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    Boy Who gives a True Picture of "Periyar"

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    Irecently interviewed M Venkatesan, a 'Dalit', whose family has been living in a slum area called Hanumanthapuram in Triplicane during the last 25 years. I am specifically mentioning the fact that he belongs to the Dalit community only to take the wind from the sails of self-styled, castiest and communalist Dravidian leaders who often pride themselves as saviours, champions, protectors and upholders of the backward and suppressed communities in Tamilnadu under the political umbrella of 'self-respect' and 'social justice'. Venkatesan is a bright, hardworking and precocious young man who has taken his MA in Philosophy from Vivekananda College, Chennai. He told me that when he joined the Vivekananda College, he had to face a barrage of difficult and unanswerable questions from his fellow students on the so-called 'revolutionary and unprecedented' contribution of 'Periyar E V Ramasamy Naicker' to the emancipation and liberation of the oppressed and suppressed communities in Tamilnadu. Finding himself in a state of siege, Venkatesan, being a Dalit himself, took the initiative of researching into almost all the publications brought out by 'Periyar Suyamariyadai Prachara Nilayam' and also into the writings of Periyar's contemporaries like Annadurai, M P Sivagnanam, comrade Jeevanandam, KAP Viswanathan, etc. Not being totally satisfied he went through all the magazines and journals like 'Viduthalai', 'Kudiyarasu', 'Dravida Naadu', 'Dravidan' etc, relating to the period during which Periyar lived in order to ascertain the truth and also to get hold of solid and irrefutable facts.

    As a great believer in Hinduism and Hindu philosophy, his sensitive soul was tortured by the baseless attacks of Periyar on Hindu Gods and Goddesses. I would like to quote his own words in this context: 'I could not help viewing Periyar's uncivilised and barbarous attacks upon my chosen Gods and Goddesses and my own Hindu faith as wanton attacks on my dear and sacred mother who begot me. My search into the works of Periyar and my extensive reading of all his articles gave a rude cultural shock to me. I was greatly dismayed by the hellish hatred of Periyar towards my faith and towards my chosen Gods and Goddesses'.

    Hatred of Brahmins and hatred of Hindu Gods, these according to Venkatesan were the only pith and pin of Periyar's public life. According to Venkatesan, Periyar was a man of virulent contradictions, inexplicable incongruities and inchoate insensitivities. As he very much wanted these facts to be made known to the public he has written a book in Tamil entitled 'E V Ramasamy Naickarin Marupakkam' (The other side of E V Ramasamy Naickar).

    During the course of my interview, he told me with an anguished feeling that if only people cared to read my book on 'E V Ramasamy Naickar', then they will clearly understand how some sections of people in Tamilnadu, behaving like heads of cattle, were brainwashed into the hero-worship of E V Ramasamy Naickar, completely ignoring the inherent and fundamental contradictions in his self-proclaimed ideologies founded only on communal hatred of Brahmins and atheistic hatred of Hindu Gods. Venkatesan's view is that Periyar wrongly thought that when he attacked Brahmins, he was attacking Hinduism and when he attacked Hinduism, he was attacking Brahmins. At the same time, the comedy is that Periyar had very warm feelings towards the Gods of Islam and Christianity. 'I am really ashamed of those people who have veneration for E V Ramasamy Naickar and his perverse philosophy of selective hatred of men and things. I am no less rational or serious than him when I say this', observed Venkatesan.

    Venkatesan emphatically declared that Periyar did nothing for the emancipation of the oppressed and suppressed dalits. On the contrary he was inimical towards all the dalits whom he treated with utmost contempt. His contempt for the dalits (90 per cent) was only exceeded by his hatred for the Brahmins (100 per cent). To quote from Venkatesan's book: Periyar said: 'The attempt to promote 'temple entry' and 'abolition of untouchability' by the Congress leaders should not result in the tragedy of people belonging to the backward classes getting reduced to the level of scheduled castes. Instead of attempting to raise the status of Scheduled Castes (Parayans), an attempt should not be made to reduce the status of backward Class (Sudrans) by relegating them to the levels of Scheduled Castes. On no account should the existing status of Sudrans be reduced to the level of Parayans'. Venkatesan says in his book that Periyar's contempt if not hatred for the dalits was shown in another context by his flash observation: 'One of the main reasons why there is an upward trend in the prices of clothes and textiles is that women belonging to the Scheduled Castes (Parachies) have started wearing blouses these days. The reason for growing unemployment in society is on account of increasing number of people belonging to Scheduled Castes (Parayans) taking to school education and higher education'. Venkatesan concludes that Periyar was a sworn enemy of dalits, their education, emancipation, growth and development. 'As a dalit I have come to this definite conclusion based upon Periyar's golden thoughts, observations and averments on my dalit community', says Venkatesan.

    Even a cursory reading of Venkatesan's book will show how Periyar, who was always concerned with the self-respect of the Dravidian race, and more particularly the Tamil race, upheld the glory, the greatness and the grandeur of the Tamil language for over 70 years through his historic and time-defying observations and writings which will ring across centuries. Here are a few pearls from 'Periyarana' cited by Venkatesan in his book:

    'For more than 40 years, I have been describing Tamil as a barbarous language (Kattumirandi Mozhi) used only by barbarians. When Brahmins and the Brahmin-dominated government wanted to make Hindi a State language, I started, to a very limited extent, advocating the promotion of Tamil language only to oppose the imposition of Hindi language. The only language that ought to replace Tamil is English. What is not there in English which can be found in Tamil Language?'

    Periyar's patriotism and love for our nation are brought out in his own statement: 'Though I might have blocked the exit of the Englishmen from India, though I might have betrayed in a treasonable manner the cause of India's freedom, I have not been a party to the installation of sinners from the Brahmin community with its fall out effects of domination of people from Northern India backed by the lust for money power, paraphernalia of public offices and self-interest'.

    I have quoted only very very sparingly from the book authoured by Venkatesan. In order to fully understand the truth-defying greatness of 'Periyar' and Periyarism in proper perspective, one has to read this book from end to end with great care and caution, inspired by the shadow ideals of 'self-respect' and 'rationalism'.

    I view Venkatesan as a symbol of a new awakening among the youth in Tamilnadu. I am quite impressed by his zest for learning, thoroughness in his approach to academic research and above all his fearless gentlemanliness deriving its unassailable strength from his passion for truth and justice. Venkatesan lamented: 'The trouble with Tamilnadu is that prejudice often scores a victory over principle. Prejudice, which sees what it pleases, cannot see what is plain. I only wanted to pursue plain truth and nothing else'.

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    Good to hear this boy's story, Indian.......
    The price tat ppl. of TN r paying for having chosen a wrong leader/role model....!
    Unftly it may take much too long b4 ther r more youth like him w/ this awakening!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambretta
    Good to hear this boy's story, Indian.......
    The price tat ppl. of TN r paying for having chosen a wrong leader/role model....!
    Unftly it may take much too long b4 ther r more youth like him w/ this awakening!
    Nope Lambretta machan! Seems you are coming to the conclusion very fast.

    EVR is always remembered for his brave fights in Vaikkam (Kerala) for the abolition of Untouchability.

    He has a statue there. I am not able to agree with 99% of the material posted here.

    EVR is a man (from a rich family) who worked in congress for a brief period. But Later left the congress and enrolled himself as a full time social reformer in the abolition of Untouchability.
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    Selva macha, y is it then, tat Periyar left creating a huge rift between one particular 'forward' caste (Brahmins) & the 'lower' castes??
    Ther hav been instances wher other 'forward' castes had been oppressive towards Brahmins as well as 'lower' castes, yet his revolution was directed singularly at Bs.
    If he'd wanted to abolish casteism or bring abt equality, this was certianly no way to do it.....ther were evn others like Gandhi who were against casteism/untouchability etc. but didnt resort to such extreme methods such as targeting one particular caste....wat hap'd in case of Periyar's revolution turned out to be a counter-aggression/domination based on caste.....
    Also y was Periyar against Hinduism w/ reg. to chastity of women if he had genuine intentions? Where was the need to go against this as well if abolishing untouchability was his primary aim?
    He'd openly made instigations against Hindu norms/ethics governing the role of women in the course of his revolution!

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    Quote Originally Posted by selvakumar
    Quote Originally Posted by Lambretta
    Good to hear this boy's story, Indian.......
    The price tat ppl. of TN r paying for having chosen a wrong leader/role model....!
    Unftly it may take much too long b4 ther r more youth like him w/ this awakening!
    Nope Lambretta machan! Seems you are coming to the conclusion very fast.

    EVR is always remembered for his brave fights in Vaikkam (Kerala) for the abolition of Untouchability.

    He has a statue there. I am not able to agree with 99% of the material posted here.

    EVR is a man (from a rich family) who worked in congress for a brief period. But Later left the congress and enrolled himself as a full time social reformer in the abolition of Untouchability.
    EVR was just a rich person, who had nothing but hatred in his heart. His hatred for Brahmanas made him to fight for the oppressed and not his social awareness.......EVR's probable contribution to the society is his March against "Kallu" or country liqour in Vaikkam....rest of the comments will follow
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    Quote Originally Posted by srivatsan
    EVR was just a rich person, who had nothing but hatred in his heart. His hatred for Brahmanas made him to fight for the oppressed and not his social awareness.......EVR's probable contribution to the society is his March against "Kallu" or country liqour in Vaikkam....rest of the comments will follow
    Good to know that, srivatsan!

    This post speaks more about you rather than EVR!

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    'For more than 40 years, I have been describing Tamil as a barbarous language (Kattumirandi Mozhi) used only by barbarians.
    Who is describing that thamizh is a kaattumirandi language???

    I thought Venkatesan is only 25-years old???

    Must be the retired IAS offficer!

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    I have quoted only very very sparingly from the book authoured by Venkatesan.
    I dont think so!

    You manipulated EVERYTHING according to your wish!

    You said Venkatesan is only 25-yr old but you say,

    'For more than 40 years, I have been describing Tamil as a barbarous language (Kattumirandi Mozhi) used only by barbarians.

    Did Venkatesan say that????

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    The boy who gives a truer picture of 'Periyar'
    V SUNDARAM
    Cunning Sundaram has used an IGNORANT Dalit Kid to sell his ideas about EVR and THAMIZH!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stranger

    Good to know that, srivatsan!

    This post speaks more about you rather than EVR!
    yeah you are correct but what i mentioned is also a FACT....
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