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    kaif will be dropped from the indian team..........he slows the runratThis is the time when Mohammad Kaif does not do much wrong, especially when he holds the bat and wears the Indian cap.

    Talking to the media though is something he is reluctant about. Ever since Kaif, a vital member of the young new India club, scampered through for the winning runs with only three balls and two wickets to spare in the NatWest final at Lord's and completed one of the most astonishing run chases in the abridged version of the game, he has been holding the flag of hope for Indian supporters.

    In their opening game of the ICC Champions Trophy, India were down on the mat having lost their top five wickets inside the first 15 overs to the rusty Zimbabweans.

    Out walked Kaif, and with a calculated calm beyond his 21 years scored the highest individual score made by a number seven batsman to win the game for India.

    His astute innings of 111 had 55 singles in Colombo's hot humid conditions.

    "The coach (John Wright) taught me the importance of the single," he says.

    "I come into bat at number seven when the field is spread out. There aren't many chances of hitting boundaries with only four men inside the circle. But there are a lot of gaps in the outfield that can be picked for singles. Boundaries and sixes come now and then but you have to keep taking the singles and rotating the strike," he explains.

    "To bat at number seven is a different ball game. You have to keep getting the singles and finding the boundary from time to time as well. But I have things clear in my mind when I walk out to bat now."

    Coach Wright believes there is no one to replace him at number seven even though he reckons that Kaif will be promoted up the order soon.

    "My job is really to win games for India. Number seven is the position from where I have won games for India and if that is how my captain wants it that's the way it will be. As long as we win I don't care where I bat."

    More than two years ago, Kaif lifted the Under-19 World Cup Trophy in Colombo at the Sinhalese Sports Center. Last year he was included in the Test squad against the Lankans but failed to grab the opportunity.

    "After the tour of Sri Lanka last year when I was dropped from the team I was disappointed. But it was probably the best thing that could have happened to me. I realised my mistakes and understood what I needed to improve on. I returned home and worked a lot in the nets on my shots. I learnt to cope with the short balls and worked hard at my cut shots and pull shots. But most importantly, I learnt to play the short-pitched stuff."

    Today, Wright reckons Kaif scores off good deliveries all the time. Soon after the win at Lord's, Wright said the spirit of youth knows no fear -- a reason why the youngsters chased the huge English total.

    Ask Kaif, who lived in a hostel in Kanpur since he was 12, about fear and he smiles.

    "Fear? I don't know what it is. Fear can take you away from what you set out to do. It prevents you from taking risks. When I walked out to bat at Lord's the asking rate was seven runs an over. If there was fear I would have never played all the way through. I am mentally tough to deal with any situation. I walk out to bat in any situation with the same frame of mind -- to come back victorious.

    "Fear is a bad thing. You should never have it in you."

    There is no sting of arrogance in those words -- just the punch of self-belief, and shoulders that do not carry the previous baggage of failures.

    "I think it is too early to compare me to Michael Bevan," he says when you draw a comparison.

    "I have played just 20 one-day games and have got a chance to bat on just two, three occasions to fifties."

    The pressure of expectation seems to be setting in when he warns, "I think it will be very difficult now to win every match off my own bat. I get lesser number of overs to bat. Sometimes when I have just five overs to bat I will have to play the big strokes without building my innings."

    Ask him about time spent at the National Cricket Academy in Bangalore and he quickly says the stint in Adelaide was more productive.

    "I only spent two, three months in Bangalore at the cricket academy and then went to Adelaide to the Australian Cricket Academy. I learnt a lot in the 40 days I spent there. The coaches there taught me about pushing myself in pressure situations, disciplining daily training drills and playing the basic shots correctly. I think I came back a different player with a new approach and attitude."

    Unlike many newcomers who celebrate their rise without giving due credit to the back-stage crew Kaif makes it a point to acknowledge Wright's contribution.

    "Speaking to John is like gaining a year's experience in the game. He frees my batting up and that makes me very easy and confident when I walk out to bat. He only tells me one thing -- that I have to bat right till the end. He keeps putting that thought into my mind to stay right till the end."

    "The senior guys help me out a lot too in the nets. If I play a shot they think is incorrect they will walk up to me in the nets and point it out. It makes learning a very enjoyable experience. To get tips from batsmen like Sachin (Tendulkar) and (Rahul) Dravid is an honour."

    "I don't want to say anything before the game against England yet. But yes, I enjoy batting against them."

    Kaif will have one last chance this year -- on Sunday, September 22 -- to hassle the Englishmen before the World Cup where the two teams square up again on February 26
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajithfederer
    kaif will be dropped from the indian team..........he slows the runrate......
    English skipper Nasser Hussain told a press conference after defeating Zimbabwe that the Indian batting keeps coming at you. If the genius of Tendulkar and the cool head of Dravid fail, India always has Mohammad Kaif at number seven to stay there -- right till the end.
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    Kaif got out for a duck again... This is his 5th consecutive single figure score in ODIs and 3rd duck in those 5 matches.. If this continues and with youngsters like Raina knocking on the door, I doubt if kaif can retain his place in the team...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thiru
    Kaif got out for a duck again... This is his 5th consecutive single figure score in ODIs and 3rd duck in those 5 matches.. If this continues and with youngsters like Raina knocking on the door, I doubt if kaif can retain his place in the team...
    it was the same kaif who was the key booster in india winning the natwest series it was the same kaif who took 119 last week against england team when he played for RCA 12.ups and downs may come.but nothing is permanent in this world.but thiru did you notice one thing in dd channel srikanth discussed of kaif's dismissal.he said it's an unclear decission.the ball hitted little lower to his hip and was out of the stumps when they showed a 2D view
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    Natwest happend years ago.. In cricket, the theme is 'what have you done to us recently'... Remember Sachin getting boo-ed last week in mumbai?? Scoring a century on a tour match is not at all important because that doesnt go against your stat s and it doesnt win you any series or trophies.. It gets you prepared for the Test matches and ODIs as well make the visiting players get used to conditions.. I didnt watch the match to say if it was a good decision or not, but the reports I read on diff websites didnt seem to mention anything about it being a close call..

    There are lots of players waiting to prove and if sachin is healthy, chances of Raina being favoured ahead of Kaif is more...

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    Kaif should not be dropped from the one day side for sure.He is one of the most active fielder, eventhough he is not good in his current form now in batting.Every batsman has their own time period of raise and fall.If people talk about Kaif why not Sehwag? Sehwag surprises once a while so is it fair to keep him in the side for his rare surprises(In the current series against England all of his dismissals because of the bouncers,not sure of the second one day! If a batsman couldn correct the mistake which he did it in past then why the hell he has to be in team?) or for his past histories.Now i prefer Kaif just because he is good in Fielding.. A great catch,run-outs of a good batsman,Saving good amount of runs are equal to a Half-Century, I am not very sure about sehwag in fielding though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thiru
    Natwest happend years ago.. In cricket, the theme is 'what have you done to us recently'... Remember Sachin getting boo-ed last week in mumbai?? Scoring a century on a tour match is not at all important because that doesnt go against your stat s and it doesnt win you any series or trophies.. It gets you prepared for the Test matches and ODIs as well make the visiting players get used to conditions.. I didnt watch the match to say if it was a good decision or not, but the reports I read on diff websites didnt seem to mention anything about it being a close call..

    There are lots of players waiting to prove and if sachin is healthy, chances of Raina being favoured ahead of Kaif is more...
    ok i accaept but what about kaif's119 against england last week when he played for rca 12 team with ajay jadeja as captain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
    Kaif should not be dropped from the one day side for sure.He is one of the most active fielder, eventhough he is not good in his current form now in batting.Every batsman has their own time period of raise and fall.If people talk about Kaif why not Sehwag? Sehwag surprises once a while so is it fair to keep him in the side for his rare surprises(In the current series against England all of his dismissals because of the bouncers,not sure of the second one day! If a batsman couldn correct the mistake which he did it in past then why the hell he has to be in team?) or for his past histories.Now i prefer Kaif just because he is good in Fielding.. A great catch,run-outs of a good batsman,Saving good amount of runs are equal to a Half-Century, I am not very sure about sehwag in fielding though!
    you are apt to that point.what srikanth told about kaif was even if he scores a little bit lower than for the expectations he saves more than 30 runs which isa big contribution.dravid said the presence of kaif makes a big difference to the bowlers in the off side.again see in the third and second test of india vs england yuvaraj replaced kaif but he scored only a few and he dropped 5 catches.but talking about kaif he scored 91 runs
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    Another duck to Kaif... Time and time again, kaif has failed to deliver when it is required the most.. 130/3 with 25 overs to go and a middle order batsman cannot contribute?? Hitting 119 for RCA team doesnt count on his statistics or record.. Hitting 30 against for India against England is what counts... and Kaif is not jonty rhodes to save 30 runs in a match.. He's a good fielder agreed but his fielding alone is not enough to earn him a place in the team.. He shuffles across a lot and has limited shots which makes him vulnerable against good bowling attacks... If his current form continues, he could be restricted to playing for RCA and president XI teams..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thiru
    Another duck to Kaif... Time and time again, kaif has failed to deliver when it is required the most.. 130/3 with 25 overs to go and a middle order batsman cannot contribute?? Hitting 119 for RCA team doesnt count on his statistics or record.. Hitting 30 against for India against England is what counts... and Kaif is not jonty rhodes to save 30 runs in a match.. He's a good fielder agreed but his fielding alone is not enough to earn him a place in the team.. He shuffles across a lot and has limited shots which makes him vulnerable against good bowling attacks... If his current form continues, he could be restricted to playing for RCA and president XI teams..
    ok i accept let us see in the oncoming matches
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