Understanding "I" - Vedanta

[Uthappam]

that is the oldest information that you can think of, not any older?

Ask idiappam!

[Idiappam]

that is the oldest information that you can think of, not any older?

Ask idiappam!

dear sivajayan
what do you mean?. Only in 18th century people understood about egg and sperm?.

What are you asking me? People knew about the egg and sperm milleniums ago.. Ask Thirumoolar (3rd or 5th Cent CE)

Pattinathar - I don't know which Pattinathar - sang
uNarvukalangi olugiya vinthu
... UrusirOnitha meethu kalanthu --

So even the Sithars knew it a long time ago.

Maybe - you are talking about understanding the egg and sperm? Of course, they are better understood now. The Sithars did not have the microscope.. That was invented - 16th century.

[Rohit]

What I talk about is advaita, there is no creator and a creation.

Well, dear Pradheep, there is no creator and creation for the uncasued, absolute evolution of the universe + life either. So long as there is no creator and no creation, you are in absolute agreement with what I have precisely said and proved for the uncaused, absolute evolution of the universe and life from the uncaused, reactive, changeable, chaotic, insentient, transformable and by nature, mutable and evolving energy/matter.

A single cell that arose in sea evolved through series of life after death process finally to the stage of human.

My dear Pradheep, if that is your concept of life and death, again you are in absolute agreement with what I have said that the only scientific process of "rebirth" is through the recycling and conservation of the energy/matter after death.

Now the most shuddering and demanding question for you is:

Question: - Precisely how and where did the raw material i.e. the reactive, changeable, chaotic, insentient, transformable, mutable and evolving energy for the formation of the Universe + A single cell life come from?

[pradheep]

Dear Rohit (Soonya , nothingness)

I am Conscious principle, blissful, sentient, untransformable immutable, unevolving, unchaotic principle.

You have best described yourelf and your source as " dumb, changeable, unconscious, insentient, selfless, energy, transformable, mutable, evolving, chaotic, nature"


it is obvious from your postings that you best describe yourself as dumb, changeable, unconscious, insentient, selfless, energy, transformable, mutable, evolving, chaotic, "nothingness" nature.

Rohit continue your chaotic postings.

[stranger]

Sivajayan a.k.a UKW, a.k.a Madras slum dweller, nice to see you back again too.

Hey SRS!

Talk about the "I-whatever" or respond to shivajayan.

Dont bring up some other "honorable hubbers" here and try to INSULT them because of your incompetance in the current argument.

Let this be your last attempt to insult hubbers who are no way related to the current argument.

[sivajayan]

dear sivajayan
what do you mean?. Only in 18th century people understood about egg and sperm?.

And to which cetnury you belong dear Pradheep?

Or should I assume that your existence is the result of a honey bee and pollination?

[sivajayan]

I am Conscious principle, blissful, sentient, untransformable immutable, unevolving, unchaotic principle.

Simply god?

Impertinence is the correct expression I guess.

Don't try to fly high near god cause you might not come down

[pradheep]

Dear Sivajayan
The "I" does not indicate "here" the mortal body, but the Conscious principle behind it. So when pradheep says "I" am God, he refers not to the mortal body, but that principle( you may call it as sakthi, God, energy, consciousness, Brahman, Allah, Jesus, whatever).
"I" am the real driver and the body is only the vehicle(car).

[honey bee]

dear sivajayan
what do you mean?. Only in 18th century people understood about egg and sperm?.

And to which cetnury you belong dear Pradheep?

Or should I assume that your existence is the result of a honey bee and pollination?

Honey bee and pollination!

I was just a silent viewer but now I could not resist anymore!
Silly but funny this Sivajayan.

[sivajayan]

"I" am the real driver and the body is only the vehicle(car).

And what fuel?

Who or what were you in the 18th centuary?

"You" the bull and the body the cart?


See how the time is passing by!