Alternative medical Therapies: science or pseudo science?

[pavalamani pragasam]

Thought so too

[r_kk]

Homeopathy and digitized medicine:

One of the major set back to homeopathic medicine in the last few years is due to the claiming of “Digital recording and transfer of Biological Information” by prestigious homeopathic scientist Dr. Jacques Benveniste (no more now, died in Paris on October 3, 2004), who was the major poineer of concept of “memory of water” . The entire Homeopathy is based on this unscientific concept.

He is a French Immunologist, He had published a contravarcial paper on homeopathy (333, 816 ) in prestigious science journal “NATURE” in June 30, 1988. Before publishing it in “Nature”, his paper was peer reviewed and published with the stipulation that they could send a team to observe a replication of the experiment. The major downfall of homeopathy has started after the verification team failed to notice any positive results.

The next downfall of homeopathy has started after the claiming of digital recording of memory of water and transfers the medicinal properties electronically. This claim leads to the award of second ignoble price to Benveniste.

I feel our hubbers should be careful and understand these indigestible claims of homeopathy before choosing it as a alternative medicine for life threatening diseases.

Read more details below.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Benveniste

[Shakthiprabha.]

WOW what INFOS!! That too JUST when I started my homeopathy yest, for some personal problem of mine!

GOD BLESS ME.

[binal142001]

I'm here still alive after using 30 years of homeopathy(since my birth) for all big and small illnesses...
Homeopathy is a very reliable method of treatment...it does not suppress ur illness like allopathy but it gets the illness out of ur body....
My entire family is homeopathic..and have got solution to all their medical problems....by GODS GRACE...

[Shakthiprabha.]

hi binal... thats what i heard and believe too. Good for u and ur family. In fact I am planning to introduce my daughter to homeopathy too, for regular small routine problems and checkups.

What bout those steroids..? Many other alternate medicines claim that they are devoid of steroids. (like ayurveda, sidda etc)

[binal142001]

SP,
To my best knowledge Homeopathy too is devoid of steroids.....
U could make sure with ur Doc.

[dev]

I'm here still alive after using 30 years of homeopathy(since my birth) for all big and small illnesses...
Homeopathy is a very reliable method of treatment...it does not suppress ur illness like allopathy but it gets the illness out of ur body....
My entire family is homeopathic..and have got solution to all their medical problems....by GODS GRACE...

Same here... I too have been taking homoeopathy for small & a some complex illnesses right from my childhood... Never had any problem so far...

Sakthiprabha, If need be, I can give you the contacts of one good homoeopathy practioner in Bangalore... He's one excellent person who fits perfectly into the profession... He has his clinic in Sanjay Nagar... There is another excellent ayurveda practitoner as well in the same area... Both are so very dedicated to their profession...Let me know if u need more details...

[r_kk]

Thanks Dev and binal142001,
I accept yours “from childhood onwards” statements on homeopathy. I also came across many similar claims of people those who firmly believes that
* prayer alone can cure disease
* holy water alone can cure diseases
* some healing touch alone can cure diseases

Even my mother having a strong belief that “black tea with lemon” can cure most of the dysenteries. Unfortunately science doesn’t accept such claims unless it is repeatable under scientific environments. Doesn’t mean that these claims are bogus or self deceiving? No… In fact many clinical trial using placebo pills (sugar pills without any medicine) creates positive effects. What we have to understand here is the effect of positive thinking on immune system and self recovery process of human body against most of the common and new diseases.

Homeopathic medicines are unfortunately close to placebo pills as per proven Avogadro principle. The probability of having one molecule of medicine in 1 liter of 30X medicine is nearly nil. Hence Homeopathy is not only free from any steroids and dangerous chemicals but also from any medicine (in scientific terms). Even if we accept the memory of water concept, then there are million times of chances that water might have obtained thousands of such memories from it formation of H2O molecule. Please read my first post explaining all these mathematics.

[Badri]

r_kk: Sorry if you've already covered this in your extensive posting on this subject, but is the concept of "memory of water" the origin of Homeopathy, or is it an offshoot by a latter day proponent?

I always thought Homeopathy as originally conceived was based on the idea of Similia Similibus Curantur or Like cures like.

(This is also a concept in Ayurveda something to the effect of Ushnam Ushnena Samathi meaning heat is treated with heat or something like that. Please note I am not drawing any parallels between the two systems).

My only doubt was what is the original premise of Homoepathy as propounded by Hahnemann?

[r_kk]

Memory of water (by Jacques Benvensita, 1984) is a very recent concept. When Samuel Hahnemann proposed the Homeopathic concept based on “laws of similar” (similar cure similar) and “potentisation” (more dilution brings more strength to cure), Avogadro principle was not there.

Even though Heinemann and Avogadro are of same period, Avogadro’s paper was published (1811) just few years later than most of the Heinemann works published (1786 ~1810). The Avogadro’s theory had taken nearly 50 years to become very popular and shattered the entire basis of Homeopathic concept of “dilution to the micro level”. Then the homeopathic believers were forced to provide a modified concept overcoming the Avogadro’s limit. They end up in “memory of water” in which water molecule remembers all other molecules which came in to contact before (even though not present now). Their further advancement and research lead to recording possibilities of such memory (1990~2000).