Is tamil derived from Sanskrit

[viggop]

is origin of "Deekshitar" Tamil\Sanskrit?
Chidambaram, a temple in TN, is famous for its 3000 Dikshitars.
Muthuswamy Dikshitar is one among the trinity in carnatic music
What does this word "dikshitar" mean?.

[mahadevan]

a preliminary try Mala/FSG can correct me

Dikshitar = thiku + sit + avar
thiku = directions, way to go
sit = conciousness
avar = the person

the one who know the way to go.

what is the etymology for the lastname of Madhuri Dixit then ?

[Idiappam]

what is the etymology for the lastname of Madhuri Dixit then ?

Probably a typographical error!

[indian224080]

is origin of "Deekshitar" Tamil\Sanskrit?
Chidambaram, a temple in TN, is famous for its 3000 Dikshitars.
Muthuswamy Dikshitar is one among the trinity in carnatic music
What does this word "dikshitar" mean?.

Dikshitar is Originated from Sanskrit word "Diksha". Dikshithar is the One who provides Diksha. "diksha" is derived from the root diksh, which means 'to dedicate oneself, and is actually derived from a combination of two roots, "diks", which means 'to consecrate' or 'dedicate', and daks, which means 'to grow', 'to become strong' or 'to expand'. It could therefore be said to mean 'to expand (one's consciousness) through a process of dedication (to discovering one's own self)'. Diksha involves both giving and receiving - giving of one's self, and receiving from the guru.

[bis_mala]

"viggop"is origin of "Deekshitar" Tamil\Sanskrit?
Chidambaram, a temple in TN, is famous for its 3000 Dikshitars.
Muthuswamy Dikshitar is one among the trinity in carnatic music
What does this word "dikshitar" mean?

Dikshitar is a South-Indian-origin word but Sanskritized. It comes from from another word "deekshai".

Deekshitar etymologically means: one who has been given deekshai or initiation to be a follower.

Deekshai is an initiation process whereby a guru initiates a shysyan or follower.

Various groups may have various means of deekshai. Usual method is by the guru touching the forehead of the intending follower with holy water or other stuff (may be kungumum ) that the guru regularly uses in prayers. The guru somewhat draws a short line with the water or other thing on the forehead with his thumb starting from where you put your pottu (dot) and going slowly upwards vertically. He may be chanting something at the same time. You then become a follower. If the guru does not accept the intending follower, he may refuse to give the deekshai.

You may not find it in your Skrt dictionary.with your spelling. This is a special word!!

Remember I told you above about the line drawn.

¾£ðξø - §¸¡Î þØò¾ø.
À𨼠¾£ðξø ±ýÛõ ÅÆ쨸 §¿¡ìÌí¸û!!

The root of this word in Tamil is probably lost in the Tamil language. It may be retrieved through comparative etymological methods.

(¾£û) > ¾£ðÎ (ÅÄ¢ò¾ø Å¢¸¡Ãõ) ¾£û + Ð
(¾£û) > ¾£ñÎ. (¦ÁÄ¢ò¾ø Å¢¸¡Ãõ). ¾£û + Ð.

¾£ñξø , ¾£ðξø still exist though the root thiiL ¾£û is lost.

¾£û + ¨º = ¾£ð¨º. This word exists in Tamil.
¾£û + ¨¸ = (¾£ð¨¸) > ¾£ì¨¸. This word exists in Tamil.

Alternatively, you can use PaNini's method as in Sanskrit.

(¾£ð) > ¾£ðÎ
(¾£ð) > ¾£ñÎ
(¾£ð) > ¾£ð¨º
(¾£ð) > ¾£ì¨¸.

Then just take the ð. ñ, ì spelling changes as natural to the words!! Thus in this method, the root need not be a word by itself. It can just be a stem.

¾£ðº¢¾÷ = ¾£ð¨º +þÐ + «÷ = ¾£ð(î+³) + (þ+ò+¯) + «÷ = ¾£ð+î+þ+ò+«÷.

This means the vowels ³ & ¯ are dropped in the formation process.

¾£ðº¢¾÷ is a title used by the priests of the Temple in Chidambaram. They were probably initiated by some guru (claimed: pathanjali or thirumuular or some other deputising or some person claiming lineage through them. No way to verify.

Dikshitar - a specially ordained priest.

The above is just to explain the meaning.

I have received an initiation from a guru. Hence I know about diitchai.

Mahatma Ghandi was given deekshai by Paramahansa Yogananda and Ramakrishna Paramahansa by his Guru Totapuri if I remember correctly. But they are not diikshitars..

[karuvaadu]

When I was a young boy, well a lot of water has gone through the Kaaveri since, my ammammaa told me something similar like sekar ithai thiitti thaadaa and gave me a knife. What is the correct word Mala?

[bis_mala]

Your ammammaa used the word "thiitti" (participle) in another meaning: "kuuraakki". (=sharpen).

thiittu has other meanings - not considered here. It can mean "an unclean state of a person when that person is not to be touched" or "a period where that person is secluded and screened from others"

Similarly the word "thodakku" may have the same meaning though it also means "begin".

Some words have been used in Tamil in positive and negative sense. These (above) words are examples.

The term "madhu" in Sanskrit can mean "sweet. pleasant" as well as "bitter, pungent". Meaning in a particular sentence will depend on context.

Mr Karuvaadu, make a collection of such words with opposite meanings for fun!!

[Nedunchezhiyan]

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[Nedunchezhiyan]

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[karuvaadu]

Mr Karuvaadu, make a collection of such words with opposite meanings for fun!!

Madhu can also mean alcohol, isn't it?

My knowledge in Tamil is extra orordinary poor and I remember of certain things from my vast memory immediately when you come up with intial words.

matham (Tamil?) has two different meanings for example!

matham is religion as well as elephant running wild!

Just a comment:
Some religious humanoids also mathaththaal matham pidiththavarkaL (Well said isn't it?)
I am once again suprised at Tamil!