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    Ramki (@ 68.6*) on: Fri Nov 19 19:50:09 EST 2004




    I’m starting this thread with ‘kaathirundhen kaNavaa’ a sweet solo by Sjanaki from 'Dharmapathini'.
    http://tfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://tfmpage.com/songs/kaath.rm

    The song should be for jeevitha (can someone confirm this). Lyrics has lot of VM’s touch but not sure if he is the lyricist. Music is by IR.
    This is what Mrs charumathi has to say about this song
    kaathirundhen kaNavaa paadal muzhudhum sriranjani raagathin adipadaiyaaga
    amaindhuLLadhu.
    panjama varjamaana ('pa' vilakkapatta swaram) sriranjani raagam, 22 vadhu meLamaana karaharapriyaavin janyam enbadhu kuripadavendiyadhu.
    ThaaLathai eduthukondaal-aadhi thaaLathil amaindha ippaadal, pallavi 1/2 idamaaga amainthuLLathu. BGM in munpaguthi 1/2 idamaagavum, pin paguthi samamaagavum amainthuLLathu ingu kuRipida vEndiyathu. BGM il sirapaaga vaathiyangaLai kaiyaaNduLathum, inimaiyaana sri ranjaniyil swara kOrvaikaLai amaithuLLathum, iLaiyaraajavin isaiyamaipin sirapamsamaagum.
    paadalin idaiyil varum isaiyum paadal varigaLum, adhai miga inimaiyaaga
    paadiyuLLa janakiyin kuralum, indha paatukku innum sirappu serkindrana.







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    Bala (@ 68.3*) on: Fri Nov 19 21:44:13 EST 2004




    Ramki

    The songs sounds a lot like 'Pagalile oru nilavinai kanden' by SJ. Is that also Sriranjini raagam?

    Eagerly waiting for the translations...

    Bala





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    RR (@ 218.*) on: Sat Nov 20 04:57:04 EST 2004




    A rough translation is:

    This song is set fully based on sriranjani raagam. Sriranjani is a 'panjama varja' (i.e. no 'Pa') raagam. It can be
    noted that it's a janyam of the 22nd melakarta Karaharapriya. As for thaalam, it's set in Adi thaalam.
    In the BGM, interestingly the first part is set in '1/2 idam' but the later part is in 'samam'. Excellent arrangement of instruments in the BGM and the sweet sriranjani swara 'kOrvai'-s reflect Ilayaraja's special touch.
    The song interludes, lyrics and the rendition in janaki's mellifluous voice beautify this song further.





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    Bala (@ 68.3*) on: Sat Nov 20 08:35:44 EST 2004




    Thanks RR and Ramki and thanks for the translation. Able to appreciate the song better now.. Can an expert list other songs in Sriranjini (by IR and others) and comment how they are different?

    Topics like this make me feel great about being a DF-er....

    Bala





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    Ramki (@ 68.6*) on: Sat Nov 20 09:11:12 EST 2004




    Bala this is what i found:

    sriranjani:
    Nadhamenum Kovilile... (Manmatha leelai)
    nadham ezhuthathadi (gopura vaasalile)
    velli chathamgaigal - tail piece only
    *pagalilE oru nilavinai (NilavilE oru sangeetham)

    http://www.tfmpage.com/forum/classical.html





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    Ramki (@ 68.6*) on: Sat Nov 20 09:18:15 EST 2004




    This is what Lakshminarayan Srirangam Ramakrishnan writes on sriranjani raagam

    Talking about the panchama varjaya ragam of Karahapriya, that is , Sriranjani, probably Illayaraja was the best music director to use this wonderful raga. His first Sriranjani came as a tail bit in velli chalangaigal (kaadal ovium). It was a very fast bit sang by the chorus 'thannanthanimayil iru vizhi'. Even though 'velli chalangaigal' was tuned in Chandrakounse ragam, I don't know what made him give the tail bit to Sriranjani (a very strange guy, you know!) The second Sriranjani attempt came in naadavinodhangal in salangai oli. Even in this song he tuned the pallavi alone in Sriranjani, with charanam in Hamsaanandi. This is what I dislike in cinema music directors. Why can't they adhere to a single raga? Why do they have to change from pallavi to charanam? Illayaraja was the one who did best justice to carnatic music among modern music directors. But even he fell a prey to such deviations (from purist point of view) like changing the raga for each line in few songs. His best Sriranjani came in 'nadam ezhundadadi' in Gopura vaasalilae. Again, Yesudoss! It was really fantastic. Karthik had given a comic act in that song. Probably that song toppled M.S.V's best Sriranjani 'nadam enum kovililae..' Dit it? I would say yes.

    http://tfmpage.com/ci/ci2.html





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    Ramki (@ 68.6*) on: Sat Nov 20 09:20:04 EST 2004


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    Ramki (@ 68.6*) on: Sat Nov 20 09:37:14 EST 2004




    Other songs in sriranjani(Gathered from different threads)

    1.oru raagam tharaadha veenai - unnai vaazhthi paadugiren
    2.vaa saki vaasaki- arasiyal
    3.theenda theenda malarandhadhenne - ThuLLuvadho iLamai
    4.veNNIlaavin perai maatravaa - Ramana
    5.saami en thaali kodi - shenbagame shenbagame
    6.kannan en naadha oviyam - ivan


    There is even a website for Sriranjani raagam

    http://www.sriranjani.com





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    RR (@ 218.*) on: Sat Nov 20 10:19:16 EST 2004




    Ramki: small correction. 'theenda theenda' is riti gowla. But this raga is close to sriranjani. They share the same notes (for this reason, these two are almost never taken up in the same concert), but riti gowla has a few spl prayogams that easily distinguish it from sriranjani.

    Bharadhwaj did a (rather lowly) sriranjani in 'thinnaathe' (paarthen rasithen).





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    Bala (@ 68.3*) on: Sat Nov 20 10:22:19 EST 2004




    Wow! (Just overwhelmed with the response. Thanks Ramki!!)

    Bala





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