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14th April 2006, 08:29 PM
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"Hindu Kush Montain" how many of us knows that the meaning of this is "Blood of Hindu". That mountain, which is today in afganisthan was washed with the bloods of Hindu that it has been names as Hindu Khush (khush mean blood in turkish and an accnet of Farsi)and this has been purposfully, delebarately shadowed in the name of secualrism
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14th April 2006 08:29 PM
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14th April 2006, 08:50 PM
#12
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Thanks to Shivaji southern india was left untouched
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14th April 2006, 09:39 PM
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Any one has any idea about present plight of the great hero "Prithivi Raj Chowhan", who gave "Uyir Pichai" to Ghazni?
He was hurted mercilessly in a war by a adharmic way and was "dragged" to afganisthan, by the horse of Ghazni and...........Today, he is burried (which is not allowed in Sanaathana Dharma) in Afganisthan. It is near his samaadhi, the Mohammad Ghazni's memorial mosque is built.
Even today, every one who goes to that mosque, will come to the samaadhi of Chowhan, kick it with hatred and then visit the mosque...this is still a tradition there....to show thir hatred....
But Indian govt has not taken any action to reclaim his corpse from Afganisthan and do the last rites that Brave man deserves......why? Muslims in Bharatham will not like it? is that so?...and again no Indian media has the b****s to mention this except "Deccan Cronicle"
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14th April 2006, 09:49 PM
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Thanks to Shivaji southern india was left untouched........
That is not true, not to denigrade The great Maratha leader, he was instrumental in preventing one form of chuvanism in what we call as Maharastra now. The imapct of islam is pretty minimal in south basically because of the very strong cultural identity in the south, be it the Tamil/telugu/kannada/malayalam land. Also thanks to many reasons like, relatively stable kingdoms in the south, the language disconnect between the north and south, vindhyas terrain, tiredness of the invaders etc.
Since we are talking of the invaders and the genocide in India, I am surprised by the non inclusion of the references about the genocide in Rig veda that were commited on the Indians by the invading vedics.
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14th April 2006, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by
mahadevan
the language disconnect between the north and south, vindhyas terrain, tiredness of the invaders etc.
Languages spoken at that time in north and south , were not are not much different from each other...only after the islamic invasion, the Urdu/Farsi or Arabic became dominant in the the language they spoke...
Originally Posted by
mahadevan
Since we are talking of the invaders and the genocide in India, I am surprised by the non inclusion of the references about the genocide in Rig veda that were commited on the Indians by the invading vedics.
what are you trying to say...still sticking to Aryan Invasion theory.........?then I have no say to people like you....
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14th April 2006, 10:34 PM
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Points all taken,Eelavar... a few observations
The word " Hindu" is derived from Sindhu - original name of Indus, and was created by Muslims, not by Europeans.
Do you think humans are at the farthest point of evolution now in the Universe ? How is a person/being considered to be "evolving" anyway? What is the scale for evolution ?
By Jiva, do you mean Jivatma? Even if not, you say Jiva is a spark of the Infinite...ie God, for namesake. God in general, is believed to be perfect. So why does the Jiva need to perfect itself from incarnation to incarnation?
And not all Hindus believe in the equality of all Gods of different religions, why even in Hinduism itself. That is why you have Shaivism, Vaishnavism, The Sakthas, Dvaita, Advaita, Visishtadvaita... so many different sects than any other named religion on this planet. But yes...these do not totally discount other means, some of them considering it equal, and some , to be lower aspects of their God and their means.
Eelavar said
" " but true compassion is always accompanied by right knowledge " "
Yes. I believe True compassion, unlimited, unlimiting, and free... Is the Knowledge.
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14th April 2006, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by
anbu_kathir
Points all taken,Eelavar... a few observations
The word " Hindu" is derived from Sindhu - original name of Indus, and was created by Muslims, not by Europeans.
No.... it is not Muslims who call it Indus...Indus is how the Greeks call the river Sindhu...For Persians and Arabs...it is Sindh....and some how they (Persians and Arabs) still mention us as Hindh.
In general....nobody calls us by our original name...... "Bharatham", sometimes even ourselves...
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14th April 2006, 11:22 PM
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I said the same thing buddy, I said the word "Sindhu" and not " Indus", was what lead to the word, "Hindu". "Hindu" was coined first by the Muslims. I never meant Muslims called the river, as " Indus ". I know it is Sind.
Originally Posted by
srivatsan
No.... it is not Muslims who call it Indus...Indus is how the Greeks call the river Sindhu...For Persians and Arabs...it is Sindh....and some how they (Persians and Arabs) still mention us as Hindh.
In general....nobody calls us by our original name...... "Bharatham", sometimes even ourselves...
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14th April 2006, 11:22 PM
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I said the same thing buddy, I said the word "Sindhu" and not " Indus", was what lead to the word, "Hindu". "Hindu" was coined first by the Muslims. I never meant Muslims called the river, as " Indus ". I know it is Sind.
Originally Posted by
srivatsan
No.... it is not Muslims who call it Indus...Indus is how the Greeks call the river Sindhu...For Persians and Arabs...it is Sindh....and some how they (Persians and Arabs) still mention us as Hindh.
In general....nobody calls us by our original name...... "Bharatham", sometimes even ourselves...
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15th April 2006, 01:21 AM
#20
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In general....nobody calls us by our original name...... "Bharatham", sometimes even ourselves...
Who called the land mass as Bharatham, some piece of litreature thats it. I do not think that term Bharatham was ever used in that sense by the kings or the common man. Tamil litreature does not include that term and neither the rock edicts of ashoka or other kings uses that term. Just because some author proposed that term in his story does not mean it was really used in that sense.
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