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10th May 2006, 03:57 PM
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SANGAM LITERATURE & TAMIL
Friends,
India has been the Theological Source for the World and Both Vedas and Tamil Tradtion are equally Unique.
Tamil Sangam Literature which can be dated from 200BCE to 2oo CE, and TholKappiyam around 50-100CE, has extensivlely refers to Vedas.
Brothers,
During part of discussion I had quoted them and also the Opinion of Scholars such as Pavanar; but as pages go and New friends come they are not able to follow and I begin this thread.
To me both are Great and complimented each other.
Tholkappiyar after Composing sung it in Presence of "Athankottu Asan" who was a Scholar in Four Vedas. " Nan Marai Murriya "
Tholkappiyar which on marriiages refers to Vedic Tradition, and Love Marriage as equivalent to Vedic Kandarva Marriage.
I shall give releavant verses and confirm in my next posts.
DevaPriya.
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10th May 2006 03:57 PM
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10th May 2006, 04:40 PM
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when i read the word SANGAM ... i remember my first year thamizh class ... we had a hot discussion, with somebody quoting that SANGAM itself is not a Thamizh word !
The reason he gave was like in the word SANGAM -> the first letter "sa" as per thamizh dictionary does not exist ! the sa existing is actually cha -> as we are using it dually !
Is this true about SANGAM ?
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10th May 2006, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by
bingleguy
when i read the word SANGAM ... i remember my first year thamizh class ... we had a hot discussion, with somebody quoting that SANGAM itself is not a Thamizh word !
The reason he gave was like in the word SANGAM -> the first letter "sa" as per thamizh dictionary does not exist ! the sa existing is actually cha -> as we are using it dually !
Is this true about SANGAM ?
Ok BG let it be "Changam Literature" what is wrong.....
DevaPriya, I will be happy if you can quote various good stories, which can give/teach some moral ethics to the readers instead of arguing whether it is Vedic or Non-Vedic......
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10th May 2006, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by
bingleguy
when i read the word SANGAM ... i remember my first year thamizh class ... we had a hot discussion, with somebody quoting that SANGAM itself is not a Thamizh word !
The reason he gave was like in the word SANGAM -> the first letter "sa" as per thamizh dictionary does not exist ! the sa existing is actually cha -> as we are using it dually !
Is this true about SANGAM ?
yea BG is rite! the word sangam is not tamil, according to tholkappiyam atleast. Bcoz in tholkappiam it is said that "cha" or "sa" (watever u call, it doesn matter) are not supposed to be the first alphabhets of any proper tamil word. So scholars still wonder wether sangam era existed at all.
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10th May 2006, 09:07 PM
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க த ந ப ம எனும் ஆவைந்து எழுத்தும்
எல்லா உயிரொடும் செல்லுமார் முதலே.
சகரக் கிளவியும் அவற்று ஓரற்றே
அவைஒள எனும் ஒன்றலங் கடையே.
சரி சமழ்ப்புச் சட்டி சருகு சவடி
சளிசகடு சட்டை சவளி - சவிசரடு
சத்து சதங்கை சழக்காதி ஈரிடத்தும்
வந்தனவாற் சம்முதலும் வை
நன்றி: http://valavu.blogspot.com/2006/03/3.html
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10th May 2006, 11:13 PM
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I have read the first para b4, but havent seen the second one. Is that from tholkappiyam too? I will have to search for that book first .
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11th May 2006, 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by
thamizhvaanan
I have read the first para b4, but havent seen the second one. Is that from tholkappiyam too? I will have to search for that book first
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Never did I say the second one was from tholkappiam.
PS: I had given the link just to avoid questions like this.
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11th May 2006, 08:13 AM
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sorry i didn check tht link first!
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11th May 2006, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by
FloraiPuyal
க த ந ப ம எனும் ஆவைந்து எழுத்தும்
எல்லா உயிரொடும் செல்லுமார் முதலே.
சகரக் கிளவியும் அவற்று ஓரற்றே
அவைஒள எனும் ஒன்றலங் கடையே.
சரி சமழ்ப்புச் சட்டி சருகு சவடி
சளிசகடு சட்டை சவளி - சவிசரடு
சத்து சதங்கை சழக்காதி ஈரிடத்தும்
வந்தனவாற் சம்முதலும் வை
நன்றி:
http://valavu.blogspot.com/2006/03/3.html
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Hi Hi Hi...I can understand the first 2 lines of the first "cheyyulk.." Can some one plz translate the l;ast two line of first stanza and Full second stanza...?
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11th May 2006, 10:35 PM
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the other two lines means that words cant begin with sa, sai, and sou.
the second stanza illustrates instances where words start with "cha" alphabet, and thereby implies that tamil words do start with "cha" .
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