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  • He's a great actor ....

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  • He's my role model or inspiration ....

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  • He's a do-gooder of poor people and masses ....

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    Srinivas,
    Nice posts. I too agree MGR could have thought about coming to power before starting ADMK itself. As you mentioned, he was
    definetly a clever strategist and master of Marketing.

    Howeever i dont think he would have thought abt coming to power in earlier stage itself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Murali Srinivas
    Take for example Nadodi Mannan,that was released in 1958. In that MGR had talked about governance and the priorities of a government, MGR himself while replying to the Budget Discussions in 1978 (his first Budget) said that NM itself was my answer to all opposition charges,as it covered everything. In that movie, his minister would be talking about socialism when the villain group Thalapathis will ask "appothu ungal aatchiyil panakkararkalae irrukkamaataarkala?" to which MGR will reply "Thavaru, Ezhaikalae irrukkamaataarkal". Then he will go on to say"Neengal Maaligaiyil nindrukondu Makkalai parkeereerkal. Naan Makkalodu Makkalaga nindru parkiren."
    This just fitted the scenario in 1978. We can see the dialogue aptly suited for the story of Nadodi Mannan Too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Murali Srinivas
    Whenever he had a chance he used it,like in Paasam,in the song "Ulagam Piranththu Enakkaga" there will be a saranam like
    Thavazhum Inamam Thanga Ratham
    Tharakai Patitha Mani Makudam
    Uyirgal Vaazhum Kaalaikoodam
    Kodathu Enathu Arasangam
    Once again just a coincident. It can be taken as a normal man's dream which MGR was in that movie.

    Quote Originally Posted by Murali Srinivas
    In the same movie,in the song 'Kaan Pona Pokkile" Vaali in just 2 lines would encapsulate the entire phenomenon called MGR
    Irunthalum Marainthalum Per Solla Vendum
    Ivar Pole Yaar Endru Oor Solla Vendum.
    Not necessarily that one can be remembered only if he comes to power. It may talk abt his achivement in Movies or his generosity
    or something else too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Murali Srinivas
    In Panakkara Kudumbam (1964) in the song "Ondru Engal Jaathiye",he will sing "Engal Aatchi Endrum Naalai Intha Mannile" which again was a clever insertion.
    Engal aatchi that time points to DMK, then in later suited for ADMK too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Murali Srinivas

    Nambiar " Madham Konda Yaanai enna seiyum theriyuma?''
    MGR " Sinam Konda Singathidam Thotru Odum"
    Nambiar " Tholviye ariyathavan Naan"
    MGR " THOLVIYAI ETHIRIKKU PARISALITHE PAZHAKIYAVAN NAAN "
    you can imagine the situation in the theatre during this scene.
    Yes. We can imagine what could have been the situation in theatre. Once again it suited that, after coming to power he was never defeated. However i dont think that dialogue was an extra fit for that movie. It suits for the situation and the movie too.

    I would say he would have thought of becoming CM when he was shot in his throat and the kind of popularity he could have realised
    during that time.
    And Once DMK came to power in 1967 he could have probably started waiting for his time.
    Till before that his movies and songs have a pinch of DMK support.
    There are several things(songs and scenes) in his movies somehow suited him in the later days.

    For example..

    the lines

    Kooda iruntahe Kuzhi parithaalum,
    Koduthathu kaathu nirkum..

    I can fit these lines with the incident of MR Radha with MGR(Shot in throat).
    In tamil we say a word Theerkatharisi. Probably MGR may come under that category.

    However it was very clear that after he came out of DMK, every movie he took had political dialogues againk DMK or used as political propaganda for ADMK.


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    Murali Srinivas

    yet another outstanding post ...... this time about Makkal thilagam !

    WHICH PROMPTS ME TO CALL YOU AS ENCYLOPAEDIA ON TAMIL FILMS ( NOT ONLY NT )

    Amazing is your memory power and while going through, I could get a live flash back of what actually happened those years !

    As a hardcore Nadigar thilagam fan, I was also stunned by MG's electoral achievements ( without any bias or prejudice ) and his systematic approach and strategies made to reach the throne !

    True, he was a master strategist , excellent in presenting himself, positioned himself well as the champion of poor and successfully dethrowned a VETERAN AND SEASONED POLITICIAN LIKE MUKAA....

    its not so easy to tackle Mukaa as by the time MG moved out, the DMK was very well established with all the mandrams, kilaigal....deep into every village...nook and corner of TN

    gathering mass support is not easy as we think........

    I think the by election in Dhindugal brought MG to the focus in politics and people started taking him with all seriousness

    Hats off to your posts

    keep up the good work in both the threads

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    Murali,
    Outstanding posts!

    I heard many people used to say ,MGR fullfiled and justified as his songs ,except one " enakkoru magan pirappan..avan ennai polave iruppan..."
    பாசமலருக்கு அழாதவன் மனுஷனாடே ! - சுயம்புலிங்கம்

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    Thanks Thiru, Balaji & Joe.

    Thiru,

    It was not my intention to question the veracity of your statement regarding MMSP. As for as I knew, this movie did not have a 100 day run in any of the centres. It was released on Pongal Day of 1978 and in Chennai, it was the first Tamil movie to be released in both Devi & Devi Paradise (probably the last movie too) and two other theatres, which I don't remember. If my memory serves me right it was removed after 50 days run in Devi complex and other theatres.In fact it ran for 50 days in Devi and regarding D.Paradise, I am 200% sure that it did not run beyond Mar 17th,1978, for the simple reason NT's " Ennai Pol Oruvan" was released in D.Paradise on 18th March, which means MMSP must have had a max run of 63 days.Like you, I too don't have a proof but this was the real situation. Regarding Madurai, I didn't mean it should run max in Madurai. What I meant was in spite of Madurai being his citadel and inspite of people knowing that this was going to be his last movie, still it could not strech beyond 70 -75 day run. Again if my memory serves me right,Andhaman Kadhali released on 26th Jan,1978 was the first 100 Day movie if that calender year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe
    Murali,
    Outstanding posts!

    I heard many people used to say ,MGR fullfiled and justified as his songs ,except one " enakkoru magan pirappan..avan ennai polave iruppan..."

    Joe dear ........MGR adopted one son .......infact those days family planning was vigorously pushed by the Government and I remember in one programme MG started by saying :

    KUDUMBA KATTUPAATIRKU ENNAI VIDA ORU UDHAARANAM IRUKKA MUDIYAADHU

    and then he went on with the topic ......

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    Srinivas,
    Thanks for that clarification. Probably You could be right. At that time when the MMSP movie released i was just few months old. :P
    I kept the info i heard. I could be wrong.
    Anyhow you have a great memory

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    AIADMK leader M.G. Ramachandran and Kannada actor Rajkumar shared a great admiration for each other

    Two towering film personalities, who held sway over their fans in two States of the South, are no more today. But, more than 35 years after both were framed in a photograph, the memories of their contribution to the development of the film industry in the South remain etched in people's minds.

    For, the two legendary actors M.G. Ramachandran, former Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu, and Rajkumar, who passed away on Wednesday in Bangalore, were symbols of amity and friendship between the two States, which are at loggerheads over the issue of sharing the Cauvery waters.

    A rare photograph that forms part of the collection with Padmanabha, a goldsmith from Mysore, shows the affection and mutual admiration the two legendary actors had for each other. A great fan and admirer of MGR, the photograph in the possession of Mr. Padmanabha shows MGR planting a kiss on Mr. Rajkumar's cheeks, a gesture that spoke about the unity among artistes irrespective of their linguistic background.

    See the photo in the link..
    http://www.thehindu.com/2006/04/13/s...1315100400.htm


    A very rare one.

    Kannada film industry veterans recall the visits of MGR as an actor to Mysore, especially to the famous Premier Studio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thirumaran
    See the photo in the link..
    http://www.thehindu.com/2006/04/13/s...1315100400.htm


    A very rare one.
    Very nice one ... I have seen a similar kissing pic where Sivaji kisses MGR !!!

    It used to be in Sivaji-prabhu.com or something like that ... Their homepage ... Doesnt exist anymore I think ...

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    The height of emotional response that 'MGR' could evoke was evident when in 1987 during a critical illness, 22 people committed suicide in the hope their deaths would save him! Stories of poor people selling their blood in order to get money to see his films on first release are legendary!

    Born Marudur Gopalamenon Ramachandran in Kandy, Sri Lanka, his family moved to Tamil Nadu where they lived in poverty. When he was 6, he joined a theatre group - the Madurai Original Boys. Here he picked up acting, dancing and swordplay.

    MGR made his screen debut in Ellis R. Duncan's Sati Leelavathi (1936) but his first major breakthrough came much, much later with Rajakumari (1947).



    Memorable Films

    Rajakumari
    (1947)

    Marmayogi
    (1951)

    Andaman Kaithi
    (1952)

    Malaikallan
    (1954)

    Alibabavum 40
    Thirudargalum
    (1955)

    Madurai Veeran
    (1956)

    Chakravarthi Thirumagal
    (1957)

    Nadodi Mannan
    (1958)

    Arasilankumari
    (1961)

    Periya Idathu Penn
    (1963)

    Ayirathil Oruvan
    (1965)

    Thaikku Thalaimagan
    (1967)

    Kanavan
    (1968)

    Pudhiya Bhoomi
    (1968)

    Mattukkara Velan
    (1969)

    Nam Naadu
    (1969)

    Engal Thangam
    (1970)

    Ulagam Sutrum Valiban
    (1973)


    Vathyar is a techincal genius... Look at his eyes man... I mean the power....
    MGR's 1950s screen persona in adventure films constructed an image of political as well as physical invincibility. Often the themes of his films were derived from heroic ballads which are part of the oral tradition of rural Tamil Nadu. For example - Madurai Veeran (1956), one of his most popular films, is based on the legend of Madurai Veeran, a popular deity of Southern Tamil Nadu. His legend has been the subject of various ballads and plays and this was the second filmed version of the story.

    In the 1960s MGR turned to more 'realistic' fantasies mostly in a contemporary setting often playing someone from the oppressed class - a peasant, taxi driver or fisherman. For millions of fans, his image as the knight in shining armour, saving damsels in distress and being totally dutiful towards his mother was in fact a reality. Mother tongue, motherland and motherhood were what he based his popularity on. To quote M.S.S. Pandian in The Image Trap: M.G. Ramachandran in Film and Politics...


    "The social universe of the MGR is a universe of asymmetrical power.......The conflict between the upper caste/ class oppressors and MGR as a subaltern, and its resolution forms the core of the film. MGR, in the course of the conflict, appropriates several signs or symbols of authority or power from those who dominate."

    MGR used food, colour patterns (black and red, symbols of the DMK) and masquerades (often through double roles of oppressor and oppressed) to construct this universe. In Engal Thangam (1970) for example, MGR playing a truck driver Thangam, fights, sings, cares for the poor and preaches against smoking and drinking. The DMK colours - black and red are frequently featured in the clothes he wears. He even appears as himself in the opening scene at a Small Savings Function. Thangam is in the audience and even refers to him as 'vathiyar' (teacher), the reverent title by which he was known to his fans!

    MGR had joined the DMK party in 1953 and remained its member till 1972. This included a brief stint in the Madras Legislative Council from 1962 - 64, being a member of the Legislative Assembly (1967) when the party won the state elections and the DMK Treasurer (1970).

    He fell out with the DMK chief Karunanidhi and used the DMK's propaganda idiom against the DMK itself in Nam Naadu (1969). In 1972 he set up the rival Anna - DMK party claiming allegiance to the DMK's founder, the late Annadurai.

    In 1977, his party renamed the AIADMK won the state elections in alliance with Indira Gandhi's Congress party. MGR became Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu and was re-elected for three consecutive terms. As Chief Minister, he organized a totalitarian crackdown on all political dissent while introducing populist schemes such as the Chief Minister's Nutritious Meal Programme.

    Having survived a bullet wound when he was shot at by fellow actor M.R. Radha in 1967 (which affected his speech), he achieved demi-god status following a paralytic stroke in 1984 which he survived for three years thus acquiring the label 'thrice born'. When he died in 1987, his funeral procession was attended by over 2 million people!

    A temple has been built in Madras with MGR as deity.


    http://www.upperstall.com/people/mgr.html

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    Tottal Poo Malarum of Vatthyar's Padakotti
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=4wl7XnFgUZc&search=mgr

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