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    RR (@ 202.*) on: Tue Dec 21 09:45:57 EST 2004




    M: MSV kalandhu katti oru 'Mixture Sivaranjani' pottadhaa vachukkalaam





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    Ramki (@ 68.6*) on: Tue Dec 21 18:41:00 EST 2004




    RC you must be correct. As i mentioned in my post i saw this song very long time back





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    dheivathin thereduthu(paattum naane bharathamum naane)




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    Song: deivathin thereduthu
    Film: Paatum bharathamum
    Singer : TMS
    Music : MSV
    Lyrics : Kannadasan

    - Another classic from MSV with a great combination of wonderful lyrics, powerful voice and excellent tune. If TMS impresses you with his gambeera sogam, Kannadasan floors you with the rare usage of uvamais.

    The lyrics will have more meaning if the situation is explained:
    Sivaji and jayalalitha, professional bharathanatyam dancers, fall in love with each other after the tamil film norm fights and tiffs.
    Since Sivajis family will be against this relationship, he will marry JJ against their wishes. But soon he will start suspecting her which will lead to their seperation. By the time he realises his mistake, she will fly out of the country with his child in her womb.

    Todays pick comes at this situation. Kannadasan aptly starts(after the thogaiyar 'karapanaikku')

    deivathin thereduthu deviyai thedu
    devikku thoodhu sella thendrale odu

    aavikuL aavi aanandha aedu
    avaL illaiyendraal naan verum koodu
    paavaikku pottuvaithen naan oru koadu
    paadi parandhadhamma iLankuyil pedu

    -just by reading the 4 lines we can learn the crux of the story.

    The following 4 lines are the highlight of the whole song. sivaji, who will be shown as a young man at the start of the song, will slowly transform into an oldperson through the duration of the song.
    Kannadasan beautifully captures the change in seasons in these 4 lines

    neer vatri ponadhendru ninaivinil vedippu(kodai)
    nenjathil thondrudhammaa vasanthathin thudippu(vasantham)
    maamazhai megam indru kaNgaLil iruppu(kaarkaalam)
    maargazhi paniyandro avaLadhu sirippu(panikaalam)


    Then the last 2 lines of the third charanam describes that our hero is old now
    (narai vizhundhaalum nenjil thirai vizhavillai)

    'paatum bharathamum' had sivaji in dual role(Father and son)JJ and sripriya were the respective jodis. The film had 4 great songs by MSV

    Sivagaami aadavandhaal natarajan enna seivaan
    maandhorana veedhiyil meLangaL
    mazhaikaalam varugindradhu(MSV,VJ) and
    deivathin thereduthu

    There is also another song for the 'son' sivaji(sivaji with horrible make up and ultra overacting). I think it was by SPB.

    This is what Mrs Charumathi has to say about this song
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    'karpanaiku mEni thanthu' is based on 'chakravaagam'. This raaga is
    16 'mELa' and it has
    the following aaro, avaro and 'swarasthana':
    Aro: Sa Ri1 Ga2 Ma1 Pa Da2 Ni1 Sa
    Avo: Sa Ni1 Da2 Pa Ma1 Ga2 Ri1 Sa
    You can also say that this song is based on 'ahir bhairavi' in
    hindustani raaga.

    The song is set to Adi thaLa and it has a unusual format for a film
    song. Normally,
    first two lines of 'pallavi' repeats throughout a song; however
    3rd and 4th line of pallavi repeats in this song. ie 'deivathin thEr
    eduthu dEviyai thEdu'
    and 'dEvikku thoothu sella thendralE Odu' repeats, but the first two
    lines never repeat.

    'Jadhi' appears in the end of song and reminds of 'Siva's uruthira
    thaaNdavam' which is also
    uncommon in a film song.

    The music director brought a sad feeling through the song and I'm not
    sure about the situation
    in the movie; especially the lines 'narai vizhunthaalum nenjil thirai
    vizha villai' reminds me
    the sad feeling. It's very rare that 'narai' appears in a film song.

    The lyrics has lots of 'Old Tamil' words which is not easy to
    understand the underlying
    meaning.

    MD used "Senai' instrument which also adds the sad feeling to the song.

    Musically this song is similar to 'uLLathil nalla uLLam' from 'karNan'.








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    RR (@ 218.*) on: Wed Dec 22 04:40:05 EST 2004




    Ramki: I always confuse this song with 'sandhega kodu' (also in chakravagam). Which movie is that from?

    Is the SPB song 'I will sing for you' ?





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    raja m (@ 24.4*) on: Wed Dec 22 09:21:41 EST 2004




    RR : the song is my song is for you - SBP goes pretty wild in the song, especially guess who - sounds like gas who..

    I will sing for you - I think is from Manidharil maanikkam.





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    T (@ 12.3*) on: Wed Dec 22 09:56:48 EST 2004




    RR, sandhega kodu is from Sorgam Naragam...
    Sivaji, jj & sripriya?? which year did this movie come out?? I guess it should be during thoppai sivaji period





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    RR (@ 202.*) on: Wed Dec 22 10:56:01 EST 2004




    raja m: I think you are rite. I like spb in that song

    T: thanks, how could i forget, I've seen that movie.





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    RC (@ 204.*) on: Wed Dec 22 11:30:50 EST 2004




    Ramki: check your pm





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    Ramki (@ 68.6*) on: Wed Dec 22 17:48:28 EST 2004




    raja m nice to see your post after a long time.

    'i will sing for you i will dance for you' - isnt that by TMS/LRE

    T i think PB was the first movie with sivaji-sripriya combo. According to Tamilcinema this film was released in 1975

    RC replied





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    RR (@ 192.*) on: Thu Dec 23 03:19:00 EST 2004




    Paattu bharathamum is a pretty good semi classical album by MSV. Though one could argue TMS was past his prime then, the melodies are still captivating. Apart from 'deivathin thereduthu',
    1. sivagami aadavanthaal - I remember this is a pOtti dance between Sivaji & JJ. They both have to draw a picture (i forgot what) on the floor with their feet while dancing (this idea was copied in 'Kaadhalan'). They start off fine, but ultimately JJ misses a key point in the picture and sivaji wins (hero had to..what!). When TMS sings 'mayakkaamaa.. kalakkamaa.. kanakkile kuzhappamaa', you can easily picturise sivaji's victorious looks and JJ in disbelief.
    This song is a ragamalika. Starts with Amirthavarshini (how majestic the pallavi!), kanada,charukesi and rounds off with Madhyamavadhi(?).
    2. maanthorana veedhiyil - light song. I think based on sindhu bairavi.
    3. mazhaikkaalam varugindradhu - Very good one from VJ. Sounds hindustani-ish. Is the MSV part from classical literature?

    If you are a MSV, it's worth many listens.

    http://www.musicindiaonline.com/l/26/s/movie_name.5074/music_director.762/





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