View Poll Results: On What Grounds.. You "LIKE" Thamizh-Isai ?

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  • My MOTHER-TONGUE irrespective of Musical value

    4 14.29%
  • Thamizh SWEET LANGUAGE + Sweet-music

    16 57.14%
  • Known Language + Sweet-Music

    5 17.86%
  • NOT INTERESTED.. NO Equally GOOD Sahithyas like Telugu & Kannada

    3 10.71%
  • NOT INTERESTED.. Some Other Reason

    0 0%
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Thread: Great THAMIZH - ISAI !

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    Senior Member Veteran Hubber rajraj's Avatar
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    viggop: Some additions to your list:

    ANNaamalai reddiyaar
    DaNdapaNi desikar
    Kambar ( kamba raamaayaNam has been set to music by some musicians. One of my Tamil professors used to sing kambaraamaayaNam verses in the class room. He also sang silappadhikaaram verses.)
    Ilango adigaL (silappadhikaaram)
    " I think there is a world market for may be five computers". IBM Chairman Thomas Watson in 1943.

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    Dear Rajraj
    Thanks a lot.TN.Seshagopalan and OS Arun too have rendered songs from Kamba Ramayanam
    Bombay Jayashree was involved with a project to make a dance drama on Silapadhikaram along with Ms.Kanimozhi(daughter of DMK chief Karunanithi)
    MS made the silapadhikaram song "vadavayirai mathaki" famous by singing it in UN General assembly.

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    Tholkappiam on vannams....

    'Varna' is another sanscritisation of the Tamil word 'vaNNam'. Tholkappiar (5th century BC) mentions the vaNNams in Tamil isai. Altogether there are 20 kinds of vaNNams (varna)..

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    Idiappam,
    A letter is missing in some of the words: idai ezhudhu is shown as dai ezhuthu!
    " I think there is a world market for may be five computers". IBM Chairman Thomas Watson in 1943.

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    Idiappam,

    //'Varna' is another sanscritisation of the Tamil word 'vaNNam'. //

    Vanhnham = Azhahu (Beauty), Chezhumai (Richness)

    "Kaal Vanhnham angu kandaen... Kai vanhnham ingu kandaen.."

    -- Kamba-Ramayanam

    VANHNHAM does not mean.... VARNAM .... another word meaning COLOUR ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rajraj
    Idiappam,
    A letter is missing in some of the words: idai ezhudhu is shown as dai ezhuthu!
    Thank you raj, That must be a font version error. Corrected that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sudhaama
    Idiappam,
    //'Varna' is another sanscritisation of the Tamil word 'vaNNam'. //

    Vanhnham = Azhahu (Beauty), Chezhumai (Richness)
    "Kaal Vanhnham angu kandaen... Kai vanhnham ingu kandaen.."
    -- Kamba-Ramayanam

    VANHNHAM does not mean.... VARNAM .... another word meaning COLOUR ...
    Well 'vaNNam' or 'VARNA', if we restrict ourselves to their use in music everything will fall in place! In Tamil Isai 'vaNNam' means:

    1. A melody or a music mode
    2. Harmony
    3. Rythmic cycle (santha vaNNam)
    4. Variation of metre
    5. A melodious tune with quick succession of short syllable (as in vaNNa kuzhimbu)
    6. etc etc etc

    Also meaning in other context:
    1. Beauty
    2. happiness
    3. co-efficient (mathematics)
    4. way or manner - as in 'avvaNNam' - In like manner; 'evvaNNam' - in any manner.
    5. etc etc etc

    ---- from my dictionary

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    Excellent work Idiappam avarkaLE!

    I found a thamizh akaraathi link which gives the various contextual meanings for "vaNNam":

    http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/rom...able=tamil-lex

    Sudhaama,

    "sEl" enkiRa sol eppadi miinukkum, (peNkaL) kaNNukkum - kuRippup peyarAka varukiRathO - athu pOla thamizhil pala soRkaL - pala poruL kuRiththu niRpathu neengaL aRiyAthathA?

    inthath thiri thuvakkiyamaikku nanRikaL!
    M.K. Narayanan, Sivasankara Menon, A.K.Antony, Satish Nambiar, Vijay Nambiar, Nirupama Menon Rao....

    இந்திய தேசியம், இந்திய நீதி, இந்திய தருமம்:
    இலட்சம் தமிழன் செத்தாலும் பரவாயில்லை. ஒரே ஒரு <டிங்க்> மனசும் கூடப் புண்பட்டுவிடக்கூடாது!

    டகால்ட்டி திராவிடன் கருணாநிதியின் கையால் சாவதைக் காட்டிலும் ஒரிஜினல் <டிங்> ஜெ.வின் கையால் அழிவது மேல்!

    "The Recrudescence of Thamizh ethnicism is deadlier than Ebola Virus - declares Dr. Varna Ratna, announcing the path-breaking discovery.."

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    "geno"

    // Sudhaama .... "sEl" enkiRa sol eppadi miinukkum, (peNkaL) kaNNukkum - kuRippup peyarAka varukiRathO - athu pOla thamizhil pala soRkaL - pala poruL kuRiththu niRpathu neengaL aRiyAthathA? ://

    Idhan Vidaiyai .. ilakkiya-Maedaiyil inrhu alhikkiraen Angu kaanhga.

    // inthath thiri thuvakkiyamaikku nanRikaL//

    Karumbu thinna yenakku-k- Kooli vaendumaa?... Nanrhi... kalh.. kalh.. kalh.!!!

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    Idiappam
    Excellent posting on varnams from Tholkapiyam.
    Please continue your work.
    We can all enjoy the greatness of thamizh isai standing on your hard-working shoulders

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