace” from alar(thal) = malarthal. = expanding (also flower blooming)

Alarppu > allaarippu.

[bis_mala]

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[bis_mala]

Mr Karuvaadu, make a collection of such words with opposite meanings for fun!!

Madhu can also mean alcohol, isn't it?

My knowledge in Tamil is extra orordinary poor and I remember of certain things from my vast memory immediately when you come up with intial words.

matham (Tamil?) has two different meanings for example!

matham is religion as well as elephant running wild!

Just a comment:
Some religious humanoids also mathaththaal matham pidiththavarkaL (Well said isn't it?)
I am once again suprised at Tamil!

You are right. Busy. will revert later Mr Karu!!

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Rendering music(al notes) with dance footwork.

Thanks, will return.

[rajraj]

Mala: Bharatha was explained by a dancer as standing for bhavam,raagam and thaaLam. You differ from that.

[bis_mala]

Mala: Bharatha was explained by a dancer as standing for bhavam,raagam and thaaLam. You differ from that.

That was an excellent explanation ex post facto.

Perhaps I can share with you the following "explanations"

There are 3 political parties in Singapore, where I work. They are PAP, WP and SDP. These stand for: People's Action Party, Workers' Party and Singapore Democratic Party.

Someone coined a joke as follows:

PAP = Pay and Pay. (referring to heavy taxation policy in some respects).
WP = why Pay? (This party was opposing the fiscal policies of the govt)
SDP = So Don't Pay!! ( This party may have told people to default paying taxes ).

There were many others : like:

SIA - Singapore International Airways / Sex in the Air!!

MAS - Malaysian Airline System /Mana Ada System (Where is the
system)

The word Hindu is said to be a Persian word. but in this thread, an earlier post said him+thu (one who denies "himsai" ) So the exponent said it was a Sanskrit formulation.

Thus it may be an ex post facto explanation, which coincides.

If it is Bha - Raa - Thaa (all elongated), does it fit in?

It is said the word Pakistan was coined in that manner using first letters of state names.

[rajraj]

No Mala! I think you should read some books on Bharatha natyam and see what they have to say.

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"kOththai" is noted as having been used in Tolkaappiyam. Means a blind person.

kOthu - defect. useless.

kOththai < kOthu + ai (suffix).

Usage in certain areas may consider this word not refined but it is not inherent in the word itself.