Ulagam enbadhu ethanai pEr?

[geno]

¾¢Õò¾ì¸ý ÁüÚõ ;¡¸÷ ‚Áí¨¸ §À¡ýÈ "Å¢ò¾¸÷¸¨Ç" þíÌ «¨Æò¾ §¿¡ì¸õ À¢ÃÁ¡¾Á¡¸ ¿¢¨È§ÅȢ¢Õ츢ÈÐ!

¯ñ¨Á¨Âî ¦º¡øø§ÅϦÁýÈ¡ø, þó¾ ÁýÈ ¨ÁÂò¾¢ø - 2000-ÅÐ ¬ñÎ Å¡¸¢ø, ÀÄ
«È¢»÷ ¦ÀÕÁì¸û þíÌ ¯Ä¡Å¢É÷. Á½¢ Á½¢ÅñÉý, ÌÁ¡÷ ÌÁÃôÀý, §ƒÀ¢, þá. ÓÕ¸ý §À¡ý§È¡÷. þýÛõ ÃÅ¢ Íó¾Ãõ, «Û, ¸¡ïºÉ¡, ÁШà ţÃý, ƒ¢ÊáŢð §À¡ý§È¡Õõ ܼ.

À¢ýÉ÷ ¬ÆÁ¡¸ Ţš¾¢ò¾ø ±ýÀÐ ÅÆ즸¡Æ¢óÐ §À¡Â¢Õó¾Ð..Á£ñÎõ ¿ñÀ÷¸û ‚Áí¨¸, ¾¢Õò¾ì¸ý, þýÛõ ¾Á¢ú þÄ츢Âò¾¢Ã¢¸Ç¢ø Á¡º¢Ä¡Á½¢, ¦¿Î了ƢÂý §À¡ý§È¡÷ - «ó¾ Á¡¾¢Ã¢Â¡É "¬Æ" ¯Ø¾¨Äì ¦¸¡ñÎ Åó¾¢Õ츢ȡ÷¸û! «Å÷¸ÙìÌ ¿õ ¦¿ïº¡÷ó¾ ¿ýÈ¢¸û ӾĢø!

[geno]

¾¢Õò¾ì¸ý «Å÷¸§Ç!

I see all your points. Also I am pleased with the tenor and grace in your rebuttal

þЧÀ¡Ä ¯í¸û ¸È¡Ã¡É À¡÷¨Å¸¨Ç - ¸ÕòÐì¸¨Ç ¦¾¡¼÷óÐ þí§¸ ÅÆíÌžüÌ - ¯í¸¨Çî º£ñÊ Å¢ÎŦ¾ýÈ¡Öõ ¡ý «¾üÌò ¾Â¡÷!


‚Áí¨¸ «Å÷¸§Ç!

´ýÚ - ¸¡Äò¾¢ý Á¡üÈí¸Ç¢ø ±ùÅ¡Ú º¢Ú¦¾öÅ ÅÆ¢À¡Î º¢¨¾ì¸ôÀð¼Ð ±ýÀ¨¾ ÅÃÄ¡üÚì ÌȢ£¼¡¸ì ¦¸¡ûÅÐ.

þÃñ¼¡ÅÐ - º¢Ú ¦¾öÅ ÅÆ¢À¡Î ±ôÀÊ «¼ìÌÓ¨ÈìÌ ¯ðÀÎò¾ôÀðÎ, ¦ÀÕ ¦¾öÅ ÅÆ¢À¡ ðÊø º¢¨¾ó¾Ð ±ýÀ¨¾ º¢ò¾Ã¢ì¸¢ÈÐ ±ýÛõ «ÏÌÓ¨È.

«üÒ¾õ! ¸Å¢¨¾Â¢ý «¸ò¨¾ «Æ¸¡¸ò ¦¾¡ÌòÐì ÜÈ¢ Å¢ðË÷¸û! §ÁÖõ, "§Áü¸¢Ä¢ÕóÐ Åó¾ ±Å§É¡ ´ÕÅý" ±ýÀ¾ý "¯ð¸Õò¨¾" ¿¡Ûõ ºÃ¢Â¡¸ì ¸Åɢ¡РþÕóРŢð§¼ý!

«ö¡!! ¯í¸Ç¢¼Á¢ÕóÐ ¸ü¸ «§É¸õ ¯ûÇÐ!

¸Å¢¨¾Â¢ý 'ºý¿¡Â¸ò¾ý¨Á' ÌÈ¢ò¾ ¯í¸û À¡÷¨ÅÔõ, ÌÈ¢ôÒì¸Ùõ º¢ÈôÀ¡É¨Å!

¸Å¢¨¾ þо¡ý ±É ŨÃÂÚì¸ôÀ𼦾ýÈ¡ø, ¾¡ˆ Á¸¡Ä¢ý «ÆÌõ, ¿õ §¸¡Â¢ø¸Ç¢ý ¸õÀ£ÃÓõ, þо¡ý...þùÅÇ×¾¡ý... ±É ŨÃÂÚì¸ôÀ¼ þÂÖõ. Ineffable beauty ±ýÀÐ ¿øÄ ¸Å¢¨¾Â¢ý «í¸¦ÁýÀ¨¾ ¿ñÀ÷¸û ¯½÷ÅÐ ¿Äõ.

«¼¼¡! «Õ¨Á "ineffable beauty" ±ý¸¢È ¯í¸û ¦º¡øÄ¡¼ø!

§ÀÏí¸¡ø §ÀÏõ ¯ÕÅ¡Ìõ «øÄÛÁ¡"¢ÕôÀÐ ¸Å¢¨¾ìÌõ ¦À¡ÕóÐÁøÄÅ¡?!

¬Æ ¯ØÀÅÃøÄÅ¡?!! ¬¸§Å¾¡ý! '¬úÅ¡÷' À¡¼Ä¢ø þÕóÐ ¦À¡Õò¾Á¡É ¯Å¨Á ¦¸ ¡ñÎ ÅóРŢðË÷¸û!!!

þó¾ "Å¢ò¾¸ò¾ý¨Á" ±í¸ÙìÌ þôÀÊôÀð¼ «üÒ¾ô À¡÷¨Å¸¨Ç ¦¾¡¼÷óÐ ÅÆí¸¢ì ¦ ¸¡ñ§¼ þÕ츧ÅñÎõ ±É §Åñθ¢§Èý!

[Roshan]

«Õ¨Á§Â¡ «Õ¨Á!!! ¸Å¢¨¾ì¸¡É ƒ£§É¡Å¢ý Å¢Çì¸õ, «¾ü¸¡É ¾¢Õò¾ì¸É¢ý ¸ñ§½¡ð¼õ, «¨¾ò ¦¾¡¼÷óÐ ¸Å¢¨¾ôÀüÈ¢ ;¡¸Ã¢ý Å¢ò¾¢Â¡ºÁ¡É §¸¡½òÐ¼É¡É À¡÷¨Å. Á¢¸×õ ú¢ò§¾ý - Á¸¢úó§¾ý. §¾÷ó¾ ãýÚ ¾Á¢ú Å¢ò¾¸÷¸û §Àº¢ì¦¸¡ûŨ¾ ±ò¾¨¸Â þ¨¼äÚõ þøÄ¡Áø ú¢ôÀ¦¾ýÀÐ µ÷ þɢ «ÛÀÅõ. «ó¾ þɢ «ÛÀÅò¨¾ ÅÆí¸¢Â¾üÌ ¿ýÈ¢!

þó¾ì ¸Å¢¨¾¨Â ¬ÃõÀò¾¢ø ÀÊòÐÅ¢ðÎ 'ÒâÂÅ¢ø¨Ä' ±ýÚ ¦º¡ý§Éý. ¬É¡ø þô§À¡Ð ¸Å¢¨¾¨Â ÓبÁ¡¸ô ÒâóЦ¸¡ñ¼Ð ÁðÎÁøÄ¡Áø , ¯í¸û ãÅâý Å¢Çì¸í¸Ç¢Öõ þÕóÐ, ¸Å¢¨¾Â¢ý ¸ÕòÐìÌ «ôÀ¡üÀð¼ º¢Ä Å¢¼Âí¸¨ÇÔõ ¸üÚì ¦¸¡ñ§¼ý.

±ÉÐ ÁÉõ ¿¢¨Èó¾ À¡Ã¡ðÎì¸Ùõ ¿ýÈ¢¸Ùõ!

¦¾¡¼÷óÐ þò¾¨¸Â ¸ÕòÐî ¦ºÃ¢×ûÇ ¿øÄ ¯¨Ã¡¼ø¸û þ¼õ¦ÀÚžüÌ - ;¡¸÷, ¾¢Õò¾ì¸ý §À¡ýÈ ¿ñÀ÷¸û Àí¸Ç¢ôÒ ÅÆí¸ §ÅñÎõ ±ýÚ «ýÒ¼ý §ÅñÊ즸¡û¸¢§Èý.

[Roshan]

ƒ£§É¡ ÁüÚõ ;¡¸÷,

«ó¾ '¬Ïõ «øÄý ¦ÀñÏõ «øÄý' ±ýÈ ¿õÁ¡úÅ¡÷ À¡¼ÖìÌõ ¦¸¡ïºõ Å¢Çì¸õ ¾¡Õí¸§Çý.

[Srimangai]

Geno,
I don't think I deserve the eulogies you have heaped..! Thank you very much for your encouragement and giving a chance to interact.
Will write in detail very soon.
WISH ALL THE FRIENDS A VERY HAPPY DIWALI!
ANPUDAN
SRIMANGAI

[geno]

I don't think I deserve the eulogies you have heaped..! Thank you very much for your encouragement and giving a chance to interact.

Srimangai!

ungaLukuththAn nAngal nanRi solla vENdum! tiruttakkanum neengaLum ingu vanthu karuththukkaL pakirnthu koNdathil engaLuku mikka migizchi!

nAn onRum extrapolate seyyavillai! Ive been telling the truth you guys are enriching the hub with your presence

Our salutes to that

I'm not going to leave you with just this!! .. innum neRaiya vivathangaL, karuththarangukaL - ellAm seyya vENDum - neengaL neRaiya ezutha vENdum - intha thiriyil mattumallAthu - neRaiya thirikaLil ezuthavENdum.

ithuvE emathu viruppam!

[Bdolf Hilter]

XYZ

[Srimangai]

Roshan,thanks for your comments. As Geno has said, we can do lots of discussions, vivaadhangaL, kartthuparimaatrangaL in this. My main limitation is the time.... As I travel frequently, it is difficult to get the net connection in remote places.
Very rarely people get the opportunity of reading good poetry and discuss on it with extra ordinary people like Geno , TT and our friends. I am very much pleased to be this much lucky!

¿õÁ¡úšâý À¡¼ø ÌÈ¢òÐ §¸ðÊÕó¾£÷¸û. «ÅÃÐ À¡¼¨ÄìÌÈ¢òÐ §Àº ºüÚõ «Õ¸¨¾ÂüÈÅý ±ýÈ¡Öõ, «ôÀ¡¼ø¸û ±ýÛû ¯ñ¼¡ì¸¢Â ¾¡ì¸ò¨¾ À¸¢÷óЦ¸¡û¸¢§Èý.

¬úÅ¡÷À¡¼ø¸Ç¢ø Á¢¸×õ challenging ¿õÁ¡úšâý À¡¼ø¸û ±ýÀÐ ±ÉÐ ¸ÕòÐ. Á¢¸ Ó츢ÂÁ¡¸ þÕ À¡¼ø¸û Á¢¸×õ À¢ÃõÁ¢ô¨À ¯ñ¼¡ì¸¢Â¨Å. «¾¢ø ´ýÚ ¿£í¸û §¸ð¼Ð.
¿õÁ¡úÅ¡÷ ¾ý¨É ´Õ ¾¨ÄŢ¡¸ô À¡Å¢òÐ, ¾ý ¾¨ÄÅÉ¢ý º¢Èô¨À Å¢ÅÃ¢ì¸ þÂÄ¡Ð §À¡Å¨¾ §¾¡Æ¢ìÌ ¯¨ÃôÀ¾¡¸ ±Ø¾ôÀð¼ À¡¼ø þÐ. ¾¨ÄÅý þ¨È¨Á ±ýÀÐ ¯ûÇ£Î.

"¬½øÄý, ¦Àñ½øÄý «øÄ¡ø «Ä¢ÔÁøÄý"

þ¨ÈÅý ¬ñ, ¦Àñ «øÄÐ ¿Îò¾¸õ ±ýÈ ±ø¨Ä¸ÙìÌì ¸ðÎôÀ¼¡¾Åý.

"¸¡½ÖÁ¡¸¡ý. ¯ÇÉøÄý þø¨ÄÂøÄý"

«Åý ¸¡Ïõ ¦À¡ÕÇ¢ý ±ø¨Ä¸Ç¢ø «¸ôÀ¼¡¾Åý. þÕôÀÐ , þøÄ¡¾Ð ±ýÛõ ±ø¨Ä¸Ùõ «ÅÛ츢ø¨Ä. beyond being and nothingness.
þÐŨà þ¨È¨Á ÌÈ¢òÐ ±Ø¾¢ÂÐ, ¯À¿¢¼¾í¸Ç¢Öõ , ÀÄ ¾òÐÅô ¦À¡Õû¸Ç¢Öõ ¸¡½Ä¡õ.

'«Õ¸¢§Ä§Â þÕìÌõ, ¦¾¡¨ÄàÃò¾¢§Ä þÕìÌõ.
þÕìÌõ, þøÄ¡ÁÄ¢ÕìÌõ., «¨Éò¾¢ø ¯ûÇ¢Öõ þÕìÌõ. «¨Éò¾¢ý ¦ÅǢ¢§ÄÔõ þÕìÌõ" - ±ýÈÐ ®§º¡À¿¢¼¾õ.(Eshopanishad)

þ¨¾ µÀý¦†Á÷ ±ÄìTððáý §Á¸õ (electron cloud) ÌÈ¢òÐî ¦º¡øž¢ø ¯À§Â¡¸¢ò¾¡÷ ( À¡÷ì¸... Fritjoff KapraÅ¢ý Tao of Physics - an excellent book on physics and philosophy )
þÕì¸ðÎõ....

¿õÁ¡úšâý «¸ýÈ À¡÷¨Å§Â þùÅâ¸Ç¢ý «Îò¾ÀÊ¡¸ ÅÕž¢ø þÕ츢ÈÐ!
±Øи¢È¡÷

"§ÀÏí¸¡ø §ÀÏõ ¯ÕÅ¡Ìõ «øÄÛÁ¡ö"

¾¨ÄÅý (þ¨ÈÅý) , ¿¡õ §ÀÏõ ( ¸ÕÐõ) ¯ÕÅ¡¸×õ ¬¸¢È¡ý... «ÐÁðÎõ «ÅÉÐ ±ø¨Ä¢ø¨Ä. «ôÀñÒ þøÄ¡¾¢ÕôÀÐõ «Åý Àñ§À. ¬¸, þ¨ÈÅý ¿¡õ ±ó¾ ¯ÕÅ¢ø À¡÷츢§È¡§Á «ó¾ ¯ÕÅ¡¸ «¨Á¸¢È¡ý ±ýÀÐõ, «ùÅ¡Ú þøÄ¡¾¢ÕôÀÐõ «ÅÉÐ ÀñÒ ±ýÚõ ¦À¡ÕÇ¡¸¢ÈÐ.

"§¸¡½¢ò¾¢Èõ À¨¼ò¾ ±õÁ¡¨ÉìÜ×¾§Ä"

þò¾ý¨Á À¨¼ò¾ ´Õ ¾¨ÄÅ¨É ±ôÀÊ Å¢Ç¢ô§Àý ±É ¾¨ÄÅ¢ Å¢Â츢ȡû - ±É À¡¼¨Ä «¨Áò¾¢Õ츢ȡ÷.
¸ÅÉ¢ì¸! þôÀ¡¼Ä¢ø ´Õþ¼ò¾¢Öõ ¾ÉÐ ¨Å½Åº¢ò¾¡ó¾ò¨¾ì ¸¡ñÀ¢ì¸Å¢ø¨Ä. ¦ÅÌ ºÉ¿¡Â¸ô§À¡ì̼ý, ÀÃó¾ §¿¡ì̼ý «¨Á¸¢ýÈ þôÀ¡¼¨Ä ¿¡ý Å¢Â측¾ ¿¡Ç¢ø¨Ä.
'§ÀÏí¸¡ø §ÀÏõ ¯ÕÅ¡¸×õ, «ùÅ¡Ú þøÄ¡¾¢ÕôÀÐõ" ´Õ ¸Å¢¨¾Â¢ý Àñ§À ±É ¿¡ý ¨¸Â¡ñÊÕó§¾ý. ±É§Å ´Õ¸Å¢¨¾ ÀÊôÀÅ÷ "¯½Õõ Ũ¸Â¢ø" «¨Á¸¢ÈÐ.
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[Srimangai]

Geno!
Just now I remembered the discussion we had on kannadasan and the impacts of Andal and other Alwars in his poetry.
¿õÁ¡úšâý Áü¦È¡Õ À¡¼ø - þ¨È¨Âý ¾ý¨Á ÌÈ¢ò¾Ð

¯Ç¦ÉÉ¢ø ¯Çý «ÅÛÕÅõ þù×ÕŸû
¯ÇÉĦÄÉ¢ø «ÅÛÕÅõ þù×Õ׸û
¯Ç¦ÉÉ þĦÉÉ þ¨Å̽Ө¼Á¢ø
¯Çý þÕ¾¸¨Á¦Â¡Î ´Æ¢Å¢Äý ÀÃó§¾

þ¨ÈÅý 'þÕ츢ȡý" ±ýÈ¡ø 'þÕ츢ȡý" . "þø¨Ä' ±ýÈ¡ø "þø¨Ä"- ¬Â¢ý «ÅÉÐ ¯ÕÅí¸§Ç þù×Õ׸ǡõ ¯Ä¸õ. þÕôÀÐõ, þøÄ¡¾¢ÕôÀÐõ¬«¸¢Â þÕ̽í¸Ùõ ¦¸¡ñÊÕôÀÐ «ÅÉР̽í¸Ç¡õ ±ýÈ ¦À¡ÕûÀ¼ «¨Áó¾ À¡¼ø þÐ.

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[Roshan]

Sudhakar,

Thank you so much for that wonderful explanation on aazvaar paadal. Á¢¸ «Õ¨ÁÂ¡É Å¢Çì¸õ. I relished reading it. Thanks once again

"§ÀÏí¸¡ø §ÀÏõ ¯ÕÅ¡Ìõ «øÄÛÁ¡ö" ±ýÈ Åâ¨Â ¸Å¢¨¾Â¢ý ÀñÀ¡¸ ´ôÀ¢ðÊÕôÀÐ Á¢¸ «Õ¨Á! ¬É¡ø «¾¢ø ¬îº÷Âô ÀΞüÌ ´ýÚÁ¢ø¨Ä. ´ôÀ£Î, ÀÊÁõ , ÌȢ£Πþ¨Å ±øÄ¡õ ¯¹¸ÙìÌ ¨¸Åó¾ ¸¨Ä ±ýÀÐ ¿¡í¸û ²ü¸É§Å «È¢ó¾Ð¾¡§É

ƒ£§É¡, ;¡¸÷ ÁüÚõ ¾¢Õò¾ì¸ý §À¡ýÈÅ÷¸û ¾Õõ Å¢Çì¸í¸Ù측¸§Å, þÉ¢§Áø ¸Å¢¨¾¸Ç¢ý «÷ò¾õ Òâó¾¡Öõ - ¦À¡ö¡¸ 'ÒâÂÅ¢ø¨Ä' ±ýÚ ¦º¡øÄÄ¡õ ±ýÚ ¿¢¨É츢§Èý ƒ£§É¡ þá. Óոɢɢ ¸Å¢¨¾¨Â þíÌ À¢ÃÍâò¾ ¿¡Ç¢ø þÕóÐ , þó¾ ´Õ Å¡ÃòÐìÌû ÀÄ «Ã¢Â Å¢¼Âí¸¨Ç ¸üÚ즸¡ûÇ ÓÊó¾Ð ±ÉìÌ. «¾ü¸¡¸ ±ÉÐ ¿ýÈ¢¸û

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