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23rd April 2005, 09:25 PM
#61
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viggop: Some additions to your list:
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Kambar ( kamba raamaayaNam has been set to music by some musicians. One of my Tamil professors used to sing kambaraamaayaNam verses in the class room. He also sang silappadhikaaram verses.)
Ilango adigaL (silappadhikaaram)
" I think there is a world market for may be five computers". IBM Chairman Thomas Watson in 1943.
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23rd April 2005 09:25 PM
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24th April 2005, 05:50 PM
#62
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Dear Rajraj
Thanks a lot.TN.Seshagopalan and OS Arun too have rendered songs from Kamba Ramayanam
Bombay Jayashree was involved with a project to make a dance drama on Silapadhikaram along with Ms.Kanimozhi(daughter of DMK chief Karunanithi)
MS made the silapadhikaram song "vadavayirai mathaki" famous by singing it in UN General assembly.
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25th April 2005, 11:20 PM
#63
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Tholkappiam on vannams....
'Varna' is another sanscritisation of the Tamil word 'vaNNam'. Tholkappiar (5th century BC) mentions the vaNNams in Tamil isai. Altogether there are 20 kinds of vaNNams (varna)..
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25th April 2005, 11:27 PM
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Idiappam,
A letter is missing in some of the words: idai ezhudhu is shown as dai ezhuthu!
" I think there is a world market for may be five computers". IBM Chairman Thomas Watson in 1943.
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25th April 2005, 11:44 PM
#65
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Idiappam,
//'Varna' is another sanscritisation of the Tamil word 'vaNNam'. //
Vanhnham = Azhahu (Beauty), Chezhumai (Richness)
"Kaal Vanhnham angu kandaen... Kai vanhnham ingu kandaen.."
-- Kamba-Ramayanam
VANHNHAM does not mean.... VARNAM .... another word meaning COLOUR ...
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26th April 2005, 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by
rajraj
Idiappam,
A letter is missing in some of the words: idai ezhudhu is shown as dai ezhuthu!
Thank you raj, That must be a font version error. Corrected that.
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26th April 2005, 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by
Sudhaama
Idiappam,
//'Varna' is another sanscritisation of the Tamil word 'vaNNam'. //
Vanhnham = Azhahu (Beauty), Chezhumai (Richness)
"Kaal Vanhnham angu kandaen... Kai vanhnham ingu kandaen.."
-- Kamba-Ramayanam
VANHNHAM does not mean.... VARNAM .... another word meaning COLOUR ...
Well 'vaNNam' or 'VARNA', if we restrict ourselves to their use in music everything will fall in place! In Tamil Isai 'vaNNam' means:
1. A melody or a music mode
2. Harmony
3. Rythmic cycle (santha vaNNam)
4. Variation of metre
5. A melodious tune with quick succession of short syllable (as in vaNNa kuzhimbu)
6. etc etc etc
Also meaning in other context:
1. Beauty
2. happiness
3. co-efficient (mathematics)
4. way or manner - as in 'avvaNNam' - In like manner; 'evvaNNam' - in any manner.
5. etc etc etc
---- from my dictionary
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26th April 2005, 02:07 AM
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Excellent work Idiappam avarkaLE!
I found a thamizh akaraathi link which gives the various contextual meanings for "vaNNam":
http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/rom...able=tamil-lex
Sudhaama,
"sEl" enkiRa sol eppadi miinukkum, (peNkaL) kaNNukkum - kuRippup peyarAka varukiRathO - athu pOla thamizhil pala soRkaL - pala poruL kuRiththu niRpathu neengaL aRiyAthathA?
inthath thiri thuvakkiyamaikku nanRikaL!
M.K. Narayanan, Sivasankara Menon, A.K.Antony, Satish Nambiar, Vijay Nambiar, Nirupama Menon Rao....
இந்திய தேசியம், இந்திய நீதி, இந்திய தருமம்:
இலட்சம் தமிழன் செத்தாலும் பரவாயில்லை. ஒரே ஒரு <டிங்க்> மனசும் கூடப் புண்பட்டுவிடக்கூடாது!
டகால்ட்டி திராவிடன் கருணாநிதியின் கையால் சாவதைக் காட்டிலும் ஒரிஜினல் <டிங்> ஜெ.வின் கையால் அழிவது மேல்!
"The Recrudescence of Thamizh ethnicism is deadlier than Ebola Virus - declares Dr. Varna Ratna, announcing the path-breaking discovery.."
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26th April 2005, 03:25 AM
#69
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"geno"
// Sudhaama .... "sEl" enkiRa sol eppadi miinukkum, (peNkaL) kaNNukkum - kuRippup peyarAka varukiRathO - athu pOla thamizhil pala soRkaL - pala poruL kuRiththu niRpathu neengaL aRiyAthathA? ://
Idhan Vidaiyai .. ilakkiya-Maedaiyil inrhu alhikkiraen Angu kaanhga.
// inthath thiri thuvakkiyamaikku nanRikaL//
Karumbu thinna yenakku-k- Kooli vaendumaa?... Nanrhi... kalh.. kalh.. kalh.!!!
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26th April 2005, 11:04 AM
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Idiappam
Excellent posting on varnams from Tholkapiyam.
Please continue your work.
We can all enjoy the greatness of thamizh isai standing on your hard-working shoulders
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