Origin of Tamil

[jackselvaraju]

In order to popularise tamil films it is necessary to have it substitled. this will allow non tamil speaking people to understand the movie/ THAT IS WHY HINDI FILMS HAVE BECOME POPULAR.

[F.S.Gandhi vandayar]

Dear Old posts,

I complement to your passage with some root words.

ayutha elutthu=ah=root is aei= means cut. = milagai aeithal= chilly cutting= head cutting instrument = Ayutham.

Akkini=akni=agni= agnidevan=indran= indu=hindu

Akkini= Akku+e- Akku means a base = ex.akkul,aakkai,akki.

Fire was the base of cooking when men left their forest live. That is why akkini for fire.= akku veru aani veru= Base separate/built separate.

Aryan=ariyavan= a rare person=an outstanding person.=Uyarntha,thanithuvamana. The root 'ari' means separate.
(arithal)
Compare aryapadai,manapadai,podupadai and pampappadai in earlier chola kingdom. Aryapadai means outstanding padai, suicidal squad, leading padai.

manapadai means the next to and adapt/follow up for aryapadai like bride goes after bridegroom in marriage(thiruMANAM).

Podupadai=a general body of padai.

Pamppappadai= Like snake attacking force till death.

Vedham=root vei=means hide. = koorai veithal= hut to hide.
equivalent word is marai which means hide. The villagetown 'maraikadu' changed into 'vedaaranyam'=vedha+aranyam(kadu)

'thirayar mozhi'=thirakadal odi thiraviam thedu=thirai-kadal(sea)

thirayarmozhi=thiramoli=thermili=themili=tamili=ta mizh=tamil

thiramili=theravili=thravidi=dravidi=dravid

The above name for tamil prevails in egyptian,mesopatomian and north indian languages.

The above is the correct interpretation of root words. When you find out root words we have to see the colloquial expression prevailing among people and then its literary version. Then only it will give correct interpretation. Because language gets shrink in dialects only. Not in literature.

[senthilkumaras]

ANSWER FOR THE PRO-SANSKRIT Post subject: kal-k (@ 82-4*) on: Tue May 4 07:56:58 EDT 2004

//yeah but why aren't you guys making any claims like SANSKRIT can?
according to the NEASDEN temple they quote that SANSKRIT has 70 words for water which then amalgamate into 280 different words when added with a pre-fix.......... SANSKRIT has 70 words for water and 65 words for Earth.
when added with a prefix these words for water then amalgamate to 280 words !!!!
no language in the world has such qualities!!!!
these 70 words have not been derived from anyother language........ //


AS YOU SAY, EVEN THE ESKIMOS HAVE 51 WORDS FOR THE WORD "WHITE ";so,as you say can it be that eskimos' language is more superior and older than other languages?
BLAH BLAH BLAHBLAH

NOW, LOGICALLY,
aryans hadso many words for" water" because they had plenty of water , perennial river-of ganga, from snow clad himalayas;

even then could you be sure they didnot include general names of water bodies/collections(eg,.river,lake,pond,pool,ice,vapour,ra in,sea,ocean,lagoon,backwater,well,waves,snowfall, etc) or special character names likeadjectives for each of these names(eg., hotwater,coldwater,muddywater,saltywater,etc.)

THE LOGICAL REASON and reality is any language will have more meanings, special words for few particular things, which they deal most, which they have in plenty around them, which they see every second of their life,
THAMIZH ALSO HAS numerous words for
"ship"-37 words(atleast),"river"-21"words,"tiger"-15,"elephant"-33 words(atleast),"sea"-27 words,"sun"-15,"EARTH"-35 and so on for many things they dealt every day every second over tens of thousand years.

//you have to remember that the BORDERS of ARYA-VARTHA reached up to SIBERIA and across most of INDO-CHINA..........//

yes, yes, I had recently heard Aryans had ruled even the NORTH POLE, INFACT "ARYANS WERE THE FIRST TO REACH NORTH POLE!!
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH"
BLAH BLAH


//the SARASWATI site shows a continous momentum of life from 5000 bc all the way back to 2 million years ago.....//

Life flourishes forever since the first aquatic animals evolved on all river banks and plains,
so it is nothing new SARASWATI river valley had life momentum all the way back to 2 million years even SAHARA OR SIBERIA will show fossils dating back to millions of years.

If you really mean SARASWATI valley was atleast 5000 B.C.E. long, I AM SORRY , all these 500 B.C.E. claims of the ASI have not yet been confirmed by any qualified International archaeologists , geologists, anthropologists, calligraphists,or any cryptologists;

FOR YOUR INFORMATION , THE LATEST INTERNATIONALLY AGREED UPON TIMELINE OF Indus valley Civilization &SARASWATHI valley is that,
(!)3100-2600 B.C.E.-earliest INDUS valley settlements known till date (There had been no certified, documented excavations that date prior to 3100 B.C.E.)
(2)1800-1700B.C.E.-disintegration and collapse of IVC, due to geological reasonshift of rivers,floods,etc
(3)1700-1500 B.C.E.-arrival of a large group of Indo-european nomadic population at the INDUS VALLEY, afterthe fag end of IVC ,

AND THAT'S IT.

//if so please enlighten the world, if not be humbled by the power of SANSKRIT and stop fighting it and go with the flow............. //

I think it is the reverse,

it is out of the fear of being humbled by the power of THAMIZH, that the North Indian Scholars, Aryan ASI and the Brahmin Aryan-oriented head of Tamil Nadu Government,anti-THAMIZH government and SINGALESE scholars of Srilanka,
does nothing useful archaeologically and linguistically in the South Indian sites.

THESE governments are so anti-THAMIZH in attitude that they had stopped interests in LITERACY AND POPULATION EDUCATION PROGRAMMES (LITERACY RATE DOWN FROM 65.4% IN 2001 TO 61.5% IN 2005- TAMIL NADU;Even before reduced from 63.5 % in 1991 to 59.5% in 1995)
Ofcourse they need tamizh nadu population to be as illiterate as ever for them to remain on power indefinitely,all their votes come usually from illiterate and backward villages and dominant castes in their respective villages(to uphold their caste and regional supremacy));

THAT IS WHY THE COMMONERS AND N.G.O. THAMIZH SCHOLARS AND EVEN THE FOREIGN RESEARCHERS AND archaeologists (EG, Robert Hancock &CO,BBC, NGC, Berkley University, and others) HAVE TAKEN UP THE GOVERNMENT'S WORK TO BRING TO LIGHT THE TRUE HISTORY AND GREATNESS OF THAMIZH;

//i am sure TaMIL is just as beautifully refined... //

atleast this you understood correctly!

[I SUSPECT THER IS NO "OM" IN EARLIEST VEDHAS,
"OM" CAME FROM THAMIZH SAMAYAM(RELIGION not time! ) ; Only when aryans came at 1500 B.C.E. to IVC (that time their Gods were Gods of fire, water,air and Indra and a 33 crore demigods) and found a supreme civilization and RELIGION than Vedhas AND TOOK LORD SIVA THE ONLY GOD OF THAMIZH CHCHAMAYAM AS their ALMIGHTY GOD, they become aware of "OM" and studied the Godly magical word .]

[F.S.Gandhi vandayar]

Thank you sethilkumaras for your lucid information.

We have to note one thing here about north indians. I am sorry to specify the truth based on caste but this is apparent truth to specify.

When Europeans said aryans thrushed out dravidians from north these north indians/elite group particularly brahmins in north india claimed they are aryans and sanskrit is their language.

Sanskritised tamil caste system adopted, most of the south indian brahmins also joined with north indian to consolidate their supremacy/to sustain their supremacy in this.

When Europeans said Aryans came from out to india it induced dravidian movements which made aryans are alienated to indian culture, suddenly they talked and claimed they are also original inhabitants of india.

When Aryans invasion theory proved wrong they strongly hold the about point and started spreading about saraswathi culture which according to their claim earlier than south indian tamil culture.

Again and again they try to form out this hypothesis making india rely on sanskrit/its culture with their supremacy laid on that.

The so called indran, the god of agni praised in vedhas was tamil god in prehistoric period.

In their thurst to make sanskrit supremacy/their supremacy also they compel everybody in india without any evidences.

We are ready to accept their theory after all tamil is the basis for this saraswathi culture provided those from non-brahmin is allowed to study vedhas and if completed the all customs laid down in that will they /hindian hindu/ allow them to do poojas in the 'karpagraga' of any temple?

Then tamils need not worry about their supremacy. We can prove that tamil version hindu is there in vedhas/saraswathi culture.

The partial thinking in finding out the truth in history must be wiped out at any cost.

There is no dravidian/aryan race in india. To specify tamil people vedhas speaks dravid. Aryans in vedhas are specified as 'Hothas'-othuvars and vedhas are belonging to everybody in hindu religion.

f.s.gandhi