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    Conflicting Theories on Sannyasa

    Some sages understand Saanyasa as the giving up of all actions motivated by desire and other thinkers declare that it consists in relinguishing the fruit of all actions.

    The first theory is based on actions containing a measure of evil and is therefore worth giving up. The second is based on acts of sacrifice, charity and penance which are viewed as being worthy of giving up.

    Published by Gita Press, Gorakhpur 2003


    So what really are we supposed to be giving up, all or part?

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    Somehow i think both are related as expecting the fruits of some action is nothing but Desire.
    So getting rid of Desire is Sanyasa.

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    Sanyasi, is a person who gives up material life (Maya) and indulge him self in Gnana(wisdom) and Isa Bhakthi(Devotion to Ishwar)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raghu
    Sanyasi, is a person who gives up material life (Maya) and indulge him self in Gnana(wisdom) and Isa Bhakthi(Devotion to Ishwar)
    Exactly Raghu!
    I had a talk w/ a friend at the RK mission here recently & he discussed how many of teh commonfolk misunderstand the meaning of Vairagya, thot of as becoming a full-fledged sanyasi & living in solitude etc...but its not nec. true- Vairagya is becoming detached towards materialistic goals/pleasures & developing a more spiritual attitude based on values. Its flexible enuff to the extent tat its possible even for married ppl. to practice this.

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    lambretta,

    It is IMPOSSIBLE for a person to be a Sanyasi, if he/she is attached to this world, such family, money , material, etc etc This is the Maya Cloud that is covering our Gnana(wisdom), we become so Ignorant of Paramatma, and we indulge in Material Pleasues triggered by Maya, so no ONE can be Sanyasi, if he is attached to this world, take Lord Budha, he is an EXCELLENT example of how a Sanyasi should be!!

    There are two ways to understand the Paramatma (Isa alias Ishwar), one is by Gnana(wisdom) but this method has LIMITATIONS as our MIND / BRAIN has LIMITATIONS, or the other way is BHAKTHI(Devotion), this is the BEST way, as gnana is very limited

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    Raghu,
    yes of course its impossible for a householder to take up sannyasa......& tat wasn't my point- as I said, many mistake vairagya for conventional sannyasa.......but its a more flexible option than sannyasa......therefore can be taken up by ne-one, even those 'attached' to family etc...

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    Lambretta,

    How can some one confuse 'Vairagya(Determination)' from Sanyasi, sorry I am a bit confused

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raghu
    Lambretta,

    How can some one confuse 'Vairagya(Determination)' from Sanyasi, sorry I am a bit confused
    Raghu,
    I was told tat vairagya means power of dettachment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambretta
    Quote Originally Posted by Raghu
    Lambretta,

    How can some one confuse 'Vairagya(Determination)' from Sanyasi, sorry I am a bit confused
    Raghu,
    I was told tat vairagya means power of dettachment?
    Illapa, I am not sure, ut Vairagya (sanskrit) known as Vairagyam (tamil) means determination/Will power to do some thing, in a way,if u think logicaly, Vairagya is needed for dettachment right?

    what do u say Lambretta?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raghu
    Illapa, I am not sure, ut Vairagya (sanskrit) known as Vairagyam (tamil) means determination/Will power to do some thing, in a way,if u think logicaly, Vairagya is needed for dettachment right?

    what do u say Lambretta?
    If u mean Vairagya as in determination, I agree w/ u!

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