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23rd July 2005, 05:29 PM
#11
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There were other guys like :
Pulamaipithan
Panju arunachalam
Na Kamarasan
Mu Metha
But we could not think of anybody other than Valee or Vairamuthu
Why why why ???
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23rd July 2005 05:29 PM
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23rd July 2005, 06:31 PM
#12
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VM is rich in his imaginations!
"Pal mazhai ku kathirum boomiyallava, Pandikai ku kathirukum Sami allava".
"Kodi keethanamum, Kavi kortha varthaikalum thuli kanner pol artham tharumo".
Valee (from the little I've heard) is simple and to the point.
I like VM for his poetical richness.
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23rd July 2005, 06:37 PM
#13
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VMs famous ones :
1. manidha manidha eni un vizigal
2. Pon maalai pozudhu - especially kelvigalal velvigalai naan seiven
3. andhi mazai pozigiradhu
4. raasavay varuthamaa - it was a befitting song for Shivaji
one of the words - Aagayam surungumaa , suriyan karukkumaa
Nobodyelse would have given such a wording for Shivaji . Just took him to the highest level in a few words.
Thats the pen strength of VM
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23rd July 2005, 07:32 PM
#14
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Once, when Music Dorector V.Kumar, Lyric Writer Vaalee, Director KB were sitting for a duet song composition for the moveis "Ethir Neechal".
At that time V.Kumar was talking about the Kannadasan's famous song with word play (vaarththai jaalangal) in Veera Abimanyu the well known song:
"Paarthen...sirithen...pakkam vara thudiththen
Unai then ena naan ninaithen... andha malaithen
idhuven malaithen".
V.Kumar told Valee, "we should compose a song like that. As a challenge I am asking you to give a pallavi end with "Kall" but should not mention the actual "Kall" (a kind of arrack), and also end with "Then" but should not mention actually "then"(honey). Come on write a pallavi like that".
Vaalee was thinking for few minutes, then told his assistant to note down the song:
Thaamarai kannan'gal
Thenmalar kinnan'gal
Eththanai vannan'gal - muththamaai sindhumbothu
Pongidem ennan'gal
Maalaiyil sandhith'then
Maiyalil sindhith'then
Mangai naan kandith'then - kaadhalan theendumpodhu
Kaigalai mannith'then.
No doubt Vaalee is really great...........
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23rd July 2005, 07:36 PM
#15
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You know,
Andha naal gnabam nenjilay vandhathey - was written by Valee only !!
Again, in nizalgal - Madai thiranthu thaavum nadhialai naan
By valee only
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24th July 2005, 01:24 PM
#16
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Dear Sharadha,
I love the song - Edho yendham deivam from Babu
Especially the following words :
Pala nool padithu nee ariyum kalvi
Podhu nalan ninathu nee vazangum selvam
Pirar uyarvinilay unakirukkum inbam
Evai anaithilumay euppadhu dhan deivam
Beautifully framed. Wonderful song.
I just love it
Again in the same song ,
avan poo viriyum solailay manappan
Isai poonguyilin then kuralil inippan
Kulir maygamena daagathayay thanippan
etc etc
In a small song, he summarises what is Godliness and where God exists. Wonderful thinking by Valee
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24th July 2005, 01:29 PM
#17
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Hello Sharadha,
By the way, you have an indepth info on Valee and Shivaji. Hats off. Keep it up
I was thinking high about Shivaji and Valee. I admit now that there is another competitor for me !!
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24th July 2005, 03:14 PM
#18
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Dear Sharadhaji,
What you had expressed will be in the hearts of ALL THOSE WHO WERE A WITNESS DURING THAT GOLDEN PERIOD OF :
BARATHIRAJA, BALUMAHENDA, MAHENDRAN, BAGYARAJ
ASSOCIATED WITH ILAYARAJA , VAIRAMUTHU.
THE CREATIVITY , THE SENSE OF IMAGINATION, THE TREND SETTING VISION , THE MESSAGE THEY DELIVERED DURING THOSE YEARS.
THE GOLDEN PERIOD WAS BETWEEN - 1975 AND 1983 AND NOT BEYOND THAT.
YES, I WAS ONE OF THOSE FORTUNATE GUYS TO PHYSICALLY WITNESS THE RISE AND GROWTH OF THOSE GREAT PERSONALITIES.
I MISS THEM VERY VERY MUCH .
YOU KNOW WHY, WHENEVER I COME ACROSS SUCH MOVIES OR SUCH SONGS, I IMMEDIATELY GO BACK BY 25 YEARS AND REMEMBER MY SCHOOL DAYS / COLLEGE DAYS AND FEEL ISOLATED.
IMMEDIATELY , MY WIFE WILL COME TO MY RESCUE SAYING THAT YES THOSE GOLDEN DAYS WILL NEVER COME AGAIN IN LIFE .
REALLY REALLY REALLY, I MISS THOSE GOLDEN PERIOD- NOT ONLY ME, ALL MY CLASS MATES AND THOSE PEER FRIENDS OF MY GENERATION MISS THOSE DAYS AGAIN.
YOU KNOW, I ARRANGED FOR A GATHERING OF ALL MY OLD FRIENDS 3 MONTHS BACK WHEN I WAS IN CHENNAI AND WE ALL COULD MEET AND EXCHANGE ALL OUR OLD THOUGHTS . IN FACT WE USED TO FIGHT ABOUT BR, IR, MSV, MAHENDRAN, BALUMAHENDRA, BAGYARAJ ETC ETC AND COMPARE WITH KB OR MSV OR KV MAHADEVAN BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY , WE USED TO GO BACK AS FRIENDS.
Yes, you are right. Everything is missing and lost in Tamil film industry.
Rarely I come across - good movies
Seldom I could hear - melodius songs
Yes yes I miss all those golden days.
Affectionately your brother from Uganda
S.Balaji
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24th July 2005, 03:29 PM
#19
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Anbulla Saradhaji,
If you see my initial threads , you will realise that I was in search of my old Golden IRs intial period songs - like :
1. Naan pesa vanthen , sollathan vaarthai illai
2. Devan thiruchabai malargalay
3. Kalangal
4. Pani vizum poo nilavay
You know the above are all composed by IR during the intial years ( i mean in the late 70s ) when he took every opportunity as a challenge and was proving all his critics wrong by composing memorable songs . I repeat memorable songs loaded with melodies.
Even the great IR subsequently changed his style and became a total instrumentalist in the mid 80s and in the process lost his melody.
Like this I can write a big history about BR and Mahendran
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24th July 2005, 03:40 PM
#20
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By the way,
Yaarai nambi naan porandhen pongada ponga - Shivaji / TMS from Enga uru Raaja
Who wrote that ??
Is it Valee or Kannadasan
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