MAKKAL THILAGAM MGR !!!

[Thirumaran]

Soorya,
That is a new info for me


However i am posting the song naan aanai ittal. I was trying to recollect fully..

Missed few lines. Some lines may not be perfect too.. some one can correct..


Naan aanai ittaal,
athu nadanthu vittal,
ingu yaezhaigal vaethanai padamaataar,
uyir ullavarai oru thunbam illai,
avar kanneer kadalilae vizhamaataar..
avar kanneer kadalilae vizhamaataar..

Oru Thavaru seythaal athai therinthu seythaal,
avan Devan endraalum vida maataen,
Udal Uzhaikka seyvaen athil pizhaikka seyvaen,
avar urimai porulgalai thoda maataen..

Ingu yaezhaigal yaengavum unmaigal thoongavum,
naanaa paarthirupaen..
Oru kaalam varum en kadamai varum,
athai eppoathum (ethir)paarthirupaen..
..............
...........

silar aasaikkum thaevaikkum vaazhvukkum vasadhikkum,
Oooraar kaal pidipaar,
Oru maana millai athil eena millai,
avar eppoathum vaal pidipaar..
munbu yaesu vanthaar pinbu gandhi vanthaar,
intha maanidar thirunthida piranthaar..
ivar thiruntha villai manam varuntha villai..
antha maelor sonnathai maranthaar..

[m_23_bayarea]

Bayarea

true ....aandavanay un paadhangalai was the catch song and election song for admk during that phase...
While mukaa was vociferously shouting on top of the world that MG cannot speak , cannot walk cannot do anything .....

all of a sudden a video clipping came from Brooklyn and it was flashed in Doordharshan and all ADMK election vans showing MG in hospital showing V

and this created waves amongst the tn voters and the rest was history

indeed it was a remarkable come back of MG which lasted for 3 years

and finally when he landed in meenambaakam airport he was given a grand reception and on seeing the ocean of a crowd, unable to control emotions, he cried .... i still remember this

And on his Welcome back meeting at Seerani Arangam, where Rajiv Gandhi joined hands with him and waved at that flood of crowd, it was AWESOME !!!!

[joe]

ORU THAVARU SEIDHAAL ADHAI THERINDHU SEIDHAAL AVAN DEVAN ENDRAALUM VIDA MAATEN ( probably mukaa and his governance ?? )

ORU KALAM YEN KADAMAI VARUM INDHA KAYAVAR KOOTATHAI OZIPPEN
PODHU NEEDHIYILAY PUDHU PAADHAYILAY VARUM NALOOR MUGATHILAY VIZIPEN !!



this makes me wonder whether he already had some hidden agenda !!

Actually these lines pointed to then congress govt and MGR represents DMK ..But after MGR quit DMK ,it fitted for DMK

[joe]

Many here pointed out many MGR songs with political shade when he was in DMK ..had a hidden agenda..But surprisingly one MGR song directly praised MU.ka ..That is "Naan seththu pizhachavanda" from 'Engal thangam'

In this song there is a line "Oodum rayilil thalaivaiththu ,thamizh maanam kaakka..(?)..valarntha jaathiyada..athnaal tholvi illayada" ,which directly denotes Mu.ka 's kallakudi protest.

Ofcourse this movie produced by MU.Ka family 'Megala pictures' and dialogue by Late Central minister Murasoli Maran.

During the production of the movie,Arinjar anna passed away

[joe]

One more censored line from MGR song..

'Nenjam undu nermai undu" from 'En Annan"

The original line
"Athil neethi varavillai enil VaaLai uyarththu"

changed to

"Athil neethi unnai theedi varum maalai thoduththu"

But you can see the original from MGR's lip movement.

[joe]

Oru kaalam varum en kadamai varum,
athai eppoathum (ethir)paarthirupaen..
..............
...........

ஒரு காலம் வரும் என் கடமை வரும்
இந்த கூட்டத்தின் ஆட்டத்தை ஒழிப்பேன்
பொது நீதியிலே புதுப்பாதையிலே
வரும் நல்லோர் முகத்திலே விழிப்பேன்!

[Murali Srinivas]

Thanks Thirumaran.

Joe,Balaji & other friends,

Let me add some thing to what you have already said. Before that in your list of MGR films from 1973, shall I take the liberty to correct something?

1973- Pattikattu Ponniah- Flop

1975- Naalai Namadhe- Flop. This remake of Yadon Ki Baarat fell flat on it's face inspite of advertisising it as MGR's 125th movie. To offset the loss of this and the average N.Mudippavan which was released before NN, Idhyakani was released immediately.

NM- 09.05.1975
NN- 04.07.1975
IK- 22.08.1975

1976- N.T.Vanagu- Ave
U.Karangal - Flop
U.Uzhaipavan - Flop

Thirumaran,did MMSP had a 100 day run in Chennai? Because it ran max in our Madurai, which was always said to be a MGR citadel and there itself it ran for 75 days only. This was the first MGR movie that had just a 35 day run in Tiruchy.

Regards

[Murali Srinivas]

Regarding MGR's Hidden Agenda, peple normally think that he started after Annadurai's death or after DMK came to power.But for me he had this agenda right from the 50's, even when Annadurai was alive and DMK was just in the opposition. Take for example Nadodi Mannan,that was released in 1958. In that MGR had talked about governance and the priorities of a government, MGR himself while replying to the Budget Discussions in 1978 (his first Budget) said that NM itself was my answer to all opposition charges,as it covered everything. In that movie, his minister would be talking about socialism when the villain group Thalapathis will ask "appothu ungal aatchiyil panakkararkalae irrukkamaataarkala?" to which MGR will reply "Thavaru, Ezhaikalae irrukkamaataarkal". Then he will go on to say"Neengal Maaligaiyil nindrukondu Makkalai parkeereerkal. Naan Makkalodu Makkalaga nindru parkiren." Whenever he had a chance he used it,like in Paasam,in the song "Ulagam Piranththu Enakkaga" there will be a saranam like
Thavazhum Inamam Thanga Ratham
Tharakai Patitha Mani Makudam
Uyirgal Vaazhum Kaalaikoodam
Kodathu Enathu Arasangam

In Panam Padaithavan (1963) he will go to Calcutta to represent TamilNadu in Tennis and when he wins, the person who gives him the prize will say "Unga Vetri Tamizharkalin Vetri". This dialogue will get a thundering applause after 1972,when the DMK people accused him of being a Malayalee. This shows how he had a foresight.In the same movie,in the song 'Kaan Pona Pokkile" Vaali in just 2 lines would encapsulate the entire phenomenon called MGR
Irunthalum Marainthalum Per Solla Vendum
Ivar Pole Yaar Endru Oor Solla Vendum.

In Panakkara Kudumbam (1964) in the song "Ondru Engal Jaathiye",he will sing "Engal Aatchi Endrum Naalai Intha Mannile" which again was a clever insertion.

To be contd

[Thirumaran]

Thirumaran,did MMSP had a 100 day run in Chennai? Because it ran max in our Madurai, which was always said to be a MGR citadel and there itself it ran for 75 days only. This was the first MGR movie that had just a 35 day run in Tiruchy.
Regards

It did ran 100 days in chennai. I think that movie was released when MGR was in power. Since all the other movies where MGR officially involved in direction were hits this also ran(made to run probably) for 100 days. However these things i came across only. I dont have any valid proofs for any box office status for the movies from past generation.
However ur logic does not fit for me. Agreed that Madurai is MGR's strong hold comparing to other places. Does not mean that maximum run for all his movies should be in Madurai only? I may be wrong also.
thanks for giving those infos..

[Murali Srinivas]

MGR- Political Agenda contd
In Enga Veetu Pillai, you people were talking about the obvious Naan Anaiyittal song. But in the very first song "Kankalum Kaavadi ", iin the movie if you notice, the last line of the first saranam will be like this
"Naadalem Unnai Kandu Pugazh Paadatum". This line will be repeated twice.In the first instance the camera will focus on Tamizh Thai Silai and the second time camera will closeup on MGR.In the same way in the second saranam, the last line will be
"Unnalae Makkal Ennam Niraiveratum" and the camera positions will be ditto.
In Padagotti (1964) again as it is obvious to all he will even come with the Black/Red costume and the dialogues were again tailor made.(eg) while arguing with Nambiar regarding the handing over of signed/thumb impressed documents which would have been pledged,Nambiar will ask " yaarkitte vanthu enna pesaraeinu theriyutha onakku?'' for which MGR will reply" Nalla Theriyume,en Makkalite vanthu avanga ariyamaiyai payanpaduthi kollai adikiravangakitte pesituiruken". This again he used effectively after 1972.
Again in Ayirathil Oruvan (1965) his role itself will be designed as a Thalaivar fighting for the rights of the slaves.The famous dialogue which is still used widely is the argument b/w MGR & Nambiar.
Nambiar " Madham Konda Yaanai enna seiyum theriyuma?''
MGR " Sinam Konda Singathidam Thotru Odum"
Nambiar " Tholviye ariyathavan Naan"
MGR " THOLVIYAI ETHIRIKKU PARISALITHE PAZHAKIYAVAN NAAN "
you can imagine the situation in the theatre during this scene.

In Naan Anaiyital (1966) movie, in the song " Pirantha Idam Thedi " , the second line will be
" Un Thiruvadi Thamarai Thodangiya Paathayil DESAM nanmai peruga". Incidentally I saw the movie in Aug 1979 and that was the time AIADMK had joined the Central Ministry headed by Charan Singh and that was the first time a non-Congress person from TN had become a Central Minister (Bala Pazhanoor & Sathiyavani Muthu were inducted). You can imagine the reaction in the theatre.

After the DMK came to power, he started doing it openly and here also many dialogues that were meant for the villains in the movies actually helped him when he founded ADMK. Though many will say it is mere coincidence,I for one always believed that he had political power in his mind. He planned it in such a way that people who had heard and seen all this in screen readily accepted him when it came to the crunch.
You take Adimai Penn, Cho will be tied to a tree and when MGR's people start to beat him, MGR will intervene and set him free. Cho will say "Thalaivarina ippadille irukkanaum, sonnevudane thondarkal ketkaranga".
In Nam Naadu, Vaangaiya Vathiyaraiya song, full and full was about his political ambitions.When you listen to
" Annanin Thambi Unmai Thozhan
Ezhaikku Thalaivan Neengaliyya" is a glistening proof that MGR had set his eyes on the throne. Remember Annadurai passed away in Feb 1969 and NN was released in Nov 1969 (Deepavali), when MuKa was the CM. In the same song the lines
"Poyyum Purattum Thunaiyaikondu Pizhaithavarellam Ponanga
Moolaikku Moolai Thooki Erinthum Thalaikunivaga Ananga"
again helped him after 1972. Again the last saranam of this song will end like this
"Oorukku Uzhaithalae Ezhai Urimaiyai Mathithale
Perumaikal Thedi Varum Thane Padhavikal Naadi Varum"

Again for his Dheerga Dharisanam, another example that comes to my mind is the song "Angae Siripavarkal Sirikattum" in Rickshawkaran. The movie was released in 1971 May and MGR was very much in DMK. When he came out, this song became handy and two incidents I remember in TN politics when this song assumed gigantic proportion were, when his first govt was dismissed in 1980, in the wake of electoral loss in Parliament elections which saw the return of Indira Gandhi to Power. This song was played everywhere and we could see the impact ( Infact as an avid NT fan,I had grudgingly seen the truimph of MGR which I could take only with the pinch of salt at that time). The second instance was 5 years back, in 2001 (same election period as of now),when JJ's nominations were rejected and she effectively used this song to the hilt that Rathathin Rathangal simply went berserk in her meetings during that election campaign and the song scene was played on Jaya TV repeatedly on the day results came out. I just wonder about the lines
"Thotam Kakka Potta Veli Payirai thinpatho
Athai Kelvi Ketka Alilamal Paarthu Nirpatho
Naan Oru Kai Parkiren Neram Varum Ketkiren
Poonai alla Pulithan ena Poga Poga Kattukiren"
How well this suited for his campaign. In the same manner the song " Kashmir Beautiful Kashmir" in Idhya Veenai was written in 1970 and picturised in 70 itself. This movie was released on 20th Oct,1972. MGR who was suspended on 10th Oct '72 started ADMK on 17th Oct '72. This song contained two lines
"Ellorukkum Vazhi Katta Naan Irukiren
Vandharai Varaverka Kathirukiren"

See how these lines were useful to him. Another dialogue in Idhyakani,may be that was coincidental but still I would like to point out how his dialogues can be relevant to any circumstance. In Idyakani, MGR as a police officer will arrest Radha Saluja on a murder charge.Pandari Bai, his mother will object. Cut to the time July 1st week of 2001.This movie was released in Madurai Meenakshi Talkies. I had been to the movie as one of my friends insisted on me accompanying him. If you remember, MuKa, Maran & TR Balu were arrested on June 30th and everyone will be aware of the reactions.There was a debate going on whether Police had the rights to arrest Central Ministers. Now again cut to Idhyakani arrest scene. After lot of arguments Panadaribai will say " En Marumagalai kaithu seyyavo,ingeirunthu kondupogavo naan vidamatten" to which MGR will reply" Police-ar avanga kadamaiyai seyyumpothu thadukiravanga yaara irunthalum sari, avangalaiyum kaidhu seyya vendrikkum". You will not believe, the whole theatre simply erupted and " Puratchi Thalaivar Vaazhga" & " Puratchi Thalaivi Vaazhga" simply rent the air for quite some time.

So for me MGR was a clever strategist, master of Marketing and one who planned every move and succeded to the T. As one of the friends had pointed out, the lines in Naan Padichen Kanchiyele

Makkal Nalam Makkal Nalam Endre Solluvar; Tham
Makkal Nalam Ondre Than Manathil Kolluvar

though written in 1974 still remains the eternal truth in TN Politics.

Regards