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    Look at this Sundaram!!!

    How beautifully MANIPULATES his ideas as the ignorant dalit kid's.

    This is ALSO a FACT!

    OR Is Sundaram a DALIT too?????

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    Here are a few pearls from 'Periyarana' cited by Venkatesan in his book:

    'For more than 40 years...
    Guys, I think the above was overlooked!! :P
    An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it.

    ~Gandhi~

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    Srivatsan, It seems you are dealing with the PERSON EVR rather than his policies.
    Ponnu Vellai tholah? illai Karuppu tholah?
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    Giving the usual warning before things become ugly:

    Restrict yourself to discussing the topic. This means

    No name calling - either other hubbers or other personalities.
    This means no "filthy person" type comments, Srivatsan
    This means no personal attacks on anyone, stranger

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbadri99
    Giving the usual warning before things become ugly:

    Restrict yourself to discussing the topic. This means

    No name calling - either other hubbers or other personalities.
    This means no "filthy person" type comments, Srivatsan
    This means no personal attacks on anyone, stranger
    yes sir...as moderator's note...sorry for what has happened!
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    Quote Originally Posted by a.ratchasi
    Guys, I think the above was overlooked!! :P
    I think you are right. I could not understand his writing as he says he interviewed this kid, then he talks about that kid's book. I dont know what he means by "book"

    Pray tell me,

    * where can I get the book written by the Dalit kid (is that a hand-written copy?) As he very much wanted these facts to be made known to the public he has written a book in Tamil entitled 'E V Ramasamy Naickarin Marupakkam' (The other side of E V Ramasamy Naickar).
    which comments on "periyarana"-written by EVR, which Sundaram is quoting here???

    * Has this book written by this kid, been published???

    * Is there any page #s from which he quotes???

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    I did do a google search on this book (written by this kid), Sundaram quotes, but not much luck so far!

    Please help me, AR if you can!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbadri99

    No name calling - either other hubbers or other personalities.
    This means no "filthy person" type comments, Srivatsan
    This means no personal attacks on anyone, stranger
    badri!

    Instead of attempting to raise the status of Scheduled Castes (Parayans), an attempt should not be made to reduce the status of backward Class (Sudrans) by relegating them to the levels of Scheduled Castes. On no account should the existing status of Sudrans be reduced to the level of Parayans'. Venkatesan says in his book that Periyar's contempt if not hatred for the dalits was shown in another context by his flash observation: 'One of the main reasons why there is an upward trend in the prices of clothes and textiles is that women belonging to the Scheduled Castes (Parachies) have started wearing blouses these days.
    I understand name-calling is not right and I apologize for my misinterpretations.

    However, quoting the terms like "parayan and parachies" is HIGHLY inappropriate and it should be regarded as "against hub-policy".

    Even if it had been said in the EVR's dirty book (it must have been published 4 decades ago), I consider that "re-quoting" or "citing" such terms (he could have avoided that) by Sundaram (in the 21st century) in his article is BRUTAL and RUDE.

    Gandhi used the term scheduled caste for politely addressing these people becuase they are afraid of telling their own caste names in the public.

    And I know they get wounded and hurt when they read such terms.!

    This is just like calling someone as a "n e g r o" in the 21st century. Sundaram should have known better than this!

    Even Sundaram and EVR would have realised how it be like only if they were born as a scheduled caste! But they were not born such

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    Quote Originally Posted by stranger
    Gandhi used the term scheduled caste for politely addressing these people becuase they are afraid of telling their own caste names in the public.
    I thot he coined the name 'Harijan' to address them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambretta
    Quote Originally Posted by stranger
    Gandhi used the term scheduled caste for politely addressing these people becuase they are afraid of telling their own caste names in the public.
    I thot he coined the name 'Harijan' to address them?

    Stranger does these kind of things quite often while proving his point.

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